Kolnikov said: We could add all the others too. What else is there? Alcohol? Driving? Smoking?Eearu said: the age of consent in brazil (if that's where you live (as your avatar implies)) is actually 14, just some minor thing to point out. Just to make things clear, I'm not against teenagers having sex lol (this isn't ''messing around for me'', just some pretty normal stuff to do). Probably Immahnoob thinks I'm also talking about sex, I'm not. Kolnikov said: I'll ask you a relevant question now. Do you know the meaning of words? Words have meaning behind them. You basically said "The law says so, so it's enough." and if that statement is true, that means that law would be inherently right.Where is the ''right'' in this statement? A rule can be unfair and wrong. In fact, I think a lot of them are wrong from a particular point of view. Either way, considering some other circumstances I don't discard them right away. You're contradicting yourself now. I want to know why law was "right" in that case, but if you do agree that teenagers shouldn't be barred from sex, I don't really care. |
ImmahnoobDec 3, 2014 7:13 PM
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Age of consent is the age when you are able to say "Yes" to sexual acts. Otherwise, anyone that wants to have sex with you before the age of consent is "raping you" because if you lack the ability to consent, that means it will always be "No" and you yourself as one that hasn't reached the age of consent can't change it to "Yes" anyway. Smoking and alcohol can be harmful on the long run. Driving can be quite difficult as it's both practice and theory, it also involves a lot of fast decision taking. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Kolnikov the "age of consent" or "consent age" is the age you are legally allowed to consent to sex. Consent is an invited approval. Its meaning only applies to sex, not the drinking, smoking, driving, voting ages. |
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| The thing is, about smoking and alcohol, although they are harmful, why do adults have the right to take that decision of harming themselves? The idea that a teenager has no idea about the consequences, about the act etc is just pure propaganda. Also, if we'd let teenagers get a license earlier, it wouldn't change that they have to take the same test. If they're not able to finish the test, then they're not able to have a license, therefore they cannot drive. traed said: Kolnikov the "age of consent" is the age you are legally allowed to consent to sex. Consent is an invited approval. Its meaning only applies to sex, not the drinking, smoking, driving, voting ages. I said the same thing, don't take my stage. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| as long as its 2d its no big deal. |
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| So it's all about having your own money then? So, as long as you rely on someone (which you didn't choose to do necessarily) that means you have no right on certain things? Sure, I dislike alcohol, drugs and smoking too, I'd love if they wouldn't be as popular as they are now, but the other way around can work too, liberal or not, I see no reason for one to not be able to "ruin" his own life if he so pleases, dependent on others or not, working or not, these aren't really relevant stances unless we're talking about morality. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Alcohol is known to be harmful, so is smoking, but there are other activities that are recreational yet they can be harmful too and are not taken into consideration here. Sports in an obsessive manner for example, or computer obsession etc. You'd say "But smoking and alcohol can be addictive.", so can many hobbies be deemed as "addictive". Also, alcohol/smoking will not impede your brain development when you've finished "developing" yes, but they'll just lead to your brain "developing" faster during the adult phase... "Developing" towards your death. The problem here is where should we be just and where should we not be just? Where can we limit ourselves if we don't limit "harmful" activities like these? |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| im 24, do i look like a pedo to you? i like people who are mature, and high schoolers arent that |
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| But they're still harmful, how are smoking/alcohol different? After all, the obsessions are the ones that are immediately harmful. Also, the "family should decide" isn't really a good thing to say in this situation, we're arguing over consent from the individual that is "harming" himself here. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| You're just going on tangents that really have nothing to do with the topic we were discussing, that's the problem. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| This is the problem with someone that doesn't know how to discuss, they start blaming the opposition for their shortcomings. I don't make up "logic", "logic" remains objective and in a discussion it's almost always needed. You're using words like "We can't do X to everyone" or "We can't do Y with our current money" when I never suggested that or was even talking about that, I only want to know where does the hypocrisy end and why does it end there. If teenagers can hurt themselves from any type of obsession, how does it make smoking/alcohol different? It's only harmful if it's an addiction/obsession, that's what we already know. So why bother making up these laws? Also, any other obsession/addiction can lead to you being harmful to people around you too. We're not speaking about the "current social problems" because I don't see how smoking and alcohol are killing off the population of teenagers or adults yet. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| more loli haters, eh? |
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| what the fuck would you guys want with a underaged child anyways? find someone your own age this does not apply to people who are high school aged |
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| obsess over lolis - its a mental disease :P |
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| holy shit the amount of derailing and deterioration on this thread OT: It's just the product of dicking around, some (emphasis on some) people are just being sarcastic and joking around. Although with most users I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. Not that it's a bad thing though, I don't judge your sexual interests because just being a dick. |
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Nisx said: obsess over lolis - its a mental disease :P false. it's adoration. |
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Pauper said: I cry myself to sleep because I will never have a 2D gf you have no swag |
| I neither really obsess over them nor act as such. They don't appeal to me. |
| "Dakimakura aren't meant for fucking." -Moog, January 2015 When a site's moderators warn you for condemning a troll, you know their moderators need to be changed out. |
Kolnikov said: There was no answer.Immahnoob said: I only want to know where does the hypocrisy end and why does it end there. If teenagers can hurt themselves from any type of obsession, how does it make smoking/alcohol different? I could quote my last post that says you are not here for discussing, but that wouldn't help. Also, I've already answered those questions. Again, you just ignore what you don't want to see and call the rest "invalid". It won't change, you don't have a point and you just want to spread bullcrap, admit. I answered your questions already, if you can't find the part about hypocrisy and why I consider alcohol a different problem with different implications, especially for teenagers, then I'm sorry mate. If you're purposely doing this, that's okay, I'm going to sleep =D |
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