changelog said: I must respectfully disagree with your statement. By voluntarily modding a game, you are: 1. Downloading a copy of the game 2. Modding the game 3. Redistributing the game as a modded product This very definition of piracy is "the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work". With this in mind, of course game modders are "stealing" from developers. I am not denying that many people may prefer a modded version of a game, but developers are very open about how much harm piracy and modding does to them. Okay, I will not directly comment on fansubs as I don't know enough about them. I can say this though, if the game publishers do not allow for modding, the only legal way to mod is to distribute your patch without the game, which I doubt could ever work since I don't think a mod could be so popular. If I was to apply this to anime, it would mean that fansubs just distribute the subtitle files. Also, try inserting message number when you qoute, makes your post look a lot better. Or, maybe not. |
awesomenettleSep 29, 2018 1:51 AM
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changelog said: But that doesn't happen at all. No one wants to get a subtitle file because they would need to download the anime along with it, which would be a lot of hassle and take up a lot of storage. The only logistical way to do this is for fansubbers to upload their anime onto streaming websites, which is already happening. Okay, which means that fansubs/fansubbers consciously engage in illegal activity. To hell with fansubs, then. So, well, it could be assumed that anime from bootlegging sites is subbed by fansubbers? |
awesomenettleSep 29, 2018 2:03 AM
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
| There wasn't money to lose to fansubs because the animes with fansubs are ones only officially released in Japan. Beats me as to why CR, Funi, etc. refuse to get more kids shows which angers me. |
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DragonKnightGX said: There wasn't money to lose to fansubs because the animes with fansubs are ones only officially released in Japan. Beats me as to why CR, Funi, etc. refuse to get more kids shows which angers me. Okay. Now that this is update 9/28 - looks like we'll be waiting for API to be back into a functional state for quite some time. I mean, when do we get to update 28 if we're at update 9 right now? |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
azulakina said: DragonKnightGX said: There wasn't money to lose to fansubs because the animes with fansubs are ones only officially released in Japan. Beats me as to why CR, Funi, etc. refuse to get more kids shows which angers me. Okay. Now that this is update 9/28 - looks like we'll be waiting for API to be back into a functional state for quite some time. I mean, when do we get to update 28 if we're at update 9 right now? Was that an attempt to be funny or did you really misread that line? |
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Nope, more like a genuine question - if we're having update 9/28 which means we have 19 more updates before MAL is fully back up. The only item that's not fully back is API - I mean, I do not know whether MAL had a functional API before(as I have never used it) but it looks like what we'll be waiting for the next 19 updates. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
| Uh, 9/28 means September 28 and not 9 out of 28. |
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DragonKnightGX said: Uh, 9/28 means September 28 and not 9 out of 28. Oooh, cool. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
myanimelistllc said: I knew it. This place is becoming worse by the day. Removal of a feature is never a good thing. And using "to support the industry" as an excuse is a really scummy thing to do.As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. The only valid excuse is that the feature was a troll magnet, but then so are the reviews - you should take those away too then. ...Now excuse me while I go on a piracy binge to make up for my annoyance. |
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| They're catering to seasonal anime watchers that have never watched any kids shows. |
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| For what it's worth DragonKnightGX said: They're catering to seasonal anime watchers that have never watched any kids shows. I am not a hardcore anime fan but I do routinely watch anime for fun. I'm mostly just not used to watching anything. Nyaa said: I knew it. This place is becoming worse by the day. Removal of a feature is never a good thing. And using "to support the industry" as an excuse is a really scummy thing to do. The only valid excuse is that the feature was a troll magnet, but then so are the reviews - you should take those away too then. ...Now excuse me while I go on a piracy binge to make up for my annoyance. I'll make sure to pay for any anime I watch from now henceforth. Though, as of now, I can't afford to be paying for anything let alone anime. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
azulakina said: Nope, more like a genuine question - if we're having update 9/28 which means we have 19 more updates before MAL is fully back up. The only item that's not fully back is API - I mean, I do not know whether MAL had a functional API before(as I have never used it) but it looks like what we'll be waiting for the next 19 updates. My dude... |
| now that the fansubs section is gone I will stop downloading anime. |
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straykid said: now that the fansubs section is gone I will stop downloading anime. I know, right? This says it all right here. Really wish we could upvote posts; don't need a downvote system btw |
myanimelistllc said: It is its, and not it's with apostrophe.Dear Users, Thank you for using MyAnimeList. We have continued to solve potential concerns with the new ToU internally while continuing work on establishing it’s creation. We have also completed listing out all of the remaining development tasks, and begun development of the said tasks, with the development of login authentication being mostly completed. Thank you for your patience, understanding, and continued support of MyAnimeList. Once again, 部屋の象。 The list of objectives should disclose. 僕たちと個人的に話し合う。No business talk. astrogonza said: Unfortunate. The discussion from the company is off-point. Wanting continuing development of application, as well.When these issues will be solved, will the development of the official mobile app continue? It has been a long time since the last update and it's a shame, in my opinion, since it was going in the right direction |
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That's not exactly the point. The main idea is just to make a point to support the anime industry not to make a silly resolution to stay away from bootleg and torrent sites. Also, for those who care, my English is not exactly broken, it's more or less a way of being cool. |
awesomenettleSep 30, 2018 11:10 PM
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
azulakina said: That's not exactly the point. The main idea is just to make a point to support the anime industry not to make a silly resolution to stay away from bootleg and torrent sites. What do you even mean? |
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It's more or less like an open relationship where you can cheat or not. No-one is "forcing" you to do something. DeadlyQueen77 said: YES! YES! YES! Yesh, babe. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
Lunilah said: What is so bad about fansubs? So, if a show is licensed and people watch it fansubbed instead of paying to watch it with official subs or a dub, the company won't get any money, nor will the original creators or animators. However, I totally think fansubs should be fine for shows that are unlicensed or have shaudy official subs. Sadly, the law tends to have general rules, not specific ones. |
Louis-the-Otaku said: However, I totally think fansubs should be fine for shows that are unlicensed or have shaudy official subs. Finally, someone who understands. |
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Louis-the-Otaku said: So, if a show is licensed and people watch it fansubbed instead of paying to watch it with official subs or a dub, the company won't get any money, nor will the original creators or animators. What about a case where I even have a CR or Hulu or other subscription that allows me to watch certain shows legitimately but choose to go the bootleg way? Fansubs are just there, they'll probably remain there, we're not here to enforce copyright laws, so well, to some extent - to hell with the whole issue *shrug* |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
| Fansubs list was such an useful feature for me to choose which group to go with while watching old animes. Sad to know it's gone. Though can DeNA atleast provide the db table for fansubs votes and comments. |
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orangetangerines said: Real otaku support fansubs. I wouldn't be able to watch the majority of what I like without them. Adios, mal.... 100%. |
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orangetangerines said: Real otaku support fansubs. I wouldn't be able to watch the majority of what I like without them. Adios, mal.... Great idea. In theory. Here is the problem though. We live in a world where people literally can make 100% original content online, but if even a tiny 2 second long fragment contains even an excerpt of something, a company will find it and issue a DMCA and get it censored. It is even possible now to submit false DMCA's and get things censored. Again I refer back to the situation on youtube as a perfect example of how absolutely bad things have become. I am all for supporting fansubs but one has to be realistic and this site has been very high profile the past few years, that is the reason it was targeted that is the reason for all of this. If you want the site to stay around then you have to make some choices. Only way to truly fight the censor is decentralized services, be them social medias, streaming/torrent services (already decentralized), or various fan based websites for different things such as this. We have a long long way to go to achieve fully decentralized software with regard to how websites and web services are hosted, barring that the next best thing is caution, and high profile websites often have to bend in order to not break. |
| Or maybe we just have someone obsessed with fansubs, translations e.t.c and now they're trolling the whole place, repeating themselves all over almost to the extent that it's almost embarrassing. Please get some help as soon as possible. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
azulakina said: Or maybe we just have someone obsessed with fansubs, translations e.t.c and now they're trolling the whole place, repeating themselves all over almost to the extent that it's almost embarrassing. Please get some help as soon as possible. Yet again I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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I have two projects to "choose" from to work on for the next several years. One is a VPN project the other is the API project. Both of them are equally interesting but I'm yet to meet a nerd in among VPN people but I've met at least 2 nerds on MAL. So, well, it looks like I didn't choose yet.... this is my obsession. It's what I think about all day. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
orangetangerines said: Real otaku support fansubs. I wouldn't be able to watch the majority of what I like without them. Adios, mal.... No, im pretty god damn sure that real otaku prefer Japanese TV and BDs. |
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Swagernator said: orangetangerines said: Real otaku support fansubs. I wouldn't be able to watch the majority of what I like without them. Adios, mal.... No, im pretty god damn sure that real otaku prefer Japanese TV and BDs. Yeah, true that. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
azulakina said: Or maybe we just have someone obsessed with fansubs, translations e.t.c and now they're trolling the whole place, repeating themselves all over almost to the extent that it's almost embarrassing. Please get some help as soon as possible. Funny how you've just explained yourself. |
azulakina said: No idea.Or maybe we just have someone obsessed with fansubs, translations e.t.c and now they're trolling the whole place, repeating themselves all over almost to the extent that it's almost embarrassing. Please get some help as soon as possible. |
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azulakina said: I'm glad that you're being honest with yourself.Or maybe we just have someone obsessed with fansubs, translations e.t.c and now they're trolling the whole place, repeating themselves all over almost to the extent that it's almost embarrassing. Please get some help as soon as possible. Takes a lot of courage. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
orangetangerines said: rather stupid to put fansubs out of the question entirely because that would automatically eliminate you from watching plenty of good series that no western licensing company would ever pick up, especially old ones that you have no chance of finding physical media of. I like the way you think, my man. 100% respect for you |
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| When do we get an update on API. I've been waiting for the last 3 - 4 months, now. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
LvsDark said: Hell yeah, Thanks for the hard work. <3 Yeeeeeaaaaaaah |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
myanimelistllc said: Here, I fixed it for you!As part of ongoing efforts to support (((DeNA and (((Crunchyroll))) ))), the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed (Piracy and unofficial streaming are theft, goyim!). |
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| We want API more and we can even fix it for ourselves. Some of us are not well up enough to be joining MAL supporter program, we don't exactly care about fansubs but we can fix API for ourselves |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
| I hope crunchyroll washed before ramming their dick down your throat. Fucking terrible, MAL. |
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| What about your API? Is it done? I've temporarily transferred my list to Kitsu because I use Taiga. I will probably transfer it here again once the API is fixed. EDIT: I found out that you can connect your accounts... |
spacecrow_Oct 5, 2018 10:00 AM
| LOL |
| More people should cancel their MAL supporter role to get DeNA to wake up. (why people pay for a free service is beyond me, they already get ur ad revenue.) |
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