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Apr 7, 2017 7:26 AM
#301
Kit said: grrr said: If you're the priest then you just made yourself useless lol so I don't believe itHow am I weird you are weird. I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. you do this fake claim stuff as town too tho so whatever just ignore himmaybe he will go away, but serously hes prob a vt |
Apr 7, 2017 7:27 AM
#302
yurkin said: Grrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ not true at all because most of the game is filled with experienced players if grrr isnt the preist i doubt the real preist would counter claim at all, i doubt grrr would want that either. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:27 AM
#303
logic340 said: So the only person who doesn't know that they are a power role is the sleepwalker?This doesn't feel like a normal Kit question. Honestly the majority of your posts feel off to me at this point. The backup would know they are the backup. So while their ability wouldn't be active there would still be two Priests in the game? What a tricky game! |
Apr 7, 2017 7:29 AM
#304
Sleipnirr said: Players do not know they are infected. They only find out once they have been successfully converted and they are only made aware of the person who converted them. So D2 unless a zombie tries to let the person they infected know some how the townie wont know and their behavior wont change until they are actually converted on D3.logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: See with knowing that conversations can happen I do not agree with throwing out all town reads. This is my first time in this type of setup but especially as early as D2 I wont be throwing out my town reads so easily. Why? Because only one person can be converted N1. Why throw out all my work from D1 when only 1 out for the remaining 14-15 players has the chance of being converted? Sounds silly to me honestly, now on D3 when there is the potential for 3 more conversions then it makes a whole lot more sense. I can understand being ready but some of what I am reading seems more like fear mongering based on the setup. logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: As the number of scum increase actually lynching scum will become easier. I don't know about throwning out reads completely as tonal and behavioral changes could lead us to potential scum due to conversions. okay I will start backreading rn from what I understand reading the setup there is not going to be nk instead conversion. So this game will be more centered around mind games rather than suspicions as you wont be able to trust your reads whole game (if you are thinking about that I suggest you change that mentality) We have to take each days' posts as independent post as someone might be converted and honestly if we dont get a scum flip first day I think its gonna be very hard to win this game. The host didnt specify but I am assuming that they will be able to convert in the first night so in day 2 we will have at least 4 scums and with each day its gonna keep getting harder and harder since we cant just universally town read someone and decrease our poe list. Anyway as always if you wanna talk or want my opinion on something just tag my name I will answer it as best as I can Not throwing out reads throwing out your town reads. You can still scum read people just not town read as that might affect your mentality and you would become unwilling to lynch that person and if that person is turned into a cultist then that town read can make town potentially lose the game. Secondly yeah it will be easier to lynch scum but their number will keep growing but if we get a scum in the first its gonna be huge for town and we can potentially stop a faction before even becoming a real threat to town. Actually not 1 person but 3 Cultist will convert 1 and zombies will convert 2 N1 - Cult Conversion which takes place D2 (1 Conversion) N2 - Potential for 2 Zombie conversions plus a second Cult Conversion (3 conversions) D3 - Start worst case scenario we have 4 (2 cult and 2zombie) conversions and have caught no scum yet. Oh right I forgot that they would wait for 1 day but if the players knows that they are infected do you think that they will play pro town? I dont believe that is the case (unless the player doesnt know that he is infected) Also I backread but I cant really understand the heat on penta that claim seems like something he would do and about grr's calim you know he is grr you cant say that he lied or told the truth. |
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Apr 7, 2017 7:29 AM
#305
RE1031 said: yurkin said: Grrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ There is a possibility of two priests, since there are 16 players and thus either a second priest or a town roleblocker. If anything, priest is the best role to claim for a guilty player because we are less likely to lynch a claimed PR AND 1. If there is one priest in the mix, then anyone who fake claims priest is set for the game. 2. If there are two priests, then anyone who fake claims is almost set for the game because the two real priests won't know each other and the chances of both of them claiming is unlikely until late game. Of course, if we prod enough, grrr'll have to reveal which of the priests he is. So all we can do is await his follow up to the claim. But rather than him establishing which of the priests he is, I would like to hear why he decided to claim early. Because it seems like an un-PR thing to do. edit: Good night -w- edit 2: About infected people being to infect others - I actually hadn't thought about this, but it can't apply to the Priest, or at least the confirmed Priest. The priest can only visit himself. The secondary priest, which may or may not exist, doesn't appear to be immune to zombification at all. Also, converted cultists can't visit other players, since it states that they lose their original roles. So fortunately we don't need to worry about whether a cultist appears town/PR to the Priest because they can't visit him to begin with. Zombies on the other hand seem to be a pain to handle, but fortunately they spread far less quickly. Which reminds me of a question I had earlier - do infected townies/cultists fall under zombies or their original party? TOo much speculation lol, if anything dono prob just added another vanilla. No way she would add another preist that make town too powerful and very hard for the zombie team to win. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:30 AM
#306
yurkin said: Oh, I saw that: Back ups - not included in the initial ratio, somehow i've missed it before, so there is the possibility RE mentioned about, priest x2, or a roleblocker. btw the second priest have different abillity. only if the preist is one of the first 2 pr to die which i hope that doesnt happen lol |
Apr 7, 2017 7:30 AM
#307
yurkin said: I think the cult is the faction here that resembles the mafia, where as in a regular mafia game, you can only catch mafia by lynching and so is the cult here. Zombies are life a serial killer third party with the extra ability to "train others to make them serial killers as well" .I need to reread the abilities, but once the cult start to spread is there a mechanism or ability enable to slow down its growth? I also have to re read the abilities... |
Apr 7, 2017 7:31 AM
#308
Kit said: Shinichi-Kun said: yeah sorry now that im caught up i realize im beating a dead horse lolKit said: Shinichi-Kun said: I'm sure this has been discussed but while I'm catching up: this sounds like a more terrible idea than it usually is because 1. more scums alive more conversions happening faster 2. we will need to carefully reexamine everyone every new day phase because of the conversions so we need to not be wasting time not lynchingBtw ik this is weird after all my voting posts about cp, i think no lynch might be better tho this is just my opinion cause it makes it harder for a pr to get converted with mre people alive, tho its obviously better if we could manage to lynch one of the converters roles day 1. and every town (ie a prevented mislynch thru nolynching) is a potential future scum, which could potentially be dangerous Though while I'm thinking about this, I just realized the usefulness of zombies to town- they essentially can eliminate a cult conversion for a night :Ic hm I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none you shhhh lol This is under the assumption we acctually lynch one of the conversion roles outside of that a mislynch i still think helps scum here more than a normal game. How ya gonna choose a preference not like they will claim for us XD. i think the possibility of a scum lynch is much much much higher priority than the predictability of a no-lynch sparing towns like duh town dying is bad but not lynching in order to prevent town death is even worse. you need to take some risks in life to get anywhere. we can't sit on our hands and no lynch our way to victory Town will have a death regardless, i was just thinking into the future of not the cultist an easier chance to convert a pr. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:32 AM
#309
Kit said: yurkin said: it is still possible it is a fake claimGrrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ grr is town: trying to throw off zombies so they avoid him and go for the real priest grr is scum (zombie): trying to get real priest to counter claim so that they know who to avoid grr is scum (cult): same as town reason but for townie points to not get lynched, instead of in towns best intrerest 1 and 3 are more liekly 2 is too risky even for grrr. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:34 AM
#310
Doughkey said: I loved playing with Shinichi-kun and Grrr as mafia because they are so easy to frame and they generally give a nonchalant feel so people don't care as much as to stick up for you~Grr probably didn't put that much thought into it and just thought "lol it would be funny to claim :D" |
Apr 7, 2017 7:35 AM
#311
Kit said: Ok so, I'm not going to give town reads because in a conversion game it'd be dangerous if a highly town read person got converted to scum since there's three scum, i'll pick three i feel may be scum. Doki, for reasons stated, and i feel like he was intentionally trying to look like he was scum hunting, but the stuff he posted about me and cp was so useless it may as well have been fluff. Ruu, I have a bad feeling about her, and when I have a bad feeling about her this early she turns out scum... I think she seems very careful, calculated this game. I'm scared. ... actually i can't even figure out a third person because from them up most of my feelings are "im not sure" "i dont remember" or "seems town" suppose this is fine for now. time to get some sleep hopefully SUrprised u notice how bad letting ur town reads out would be Bad feeling like how ruu acted in her game with suzu? Also im still pretty biased on doki cause this is how he plays everygame so i cant get an alignment off of it. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:38 AM
#312
yurkin said: And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Still cant believe this is only ur 2nd game lol One thing i think is if any town blocks start being formed they might just be a bunch of zombies if it happens later in the game. We will all just have to keep our eyes open. Having 2 organized converters seems scary so lets not allow the zombies to sneak some secret communication between them. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:38 AM
#313
CorruptedPurity said: +1I also now want to lynch someone on Grrr's train cause scum should be lurking in there. He's too easy of a lynch fodder. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:42 AM
#314
CorruptedPurity said: yurkin said: @logic340 #200 Voting for rosie were simply rvs, not real suspect, but can't say i exclude players from suspicion. I don't trust people which say trust me in general, and from my lame deductions - the cultist is is one person, if lynched day1 the cult is done fore, i think if pursued or pressured in some way the cultist will try really hard to defend itself. Overall Purity seem to be acting that way, but who knows, different individuals act different, can't put everything in one frame. Sound reasoning but you forgot one thing. I drew the attention to myself and put myself in that spot so that I can defend and clear the air so that I can play the way I want. If I am the cultist as you say, wouldn't I play more conservative than defensive? I would say that the cultiest cannot afford to attract attention to himself at all, which is the opposite of what I was doing. Even if I look at myself from an outsider's POV, I dont think I am the cultist, if anything, there's a higher chance of me being a zombie if I'm scum at all. If you're looking at cultist, I'd rather look at those quieter ones that participate but minimally, somewhere along the lines of Rinto, Rosie or Ruu. Question to town: Is zombie or cultist a higher threat to us day 1? Let's say we found a zombie and a cultist, which do you lynch first? day 1 cultist day 2 zombie |
Apr 7, 2017 7:43 AM
#315
Shinichi-Kun said: Kit said: yurkin said: Grrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ grr is town: trying to throw off zombies so they avoid him and go for the real priest grr is scum (zombie): trying to get real priest to counter claim so that they know who to avoid grr is scum (cult): same as town reason but for townie points to not get lynched, instead of in towns best intrerest 1 and 3 are more liekly 2 is too risky even for grrr. Note: For 3, cultist would also want to know who the priest is so that they won't convert the priest. The zombie is a huge threat to the cult and thus they want the priest to be out there and alive to counter the zombies. Not just "for townie points", there is a reason for cultist to pull off this gambit too. If it was literally any other player, I will read deep into this and think hard about what the claim is for and how it should be treated, but since it's grrr, meh. Like Grrr's claim is like Schrodinger's cat, until he is lynched and flips, he is both the priest and not the priest in my eyes. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:43 AM
#316
logic340 said: Kit said: This doesn't feel like a normal Kit question. Honestly the majority of your posts feel off to me at this point. The backup would know they are the backup. So while their ability wouldn't be active there would still be two Priests in the game?RE1031 said: yurkin said: Grrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ There is a possibility of two priests, since there are 16 players and thus either a second priest or a town roleblocker. If anything, priest is the best role to claim for a guilty player because we are less likely to lynch a claimed PR AND 1. If there is one priest in the mix, then anyone who fake claims priest is set for the game. 2. If there are two priests, then anyone who fake claims is almost set for the game because the two real priests won't know each other and the chances of both of them claiming is unlikely until late game. Of course, if we prod enough, grrr'll have to reveal which of the priests he is. So all we can do is await his follow up to the claim. But rather than him establishing which of the priests he is, I would like to hear why he decided to claim early. Because it seems like an un-PR thing to do. edit: Good night -w- edit 2: About infected people being to infect others - I actually hadn't thought about this, but it can't apply to the Priest, or at least the confirmed Priest. The priest can only visit himself. The secondary priest, which may or may not exist, doesn't appear to be immune to zombification at all. Also, converted cultists can't visit other players, since it states that they lose their original roles. So fortunately we don't need to worry about whether a cultist appears town/PR to the Priest because they can't visit him to begin with. Zombies on the other hand seem to be a pain to handle, but fortunately they spread far less quickly. Which reminds me of a question I had earlier - do infected townies/cultists fall under zombies or their original party? yurkin said: Oh, I saw that: Back ups - not included in the initial ratio, somehow i've missed it before, so there is the possibility RE mentioned about, priest x2, or a roleblocker. btw the second priest have different abillity. @aa-dono do the back up know they're back up or can any vanilla be backup? |
Apr 7, 2017 7:46 AM
#317
PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". this is a very good question |
Apr 7, 2017 7:47 AM
#318
What's the point of the sleep walker??? Their basically a fancy villager at the end of the day. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:47 AM
#319
grrr ☒ Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco, RE1031 Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Kit ☒ Doughkey, PentaFlare, logic340 Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Sleipnirr, CorruptedPurity, Astros Mod Note(s) Replying to Shin-chan's #316 : Any vanilla when a condition is triggered. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:47 AM
#320
PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr [quote=grrr message=50252890] I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. |
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Apr 7, 2017 7:49 AM
#321
CorruptedPurity said: @Astros why are you not voting? I claimed early on that I wont be participating in RVS and took a shit from Doki and shini cause of it. I explained my rationale behind it and am very open about it. You had time to think, where will your vote lie? And if you're choosing to keep it, why? I also now want to lynch someone on Grrr's train cause scum should be lurking in there. He's too easy of a lynch fodder. I disagree because i dont think the zombie would risk giving himself away by jumping on the train of a claim priest nor would the cultist because they have no reason to get the preist lynched. As for astro i think he hates day 1 votes too im not sure. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:52 AM
#322
Doughkey said: I figured the votes on me would scoot after like 16 hours because one is like a threat for me to marry them, one didn't have a message, and the other was because of my disdain for the D word mostly. Vote on Kit was asspulled to create conversation and have some kind of substance over a useless RVS. Confrontation with CP was also to provide information, he was online at the time so I bit. Kit is neutral/scum because of useless fluff posts, OMGUS, and the better stated reason of what Penta posted at the top of this page. CP is neutral/town for now. Being overly defensive was kind of sus, everything else I said was just to trigger you into talking more or cracking. I disagree with your play but despite what I said, you really can't scum read off of a consistent meta. Like Grr, he is always anti-town, but that doesn't mean he is scum. And real talk, I skim or ignore parts of your posts when they are bulked into big ass paragraphs. I am a hypocrite though. not surprised the votes havent moved, compared to grrr train i do think someone on ur train has a high chance of being scum. Also this exactly what I thought but ik ur playstyle the rest don't so it was mine and your word against the world. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:52 AM
#323
Doughkey said: Has Grr been getting killed early in his latest games? nope but he claimed miller early in 1 game when he was vt |
Apr 7, 2017 7:53 AM
#324
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? Re vote is off tbf cause that train is way beyond the need of pressure just saying. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:53 AM
#325
logic340 said: 1- Someone will be converted if we don't chance lynching the converter, and that only adds danger to us.I think I would take the No Lynch in this situation for multiple reasons: 1. It makes it harder for a PR to be converted/infected 2. Start D1 at 13-2-1 would start D2 at 12-2-2 3. We don't risk losing a PR on the only night we are assured to have them all at our disposal. 4. If we lynch the priest is severely limits our chances of success. 2- We can always get lucky with the lynch if we play close enough attention. With lots of people, I always see the focus on a very small number of players like Grrr or Doughkey or Kit in this situation, and despite you being almost the most active, nobody is really doubting or questioning you (I do see their point, since the post I'm replying to right now is utterly townie. You're a safe read in my opinion!) 3- Good point, but then cults and zombies could hit PR anyway since there will be 3 attacks if we aren't lucky. 4- I doubt Grrr is the priest anyway but then we should just stay away from the more active player. I hate to say it since it sounds more hopeful than realistic but I don't reckon PRs would be quiet and lowkey. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:55 AM
#326
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. |
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Apr 7, 2017 7:56 AM
#327
Sleipnirr said: Shinichi-Kun said: Sleipnirr said: Hi there I decided to replace suzune as on impulse. Dont expect much from me and I just pulled an allnighter so I am going to sleep (thats how I found the replacement too was messing with the phone and saw the message on skype) I have one question to everyone though if you have played with me before what are your thoughts on my play style if not what are your thoughts on this post. Anything is fine as long you just post something. For the ones who dont know or dont remember my old name was Kasai so see ya I rather you play how you used to than try to be super aggresive which ik ur not lol. Sorry but I dont really feel very good about this post it almost feels like you are trying to manipulate me by making me go back to my old style which you know much better than the current one making it easier for you to control or anticipate my actions. And I know very well how you can manipulate some one Izaya no im just saying the reason i voted you in the last game was cause i thought u were forcing scum reads and scum hunting. Kinda like what doki is doing but its not odd coming from him, from you it was very odd since ur normally very passive. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:57 AM
#328
logic340 said: Kit said: I have to ask you to clarify why it sounds more horrible to NL D1? Mislynching doesn't stop a conversion from happening and narrows the pool of players making it quicker for the zombies or cult to achieve their win condition. So if you feel it's t/t leading the lynch would you lynch for information? Try to find the actual scum? or push a no lynch if possible? Honestly in a t/t leading lynch situation I think I would take the No Lynch in this situation for multiple reasons:Shinichi-Kun said: Btw ik this is weird after all my voting posts about cp, i think no lynch might be better tho this is just my opinion cause it makes it harder for a pr to get converted with mre people alive, tho its obviously better if we could manage to lynch one of the converters roles day 1. and every town (ie a prevented mislynch thru nolynching) is a potential future scum, which could potentially be dangerous Though while I'm thinking about this, I just realized the usefulness of zombies to town- they essentially can eliminate a cult conversion for a night :Ic hm I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none 1. It makes it harder for a PR to be converted/infected 2. Start D1 at 13-2-1 would start D2 at 12-2-2 3. We don't risk losing a PR on the only night we are assured to have them all at our disposal. 4. If we lynch the priest is severely limits our chances of success. Kit said: I don't see a problem with giving town reads because all reads will need to be reevaluated the next day anyway due to conversations. There are kind of distinct mindsets for the Zombies and Cult Leader imo so think about what they need to do to achieve their win con and I think you will see that handing out town reads isn't as detrimental as you think (so long as you constantly reevaluate them). Ok so, I'm not going to give town reads because in a conversion game it'd be dangerous if a highly town read person got converted to scum since there's three scum, i'll pick three i feel may be scum. Doki, for reasons stated, and i feel like he was intentionally trying to look like he was scum hunting, but the stuff he posted about me and cp was so useless it may as well have been fluff. Ruu, I have a bad feeling about her, and when I have a bad feeling about her this early she turns out scum... I think she seems very careful, calculated this game. I'm scared. ... actually i can't even figure out a third person because from them up most of my feelings are "im not sure" "i dont remember" or "seems town" suppose this is fine for now. time to get some sleep hopefully In a sense i see a problem mainly because when the more influencial reads or players get converted town might still follow them. |
Apr 7, 2017 7:58 AM
#329
logic340 said: I like you :o you remind me of one of my good friends !! Join my harem, Matty!!!Get it together... |
Apr 7, 2017 8:01 AM
#330
Sleipnirr said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I agree but with lynching being our primary way of gather information it becomes imperative that we lynch. So if the situation arises at the EoD1 where I am not comfortable with either target I would probably bring up the idea though I know it will come with repercussions. I did the math last night 3 mislynches with everything else going right for Zombies and Cultists and this game is over EoD3.logic340 said: CorruptedPurity said: Actaully D2 we would go into it with 0 information from the lynch and the possibility of two infected townies (who wont turn Zombie until start of D3). Shinichi-Kun said: CorruptedPurity said: Shinichi-Kun said: Btw ik this is weird after all my voting posts about cp, i think no lynch might be better tho this is just my opinion cause it makes it harder for a pr to get converted with mre people alive, tho its obviously better if we could manage to lynch one of the converters roles day 1. Tbh, in a game like this with both a cult and a zombie, scum(or anti-town) will increase exponentially. It's better to nip the flower at the bud. Kill of the cult leader/zombie before it starts laying eggs. You say this lol but gotta help is find the so called zombie and cult leaders. Idm quoting this as it's short and easier on my mobile. I'm just saying that nl shouldn't even be an option this game. I actually wouldn't mind nl in other setups (even though I never expressed my interest in nl before), but I think that not lynching day 1 in this particular set up is just asking for it. Night falls. Cultist cults one, zombies infect 2 and we enter day 2 with 0 information and 3 less potential townies. I really would like to push for a lunch in day 1. I'm not trying to be the guy who just says shit and does nothing. Even though I'm not voting now, I will vote my strongest scum read before phase ends but I really think that a lunch is required today. D1 13-2-1 D2 12-2-2 If we go with no lynch D1 (2 possibly infected and 1 cultist converter) D3 9-4-3 If we mislynch D2 (with 2 converted Zombies and 2 converted cultists) So while I was thinking about it tend to agree with you line of thinking unless we are in a very bad T/T leading the lynch situation or RVS lynch is about to go down. With limited chances to kill Zombies and Cultist we need to nip them in the bud as early as possible but mislynching along the way just makes it easier for those exponential growth to kill us even quicker. So while I do not think NL is the best choice I think it deserves some consideration depending on what type of situation we find ourselves in. Problem this creates is mislynch unlike other mafia games is extremely detremential here 3 mislynches and town will be in a very bad spot. yep your right i was def wrong bringing up the no lynch option i feel, another thing that i think would bother me alot are people that claim i dont think im gonna trust a single claim during this game. What do you mean by that? At worst you should be able to trust the first day claims as this is the only time we can be sure that they are town. yes but if we focus too hard on those claims we will lose sight of the fact they may or may not have been converted unless their behavior completely changes. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:03 AM
#331
Sleipnirr said: logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: See with knowing that conversations can happen I do not agree with throwing out all town reads. This is my first time in this type of setup but especially as early as D2 I wont be throwing out my town reads so easily. Why? Because only one person can be converted N1. Why throw out all my work from D1 when only 1 out for the remaining 14-15 players has the chance of being converted? Sounds silly to me honestly, now on D3 when there is the potential for 3 more conversions then it makes a whole lot more sense. I can understand being ready but some of what I am reading seems more like fear mongering based on the setup. logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: As the number of scum increase actually lynching scum will become easier. I don't know about throwning out reads completely as tonal and behavioral changes could lead us to potential scum due to conversions. okay I will start backreading rn from what I understand reading the setup there is not going to be nk instead conversion. So this game will be more centered around mind games rather than suspicions as you wont be able to trust your reads whole game (if you are thinking about that I suggest you change that mentality) We have to take each days' posts as independent post as someone might be converted and honestly if we dont get a scum flip first day I think its gonna be very hard to win this game. The host didnt specify but I am assuming that they will be able to convert in the first night so in day 2 we will have at least 4 scums and with each day its gonna keep getting harder and harder since we cant just universally town read someone and decrease our poe list. Anyway as always if you wanna talk or want my opinion on something just tag my name I will answer it as best as I can Not throwing out reads throwing out your town reads. You can still scum read people just not town read as that might affect your mentality and you would become unwilling to lynch that person and if that person is turned into a cultist then that town read can make town potentially lose the game. Secondly yeah it will be easier to lynch scum but their number will keep growing but if we get a scum in the first its gonna be huge for town and we can potentially stop a faction before even becoming a real threat to town. Actually not 1 person but 3 Cultist will convert 1 and zombies will convert 2 N1 - Cult Conversion which takes place D2 (1 Conversion) N2 - Potential for 2 Zombie conversions plus a second Cult Conversion (3 conversions) D3 - Start worst case scenario we have 4 (2 cult and 2zombie) conversions and have caught no scum yet. Oh right I forgot that they would wait for 1 day but if the players knows that they are infected do you think that they will play pro town? I dont believe that is the case (unless the player doesnt know that he is infected) Also I backread but I cant really understand the heat on penta that claim seems like something he would do and about grr's calim you know he is grr you cant say that he lied or told the truth. Any behaviorial changes will be a sign of alignment change so i doubt they would do that. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:05 AM
#332
logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: Players do not know they are infected. They only find out once they have been successfully converted and they are only made aware of the person who converted them. So D2 unless a zombie tries to let the person they infected know some how the townie wont know and their behavior wont change until they are actually converted on D3.logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: See with knowing that conversations can happen I do not agree with throwing out all town reads. This is my first time in this type of setup but especially as early as D2 I wont be throwing out my town reads so easily. Why? Because only one person can be converted N1. Why throw out all my work from D1 when only 1 out for the remaining 14-15 players has the chance of being converted? Sounds silly to me honestly, now on D3 when there is the potential for 3 more conversions then it makes a whole lot more sense. I can understand being ready but some of what I am reading seems more like fear mongering based on the setup. logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: As the number of scum increase actually lynching scum will become easier. I don't know about throwning out reads completely as tonal and behavioral changes could lead us to potential scum due to conversions. okay I will start backreading rn from what I understand reading the setup there is not going to be nk instead conversion. So this game will be more centered around mind games rather than suspicions as you wont be able to trust your reads whole game (if you are thinking about that I suggest you change that mentality) We have to take each days' posts as independent post as someone might be converted and honestly if we dont get a scum flip first day I think its gonna be very hard to win this game. The host didnt specify but I am assuming that they will be able to convert in the first night so in day 2 we will have at least 4 scums and with each day its gonna keep getting harder and harder since we cant just universally town read someone and decrease our poe list. Anyway as always if you wanna talk or want my opinion on something just tag my name I will answer it as best as I can Not throwing out reads throwing out your town reads. You can still scum read people just not town read as that might affect your mentality and you would become unwilling to lynch that person and if that person is turned into a cultist then that town read can make town potentially lose the game. Secondly yeah it will be easier to lynch scum but their number will keep growing but if we get a scum in the first its gonna be huge for town and we can potentially stop a faction before even becoming a real threat to town. Actually not 1 person but 3 Cultist will convert 1 and zombies will convert 2 N1 - Cult Conversion which takes place D2 (1 Conversion) N2 - Potential for 2 Zombie conversions plus a second Cult Conversion (3 conversions) D3 - Start worst case scenario we have 4 (2 cult and 2zombie) conversions and have caught no scum yet. Oh right I forgot that they would wait for 1 day but if the players knows that they are infected do you think that they will play pro town? I dont believe that is the case (unless the player doesnt know that he is infected) Also I backread but I cant really understand the heat on penta that claim seems like something he would do and about grr's calim you know he is grr you cant say that he lied or told the truth. ahh ya thats true cause then preist could just cure them lol |
Apr 7, 2017 8:06 AM
#333
reiynii said: Doughkey said: I loved playing with Shinichi-kun and Grrr as mafia because they are so easy to frame and they generally give a nonchalant feel so people don't care as much as to stick up for you~Grr probably didn't put that much thought into it and just thought "lol it would be funny to claim :D" when was this lol? |
Apr 7, 2017 8:07 AM
#334
CorruptedPurity said: Shinichi-Kun said: Kit said: yurkin said: it is still possible it is a fake claimGrrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ grr is town: trying to throw off zombies so they avoid him and go for the real priest grr is scum (zombie): trying to get real priest to counter claim so that they know who to avoid grr is scum (cult): same as town reason but for townie points to not get lynched, instead of in towns best intrerest 1 and 3 are more liekly 2 is too risky even for grrr. Note: For 3, cultist would also want to know who the priest is so that they won't convert the priest. The zombie is a huge threat to the cult and thus they want the priest to be out there and alive to counter the zombies. Not just "for townie points", there is a reason for cultist to pull off this gambit too. If it was literally any other player, I will read deep into this and think hard about what the claim is for and how it should be treated, but since it's grrr, meh. Like Grrr's claim is like Schrodinger's cat, until he is lynched and flips, he is both the priest and not the priest in my eyes. welp idk why that didnt cross my mind but u are right about that point. And yep the problem is grrr fake claimed a very anti town role as a vanilla, while now hes claiming a very powerful town role. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:08 AM
#335
@reiynii why u still on doki? @rinto-kun why u still on doki also have u caught up yet? |
Apr 7, 2017 8:09 AM
#336
Shinichi-Kun said: I literally saw you asking this question as I was writing that so I didn't specify, lol. Kaitou's Favourites, and although we were mafia together, you were so easy to frame and didn't care much about that game that I think the reason you survived is the game having 2 billion players :9when was this lol? I also do believe I did a good job framing (or well, maybe helping frame) Grrr because he claimed Mason. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:09 AM
#337
PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:10 AM
#338
Absolutely. Controversy creates topics. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:10 AM
#339
reiynii said: Shinichi-Kun said: I literally saw you asking this question as I was writing that so I didn't specify, lol. Kaitou's Favourites, and although we were mafia together, you were so easy to frame and didn't care much about that game that I think the reason you survived is the game having 2 billion players :9when was this lol? I also do believe I did a good job framing (or well, maybe helping frame) Grrr because he claimed Mason. oh i was reallly distracted during that game, so that was no where near the best of my ability. So if you would ignore that game it would be nice :P |
Apr 7, 2017 8:11 AM
#340
I can't find anyone else right now. It seems weird how you were focusing on Kit the beginning of this page but maybe because her posts caught your attention? My town reads are CorruptedPurity (by the way, what a name) and Logic ! The rest are OK. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:12 AM
#341
It's funny because Controversy was actually my name for a little bit. |
Apr 7, 2017 8:13 AM
#342
Shinichi-Kun said: I can't, it's my favourite game yet. You were playing WoW the whole time lol (^ ^;)oh i was reallly distracted during that game, so that was no where near the best of my ability. So if you would ignore that game it would be nice :P |
Apr 7, 2017 8:13 AM
#343
reiynii said: I can't find anyone else right now. It seems weird how you were focusing on Kit the beginning of this page but maybe because her posts caught your attention? My town reads are CorruptedPurity (by the way, what a name) and Logic ! The rest are OK. everything till my 3rd or 4th most recent post was all catch up it was focused specifically on anyone |
Apr 7, 2017 8:14 AM
#344
should i be worried that this post has 2 quotes about you being qouted by you yourself XD. Edit-nvm i misread that first quote XD |
Apr 7, 2017 8:16 AM
#345
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. |
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Apr 7, 2017 8:21 AM
#346
Unvote Change Vote: Ruu Come back~ now that I think I shaped a good view on your play style I want to see more ^ ^)/ |
Apr 7, 2017 8:24 AM
#347
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. fair enough for once we are thinking alike lol reiynii said: Unvote Change Vote: Ruu Come back~ now that I think I shaped a good view on your play style I want to see more ^ ^)/ why didnt u just type change vote XD |
Apr 7, 2017 8:29 AM
#348
Shinichi-Kun said: It just seemed cooler, I guess!why didnt u just type change vote XD |
Apr 7, 2017 8:29 AM
#349
reiynii said: So who are the scum on the train then? @CorruptedPurity same questions.CorruptedPurity said: +1I also now want to lynch someone on Grrr's train cause scum should be lurking in there. He's too easy of a lynch fodder. |
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Apr 7, 2017 8:34 AM
#350
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. |
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