Astros said: RE, reiynii, and Qoco voted grrr d1 iirc.RE1031 said: They were also willing to lynch Grrr Day One. I can link the quotes if you'd like. vote: reiynii >Day 1: "we should lynch people on grrr's train because he's easy" >Day 4: "i voted for grrr because i didn't believe his priest claim" T_____________________T |
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Astros said: RE1031 said: They were also willing to lynch Grrr Day One. I can link the quotes if you'd like. vote: reiynii >Day 1: "we should lynch people on grrr's train because he's easy" >Day 4: "i voted for grrr because i didn't believe his priest claim" T_____________________T I saw, but it was a pretty big switch in mindset, going from wanting to lynch people on grrr's train to joining the train... lol. I'm backing off it for now because with this many people voting for him, highly doubt he's cult leader. Kit said: RE1031 said: Well I did see that you voted CP briefly so I assumed you read it and didn't wanna respond to me ^^;I acknowledged it, I acknowledged the part about CP trusting Rosie. Sorry I didn't ping/quote you directly. I change my mind too easily. I really feel like I might be on to something.. esp considering his defensiveness after my case. But I don't really have meta on him, cause he died after one day in both games i watched with him in it... : Ic Yeah sorry about that, I was feeling really lazy. Anyway..... vote: CorruptedPurity Let's throw a wrench in everything :D |
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Hey logic, answer me this: If I am cult leader, who are my converts? If I was cultist, my first convert would never be Kit which is what half my theorycrafting is based on. My first convert would be you because you know my scum game better than anyone and are my biggest threat as scum, furthermore after arguing with you D1, town would see us as unaligned. If I was cultist, why didn't I convert you N1? Secondly, my second convert would be Penta because I believe he would make a beautiful asset to the my scum team, but as RE checked, he's not a cult member. So logic, if I really am CL, who are my converts? Think about it. Based on the fact that you're still crying and Penta didn't get killed by RE, I don't think the convert list fits me. |
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PentaFlare said: Can we not vote Purity? I can't see them possibly being cult leader. Let me dig up some posts to show this. |
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CorruptedPurity said: Qoco said: It's the same thing but with a different faction. I went from vanilla townie to vanilla scum. The difference is that we get a club. I don't really have any extra powers :) My proposition: from what I gather here, you're vanilla cult member? Cos zombie has no club(right?). Give us your cult leader and help us hunt zombie and we have a deal. We won't lynch you til hyper late game. Why is Purity trying to fish a cult leader out of Qoco here if they are the cult leader? One of the reasons I've seen for scumreading Purity is buying into things too easily. If that was the case and Purity knew that Qoco wasn't a cultist, they could have bought into logic's theory that Qoco was actually a zombie here. That would have been easy bonus credibility as far as I'm concerned. Show you know how scum would act and it will give credibility to your later cases. |
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logic340 said: @reiynii what is your vote on Rosie supposed to accomplish? @Doughkey your vote really isn't self preservation considering it's #4 on the train and you only have 2 votes at this time. Is there someone else you said you be better lynching someone else how do you feel about Purity? Yee, I overestimated my train and underestimated Rainys, ahue. Sleip and Kit can eat a wagon full of weiners for my previously stated reasons. I haven't had any unique thoughts about CP so I haven't really said much about him, he is one of those with a high chance of conversion. It really funny because when I saw CP in the roster I remembered playing with him a long time ago and had this idea he was a shitty player, not sure if I was just wrong or he improved drastically. But I digress. This game has kinnda just devolved into pointing fingers at who hasn't claimed a PR, so I can confirm, yes, CP has not claimed a power role. I did not see any posts that seem bad in really any sense. I can be persuaded pretty easily if someone can come up with some actual reasons for a train on him, but thus far I haven't seen anything. Shoutouts to Heman |
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RE1031 said: Frankly I don't believe Penta is town todayPentaFlare said: Can we not vote Purity? I can't see them possibly being cult leader. Let me dig up some posts to show this. but why would zombie defend cult? I doubt CP is zombie Did aa-dono say that if he got converted at the same time you guess, he wouldn't die? or did she say it was a secret or something |
Kit said: Frankly I don't believe Penta is town today but why would zombie defend cult? I doubt CP is zombie Did aa-dono say that if he got converted at the same time you guess, he wouldn't die? or did she say it was a secret or something She said she can't answer that. |
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CorruptedPurity said: Why Penta over Oyasumi? Their role was known N2 and is more useful to Cults. Hey logic, answer me this: If I am cult leader, who are my converts? If I was cultist, my first convert would never be Kit which is what half my theorycrafting is based on. My first convert would be you because you know my scum game better than anyone and are my biggest threat as scum, furthermore after arguing with you D1, town would see us as unaligned. If I was cultist, why didn't I convert you N1? Secondly, my second convert would be Penta because I believe he would make a beautiful asset to the my scum team, but as RE checked, he's not a cult member. So logic, if I really am CL, who are my converts? Think about it. Based on the fact that you're still crying and Penta didn't get killed by RE, I don't think the convert list fits me. |
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PentaFlare said: He's purposely making it known he's hunting for cult leader to make it look like he's not the cult leader. Even better credibility. If he knew Qoco was zombie I would call that even more TMI tbh so he made the better decision, if he is cult leaderCorruptedPurity said: My proposition: from what I gather here, you're vanilla cult member? Cos zombie has no club(right?). Give us your cult leader and help us hunt zombie and we have a deal. We won't lynch you til hyper late game. Why is Purity trying to fish a cult leader out of Qoco here if they are the cult leader? One of the reasons I've seen for scumreading Purity is buying into things too easily. If that was the case and Purity knew that Qoco wasn't a cultist, they could have bought into logic's theory that Qoco was actually a zombie here. That would have been easy bonus credibility as far as I'm concerned. Show you know how scum would act and it will give credibility to your later cases. |
CorruptedPurity said: logic340 said: I beg you to talk with all the town members and actually come to a consensus this time (unlike with the no lynch). I personally don't think Kit is a good look since we want to catch the Zombies or Cultist and it seems less likely that that is kit at this time with reiynii and Qoco both being caught up in a PR lie? I said I have deep reasons. I need two conditions to be fulfilled before I can do something... One of them is Kit's alignment, the second is the number of zombies at start of day 4, AKA I need Kit's report. I have a strong theory that will find scum regardless of the results of Kit's report (I still need it though for it to work). But first I need to know that I can trust Kit. I beg of you, give me the OK that Kit is town and I promise you fireworks. Don't ask me about my plan now or the zombies can play around it at night, just trust me and check Kit. I need to 100% trust her or we're going to be mislynching. Remember this thing? Purity kept harping on about how they had this big plan to track down all the zombies. That's a lot of attention being driven their way, especially from the zombies. The zombies are going to want Purity lynched or converted. As a cult leader, this is suuuuuper dangerous because you could risk killing your entire faction by getting the zombies against you. The cult leader needs to not be super aggressive in their attack against the zombies. The kind of cult leader I would expect is someone who indirectly hurts the zombies. Gives credit to claims like Kit and RE for example. People who's roles hurt the zombies. Supporting them hurts the zombies in the long run (unless Kit is fakeclaiming, but that's a whole other problem). |
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Oh, thats comically coincidental, I was digressing about my history with CP before I saw your question and it happened to be relevant, radical. |
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Kit said: Frankly I don't believe Penta is town today but why would zombie defend cult? I doubt CP is zombie Did aa-dono say that if he got converted at the same time you guess, he wouldn't die? or did she say it was a secret or something I love you too Kit |
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CorruptedPurity said: You didn't convert me N1 because I was in hot water for the No Lynch situation. I was looking at a possible mislynch D2. Why would you convert someone who was facing a lynch when it would only be you and me against the rest of the town? Sliepnirr would be an ok D1 c.hoice but Doki would probably be better. I don't know who would pick Kit D1 (that is just a speculation at this point anyway). Penta has had some suspicion due to the whole Cult Leader comment and just being Penta in general. grrr based on your admiration for his scum game.Hey logic, answer me this: If I am cult leader, who are my converts? If I was cultist, my first convert would never be Kit which is what half my theorycrafting is based on. My first convert would be you because you know my scum game better than anyone and are my biggest threat as scum, furthermore after arguing with you D1, town would see us as unaligned. If I was cultist, why didn't I convert you N1? Secondly, my second convert would be Penta because I believe he would make a beautiful asset to the my scum team, but as RE checked, he's not a cult member. So logic, if I really am CL, who are my converts? Think about it. Based on the fact that you're still crying and Penta didn't get killed by RE, I don't think the convert list fits me. grrr/Doki/sleipnirr or yurkin N3??? Your right you as cult leader doesn't make much sense with the remaining players and the way things stand with claims and what not. Unless my Rosie "role blocking" me and the cult converting me tonight thing is really going to happen? hm...I don't like the reiynii lynch it's going too smoothly why do you think that is? What would be an alternative choice if reiynii were off the table? |
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Astros said: Again I say, I will lose all my powers if converted. It's better for everyone if I stay unchangedWhy Penta over Oyasumi? Their role was known N2 and is more useful to Cults. |
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Astros said: CorruptedPurity said: Why Penta over Oyasumi? Their role was known N2 and is more useful to Cults. Hey logic, answer me this: If I am cult leader, who are my converts? If I was cultist, my first convert would never be Kit which is what half my theorycrafting is based on. My first convert would be you because you know my scum game better than anyone and are my biggest threat as scum, furthermore after arguing with you D1, town would see us as unaligned. If I was cultist, why didn't I convert you N1? Secondly, my second convert would be Penta because I believe he would make a beautiful asset to the my scum team, but as RE checked, he's not a cult member. So logic, if I really am CL, who are my converts? Think about it. Based on the fact that you're still crying and Penta didn't get killed by RE, I don't think the convert list fits me. She loses her role if I convert her. There's a higher chance she would hit zombie than me cos I'm bae. I would've picked Penta if I was the cultist because I know he is extremely competent as scum and can make a runaway win for the faction even if I died. So theoretically speaking, my dream scum team would be Logic, Penta, Me and some other side character (RE maybe?) 2 of my dream team is already confirmed not cult, so how am I cult leader? |
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Doughkey said: Um, didn't you only say you thought I was TPR as I said but with anti-town wincon? How does lynching me progress town's wincon when I can't even convert?Sleip and Kit can eat a wagon full of weiners for my previously stated reasons. |
Doughkey said: Far out duuude. I just finished that part, so you thought they were horrible? What gave you that impression and at what point did you realize that was the opposite?Oh, thats comically coincidental, I was digressing about my history with CP before I saw your question and it happened to be relevant, radical. |
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logic340 said: I know this wasn't to me, but a lot of people were also looking at dokihm...I don't like the reiynii lynch it's going too smoothly why do you think that is? What would be an alternative choice if reiynii were off the table? |
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RE1031 said: So, I'm going to just guess this means, he did get converted, but your action went first, and so didn't kill himKit said: Frankly I don't believe Penta is town today but why would zombie defend cult? I doubt CP is zombie Did aa-dono say that if he got converted at the same time you guess, he wouldn't die? or did she say it was a secret or something She said she can't answer that. |
logic340 said: What would be an alternative choice if reiynii were off the table? This wasn't directed to me, but since I've been thinking about other possibilities, I think Doki would be next if we don't lynch reiynii or Purity. I'm feeling much more of a town vibe from Doki than reiynii though. Also, remember, if reiynii is a zombie, they only have one partner to defend them. I wouldn't expect a rousing defense in that case. If reiynii was still lynched, it would spell doom for the zombies. |
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CorruptedPurity said: ...some other side character (RE maybe?) Ohohoho~ My vote's totally sticking. |
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Kit said: So, I'm going to just guess this means, he did get converted, but your action went first, and so didn't kill him I don't really understand how that works though. The order night actions are sent shouldn't matter, because it's not like I can tell what the cult's doing and vice versa. |
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Astros said: Penta as a player is more useful than Rosie. Rosie is going to be facing suspicion and possible lynch moving forward with no tangible way to prove her role she is a risk for cult or zombie conversion imo. CorruptedPurity said: Why Penta over Oyasumi? Their role was known N2 and is more useful to Cults. Hey logic, answer me this: If I am cult leader, who are my converts? If I was cultist, my first convert would never be Kit which is what half my theorycrafting is based on. My first convert would be you because you know my scum game better than anyone and are my biggest threat as scum, furthermore after arguing with you D1, town would see us as unaligned. If I was cultist, why didn't I convert you N1? Secondly, my second convert would be Penta because I believe he would make a beautiful asset to the my scum team, but as RE checked, he's not a cult member. So logic, if I really am CL, who are my converts? Think about it. Based on the fact that you're still crying and Penta didn't get killed by RE, I don't think the convert list fits me. |
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Astros said: Doughkey said: Far out duuude. I just finished that part, so you thought they were horrible? What gave you that impression and at what point did you realize that was the opposite?Oh, thats comically coincidental, I was digressing about my history with CP before I saw your question and it happened to be relevant, radical. Honestly couldn't tell you why I thought they were awful, in my mind I had thrown him into the same category as like Rinto and Sleip though. It had probably been atleast a year since the last game I played with them. My impression changed from D1 when he started making legitimate and comprehensive posts. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Did you not read Logic's reply to your last message about this? I'd wager you didn't considering you didn't know what day it was. Anyway, if converted you could lie about your reports. Even get fellow cult members to claim they were RB'd if need be. Again I say, I will lose all my powers if converted. It's better for everyone if I stay unchanged |
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PentaFlare said: Unless you are saying Kit is the Zombie at this point there are none on CP's train so that point would be moot unless you think kit is the zombie?CorruptedPurity said: I said I have deep reasons. I need two conditions to be fulfilled before I can do something... One of them is Kit's alignment, the second is the number of zombies at start of day 4, AKA I need Kit's report. I have a strong theory that will find scum regardless of the results of Kit's report (I still need it though for it to work). But first I need to know that I can trust Kit. I beg of you, give me the OK that Kit is town and I promise you fireworks. Don't ask me about my plan now or the zombies can play around it at night, just trust me and check Kit. I need to 100% trust her or we're going to be mislynching. Remember this thing? Purity kept harping on about how they had this big plan to track down all the zombies. That's a lot of attention being driven their way, especially from the zombies. The zombies are going to want Purity lynched or converted. As a cult leader, this is suuuuuper dangerous because you could risk killing your entire faction by getting the zombies against you. The cult leader needs to not be super aggressive in their attack against the zombies. The kind of cult leader I would expect is someone who indirectly hurts the zombies. Gives credit to claims like Kit and RE for example. People who's roles hurt the zombies. Supporting them hurts the zombies in the long run (unless Kit is fakeclaiming, but that's a whole other problem). |
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yurkin said: While this is good thinking in theory it's not necessarily in practice. I was in a bad spot to start D2 and his position against mine on the no lynch issue would have put us in a bad spot since he doesn't bus. I don't buy I would be his first choice. Maybe if I hadn't caused a no lynch but I did.#2558 Thouh that kit was the first target to the cultist was only an assumption based on her claim. And CP and logic recently were scumbuddies in Alkatraz, if i were on the place of CP i shouldn't try to cult logic because of that. But eeh, who knows... |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Unless you are saying Kit is the Zombie at this point there are none on CP's train so that point would be moot unless you think kit is the zombie?Remember this thing? Purity kept harping on about how they had this big plan to track down all the zombies. That's a lot of attention being driven their way, especially from the zombies. The zombies are going to want Purity lynched or converted. As a cult leader, this is suuuuuper dangerous because you could risk killing your entire faction by getting the zombies against you. The cult leader needs to not be super aggressive in their attack against the zombies. The kind of cult leader I would expect is someone who indirectly hurts the zombies. Gives credit to claims like Kit and RE for example. People who's roles hurt the zombies. Supporting them hurts the zombies in the long run (unless Kit is fakeclaiming, but that's a whole other problem). I would respond to your question, but it is soooooooo unrelated to what I said that I can't even understand what you could possibly be asking. |
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Kit said: Doughkey said: Um, didn't you only say you thought I was TPR as I said but with anti-town wincon? How does lynching me progress town's wincon when I can't even convert?Sleip and Kit can eat a wagon full of weiners for my previously stated reasons. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1604888&show=2350#msg50366268 |
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CorruptedPurity said: Huh. I didn't tag Penta for a powerful mafia player. I'm missing so much due to no meta. ._. @logic340 @Doughkey can confirm? She loses her role if I convert her. There's a higher chance she would hit zombie than me cos I'm bae. I would've picked Penta if I was the cultist because I know he is extremely competent as scum and can make a runaway win for the faction even if I died. So theoretically speaking, my dream scum team would be Logic, Penta, Me and some other side character (RE maybe?) 2 of my dream team is already confirmed not cult, so how am I cult leader? |
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logic340 said: Reiynii - Meta is convenient for staying alive. They've asked to be converted or infected multiple times.4 people voting reiynii right now what is the case against him? Fake PR claim Husband Hunting Voted grrr D1 Knew grrr was lying? What else? But I don't think that points toward them being Cult Leader. |
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logic340 said: 4 people voting reiynii right now what is the case against him? Fake PR claim Husband Hunting Voted grrr D1 Knew grrr was lying? What else? Process of Elimination. My case is based on the idea that while everyone else seems at least a little townie, reiynii doesn't have an ounce of towniness yet. That is just scummy relative to everyone else. |
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PentaFlare said: logic340 said: Unless you are saying Kit is the Zombie at this point there are none on CP's train so that point would be moot unless you think kit is the zombie? I would respond to your question, but it is soooooooo unrelated to what I said that I can't even understand what you could possibly be asking. Are you so sure of CP's innocence that you would you be fine switching places with him? *blinks eyes innocently* |
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PentaFlare said: What it has to do with your post is the fact that unless Kit is a Zombie your point is moot because the Zombies aren't trying to get CP lynched. It destroys your whole thought about getting the zombies on his bad side. From my point of view. It's not a defense for CP not Cult leader is what I am getting at.logic340 said: Unless you are saying Kit is the Zombie at this point there are none on CP's train so that point would be moot unless you think kit is the zombie? I would respond to your question, but it is soooooooo unrelated to what I said that I can't even understand what you could possibly be asking. |
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logic340 said: Considering their playstyle so far I could see that. Oyasumi is making themselves suspicious all on their own to me. HmmPenta as a player is more useful than Rosie. Rosie is going to be facing suspicion and possible lynch moving forward with no tangible way to prove her role she is a risk for cult or zombie conversion imo. |
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PentaFlare said: Then he is in a basket with grrr basically. Do you think scum would act scummy especially if they are the cult leader? logic340 said: 4 people voting reiynii right now what is the case against him? Fake PR claim Husband Hunting Voted grrr D1 Knew grrr was lying? What else? Process of Elimination. My case is based on the idea that while everyone else seems at least a little townie, reiynii doesn't have an ounce of towniness yet. That is just scummy relative to everyone else. I hate the case on reiynii and want all the votes moved to somewhere else. If he flips town there is no making them answer for these votes as cult will essentially hold the vote majority. |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: What it has to do with your post is the fact that unless Kit is a Zombie your point is moot because the Zombies aren't trying to get CP lynched. It destroys your whole thought about getting the zombies on his bad side. From my point of view. It's not a defense for CP not Cult leader is what I am getting at.I would respond to your question, but it is soooooooo unrelated to what I said that I can't even understand what you could possibly be asking. Huh? My point is that Purity was talking about a huge plan to catch all the zombies as long as Kit is proven innocent. It has nothing to do with who is voting for who and everything to do with Purity having a way to catch zombies. This is dangerous for the zombies if it is true, so they will try to get rid of Purity. It doesn't matter if they actually have taken action to do so, simply by opening themselves up to the possibility, Purity would be making a bad play if they were cult leader. I don't think they can be cult leader. |
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