Sword Art Online (light novel)
Do you think Kirito & Asuna make nyan nyan?
NeverSleep said: Look, how I said in my first post in this thread but most people apparently ignored that part since they offended me sayin' I think Asuna is mai waifu... man, that was the saddest part... But I am not saying they didn't do it at any given moment, or that they didn't have an intimate moment. I just find it dumb they doing stuff that involves voxel generated genitals and penetration inside the game. They can get into hardcore SM play, scat or whatever other fetish you can name after they get out, I don't care. The most funny aspect of this discussion: People forget that characters are inside imperfect MMO Virtual reality game that was published in Japan and was heavily advertised in media. There was no age limitation, because underage people are playing this game - even as young as 13 years old. Even if there is option to take of underwear, there would be nothing more to be done - only mosaic. Whereas the ability to conceal death trap in games code is somewhat believable, the implementation of underage sex in mainstream game is not. Just putting it out there Edit: And Asuna and Kirito can have sex in "real" life as much as they want, I have just pointed out the utter lack of logic in episode 10. |
BuliTMSep 12, 2012 7:03 AM
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NeverSleep said: It was just too... dumb, I had to stop. I knew that was going to happen at the beginning of the scene, but maybe at least once, FOR ONCE, it would be the police who would turn out the apartment. But noooooooooooo, just a Neo wannabe in black clothes again. Who's that Neo wanna-be? I think I can guess the answer. But I really really want to know. :-D |
| How could they have sex when they are both in a coma? |
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Marius2005 said: How could they have sex when they are both in a coma? How could they level up if they're both in a coma? |
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BuliTM said: I mentioned the same thing a few posts back. They just don't care. Eternia said: Who's that Neo wanna-be? I think I can guess the answer. But I really really want to know. :-D |
| How much better would this show have been if Asuna was Katniss? |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
NeverSleep said: BuliTM said: I mentioned the same thing a few posts back. They just don't care. Eternia said: Who's that Neo wanna-be? I think I can guess the answer. But I really really want to know. :-D I'm pretty sure it is stated that it was placed as a feature and it went under the radar. If you are expecting logic in an anime/LN based in the future: |
| Wow, you guys made a thread about this....lol, i diidnt really care since ep 10 was the funniest episode of the series. Same with ch 16 but im gonna drop this around ep 13....nah i might not even add it in my list, leaves a bad taste there. Anyway, time for school. |
IciBurnSep 12, 2012 10:35 AM
ZBurn said: nah i might not even add it in my list, leaves a bad taste there. You lick your screen, amirite? |
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ZBurn said: Wow, you guys made a thread about this....lol, i diidnt really care since ep 10 was the funniest episode of the series. Same with ch 16 but im gonna drop this around ep 13....nah i might not even add it in my list, leaves a bad taste there. Anyway, time for school. At least get the soundtrack as a parting gift! |
Dessiato said: I'm pretty sure it is stated that it was placed as a feature and it went under the radar. If you are expecting logic in an anime/LN based in the future: It is called suspension of disbelief. I can forgive some amount of plot holes and lapses in logic, which are present in SAO (no matter if novel/anime). However SAO is anime that uses MMO as its theme. Consequently I expect it to keep to rules that govern game industry, at least to some degree. Yet you expect me to believe that this game went through beta tests without anyone finding out erotic option? Those kids would start abusing this the moment they found it and people would get wind of it. Or simply - do you find erotic underage stuff in your mainstream games? At least chapter 16 in LN did not show us anything, as Asuna was only in underwear (so we did not know if you can really do anything). Oh, and chapter 16.5 is a simple fanservice and that does not mean just eroticism. Author satisfied his fanbase by giving them AsunexKirito moment. Even if it would have been non-erotic, it still would be giving fans a service. But... I guess people just love idea of cyber sex with use of mosaic. Maybe it is a new kink. |
BuliTMSep 12, 2012 12:20 PM
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BuliTM said: Dessiato said: I'm pretty sure it is stated that it was placed as a feature and it went under the radar. If you are expecting logic in an anime/LN based in the future: It is called suspension of disbelief. I can forgive some amount of plot holes and lapses in logic, which are present in SAO (no matter if novel/anime). However SAO is anime that uses MMO as its theme. Consequently I expect it to keep to rules that govern game industry, at least to some degree. Yet you expect me to believe that this game went through beta tests without anyone finding out erotic option? Those kids would start abusing this the moment they found it and people would get wind of it. Or simply - do you find erotic underage stuff in your mainstream games? At least chapter 16 in LN did not show us anything, as Asuna was only in underwear (so we did not know if you can really do anything). Oh, and chapter 16.5 is a simple fanservice and that does not mean just eroticism. Author satisfied his fanbase by giving them AsunexKirito moment. Even if it would have been non-erotic, it still would be giving fans a service. I dont really care if that scene actually happened in the novel or anime but saying that it cant happen because SAO is supposed to follow the rules of the game industry when the creator of the game removed the log out button and planned to trap 10000 players and all of that simply because he wanted to create that a new reality, and no one ever noticed before the game started is, if a nothing else, stupid. Underage or not anyone can kill,steal for real in this game but nudity or sex would be a problem? Even their parents wouldnt care about that when their kids are trapped somewhere and possibly dying. The beta testers' knowledge was meaningless for the most part when the death game started as you Know. Again, I am not saying that ch 16.5 is truly canon ,but I cant believe that you are saying,something like this cant happen because SAO follows the rules,when it obviously doesnt. |
ssjokgSep 12, 2012 12:38 PM
| Including a bit o code that removes log out button and sets NerveGear to deathtrap_mode is believeable, as it could easily slip while beta testing. On the other hand someone on the development team/ in publisher's company would get suspicious if some dude created graphics and animations for genitals and entire routine to simulate feeling of having sex in PG-13 game. Simply, as I said, it is like giving World of Warcraft feature that allows every kid them to watch porn and have cyber sex. And, strangely, nobody cares. P.S.: If maturity was intended feature than we would have blood at very least. And normal corpses. |
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| Two years worth of semen made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Asuna. |
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Dessiato said: Lolwut? This is a disscussion? She wasn't wearing god damn clothes. We could discuss, if the avatars in this MMORP-game really have virtual dicks. |
Perplex said: Dessiato said: Lolwut? This is a disscussion? She wasn't wearing god damn clothes. We could discuss, if the avatars in this game really have virtual dicks. You know, it would feel really weird for a man to lose his pride every time he logs into the game. You know, it would feel really weird for a man to lose his best friend every time he logs into the game. You know, it would feel really weird for a man to lose his dragon every time he logs into the game. You know, it would feel really weird for a man to lose his greatsword every time he logs into the game. |
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Tsundereppoi said: Perplex said: Dessiato said: Lolwut? This is a disscussion? She wasn't wearing god damn clothes. We could discuss, if the avatars in this game really have virtual dicks. You know, it would feel really weird for a man to lose his pride every time he logs into the game. Go into the woods and fap because you need to relax after 4 hours of non stop grinding. You won't find that feature in the games manual. |
Perplex said: Tsundereppoi said: Perplex said: Dessiato said: Lolwut? This is a disscussion? She wasn't wearing god damn clothes. We could discuss, if the avatars in this game really have virtual dicks. You know, it would feel really weird for a man to lose his pride every time he logs into the game. Go into the woods and fap because you need to relax after 4 hours of non stop grinding. You won't find that feature in the games manual. Why do something that absurd when the game has no impregnation system? lolfacepalmlol |
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| I think yes. Just think about this: Asuna was of the two that really wants it. So, she get off her clothes! |
bippo said: nyan nyan Is that an official definition? |
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| Plot hole #2 (also mentioned in my previous post) Assuming the code was there the whole time... why wasn't it widely known after two years of gaming in a world full of teenagers and young people? And Kirito not knowing about it, Kirito isn't a "normal player", he's the definition of hardcore, everyone in the frontlines probably have explored the menu the best they could to customize their HUDs for optimization and etc... he also have a info broker as one of his friends. Tsundereppoi said: Why do something that absurd when the game has no impregnation system? lolfacepalmlol Anti-rape system... |
NeverSleep said: Plot hole #2 (also mentioned in my previous post) Assuming the code was there the whole time... why wasn't it widely known after two years of gaming in a world full of teenagers and young people? And Kirito not knowing about it, Kirito isn't a "normal player", he's the definition of hardcore, everyone in the frontlines probably have explored the menu the best they could to customize their HUDs for optimization and etc... he also have a info broker as one of his friends. Tsundereppoi said: Why do something that absurd when the game has no impregnation system? lolfacepalmlol Can't remember exactly, but Asuna explained in 16.5 that the developers implemented the ethics code for..sex services I think. Kinda like prostitutes, but virtual? :o So genitals were put onto players avatars. And I think a reason to not have an impregnation system would be just that, you wouldn't have to worry about getting pregnant..or STDs. |
| It would be stupid to think they didn't. Being dressed before the other waking up is a pretty normal thing. I tend not to do it though, cause I like chicks wearing only my shirt and sipping coffee at the breakfast nook. With the art style and everything, it seems to me that Inaba Himeko and Kiriyama Yui had sex... Which is, pretty much, a nuclear bomb of kawaii sex. And I'm pretty ok with it, even though it's usually upsetting since most main characters are *******. It was cute how she reacted to him saying "I just wanted to sleep with you", making her ashamed for the suggestion. |
| The chip in my mind, it summons me. I gave my life to your machines. |
baril said: That detail is mentioned in 16.5, which brings the issue full circle again about 16.5 and all the contents of this thread.It was not probably emphasized in the anime but it was clearly told in the LN, (or in the GGO arc?). During the 1 month beta test, male players would feel psychological problems because of missing their 'symbols of manhood'. Knowing this during the start of SAO, Kayaba forced the players to return to their original face and gender during the 1st day itself. Making SAO It's a never ending cycle. |
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| No, the details about the genitals wasn't explained outside 16.5. Also, the question is why the sex option for prostitutes is implemented in SAO, a MMO for all ages,it's not inherent to the nerve gear because that would be saying that every single application would have this option. Having a 18+ program that emulates sex for the Nerve Gear probably is possible and was probably out there, assuming that SAO was the only possibility of software for the new hardware is limiting this too much. |
Dessiato said: NeverSleep said: No, the details about the genitals wasn't explained outside 16.5. Also, the question is why the sex option for prostitutes is implemented in SAO, a MMO for all ages,it's not inherent to the nerve gear because that would be saying that every single application would have this option. Having a 18+ program that emulates sex for the Nerve Gear probably is possible and was probably out there, assuming that SAO was the only possibility of software for the new hardware is limiting this too much. Yes it was explained actually.... Finding it will be a pain in the ass, but I will do some quick ctrl +f's for it. Found it. To counteract the "no genitals were mentioned argument" Sex is defined by the sexual organs one has. Volume and chapter. If you say Volume 1 - 16.5 you lose. iirc this quote is from there. At least read other people arguments entirely before pointing stuff out. |
| If we are looking at that 16.5 is non-canon and should have no part to the adaptation, then I can see why there was a guy dressed as a girl in episode 1. If it was(canon), then clearly that is a plot-hole for anyone to see. |
| Yeah, I was really wrong in this one. No excuses. |
| Sex organs. Check. Nude mode. Check. Asuna's boldness (ep10 and preview). Check. Massive hints here and there. Check. Pointless debate in the face of fact. Check. |
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Tsundereppoi said: Sex organs. Check. Nude mode. Check. Asuna's boldness (ep10 and preview). Check. Massive hints here and there. Check. Pointless debate in the face of fact. Check. We never see any sex organs. Check. Censorship in Japan. Check. Asuna's just a tsundere. Check. Improbability of underage sex in mainstream game. Check. Anime is just trolling in order to increase sales. Check. P.S.: Debates are fun. |
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BuliTM said: Tsundereppoi said: Sex organs. Check. Nude mode. Check. Asuna's boldness (ep10 and preview). Check. Massive hints here and there. Check. Pointless debate in the face of fact. Check. We never see any sex organs. Check. Censorship in Japan.Check. Asuna's just a tsundere. Check. Improbability of underage sex in mainstream game. Check. Anime is just trolling in order to increase sales. Check. P.S.: Debates are fun. We never see any sex organs. Check. Censorship in Japan.Check.But it has nothing to do with Kayaba's game Asuna's just a tsundere. CheckShe was ready to do it why else would she start taking off her clothes?And many people are embarrassed in that kind of situations.She is a tsundere but it has noting to do with this part of the story. Improbability of underage sex in mainstream game. Check.Mainstream games=Death games? Anime is just trolling in order to increase sales. CheckThe same scene was also in the novel so what trolling? <Ethic Code off> was in chapter 16 not 16.5 .Check. LN part: Did they do it?Debatable. Is sex possible in SAO?Yes. |
ssjokgSep 15, 2012 4:19 PM
BuliTM said: We never see any sex organs. Check. People normally don't show off their sex organs to everyone they see. Therefore everyone on the street must be an impotent. |
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ssjokg said: Game was developed in Japan and it had had to adhere to their law. And i do not believe sex simulator is such an easy function to hide. Asuna was yet to take of her underwear. She was yet to show anything special, but simply loves to sleep naked. Or you are right. SAO was developed in order to appeal to everyone and very well advertised game just like WoW gets in U.S.A. And because children can play it (Silica was 13 years old, if i remember correctly) than such a game would never get truly adult features. it does not even have blood. The scenario in chapter 16 left in perfectly ambiguous - they could do it, but we are never hinted that they did. We do not know if they can, so it cannot be called a plothole. At least this is the way I see it. Asuna took of her clothes but not underwear. We do not know if she really used this Ethic Code off mode, or not. Moreover, we do not know what will happen if nipples and genitals were visible - maybe Kirito would only see a mosaic. Well, it just seem bizzare to me. Even in LN it seemed like such a feature would not go untested by beta testers. Otherwise game would have an age restriction. And I do not believe simulating sex would be as simple as giving them virtual viginas and pinases.It is even stated that SAO was not so great at simulating reality anyway (in ALO I think). |
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BuliTM said: ssjokg said: Game was developed in Japan and it had had to adhere to their law. And i do not believe sex simulator is such an easy function to hide. Asuna was yet to take of her underwear. She was yet to show anything special, but simply loves to sleep naked. Or you are right. SAO was developed in order to appeal to everyone and very well advertised game just like WoW gets in U.S.A. And because children can play it (Silica was 13 years old, if i remember correctly) than such a game would never get truly adult features. it does not even have blood. The scenario in chapter 16 left in perfectly ambiguous - they could do it, but we are never hinted that they did. We do not know if they can, so it cannot be called a plothole. At least this is the way I see it. Asuna took of her clothes but not underwear. We do not know if she really used this Ethic Code off mode, or not. Moreover, we do not know what will happen if nipples and genitals were visible - maybe Kirito would only see a mosaic. Well, it just seem bizzare to me. Even in LN it seemed like such a feature would not go untested by beta testers. Otherwise game would have an age restriction. And I do not believe simulating sex would be as simple as giving them virtual viginas and pinases.It is even stated that SAO was not so great at simulating reality anyway (in ALO I think). He hid a huge death trap in the nerve gear.While not related with the game's features ,somebody should have noticed how dangerous it is.What would happen if the Gear malfunctioned etc....Using the law isnt getting us anywhere.Kayaba could always make the sex simulation features hidden until the death game started. It is said many times that it's difficult for the game to simulate bodily fluids.Blood,semen,vomit dont exist there.Thats why we only see tears(and probably sweat I dont remember if in the LN it existed or the anime added it) Whats the point of Ethic Code off mode,if you only see a mosaic?It's like like having sword skills without being able to use a sword. Kirito states that it wasnt there in the beta test. As for simulating sex.They dont need to make it like the real thing...As long as there is a hole..... Kayaba wanted to create a new world,the reality he wanted.The laws of Japan or the "other" world meant nothing to him. |
| SAO was never made by one person, there was entire company behind Kayaba. They would never create game that was against Japanese law. One of the laws is that porn must be censored. Yes, majority of Japanese pornography is censored. Although you see nipples, if I think about it. So, yeah, if even they had sex, they had mosaic sex. Not to mention a cyber one. |
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BuliTM said: SAO was never made by one person, there was entire company behind Kayaba. They would never create game that was against Japanese law. One of the laws is that porn must be censored. Yes, majority of Japanese pornography is censored. Although you see nipples, if I think about it. So, yeah, if even they had sex, they had mosaic sex. Not to mention a cyber one. You make it sound like it was difficult for him to do that.In ALO the goverment needed Kirito's help to find out what was going on.What they did there was WAY MORE illegal than virtual uncensored sex(and we are talking about an international matter).NO one can say that the company behind Kayaba didnt make a sex simulation feature(they could always sale it outside japan) but didnt plan include it when the game was to be released there.Kayaba could have put it in without them realizing. And the one responsible for ALO was, in no way smarter(and composed)than Kayaba. |
ssjokgSep 15, 2012 4:13 AM
| just read the whole chapter 16 (minus the chapter 16.5) they did it... just skipped some scene until we saw asuna on the bed sleeping ... :| |
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| Two years worth of saved up semen makes a glopping noise as it flows endlessly into Asuna. |
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