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Oct 25, 2014 11:38 AM

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I'm relying on people who've read the visual novel readers for this. I thought it was just interesting to whether she found out archer's identity and at what point she finds out. It's the same with the rest of the characters and I'm wondering how they all found out about archer's identity since it's not really clear in the film adaptation, I'm just curious to how the characters react-in particular rin, saber, illya and lancer- to finding out about his identity.
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I'm relying on people who've read the visual novel readers for this. I thought it was just interesting to whether she found out archer's identity and at what point she finds out. It's the same with the rest of the characters and I'm wondering how they all found out about archer's identity since it's not really clear in the film adaptation, I'm just curious to how the characters react-in particular rin, saber, illya and lancer- to finding out about his identity.


No.
Oct 25, 2014 11:40 AM

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We have a thread for these kinds of questions: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1292653

But to answer your question.

Oct 25, 2014 11:41 AM

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EsPwnage said:
I'm relying on people who've read the visual novel readers for this. I thought it was just interesting to whether she found out archer's identity and at what point she finds out. It's the same with the rest of the characters and I'm wondering how they all found out about archer's identity since it's not really clear in the film adaptation, I'm just curious to how the characters react-in particular rin, saber, illya and lancer- to finding out about his identity.


No.


Pretty sure Illya knew in HF.

As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Oct 25, 2014 11:43 AM

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CorePriest said:

But to answer your question.


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Oct 25, 2014 11:43 AM

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Yeah but its not the focus.

That's like asking whether Shirou ever finds out who Illya is in UBW -
Oct 25, 2014 11:48 AM

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Thnx for the link to the thread. how the hell does rin find out, I don't recall anything being said in the film adaptation.if you know any links to this sort of topic pls say, won't be able to get the vn so I'd like to read up on it.
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EsPwnage said:
Thnx for the link to the thread. how the hell does rin find out, I don't recall anything being said in the film adaptation.if you know any links to this sort of topic pls say, won't be able to get the vn so I'd like to read up on it.


As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
Oct 25, 2014 12:08 PM

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Thnx a lot m8.
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EsPwnage said:
Thnx a lot m8.


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Oct 25, 2014 12:12 PM

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EsPwnage said:
Thnx a lot m8.

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all of the routes
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Oct 25, 2014 12:13 PM

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EsPwnage said:
Thnx a lot m8.




Actually
Oct 25, 2014 12:14 PM

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EsPwnage said:
Thnx a lot m8.


[spoiler]
Saber finds out after Archer backstabs Caster and opens up Unlimited Blade Works. Shirou also confirmed his suspicions then because Archer said "Trace On" which is Shirou's unique circuit activation phrase.

Shirou always suspected that Illya was related to Kiritsugu throughout Heaven's Feel. And She confirmed it and forgives Kiritsugu when they went shopping. But it wasn't until the end of Heaven's Feel true route that he finds out that she is his stepsister.

BTW if you want to read the VN, you can read it on youtube. Xerblade uploaded the whole VN like 5 years ago.
As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all.
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CookingPriest said:
CorePriest said:




Actually


I'm specifically talking about the events in FSN.
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CorePriest said:
CookingPriest said:



Actually


I'm specifically talking about the events in FSN.


Oct 25, 2014 12:17 PM

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CookingPriest said:
CorePriest said:


I'm specifically talking about the events in FSN.




First time I've heard of this.
Oct 25, 2014 12:19 PM

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CorePriest said:

First time I've heard of this.


Can't be bothered to search for exact interview now but that's out of nasu's mouth itself.

Its something he did not add to VN so maybe they will add it to adaptaton? since illya will have more screentime.
Oct 25, 2014 1:06 PM

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Nasu or not, I'm finding that hard to believe. Sounds like an unnecessary thing for him to even say, to be honest. Now, if it's utilized in this adaptation then that's cool.
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Oct 25, 2014 1:39 PM

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BloodRequiem said:
EsPwnage said:
Thnx a lot m8.


[spoiler]
Saber finds out after Archer backstabs Caster and opens up Unlimited Blade Works. Shirou also confirmed his suspicions then because Archer said "Trace On" which is Shirou's unique circuit activation phrase.

Shirou always suspected that Illya was related to Kiritsugu throughout Heaven's Feel. And She confirmed it and forgives Kiritsugu when they went shopping. But it wasn't until the end of Heaven's Feel true route that he finds out that she is his stepsister.

BTW if you want to read the VN, you can read it on youtube. Xerblade uploaded the whole VN like 5 years ago.


Didn't Shirou find that out since Fate??? But I know he knew before HF, at least I did.
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Oct 25, 2014 2:24 PM

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is the manga worth reading ?
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Valaskjalf said:
is the manga worth reading ?

No.
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Valaskjalf said:
is the manga worth reading ?

FSN manga?No.
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Valaskjalf said:
is the manga worth reading ?

More than the first anime, but still no
Oct 27, 2014 12:36 PM

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Is reading the VN through youtube playthroughs a valid alternative? It's not the same as playing it, but unfortunately I can't install the VN on this computer.
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toyall123 said:
Is reading the VN through youtube playthroughs a valid alternative? It's not the same as playing it, but unfortunately I can't install the VN on this computer.
Well, to understand the story, it is a valid, though inferior, way to experience the VN. You just don't get to make your own choices and can't look up stat and weapon sheets whenever you want. You can't accidentally see a Bad End either, but there is a playlist for them too of course.

I'd be more interested in why you can't install the VN though.
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I'd be more interested in why you can't install the VN though.


Yeah, maybe one of us could help?
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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Oct 27, 2014 4:26 PM
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was the ending part of ep 3 where saber tells shirou he can let go of her hand in the vn as well?
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was the ending part of ep 3 where saber tells shirou he can let go of her hand in the vn as well?


Yes it is.
Oct 27, 2014 8:19 PM

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CorePriest said:

I'd be more interested in why you can't install the VN though.

Part of the reason is because I am using a Mac. The main reason is because I share my sister's work computer out of cost-efficiency, and she doesn't feel comfortable with me downloading or installing tools that are not work or school-related. So no Bootcamp, unfortunately.

I do want to read the VN, but this is the best alternative I can think of.

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Yeah, maybe one of us could help?


Thanks. I appreciate the sentiment. :)
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Wineskin stand-alone library. Hide it in /bin or another unix base folder
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Wineskin stand-alone library. Hide it in /bin or another unix base folder


Got it. Thanks. I'll do that when the weekend starts.
Oct 28, 2014 7:20 PM
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when rin summoned archer and asked him what his identity was, was he lying when he said he didnt remember?
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Got a question that has always bothered me, in the UBW route was Ayako really raped? Shinji claims she was raped but I have not read anything that confirms this.
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Got a question

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Cheeeeeeese said:
Got a question that has always bothered me, in the UBW route was Ayako really raped? Shinji claims she was raped but I have not read anything that confirms this.


attacked/mugged.

No actual rape.

Thanks for the clarification. Glad it didn't happen or else it would've been another addition to my already long "Reasons to hate Shinji" list.
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Shouldn't you guys tag that? I mean, this anime is based on UBW......
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Cheeeeeeese said:

Thanks for the clarification. Glad it didn't happen or else it would've been another addition to my already long "Reasons to hate Shinji" list.

Boy are you gonna like Heaven's Feel.
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1. Did Archer actually killed Berserker in episode 3 with Caladbolg or Berserker protected himself?
2. Do you guys think that Caladbolg is powerful enough to kill Lancelot?
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1. Did Archer actually killed Berserker in episode 3 with Caladbolg or Berserker protected himself?
2. Do you guys think that Caladbolg is powerful enough to kill Lancelot?
1. Nope, Berserker blocked it.
2. It would turn him into ash.
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2. Do you guys think that Caladbolg is powerful enough to kill Lancelot?

LAncelot is very strong in melee combat but he cant do sit against AoE attacks that are similar to nukes.

Archer has many NPs that could beat him.
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Just a speculative question.

How far in the VN do you guys think the first cour will cover?
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Just a speculative question.

How far in the VN do you guys think the first cour will cover?


11th or 12th day. Either when
I think it's the former.
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Just a speculative question.

How far in the VN do you guys think the first cour will cover?


Well the first cour in Fate Zero


So if its anything similar it will do a simalar thing in UBW, tho its been a while since I read it so I wouldn't be able to guess where in the VN. It will be a cliffhanger though that's for sure.
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toyall123 said:
Just a speculative question.

How far in the VN do you guys think the first cour will cover?


Well the first cour in Fate Zero


So if its anything similar it will do a simalar thing in UBW, tho its been a while since I read it so I wouldn't be able to guess where in the VN. It will be a cliffhanger though that's for sure.


There is
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Nov 1, 2014 5:38 PM

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I guess not, its been like over 2 years since I read UBW, CorePriest is probably got it right.
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I guess not, its been like over 2 years since I read UBW, CorePriest is probably got it right.

Well
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ElPysCongroo said:
I guess not, its been like over 2 years since I read UBW, CorePriest is probably got it right.

Well


"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job."

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I guess there will be no explanation about the spells that the mages are using during battles so what would be the best place to read more about them?

I'm mainly interested in the bird familiars (that can change shape)/jewel spells/red and black orbs (the ones that Rin used against Illya and those skeletons in the latest ep)/the enhancement that Rin used on herself to escape from Lancer.

There is that info thread with servant stats and abilities so I thought that these are also probably explained in detail somewhere.
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