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May 21, 7:15 PM
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This may not be a BONES anime, but this might be the template for the majority of BONES anime. A big fat non ending that is still ends up being better than the feel good drivel most anime would have chosen for a conclusion.

I'm still gonna give this anime a 9/10 because it was on a solid run for a long time, and other than a handful of episodes, it was boring at worst and phenomenal at best. Sometimes it was confusing as a baseline.

I guess in the end, Star Driver sorta had a better ending, but they both score a 9/10 for me. Interestingly enough, the writer for this, Star Driver, and Captain Earth also has been doing the scriptwork for the last couple seasons of Bungou Stray Dogs. That guy is doing the lord's work by bringing these weighty themes to semi fruition all over the anime landscape.

I definitely see why this anime is divisive now, even why it's non ending could be somewhat comparable to NGE. I hear the movie is an alternate retelling of the story. I guess I need to add that to my plan to watch list. I'm a sucker for anime movies that are actually worth watching.

G-Witch is what gave me the push I needed to finally give this anime a shot. While as a whole, this anime was definitely better, G-Witch definitely had higher highs across the two seasons. And a proper happy ending for a lesbian couple that made Sunrise point out how homophobia isn't going anywhere in anime.

I also give this anime a higher score than Sailor Moon S, even tho that anime also had much higher highs, more impressive music, and phenomenal animation from time to time. Utena is definitely cooler than Usagi tho.

I don't think I'm giving this anime a rewatch anytime soon. But after the story finally got going, I really enjoyed my time here. I've got a couple more high level anime from the 90s and early 00s in my plan to watch. Utena has set a bar. Which anime is great enough to clear it?
May 23, 2:01 PM

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I'm not very fond of open endings so at first I was frustrated, but reading all the interpretations made me reflect on that and realize that, well, this ending being so different from what I expected doesn't mean it's bad. Funnily enough, it also made me realize that I actually got most of the symbolisms correctly, and the only thing that was truly bothering me was the lack of a true closure for Utena's character which I guess is actually the point ? After all, she's always stood out to me as a subversion of the classic protagonist with a savior complex as she never truly understood what was going on, constantly ignored warnings from other characters but also from the very situation, kept ignoring all the times characters were calling her out even when they were right for doing so, and overall just came off for a long time as a character who was simply being used as a tool without realizing it while the rest of the cast was getting more and more developed. Her ending just showcases it : she tried to be a prince without understanding what it truly meant, forcing herself into a role she never understood, thinking she had to be a certain way for specific reasons without being able to move on the way the other characters did... And at the end of the day, she failed because of that, but this doesn't mean this is truly the end for her : simply, maybe this whole time, she needed to be "saved" as well and now she can let Anthy "save" her. Plus, que didn't even truly fail : simply, instead of literally saving Anthy, her actions guided her into deciding to stand up for herself and become her own person. That's a very unexpected way of handling a main character but it's actually pretty fascinating.

As for the rest, it was a great show ! I didn't find any arc to be bad and I don't think I disliked any episode, even if I initially didn't like the Nanami episodes all that much her character grew so much on me I found myself thinking back on them a lot more fondly.
And that's true for the rest of the cast as well, most of them had such a great development ! It was awesome to see them try, fail, and ultimately achieve to move on from their trauma, from those who hurt them, from the situation that was harming them, and ultimately from their past selves that were afraid of stepping out of the coffin. Akio was also a great antagonist, very complex and intriguing to the point I can't say I have fully understood his character, but that's part of why I'll most likely do a rewatch someday, I really want to understand everything I need to understand about his character.

On top of that, the art direction was great and there were a lot of ideas I just loved, like the shadow figures or of course the "Stairs/Elevator" sequences.

Overall it really was a great show that really knew how to use symbolisms and subvert expectations in a way that makes sense for the story and its themes, I can't say I'll do a rewatch right-away because that's still 39 episodes which is a lot but I'm really planning to in order to understand everything.
After a bit of thinking, I feel like it'd be unfair to give it less than a 10/10, it was pretty amazing.
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ur kidding me. (¬_¬;)
Oct 2, 9:37 AM
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old animes used to get away with so much bullsh-t, incoherent, convoluted, pretentious and unnecessarily dragged out with maybe 15 episodes of actual content and a cr-pton of repetition

also the obsolete art with characters looking like beansprouts... don't even get me started

imagine having to sit thru 29 episodes before something starts to get remotely watchable. nowadays if Episode 1 isn't good, we drop

5/10 because Episodes 29 and 33 were actually good
GavrocheN7Oct 2, 9:41 AM
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It’s really good. I will now spend more time thinking about what it all meant than what it took me to watch the entire series

Feeling a strong 7/10
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