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Jul 12, 2016 5:34 AM
#301
Erebus25 said: NotAPeanut said: Erebus25 said: Ketuekigami said: Erebus25 said: MightyM16 said: Erebus25 said: what's with that retarded score, 8.55, and episode was utter garbage, not sure what I liked less, how they turned it into a shounen crap with Despairs fighting Hopes or the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing and this is coming from someone who likes the series and bothered to buy the games Not sure what you meant by " the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing" The FF wasn't taken down, the traitor just used the secret meeting they were having to trap the leaders they could've been killed the same way if not for the plot convenience Did you miss the entire point of the games? You know.... how the mastermind could have killed them all at any time in DR1, but didn't because they had valid reasons. If at this point you don't know what Monokuma wants then you arent even paying attention dude... Saying that its "plot convenience" that FF weren't all killed right there is a ridiculous statement if you know anything about the DR franchise. And also, not sure what you expected the fights to be like. They introduced a ton of shounen like characters with shounen like power levels. Thinking that the fights between hope and despair wouldn't be "Anime" fights is pretty strange. it's not a problem of characters, this anime is continuation of the first game, as such I hoped it would explain what happened outside of Hope Peak and instead, as I said, it got turned into cheap shounen action with fights between Hopes and Despairs, basically I didnt expect fights in DR1 he did have valid reason to keep them alive, now, thanks to the above mentioned, he doesnt Monokuma does have a valid reason. It's the same reason as always, really. The Future Foundation is the last bit of hope in the world, and Monokuma wants them all to suffer in the ultimate despair before they die. It's what he always wants and now that Naegi, the Ultimate Hope is there as well, he wants to settle things with him once and for all. saying that when it has turned into an armed combat... and it really has no impact the way it did in the first game lol What did you expect to happen in a world after WWW3? We were already told humanity is in deep shit. Global war and daily killing hapening. Remnant of despair were Junkos henchman. It was clear glass clear what happened outside. We got all the information/photos and so on. Junko`s goal is to push humanity in the abyss. To let humankind suffer in despair. The first game has the biggest impact on the plot because Junko dies and? Dunno what your point is what we see now is the final chapter of the story. The last fight between everything that is left of our villains vs the future foundation. The organisation that keeps the world somewhat solid/stable after everything. So idk what you expect to happen in a fucked up world full of terrorism, war and fights in a post apocalyptic world. |
Jul 12, 2016 5:36 AM
#302
Tusilos said: coolyoyo33 said: Tusilos said: I didn't expect that girl to die so soon. Though it was easy to predict she would at some point. Oh fuck the hype. Anyway, Monokuma says that it will be the conclusion of his and Makoto's story but comes back in V3? Plz don't kill off Kirigiri. V3 is an alternate setting, an alternate school, a different cast. I believe a whole different world from the hope's peak universe or based in the decades further future at least so yeah, it is the end of his and MAKOTO'S story. I think rhey said something among the lines of "it won't follow Hope's Peak Academy story arc" so I doubt it will be completely disconnected from it. Well it seemingly has more connection to another episode from what I can discern from the trailer not the main storyline, though it does follow the same concept of ultimates trapped in a school for special high school kids, It will probably have little to do with the original storyline. |
Jul 12, 2016 5:38 AM
#303
AssassinWolfXE said: Wait............Is that Kuzuryu and Pekoyama form the second game?????? So that means that it will have spoilers from second series (Haven't watched it yet). And this is a TV series now..............Huh. It has been a day of revelations. danieltortoisee said: So, the blood's not red anymore? That's strange, as that seemed to be as much an icon of Danganronpa as Monokuma is. Since when was blood red in Danganronpa????? It has always been pink. Man.... you just spoil yourself with the biggest plot twist for the second game... I feel pitty on you if you decided to play it since the shock value will be gone |
Jul 12, 2016 6:16 AM
#304
MonoReaper said: Erebus25 said: NotAPeanut said: Erebus25 said: Ketuekigami said: Erebus25 said: MightyM16 said: Erebus25 said: what's with that retarded score, 8.55, and episode was utter garbage, not sure what I liked less, how they turned it into a shounen crap with Despairs fighting Hopes or the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing and this is coming from someone who likes the series and bothered to buy the games Not sure what you meant by " the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing" The FF wasn't taken down, the traitor just used the secret meeting they were having to trap the leaders they could've been killed the same way if not for the plot convenience Did you miss the entire point of the games? You know.... how the mastermind could have killed them all at any time in DR1, but didn't because they had valid reasons. If at this point you don't know what Monokuma wants then you arent even paying attention dude... Saying that its "plot convenience" that FF weren't all killed right there is a ridiculous statement if you know anything about the DR franchise. And also, not sure what you expected the fights to be like. They introduced a ton of shounen like characters with shounen like power levels. Thinking that the fights between hope and despair wouldn't be "Anime" fights is pretty strange. it's not a problem of characters, this anime is continuation of the first game, as such I hoped it would explain what happened outside of Hope Peak and instead, as I said, it got turned into cheap shounen action with fights between Hopes and Despairs, basically I didnt expect fights in DR1 he did have valid reason to keep them alive, now, thanks to the above mentioned, he doesnt Monokuma does have a valid reason. It's the same reason as always, really. The Future Foundation is the last bit of hope in the world, and Monokuma wants them all to suffer in the ultimate despair before they die. It's what he always wants and now that Naegi, the Ultimate Hope is there as well, he wants to settle things with him once and for all. saying that when it has turned into an armed combat... and it really has no impact the way it did in the first game lol What did you expect to happen in a world after WWW3? We were already told humanity is in deep shit. Global war and daily killing hapening. Remnant of despair were Junkos henchman. It was clear glass clear what happened outside. We got all the information/photos and so on. Junko`s goal is to push humanity in the abyss. To let humankind suffer in despair. The first game has the biggest impact on the plot because Junko dies and? Dunno what your point is what we see now is the final chapter of the story. The last fight between everything that is left of our villains vs the future foundation. The organisation that keeps the world somewhat solid/stable after everything. So idk what you expect to happen in a fucked up world full of terrorism, war and fights in a post apocalyptic world. what I expected wasnt fighting between high schoolers, I expected a development of the story, building of the world (setting), not getting a 5 minute intro into the situation and repeat of the first game, which this time isnt interesting because the atmosphere is entirely different |
Jul 12, 2016 6:21 AM
#305
So the Future Foundation decides to round up all the leaders onto an island fully aware that one of them could be a traitor working with the Despairs, AND THEN has them all meet in the same room when there were so many other ways to discuss Naegi's fate. One of the members even mentions how if the Despairs found them this place would be easy pickings, but I guess survivors of the most "tragic, horrific event" in human history just don't know what is best for their survival. I mean, they bring Naegi and co. into the fray when they believe him to be a traitor (which puts Aoi and the others as suspicious), which could have easily led the remnants of Despair to their location. So now the remnants of Despair will play yet another killing game even though they have all the main members of the Future Foundation in the palm of their hands (except Byakuya(?)). Seriously, just kill them and win. Keep your enemy alive long enough and they may just come back to haunt you. Oh well. I'll just sit back and enjoy what Danganronpa has to offer, which is a decent murder/mystery game. |
Jul 12, 2016 7:05 AM
#306
i thought that it's kinda cool to have the sick-looking mask girl to take action on capturing mikan. she looks kinda insane in the membrane i hope she's a surviving character :0 and i also like this monaca look-alike girl who doesn't speak but she seems so suspicious since she so calm towards the situation they're in. and i think there's an explanation on why ryota is late to the conference probably he's planning something or even the mastermind behind all of this, well i'm not sure actually. |
Jul 12, 2016 7:09 AM
#307
NotAPeanut said: Not a bad start to the end of the Hope's Peak storyline. My only real problem with it so far was that it wasn't entirely clear how long it's been since the second game and what exactly happened between DR2 and this. I have to admit, seeing red blood instead of pink actually kinda took me by surprised. I'm gonna have to get used to that. I am liking Monokuma's new voice actress way more than when I first heard her, so that's pretty good. Tomorrow we're heading into the Despair Chapter. I already know that seeing the DR2 characters going through that hell is going to be painful for me. This takes place a bit after Naegi and co. return back to the future foundation, they then suspect him of treason and thus this happens. |
Jul 12, 2016 7:17 AM
#308
be the ultimate swordsman. get shut down and repelled by the student council prez there's no justice |
Jul 12, 2016 7:22 AM
#309
It's good to see the actor who played Yu Narukami in Persona 4, finally get to play another role. |
Jul 12, 2016 7:23 AM
#310
coolyoyo33 said: NotAPeanut said: Not a bad start to the end of the Hope's Peak storyline. My only real problem with it so far was that it wasn't entirely clear how long it's been since the second game and what exactly happened between DR2 and this. I have to admit, seeing red blood instead of pink actually kinda took me by surprised. I'm gonna have to get used to that. I am liking Monokuma's new voice actress way more than when I first heard her, so that's pretty good. Tomorrow we're heading into the Despair Chapter. I already know that seeing the DR2 characters going through that hell is going to be painful for me. This takes place a bit after Naegi and co. return back to the future foundation, they then suspect him of treason and thus this happens. Oh, I see. I was a little confused because Naegi and the others seem to have grown quite a bit since the end of DR2. |
Jul 12, 2016 7:32 AM
#311
Mikan I missed you. but... the best part was hearing Rie Kugimiya's voice after so long!!!!! I was replaying that part over and over just to savor that tsundere voice. |
Jul 12, 2016 7:44 AM
#312
Erebus25 said: MonoReaper said: Erebus25 said: NotAPeanut said: Erebus25 said: Ketuekigami said: Erebus25 said: MightyM16 said: Erebus25 said: what's with that retarded score, 8.55, and episode was utter garbage, not sure what I liked less, how they turned it into a shounen crap with Despairs fighting Hopes or the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing and this is coming from someone who likes the series and bothered to buy the games Not sure what you meant by " the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing" The FF wasn't taken down, the traitor just used the secret meeting they were having to trap the leaders they could've been killed the same way if not for the plot convenience Did you miss the entire point of the games? You know.... how the mastermind could have killed them all at any time in DR1, but didn't because they had valid reasons. If at this point you don't know what Monokuma wants then you arent even paying attention dude... Saying that its "plot convenience" that FF weren't all killed right there is a ridiculous statement if you know anything about the DR franchise. And also, not sure what you expected the fights to be like. They introduced a ton of shounen like characters with shounen like power levels. Thinking that the fights between hope and despair wouldn't be "Anime" fights is pretty strange. it's not a problem of characters, this anime is continuation of the first game, as such I hoped it would explain what happened outside of Hope Peak and instead, as I said, it got turned into cheap shounen action with fights between Hopes and Despairs, basically I didnt expect fights in DR1 he did have valid reason to keep them alive, now, thanks to the above mentioned, he doesnt Monokuma does have a valid reason. It's the same reason as always, really. The Future Foundation is the last bit of hope in the world, and Monokuma wants them all to suffer in the ultimate despair before they die. It's what he always wants and now that Naegi, the Ultimate Hope is there as well, he wants to settle things with him once and for all. saying that when it has turned into an armed combat... and it really has no impact the way it did in the first game lol What did you expect to happen in a world after WWW3? We were already told humanity is in deep shit. Global war and daily killing hapening. Remnant of despair were Junkos henchman. It was clear glass clear what happened outside. We got all the information/photos and so on. Junko`s goal is to push humanity in the abyss. To let humankind suffer in despair. The first game has the biggest impact on the plot because Junko dies and? Dunno what your point is what we see now is the final chapter of the story. The last fight between everything that is left of our villains vs the future foundation. The organisation that keeps the world somewhat solid/stable after everything. So idk what you expect to happen in a fucked up world full of terrorism, war and fights in a post apocalyptic world. what I expected wasnt fighting between high schoolers, I expected a development of the story, building of the world (setting), not getting a 5 minute intro into the situation and repeat of the first game, which this time isnt interesting because the atmosphere is entirely different High schoolers? Their age is around 20 and higher at this point of time. Nagei at this point of the Anime should be 21. World building? We had 4 games for world building. We saw the outside world overrun by monokuma robotos killing everyone for example: https://youtu.be/9cD63IqzGF4?t=668 We also saw them fighting the Monokuma robots: https://youtu.be/2Si2rR3P9eE?t=20 We know who did it. We know exactly what happened outside for sure WWW3. We will now see how Junko started everything in SideDespair and we will see how the story will end for our main cast in SideFuture. I really dont know what you expected after everything we know. From the Anime only point of view sure you dont know anything. But for long time fans we pretty much got what we wanted so far. And yes a new trial killing game would be boring. But this time it is a survival game. No trials. No graduation. No execution from Monokuma. This time it`s a Battle Royal. Best example would be Mafia/WW game. |
MonoReaperJul 12, 2016 7:48 AM
Jul 12, 2016 7:46 AM
#313
http://myanimelist.net/character/140043/Daisaku_Bandai this is the most suspicious shit of all of them comeon |
Jul 12, 2016 7:48 AM
#314
Erebus25 said: "repeat of the first game" yeah it is, but its Danganronpa anyway, the story/plot never unfold in only episode 1. And as the building of the world, I can understand what are you talking but, Danganronpa's setting is ALWAYS when the world is in chaos but never directly told story about the chaos itself, (except Ultra Despair Girls). DR1, DR2, and even this DR3. DR mainly about killing game, with plot/situation of the world unfolds later on. Thats DR for you, like it or not.what I expected wasnt fighting between high schoolers, I expected a development of the story, building of the world (setting), not getting a 5 minute intro into the situation and repeat of the first game, which this time isnt interesting because the atmosphere is entirely different This is just my feeling, are you not playing/watch walkthrough/see synopsis/ whatever DR2? Some details about world situation is explained there, so no need to repeat that in this DR3. |
Jul 12, 2016 8:32 AM
#315
Phew, just finished the prequel in time. Great first episode! I absolutely loved the OP, especially the ED. I think I have to get used to Monokuma's new voice, but it was pretty decent. That ending, though.... RIP Yukizome.... Seems like the blood is not pink anymore. So let the killing game begin once again. I had the goosebumps. |
Jul 12, 2016 8:41 AM
#316
NotAPeanut said: coolyoyo33 said: NotAPeanut said: Not a bad start to the end of the Hope's Peak storyline. My only real problem with it so far was that it wasn't entirely clear how long it's been since the second game and what exactly happened between DR2 and this. I have to admit, seeing red blood instead of pink actually kinda took me by surprised. I'm gonna have to get used to that. I am liking Monokuma's new voice actress way more than when I first heard her, so that's pretty good. Tomorrow we're heading into the Despair Chapter. I already know that seeing the DR2 characters going through that hell is going to be painful for me. This takes place a bit after Naegi and co. return back to the future foundation, they then suspect him of treason and thus this happens. Oh, I see. I was a little confused because Naegi and the others seem to have grown quite a bit since the end of DR2. Probably because their attire in this is formal suits and not highschool-esque styled wardrobe as they usually wear. Gives them a whole different vibe. |
Jul 12, 2016 8:56 AM
#317
Suprisingly good, is this series is a death flag for Kirigiri? aand that was fast, RIP Yukizome. |
Jul 12, 2016 8:58 AM
#318
amc9988 said: AssassinWolfXE said: Wait............Is that Kuzuryu and Pekoyama form the second game?????? So that means that it will have spoilers from second series (Haven't watched it yet). And this is a TV series now..............Huh. It has been a day of revelations. danieltortoisee said: So, the blood's not red anymore? That's strange, as that seemed to be as much an icon of Danganronpa as Monokuma is. Since when was blood red in Danganronpa????? It has always been pink. Man.... you just spoil yourself with the biggest plot twist for the second game... I feel pitty on you if you decided to play it since the shock value will be gone I have played the second game (and watched the walkthrough, I was too impatient but whatever) and I was referring to Mirai-hen when I said that I haven't watched it yet. Since I expect that most of the people here would,'e played the second game, I'll say this: Pekoyama's execution was amazing. |
Jul 12, 2016 9:03 AM
#319
Couple of things on my mind regarding the first episode so I'll just list them here: 1) Why did they have to change the Voice Actor for Monokuma?! He did a fantastic job in the original! Now it just sounds a bit bland. 2) I hope they give a log-sheet or formal introduction of all the students; kinda hard to remember their names and their titles. 3) Wow, She died quick. I knew that she had triggered a lot of death flags, but.....Wow. That was a new way to kill a person using a chandelier. 4) Where's Togami and Toko? If Hagakure can be there, then they should be in the anime somewhere. Leaving that aside, The First Ep. was fantastic and I'm successfully hyped. |
Jul 12, 2016 9:19 AM
#320
AssassinWolfXE said: Couple of things on my mind regarding the first episode so I'll just list them here: 1) Why did they have to change the Voice Actor for Monokuma?! He did a fantastic job in the original! Now it just sounds a bit bland. 2) I hope they give a log-sheet or formal introduction of all the students; kinda hard to remember their names and their titles. 3) Wow, She died quick. I knew that she had triggered a lot of death flags, but.....Wow. That was a new way to kill a person using a chandelier. 4) Where's Togami and Toko? If Hagakure can be there, then they should be in the anime somewhere. Leaving that aside, The First Ep. was fantastic and I'm successfully hyped. The original voice actor Nobuyo Ōyama has dementia so they had no choice in this matter. Togami should be in Towa City with Fukawa and Komaru. |
Jul 12, 2016 9:37 AM
#321
ok so im a bit confused. Monakuma said that they have done they death game two times? When was the second? I've only seen the anime i haven't read any of the manga or played the games.... |
Jul 12, 2016 9:54 AM
#322
Maaan that was good! Can we talk about how badass the Remnants of Despair were??? I'm just a little disappointed Byakuya and Toko aren't there, they're much more interesting than Hina and Hiro are. Hopefully they'll show up at the end? Btw, since this is happening after DR2, are Fuyuhiko, Akane, Sonia, Kazuichi and Hajime kept somewhere in a comatose state? I can't wait for Thursday :B |
Jul 12, 2016 10:02 AM
#323
If your watching this and haven't played the second game then you really shouldn't be watching this lol. I'm curious with what happens with Yukizome. Since apparently she was one of the teachers of the DR2 Cast. It could make her be the mastermind or at least on the side of despair. I guess we'll see in the despair arc. |
Jul 12, 2016 10:09 AM
#324
Haruhi-kun said: ok so im a bit confused. Monakuma said that they have done they death game two times? When was the second? I've only seen the anime i haven't read any of the manga or played the games.... There are three Danganronpa games that must be played beforehand to understand the series or in your case "watched" as the first anime was an adaption of the first game Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc to introduce new fans to the series for those that haven't played the game. Two out of the three games focuses on the death games or what they call a Mutual Killing School Life. There's actually the first killing game caused by Junko herself before the mutual killing game of Makoto and the others which the series refer to as "The Tragedy of Hopes Peak" *not to be confused with The Tragedy that happens a year later* Please note that one part of the series is a sequel to the second game and the other is a prequel focusing on the characters from the second game before they became remnants of despair. Both parts will reveal huge spoilers from both games I suggest you stop watching right now and get up to speed on the games before continuing any further as when you do "decide" to play the games the anime will eventually ruin any shock value as part of the twists and turns that is well Danganronpa. |
Jul 12, 2016 10:58 AM
#325
h0ppip said: Maaan that was good! Can we talk about how badass the Remnants of Despair were??? I'm just a little disappointed Byakuya and Toko aren't there, they're much more interesting than Hina and Hiro are. Hopefully they'll show up at the end? Btw, since this is happening after DR2, are Fuyuhiko, Akane, Sonia, Kazuichi and Hajime kept somewhere in a comatose state? I can't wait for Thursday :B Everyone not killed in VR woke up, we see Hajime's back at the end of the game. |
Jul 12, 2016 11:03 AM
#326
G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. |
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Jul 12, 2016 11:08 AM
#327
Vsegda7 said: h0ppip said: Maaan that was good! Can we talk about how badass the Remnants of Despair were??? I'm just a little disappointed Byakuya and Toko aren't there, they're much more interesting than Hina and Hiro are. Hopefully they'll show up at the end? Btw, since this is happening after DR2, are Fuyuhiko, Akane, Sonia, Kazuichi and Hajime kept somewhere in a comatose state? I can't wait for Thursday :B Everyone not killed in VR woke up, we see Hajime's back at the end of the game. Whoa, ok, did not remember that. Thanks! |
Jul 12, 2016 11:08 AM
#328
dragonofmars said: G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. Well guess this prove that you just critise anime for no reason just doing it for the sake of critizing goodness people always find something to critise people works |
Jul 12, 2016 11:11 AM
#329
h0ppip said: Vsegda7 said: h0ppip said: Maaan that was good! Can we talk about how badass the Remnants of Despair were??? I'm just a little disappointed Byakuya and Toko aren't there, they're much more interesting than Hina and Hiro are. Hopefully they'll show up at the end? Btw, since this is happening after DR2, are Fuyuhiko, Akane, Sonia, Kazuichi and Hajime kept somewhere in a comatose state? I can't wait for Thursday :B Everyone not killed in VR woke up, we see Hajime's back at the end of the game. Whoa, ok, did not remember that. Thanks! I think Byakuya and Fukuwa will show up IN Danganronpa 3 Mirai hen there is no way the creator going to sideline them considering this is final of Danganronpa 3 of hope peak saga. Yep Renament of Despair are all In coma except for couple others such as Hajime Hinata,Sonia nevermind and few others. Currently at Mirai Hen timline all of them should be still at Jabberwock Island I guess Future foundation doesn t know they are there |
Jul 12, 2016 11:18 AM
#330
Kirigiri50 said: dragonofmars said: G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. Well guess this prove that you just critise anime for no reason just doing it for the sake of critizing goodness people always find something to critise people works my reason for discussing the quality of the show was because this is a discussion thread about the show i just watched. i don't need anymore reason then that. but i'm beating a dead horse at this point, and i can some of these fans can't handle some one disliking their show, i don't gain anything from hurting peoples feelings so i'll sum up my thoughts here then leave ya'll to enjoy your show. -poorly paced - nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes -poorly written exposition - terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell -no emotional resonance - no idea who i was suppose to empathize for here -choppy animation - i thought my computer was fucking up until i noticed it was just the anime |
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Jul 12, 2016 11:36 AM
#331
dragonofmars said: Kirigiri50 said: dragonofmars said: G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. Well guess this prove that you just critise anime for no reason just doing it for the sake of critizing goodness people always find something to critise people works my reason for discussing the quality of the show was because this is a discussion thread about the show i just watched. i don't need anymore reason then that. but i'm beating a dead horse at this point, and i can some of these fans can't handle some one disliking their show, i don't gain anything from hurting peoples feelings so i'll sum up my thoughts here then leave ya'll to enjoy your show. -poorly paced - nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes -poorly written exposition - terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell -no emotional resonance - no idea who i was suppose to empathize for here -choppy animation - i thought my computer was fucking up until i noticed it was just the anime I understand now that you just commented on what you had just watched, still I just want to make clear that everything that you think is a problem is only a problem from the perspective of someone who doesn't know whats happening (well except for the animation problem)... nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes Because you don't know what happens in the rest of the series, for us that know, everything from start to finish was interesting and exciting. terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell Because you're already supposed to know what happens, the exposition has already happened in the previous parts of the series. no emotional resonance - no idea who I was suppose to empathize for here Because you wasn't, the thing about the first death is that no one that knows what is happening expected her to be the first do die, it was a trolling surprise for everyone. |
HyperLJul 12, 2016 11:42 AM
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Jul 12, 2016 11:53 AM
#332
Erebus25 said: Ketuekigami said: Erebus25 said: MightyM16 said: Erebus25 said: what's with that retarded score, 8.55, and episode was utter garbage, not sure what I liked less, how they turned it into a shounen crap with Despairs fighting Hopes or the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing and this is coming from someone who likes the series and bothered to buy the games Not sure what you meant by " the fact that entire organization was taken down in a few mins, with heavy forshadowing" The FF wasn't taken down, the traitor just used the secret meeting they were having to trap the leaders they could've been killed the same way if not for the plot convenience Did you miss the entire point of the games? You know.... how the mastermind could have killed them all at any time in DR1, but didn't because they had valid reasons. If at this point you don't know what Monokuma wants then you arent even paying attention dude... Saying that its "plot convenience" that FF weren't all killed right there is a ridiculous statement if you know anything about the DR franchise. And also, not sure what you expected the fights to be like. They introduced a ton of shounen like characters with shounen like power levels. Thinking that the fights between hope and despair wouldn't be "Anime" fights is pretty strange. it's not a problem of characters, this anime is continuation of the first game, as such I hoped it would explain what happened outside of Hope Peak and instead, as I said, it got turned into cheap shounen action with fights between Hopes and Despairs, basically I didnt expect fights in DR1 he did have valid reason to keep them alive, now, thanks to the above mentioned, he doesnt "This anime is a continuation of the first game".... Eh...m8, do you even DR2???? NO, This is not a continuation of the first game, this is a direct continuation of the second game Danganronpa 2, and if you don't know about what happens there, of course you woudn't be understanding the Hope vs Despair "shonen" shit that was happening in the beggining...Futhermore, Monokuma always have the same reason for all the games he does, that is, To make everyone DESPAIR, that's it, no other reason, he just wants to bring Despair to people, so he won't kill everyone, he will make them kill each other and make them feel despair that way... |
HyperLJul 12, 2016 11:57 AM
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Jul 12, 2016 11:57 AM
#333
>There are people who started watching this WITHOUT any knowledge of SDR2. lol |
Jul 12, 2016 12:00 PM
#334
IKR, what are they thinking? Does the number 3 in the title means nothing to them? |
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Jul 12, 2016 12:01 PM
#335
to be honest.. I expected it to be so much different... |
Jul 12, 2016 12:49 PM
#336
HyperL said: dragonofmars said: Kirigiri50 said: dragonofmars said: G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. Well guess this prove that you just critise anime for no reason just doing it for the sake of critizing goodness people always find something to critise people works my reason for discussing the quality of the show was because this is a discussion thread about the show i just watched. i don't need anymore reason then that. but i'm beating a dead horse at this point, and i can some of these fans can't handle some one disliking their show, i don't gain anything from hurting peoples feelings so i'll sum up my thoughts here then leave ya'll to enjoy your show. -poorly paced - nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes -poorly written exposition - terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell -no emotional resonance - no idea who i was suppose to empathize for here -choppy animation - i thought my computer was fucking up until i noticed it was just the anime I understand now that you just commented on what you had just watched, still I just want to make clear that everything that you think is a problem is only a problem from the perspective of someone who doesn't know whats happening (well except for the animation problem)... nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes Because you don't know what happens in the rest of the series, for us that know, everything from start to finish was interesting and exciting. terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell Because you're already supposed to know what happens, the exposition has already happened in the previous parts of the series. no emotional resonance - no idea who I was suppose to empathize for here Because you wasn't, the thing about the first death is that no one that knows what is happening expected her to be the first do die, it was a trolling surprise for everyone. Jesus christ people! Enough is enough already, move on from this supposed "discussion" already if you can't accept each other opinion on the show's first episode then just leave it already. Despite what the other person's opinion of the show is if he/she dislikes it then that's their loss they are free to do so just as you are free to like it no point in convincing them otherwise. Neither of you are right or correct on well every point that has been made so far: The only ones I will probably agree with: 1. Despite a terrible way of describing the episode and your thoughts calling it trash, they are correct you can't even say anything bad as part of a review without getting backlash for it. 2. I mean I thought the episode was boring for the first few minutes the mystery that made it Danganronpa is just gone but that's just the first episode so I can't really say anything yet I mean they spent all that time in a room only to be locked in discussing Naegi's treason and accomplished nothing and one of them ends up on the outside by coincidence and it's the butt monkey of the group I mean the only thing that excited me was well the blood and the dead body of the guards and the girl. Will you gang up on too for having such a negative opinion on the episode? 3. There are other ways to express yourself and going into a forum saying your dislike of an episode as your first impression is trash you were basically asking for it despite giving reasons as to why it was so bad is acceptable later on you should of have done so in the first place. It's like going to a crowd of like someone at anime expo saying you hate anime expo's for example. |
Crazy_FantasyJul 12, 2016 12:56 PM
Jul 12, 2016 1:09 PM
#337
Kirigiri50 said: h0ppip said: Vsegda7 said: h0ppip said: Maaan that was good! Can we talk about how badass the Remnants of Despair were??? I'm just a little disappointed Byakuya and Toko aren't there, they're much more interesting than Hina and Hiro are. Hopefully they'll show up at the end? Btw, since this is happening after DR2, are Fuyuhiko, Akane, Sonia, Kazuichi and Hajime kept somewhere in a comatose state? I can't wait for Thursday :B Everyone not killed in VR woke up, we see Hajime's back at the end of the game. Whoa, ok, did not remember that. Thanks! I think Byakuya and Fukuwa will show up IN Danganronpa 3 Mirai hen there is no way the creator going to sideline them considering this is final of Danganronpa 3 of hope peak saga. Yep Renament of Despair are all In coma except for couple others such as Hajime Hinata,Sonia nevermind and few others. Currently at Mirai Hen timline all of them should be still at Jabberwock Island I guess Future foundation doesn t know they are there Yeah I guess you're right, it would be dumb to just leave them out of this. Well we'll just have to see what happens next... |
Jul 12, 2016 1:18 PM
#338
I think that new Monokuma is Nagito Komaeda. Because of his luck he woke up and started the madness plan to save the mankind. |
Jul 12, 2016 1:21 PM
#339
Just to confirm, when Monokuma said the killing game happenned twice, did he mean the one in the first game and the one in the second game or the one in the first game and the tragedy of Hope's Peak? I initially assumed it was the latter and so that would place Mirai-hen BEFORE the second game. That would explain Togami's and Fukawa's absence since they are supposed to be in Towa city (placing this game AFTER Absloute Despair Girls? Since Komaru had to contact Naegi I think) I'm just so confused |
Jul 12, 2016 1:32 PM
#340
Crazy_Fantasy said: HyperL said: dragonofmars said: Kirigiri50 said: dragonofmars said: G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. Well guess this prove that you just critise anime for no reason just doing it for the sake of critizing goodness people always find something to critise people works my reason for discussing the quality of the show was because this is a discussion thread about the show i just watched. i don't need anymore reason then that. but i'm beating a dead horse at this point, and i can some of these fans can't handle some one disliking their show, i don't gain anything from hurting peoples feelings so i'll sum up my thoughts here then leave ya'll to enjoy your show. -poorly paced - nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes -poorly written exposition - terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell -no emotional resonance - no idea who i was suppose to empathize for here -choppy animation - i thought my computer was fucking up until i noticed it was just the anime I understand now that you just commented on what you had just watched, still I just want to make clear that everything that you think is a problem is only a problem from the perspective of someone who doesn't know whats happening (well except for the animation problem)... nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes Because you don't know what happens in the rest of the series, for us that know, everything from start to finish was interesting and exciting. terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell Because you're already supposed to know what happens, the exposition has already happened in the previous parts of the series. no emotional resonance - no idea who I was suppose to empathize for here Because you wasn't, the thing about the first death is that no one that knows what is happening expected her to be the first do die, it was a trolling surprise for everyone. Jesus christ people! Enough is enough already, move on from this supposed "discussion" already if you can't accept each other opinion on the show's first episode then just leave it already. Despite what the other person's opinion of the show is if he/she dislikes it then that's their loss they are free to do so just as you are free to like it no point in convincing them otherwise. Neither of you are right or correct on well every point that has been made so far: The only ones I will probably agree with: 1. Despite a terrible way of describing the episode and your thoughts calling it trash, they are correct you can't even say anything bad as part of a review without getting backlash for it. 2. I mean I thought the episode was boring for the first few minutes the mystery that made it Danganronpa is just gone but that's just the first episode so I can't really say anything yet I mean they spent all that time in a room only to be locked in discussing Naegi's treason and accomplished nothing and one of them ends up on the outside by coincidence and it's the butt monkey of the group I mean the only thing that excited me was well the blood and the dead body of the guards and the girl. Will you gang up on too for having such a negative opinion on the episode? 3. There are other ways to express yourself and going into a forum saying your dislike of an episode as your first impression is trash you were basically asking for it despite giving reasons as to why it was so bad is acceptable later on you should of have done so in the first place. It's like going to a crowd of like someone at anime expo saying you hate anime expo's for example. I wasn't criticizing him m8, I even said that I understand him now, but I also wanted to make sure that he understand us and our reasons for liking what he didn't like, because him not understanding, was the core reason for this whole "discussion" in the first place. Now he is (probably) aware that someone who knows about the series and someone who doesn't, would clearly have different perspectives on this same first episode.... |
HyperLJul 12, 2016 1:36 PM
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Jul 12, 2016 1:38 PM
#341
Crazy_Fantasy said: HyperL said: dragonofmars said: Kirigiri50 said: dragonofmars said: G_Spark233 said: @dragonofmars You're argument is basically 'because I said so' with no actual reasoning. At this point I don't whether you're trolling or not. I hope for you're sake that you are just trolling because this is a little worrying. argument? reasoning? this isn't some court case. i'm not prosecuting the anime studio for plagiarizing. i'm giving my opinion on a show i watched. just as i have on every knew show i've watched. if anyone has an issue with that then that's a personal problem that they have to solve for themselves. @Gilgamesh - not sure where the assumption i haven't played the games came from. Well guess this prove that you just critise anime for no reason just doing it for the sake of critizing goodness people always find something to critise people works my reason for discussing the quality of the show was because this is a discussion thread about the show i just watched. i don't need anymore reason then that. but i'm beating a dead horse at this point, and i can some of these fans can't handle some one disliking their show, i don't gain anything from hurting peoples feelings so i'll sum up my thoughts here then leave ya'll to enjoy your show. -poorly paced - nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes -poorly written exposition - terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell -no emotional resonance - no idea who i was suppose to empathize for here -choppy animation - i thought my computer was fucking up until i noticed it was just the anime I understand now that you just commented on what you had just watched, still I just want to make clear that everything that you think is a problem is only a problem from the perspective of someone who doesn't know whats happening (well except for the animation problem)... nothing remotely interesting happened in the 1st 10 minutes Because you don't know what happens in the rest of the series, for us that know, everything from start to finish was interesting and exciting. terrible way to get information across is to explain it directly to the audience, show don't tell Because you're already supposed to know what happens, the exposition has already happened in the previous parts of the series. no emotional resonance - no idea who I was suppose to empathize for here Because you wasn't, the thing about the first death is that no one that knows what is happening expected her to be the first do die, it was a trolling surprise for everyone. Jesus christ people! Enough is enough already, move on from this supposed "discussion" already if you can't accept each other opinion on the show's first episode then just leave it already. Despite what the other person's opinion of the show is if he/she dislikes it then that's their loss they are free to do so just as you are free to like it no point in convincing them otherwise. Neither of you are right or correct on well every point that has been made so far: The only ones I will probably agree with: 1. Despite a terrible way of describing the episode and your thoughts calling it trash, they are correct you can't even say anything bad as part of a review without getting backlash for it. 2. I mean I thought the episode was boring for the first few minutes the mystery that made it Danganronpa is just gone but that's just the first episode so I can't really say anything yet I mean they spent all that time in a room only to be locked in discussing Naegi's treason and accomplished nothing and one of them ends up on the outside by coincidence and it's the butt monkey of the group I mean the only thing that excited me was well the blood and the dead body of the guards and the girl. Will you gang up on too for having such a negative opinion on the episode? 3. There are other ways to express yourself and going into a forum saying your dislike of an episode as your first impression is trash you were basically asking for it despite giving reasons as to why it was so bad is acceptable later on you should of have done so in the first place. It's like going to a crowd of like someone at anime expo saying you hate anime expo's for example. Exactly @Crazy Fantasy I agree with you |
Jul 12, 2016 1:52 PM
#342
JungoTorii said: Just to confirm, when Monokuma said the killing game happenned twice, did he mean the one in the first game and the one in the second game or the one in the first game and the tragedy of Hope's Peak? good question. -The First killing game happenned in the student council -The Second killing game happened during DR1 game (78th Class, and this game was National Live Broadcast) -The Third killing game happened during DR2 game (77th Class in the Neo World Program, this killing game only was broadcast for each division leader of future foundation, this is remarked by monokuma during the last trial) Only the second killing game is of public knowledge The first and third killing game only are of private knowledge (Hope Peak Academy and Future Foundation heads & Ex-students) Maybe this phrase can mean that this is the third game for naegi. First Game = DR1 Second Game = DR2 Last Trial or that the traitor don't know nothing about the first or the third game PD1: During DR:AE Togami and Naegi mention that somebody of Future Foundation are a traitor. (GG monaca?) PD2: Sorry my english |
ToshibeJul 12, 2016 1:57 PM
Jul 12, 2016 1:58 PM
#343
I'm really hoping this gets better...it had weird pacing for the first 10 mins and strange animation. I don't want to be disappointed so I hope it picks up in future episodes! Its so bizarre seeing red blood in this series after being used to pink, but I like it. I really love the theme song of this one. I really need to refresh myself on the order of everything since I haven't played the games in forever. I can't believe people are watching this without playing SDR2 though! |
Jul 12, 2016 2:11 PM
#344
" Hey isn't it a bad idea to have all our best members in one place?" " Nah, its fine. Our super top secret giant tower is undetectable" Outside of that. Perfectly fine opening. Better than I expected actually. It did annoy me that Makoto could of easily explained why he hid the despairs, but they beat on him and threaten the Hina and Kyoko. If only Byakuya was here to lay smackdown. The ending did get me pretty hype when they played Climax Reasoning. Love that track. My hope is that they show what the Ultimate Despairs are up to since Makoto and the others left them. Wouldn't be surprised if somehow they come to help as a way to prove Makoto right. |
Jul 12, 2016 3:37 PM
#345
Funimation botched the framerate somehow, I noticed. The visual stuttering isn't present in the original airing/raws. Haruhi-kun said: ok so im a bit confused. Monakuma said that they have done they death game two times? When was the second? I've only seen the anime i haven't read any of the manga or played the games.... It's called Danganronpa 3. Use your head and try to consider that maybe there's something inbetween this and Danganronpa 1. You managed to get onto a forum to ask this so presumably you're able to use google or some other search engine to look things up too. DR3 is the end of this story, the target audience are the people familiar with the previous entries. If you're not familiar with what comes before it (and there's enough in the series title for you to figure out if you're familiar enough with everything or not) then don't bother with this series. If you are interested then go fill in the gaps yourself and then come back afterwards, it's not difficult to do. |
azzarelloJul 12, 2016 4:17 PM
Jul 12, 2016 4:16 PM
#346
Well, didn't like the introduction scene where one person fights the other, making a stance and staying distant from the enemy, like some fighting match or something, seems unrealistic, as a shounem like someone here has put it. To injure your co-worker and actually threaten to death someone for being right and question this type of violence doesn't give me a good opnion about the foundation, how can people like them can be allowed to be even a member? kill someone with no proof whatsoever? the final scene is where the nostalgia kicks in as the episode pick the aspects of the previous show, masterfully executed.Also it manages to give some clues and a list of possible suspects. There are other questions but the anime will probably explain them, other than that, pretty solid episode: 7/10 |
JustAMangaFanJul 12, 2016 4:32 PM
Jul 12, 2016 4:25 PM
#347
Good lord, why is the blood red? That's going to bother me for a long time. The pink blood was a staple of Dangan Ronpa. Other than that, that was pretty decent. I'm kinda out of the loop with the whole story of Dangan Ronpa as of now, since I haven't really watched the anime or kept up with the games since 2014, but hey, I was curious to see what this new anime would offer. |
Was it the shyness in my soul that made me lonely just like you? No one noticed I was there, when I walked into the room. -Freddie Mercury |
Jul 12, 2016 4:29 PM
#348
Andrewapps said: So the Future Foundation decides to round up all the leaders onto an island fully aware that one of them could be a traitor working with the Despairs, AND THEN has them all meet in the same room when there were so many other ways to discuss Naegi's fate. One of the members even mentions how if the Despairs found them this place would be easy pickings, but I guess survivors of the most "tragic, horrific event" in human history just don't know what is best for their survival. I mean, they bring Naegi and co. into the fray when they believe him to be a traitor (which puts Aoi and the others as suspicious), which could have easily led the remnants of Despair to their location. So now the remnants of Despair will play yet another killing game even though they have all the main members of the Future Foundation in the palm of their hands (except Byakuya(?)). Seriously, just kill them and win. Keep your enemy alive long enough and they may just come back to haunt you. Oh well. I'll just sit back and enjoy what Danganronpa has to offer, which is a decent murder/mystery game. what you say are valid and very logical questions, however I think you missed one point. I will use the movie dark knight as an example: the joker objective is to create chaos, but why does he bother with making psycological games and torture or forcing people to explode themselves? Because that's is his objective to make every meaning, like hope, justice and morals, meaningless. In a deep analysis this is his motto, a representation of a bigger force that defines and pushes the joker to do this things. The same could be said to Monokuma, but switch chaos and meaningless with despair. That's why he isn't concern with just killing them |
Jul 12, 2016 4:54 PM
#349
Not bad, very nice start. Too bad that first episodes will be killing each other again... or they wont? I havent played any game, but I think most of the story will repeat itself as it was in first season. |
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´。✪ω✪。`) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
Jul 12, 2016 5:16 PM
#350
Moony_Sea said: dragonofmars said: people's taste never ceases to surprise but to each his own. simply put, this show looks terrible & it's terribly written. literally nothing to like about it. 1/5 As you said "to each his own". But honestly it surprises me your level of discredit towards Danganronpa considering how high you rated other shows which are lot worse. I think your way of rating is inconsistent. Danganronpa’s previous anime had flaws, the story was rushed and it lacked of character development, the same may happen to this new season, but we do not know it yet. However is way superior to animes like Elfen Lied or Btooom! which you rated 10/10 and 9/10 respectively. Both of them are superficial, bland, generic, incoherent and have several plot holes, you could read the review of SN-chan of Btooom! and the one of Aryagari of Elfen Lied, in case you wish to have a more in depth analysis of them (both match my opinion on the shows). Hey, please, I suggest you leave him alone, We already had a long post chain with him and resolved the situation, there's no need to prolong it anymore... |
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