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Nov 29, 2016 2:23 PM

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There is no reason fro his lives to be on his skin.

And Nine Lives, even if it is called that, is an 100 combo attack yet Shirou has to specifically use 9, delivering 9 different fatal wounds. And Herc falls only after then ninth. I wont call it Battle Continuation since he didnt attack after getting Caliburned, and missing an eighth of his body is FAR from just a decisive fatal wound or getting Caliburned.

So 12-9=3 lives from Alter.

God Hand is the armor that grants Herc the three abilities of immunity, resurrection and post-resurrection immunity AKA his skin. A Noble Phantasm is literally a physical crystallization of a legend. His skin is that physical crystallization that grants him these abilities. If he has God Hand, he has its abilities. If he doesn't, he has none.

Shirou couldn't have possibly took nine lives off of Herc with NLBW because it's simply not enough. A strike to to the upper arm or the thighs, as three of the nine strikes, are hardly fatal for a Servant for them to take a life each, especially when you consider that Servants die when they're hit in their spiritual core. Hitting multiple parts of the body can't kill a Servant untill it hits the core, and that's considered a single life.. NLBW was able to kill Herc only once, which is all the lives Herc had without God Hand.

Herc was swallowed alive. He wasn't dead when the Shadow took him in. Normal Herc is never truly dead until his lives run out.
What happened is that he was swallowed alive while he was fighting Alter and got stripped off God Hand immediately before fully regenerating, leaving Alter's scar on his chest.

Which means that the number of lives Alter took off with Excalibur is unknown, because once the shadow stripped Heracles of God Hand, his lives was automatically reduced to one.
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Which means that the number of lives Alter took off with Excalibur is unknown, because once the shadow stripped Heracles of God Hand, his lives was automatically reduced to one.

Yes. The one thing we can be sure of in that fight is that she just took some lives for sure, even if she couldn't take all of them.
Nov 29, 2016 2:31 PM

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Also we spent a whole page talking about non-Extella stuff lol.
Nov 29, 2016 2:47 PM

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Well, i'd say that derailing a Fate thread into off-topic Nasuverse discussions can still be considered on-topic. It wouldn't be a Fate thread if we didn't do this at least once lol
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"Nero was rumored to have had captured Christians dipped in oil and set on fire in his garden at night as a source of light."

I'd like to see Nasu try using moe and ahoges to retcon this shit into something cute.
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Mickdrew said:
"Nero was rumored to have had captured Christians dipped in oil and set on fire in his garden at night as a source of light."

I'd like to see Nasu try using moe and ahoges to retcon this shit into something cute.

...damn.

Well, all of this was addressed in EXTRA after she revealed her identity.

As far as Nasuverse's Nero is concerned, it seems like she was a victim of revisionist history.
The reason for that being that she originally wasn't meant to be an emperor, but due to her mother's scheming going as far as to assassinate some of the heirs and the emperor himself to secure Nero's shot to rule, the senate hated the absolute shit out of her.

What made matters worse is that she was tyrannical herself, even if she held no I'll feelings or intentions towards those who were on the receiving end. And as if that wasn't enough, her mother's intentions for helping her were far from being the obsessive parental love royalty was known for, but to use Nero as her tool and be the actual ruler of Rome, all while hiding behind the title of the "Emperor's Mother".
Nero tried to deal with her mother while attempting several times to reform the corrupted senate, but something would always go wrong. Once she decided she had enough of her mother hindering her rule and conspiring and inciting rebilions against her, she had an assassin to go and kill her mother, only to fail publicly and reveal that he was hired by her.

After her death, the senate worked hard to stain her image to justify their opposition to her rule. One of the most famous instances of that, is that Nero burned Rome because "she wanted to rebuild Rome to be more to her liking and the good and brave senate opposed the idea to save the finances, so she bypassed them by burning the city and have the excuse to rebuild it however she wants".
However, Nero didn't actually cause "The Great Fire of Rome", she's, in fact, the biggest reason it wasn't ten times worse that it ended up being. After she rebuilt Rome, exactly like it were before the disaster, she felt that the disaster was grave to the masses' morale, so she had Domus Aurea built to entertain them and make them forget about the fire... by performing to them herself.
Nero was really popular amongst her people because of how good she handled Rome's economicL disaster after her father's death and the natural disaster later while she was still a teenager, but, ultimately, because of her tyrannical rule, weird personality and the constant alteration of history by the aristocratic senate, Nero ended up with such a reputation.

Nero and Jeanne's interactions in GO reflect Jeanne's knowledge of what Nero actually did and didn't do in her life from the Throne.

Edit: I wrote that in a little under three hours. Well, that's what happens when you try writing a text wall during a slightly busy work day.
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I love her so much. Sing your out of tune beautiful serenade for me empress!
Dec 7, 2016 3:45 PM

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That my friend is Logres Goddess of Ancient (mobage) x Fate/Extella (Collaboration event). I don't care about the game but just seeing her beautifully articulated by Shaft makes me super genki.
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astroprogs said:
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Which means that the number of lives Alter took off with Excalibur is unknown, because once the shadow stripped Heracles of God Hand, his lives was automatically reduced to one.

Yes. The one thing we can be sure of in that fight is that she just took some lives for sure, even if she couldn't take all of them.


She didn't even said the name of her NP, I'm not sure we can count that as Excalibur's true power, she was clearly not trying to kill him.
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I love her so much. Sing your out of tune beautiful serenade for me empress!
I love it when characters place their hands on their boobs like that, especially when they're stacked.
Dec 8, 2016 12:07 AM

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Yes. The one thing we can be sure of in that fight is that she just took some lives for sure, even if she couldn't take all of them.


She didn't even said the name of her NP, I'm not sure we can count that as Excalibur's true power, she was clearly not trying to kill him.

Especially in Excalibur's case, you HAVE to call its name to even activate it, and we know she did activate it because Shirou identifies it as a NP.We just dont here it, probably because of the distance.

It is true that she wasnt trying to fully kill him tho, IF she can do that with Exclibur.
Dec 8, 2016 12:11 AM

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You don't have to hear the name to identify it as a NP. It's obvious that it's a NP since a servant is wielding it. Hearing the name does help you identify the owner though.
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You don't have to hear the name to identify it as a NP. It's obvious that it's a NP since a servant is wielding it. Hearing the name does help you identify the owner though.

No I mean, Shirou talks about it as if he knows it is Excalibur.And he should know because of UBW.

I cant trust Shirou when he says "I got this" or when he wanks Saber, but I can trust his passion about swords.
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New DLC


EMIYA with dad's clothes.
Fabulous/Yakuza Li
Waiter Gawain
Cu with ProtoCu armor.
Karna with pizza restaurant clothes?
Armored LuBu.
Texas? Iskandar.
UBW casual Gil.
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ssjokg said:
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She didn't even said the name of her NP, I'm not sure we can count that as Excalibur's true power, she was clearly not trying to kill him.

Especially in Excalibur's case, you HAVE to call its name to even activate it, and we know she did activate it because Shirou identifies it as a NP.We just dont here it, probably because of the distance.

It is true that she wasnt trying to fully kill him tho, IF she can do that with Exclibur.


That's not the case, she used a bit of Excalibur's power against Herk in the UBW anime and she didn't call it's name. It's unthinkable that she couldn't at least release a bit of the sword power if she wants to do it.
Dec 17, 2016 9:07 AM

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Fate/EXTRA NG+ Tamamo run (Parts 0 and 1)

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Fate/EXTRA NG+ Tamamo run (Parts 2)

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Pretty sure Arc isnt a secret boss.

Oops, yeah, you're right. Seeing how i never went with Rani's route i didn't know that.

Well, in the light of this information, i think i'll go with Rani and finish all of Taiga's quests and get both Arc's and Shiki's fights for this run.
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Woah, @astroprogs this is hilarious xDDD

You're actually playing the exact same thing I am rn (HakunonxTamamo )
:o
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I marathoned Fate Extra last year on my PSVita. Went Nero->Archer->Tamamo in that order, Hakunon for all three. Great experience with Tamamo since NG+ remembers enemy patterns. Also had fun dumping all the points to make Magic EX rank.
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Woah, @astroprogs this is hilarious xDDD

You're actually playing the exact same thing I am rn (HakunonxTamamo )
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Thanks :D
Some technical issues aside, that was really fun for me.

Oh? How far are you in ATM?

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I marathoned Fate Extra last year on my PSVita. Went Nero->Archer->Tamamo in that order, Hakunon for all three. Great experience with Tamamo since NG+ remembers enemy patterns. Also had fun dumping all the points to make Magic EX rank.

Hakunon is really the best choice IMO. The subtle characteristics Nasu gave to her makes her runs a bit more interesting and funny.

Nice, OK I'll do that. Right now I don't feel Caster's shortcomings due to the visible patterns and my NG+ FW, but I'm sure this won't be the case in the actual Servant fights.
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Fate/EXTRA NG+ Tamamo run (Part 3)

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Interesting, Yeah, I've always known about the Nasu prose from the guys at BL. Not only is it unique in how conveys a meaning, it always draws some kind of reference or another.
As EXTRA's localization proved, it's a pain for any localization team who isn't both extremely versed in the language (heck, even some natives have problems sometimes with it) AND the Nasuverse mythos.
Dec 28, 2016 2:28 PM

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Interesting, Yeah, I've always known about the Nasu prose from the guys at BL. Not only is it unique in how conveys a meaning, it always draws some kind of reference or another.
As EXTRA's localization proved, it's a pain for any localization team who isn't both extremely versed in the language (heck, even some natives have problems sometimes with it) AND the Nasuverse mythos.


Neat, just saw a video on this from CensoredGaming and read the blog. It's really exciting and a big relief to know how much work and faithfulness they're putting into the translation. January is going to be soo good.
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The last part is what matters the most.



Damnit Astro
Jan 12, 2017 3:38 PM

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:p

EDIT: Now that i had some time to watch it, they did it, the mad men. They did Extella's Complete Material book.
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MArvelous:
"For those that have already ordered, I’m happy to confirm that all orders outside of EU territories were shipped on the 11th January right from our office, with EU orders being shipped out today, and finally UK orders to be shipped out on the 18th January - orders placed after these rolling dates are being shipped in our next available shipment by yours truly and I hope everyone enjoys adding Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star to their own personal collections"


PLEASE fuck up and give it to me earlier.

Edit:Between the NP version and the MC version of the box, the MC box is clearly better.
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MArvelous:
"For those that have already ordered, I’m happy to confirm that all orders outside of EU territories were shipped on the 11th January right from our office, with EU orders being shipped out today, and finally UK orders to be shipped out on the 18th January - orders placed after these rolling dates are being shipped in our next available shipment by yours truly and I hope everyone enjoys adding Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star to their own personal collections"


PLEASE fuck up and give it to me earlier.

Edit:Between the NP version and the MC version of the box, the MC box is clearly better.
Shipped?!?
/running like no tomorrow toward my mail box
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SO who here ordered the EU version?

Did you get a tracking number?
Jan 16, 2017 9:41 AM

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ssjokg said:
SO who here ordered the EU version?

Did you get a tracking number?

Got it.
It is somewhere in France right now. But i will not be able to play till week-end.
Need to do something on ff14 (update tmr)
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SO who here ordered the EU version?

Did you get a tracking number?

Got it.
It is somewhere in France right now. But i will not be able to play till week-end.
Need to do something on ff14 (update tmr)
Marvelous says it mine was shipped but I didnt get any number.
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Got it.
It is somewhere in France right now. But i will not be able to play till week-end.
Need to do something on ff14 (update tmr)
Marvelous says it mine was shipped but I didnt get any number.

6h ago i received à mail from marvelous, then Another from the french transporter (wndirect)
May be différents depending on country and transporters
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kei78 said:
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Marvelous says it mine was shipped but I didnt get any number.

6h ago i received à mail from marvelous, then Another from the french transporter (wndirect)
May be différents depending on country and transporters
So you didnt use Royal Mail(Tracked & Signed (NO P.O. BOX)) that was on the site?I didnt have any other option.

I got the email from marvelous 4 hours ago.So I guess I will just wait.
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6h ago i received à mail from marvelous, then Another from the french transporter (wndirect)
May be différents depending on country and transporters
So you didnt use Royal Mail(Tracked & Signed (NO P.O. BOX)) that was on the site?I didnt have any other option.

I got the email from marvelous 4 hours ago.So I guess I will just wait.

i only got 1 option but it was dpd
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Look who decided to show up in the Extella artbook


For those of you who haven't managed to spoil yourself on Extella's story and have the NP edition, I would recommend finishing the story before opening the Extra Materials book. It spoils pretty much everything.

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Couldn't wait for the physical copy to arrive so I bought a digital copy as well. Holy FUCK have I miss my fabulous waifu emperor. Gonna enjoy this game nice and slow. UMMPHHRRFF that freaking lingerie dlc.
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Still waiting for Marvelous support to help me with my tracking info....

[cries in spanish]
Jan 18, 2017 11:28 AM

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game received but pissed of bc in interior of the package is damage... fucking stagiaire doing packaging...
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kei78 said:
game received but pissed of bc in interior of the package is damage... fucking stagiaire doing packaging...

Oh Jesus, please don't. Those are my worse nightmares about receiving packages... And yes I do complain to the company about it. Very passionately and spitefully til they fire the one responsible. One less jackass doing this job the better. (til they replace him or her with another and the cycle repeats itself lol)

Oh and I only had 2 hours sleep. Got up early for Nintendo's Fire Emblem direct. Took some protein shake and caffine supplements for work (12 hour shift) in 2 hours. Stayed up all night with my Emperor of Roses.

Worth it.
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btw, when are the dlc plan for europe?
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btw, when are the dlc plan for europe?
First DLC pack is out I think.

And my package's ET ais Mon 23......well ok then....
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btw, when are the dlc plan for europe?
First DLC pack is out I think.

And my package's ET ais Mon 23......well ok then....
no dlc in playstation store >_<
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