Nicole said: Isn't that what you are doing by contradicting me? Besides, your suggestion about prohibiting men from leaving their home while night is terrible, sexist, biased and stereotypical. lupadim said: No, you're trying to force your own opinions on others.I am merely saying women should use clothes. Touchè |
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lupadim said: Or are you saying that when a seducing women walks on the street, a rapist wouldn't be more likely to rape her That is actually true, most rapists don't remember what their victim was wearing, look it up. Ignorant person is ignorant. |
JamalKing said: You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even rememberlupadim said: That is actually true, most rapists don't remember what their victim was wearing, look it up.Or are you saying that when a seducing women walks on the street, a rapist wouldn't be more likely to rape her Ignorant person is ignorant. |
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Makomonogatari said: That women should have responsibility on their part to prevent rapes? To not just hope that others won't give in to urges? To be cautious? ...What?KentoBento said: No "pro-responsibility" person, including the OP, has made clear what their point even is or why they think it's important. There's nothing to argue against.Another comment about how the point isn't a logical one, but yet ..nothing to argue against it. Nicole said: You know, it's funny you say that. With the things you've posted throughout the thread.KentoBento said: Nicole said: You know, rapes happen by females too. Shiratori99 said: I'm repeating myself, but if even 1 rape is being prevented by teaching women to be cautious the policy is a success already. You could prevent more rapes by taking up my suggestion and banning men from drinking alcohol or going out at night. And don't some states have restrictions on alcohol at night? And just because it's banned doesn't mean it's going to stop something. The more wary and cautious a person is however, the less likely an accident will occur. Again, like my post said, shit examples. You should learn what the word more means. It doesn't mean all. Edit: Did someone make a new account just for this thread? I'm done. I'll just watch the thread and not answer from now on. >: |
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lupadim said: I actually laughed out loud. Pure, unadulterated lupadim logic.You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even remember |
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lupadim said: Nicole said: Isn't that what you are doing by contradicting me? Besides, your suggestion about prohibiting men from leaving their home while night is terrible, sexist, biased and stereotypical. lupadim said: No, you're trying to force your own opinions on others.I am merely saying women should use clothes. Touchè It's also sarcasm, it's what most of the guys in here have been doing since page 1. But apparently when I do it, it's sexist. When you lot do it, it's 'telling women to take more caution'. |
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Makomonogatari said: And the best part is that no one can prove it wronglupadim said: I actually laughed out loud. Pure, unadulterated lupadim logic.You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even remember |
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Nicole said: Like legit, the majority of the males in the thread haven't been in the right with the way they label shit and post it, but ...lupadim said: Nicole said: Isn't that what you are doing by contradicting me? Besides, your suggestion about prohibiting men from leaving their home while night is terrible, sexist, biased and stereotypical. lupadim said: No, you're trying to force your own opinions on others.I am merely saying women should use clothes. Touchè It's also sarcasm, it's what most of the guys in here have been doing since page 1. But apparently when I do it, it's sexist. When you lot do it, it's 'telling women to take more caution'. Two wrongs don't make a right, and I'm pretty sure that's not sarcasm. You DID reply to me pretty srsly. K, now I'm done. >: Was interesting while it lasted. |
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lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.Makomonogatari said: And the best part is that no one can prove it wronglupadim said: I actually laughed out loud. Pure, unadulterated lupadim logic.You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even remember |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
lupadim said: JamalKing said: You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even rememberlupadim said: That is actually true, most rapists don't remember what their victim was wearing, look it up.Or are you saying that when a seducing women walks on the street, a rapist wouldn't be more likely to rape her Ignorant person is ignorant. Your logic is ridiculous. I'm going to follow the advice of Greg King "Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you to his level and beat you with experience." I truly hope any women you encounter in life are safe. After all anything YOU do to them will be THEIR fault right? Edit: No I did not make an account just for this thread, I made an account because I've been lurking for months on the HxH threads so I thought I'd join in. Didn't expect one of the first threads I see to be a load of teenage boys who hate women. |
JamalKingFeb 25, 2014 5:19 PM
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JamalKing said: In no way I blame the victim when they are raped; I am just saying that the fact some women wear little to no clothes end up HELPING with the possibility of being chosen by a rapistlupadim said: JamalKing said: You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even rememberlupadim said: That is actually true, most rapists don't remember what their victim was wearing, look it up.Or are you saying that when a seducing women walks on the street, a rapist wouldn't be more likely to rape her Ignorant person is ignorant. Your logic is ridiculous. I'm going to follow the advice of Greg King "Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you to his level and beat you with experience." I truly hope any women you encounter in life are safe. After all anything YOU do to them will be THEIR fault right? |
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Nicole said: Never-mind. I guess I'll stay. Just for you, Nicole. And also, let's be truthful, what I said wasn't sexist, I'm telling men to be more cautious after all, the vast majority don't want to rape someone, but there is always that chance you know, if they walk into a dark alley and see some girl there, who knows what could happen>. That right there is sexist. Although, she brings a valid point. If you're feeling the urge go stick your doodle in between two pillows instead of trying to rape a female. JamalKing said: He's not saying it's an invitation. It just makes it easier. Haven't convicted rapists pretty much said that they've picked their victims because it was easier to get clothes off them, that it wasn't much of a struggle?http://www.thisisnotaninvitationtorapeme.co.uk/dress edit: double post, no effs. Mod Edit: double post merged. |
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JamalKing said: http://www.thisisnotaninvitationtorapeme.co.uk/dress Website said: The problem is that I am not saying men will think "oh she wants to be raped", they will simply think "she is hot omg cant control myself", I mean, they will be more prone to rape them.Women are often judged on the basis of the way they present themselves, as though the presence of a bra or a subtler shade of lipstick might have made all the difference between an uneventful occasion, and one on which a sexual assault took place. The assumption that such choices can lead to rape – that clothes can speak for women who say no – are ludicrous and extremely damaging. |
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KentoBento said: Never-mind. I guess I'll stay. Just for you, Nicole. That right there is sexist. Although, she brings a valid point. If you're feeling the urge go stick your doodle in between two pillows instead of trying to rape a female. I'm so happy your staying. And it's not sexist, can you please reply without having an emotional bias. I'm merely stating that if you go outside at a night as a man you are partially responsible for your decision to rape someone, and no that is no me blaming the rapist or anything like that, this is merely me trying to make men be more cautious about what they do when they go out or drink alcohol. |
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Nicole said: You are sexist, some rapes are made by women and I highly doubt all the rapes are made by drunk men (irony, they aren't definitely)I'm so happy your staying. And it's not sexist, can you please reply without having an emotional attachment. I'm merely stating that if you go outside at a night as a man you are partially responsible for your decision to rape someone, and no that is no me blaming the rapist or anything like that, this is merely me trying to make men be more cautious about what they do when they go out or drink alcohol. |
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Nicole said: KentoBento said: Never-mind. I guess I'll stay. Just for you, Nicole. That right there is sexist. Although, she brings a valid point. If you're feeling the urge go stick your doodle in between two pillows instead of trying to rape a female. I'm so happy your staying. And it's not sexist, can you please reply without having an emotional attachment. I'm merely stating that if you go outside at a night as a man you are partially responsible for your decision to rape someone, and no that is no me blaming the rapist or anything like that, this is merely me trying to make men be more cautious about what they do when they go out or drink alcohol. Stop, I'm blushing. Actually, I'm going to agree with you on this one. The way I read it made it seem sexist, I thought you were saying "the vast majority of them will rape someone" instead of " the vast majority do not want to rape someone". That was my bad on that one. |
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lupadim said: Nicole said: You are sexist, some rapes are made by women and I highly doubt all the rapes are made by drunk men (irony, they aren't definitely)I'm so happy your staying. And it's not sexist, can you please reply without having an emotional attachment. I'm merely stating that if you go outside at a night as a man you are partially responsible for your decision to rape someone, and no that is no me blaming the rapist or anything like that, this is merely me trying to make men be more cautious about what they do when they go out or drink alcohol. I'm in no way suggesting that all rapes are done by drunk men, merely stating that if men were more taught to be more cautious beforehand, we'd cut down on the number of rapes. |
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Nicole said: And prohibiting them from drinking alcohol is the solution? I highly support the prohibition of alcohol (making it illegal), but not because of that. Cutting down alcohol is not the way to go.I'm in no way suggesting that all rapes are done by drunk men, merely stating that if men were more taught to be more cautious beforehand, we'd cut down on the number of rapes. |
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lupadim said: You could say the same about the rapist having a dickJamalKing said: In no way I blame the victim when they are raped; I am just saying that the fact some women wear little to no clothes end up HELPING with the possibility of being chosen by a rapistYour logic is ridiculous. I'm going to follow the advice of Greg King "Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you to his level and beat you with experience." I truly hope any women you encounter in life are safe. After all anything YOU do to them will be THEIR fault right? Mod Edit: quote tower put under spoiler tag. |
ThangLongMar 1, 2014 8:55 AM
lupadim said: Nicole said: And prohibiting them from drinking alcohol is the solution? I highly support the prohibition of alcohol (making it illegal), but not because of that. Cutting down alcohol is not the way to go.I'm in no way suggesting that all rapes are done by drunk men, merely stating that if men were more taught to be more cautious beforehand, we'd cut down on the number of rapes. But prohibition will only lead to more problems. We gotta learn from history. |
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kami_desu said: They will eventually fix themselves and we will have a society that is way more superior than the one we have today. Alcohol is primitive, just as killing and raping.lupadim said: Nicole said: And prohibiting them from drinking alcohol is the solution? I highly support the prohibition of alcohol (making it illegal), but not because of that. Cutting down alcohol is not the way to go.I'm in no way suggesting that all rapes are done by drunk men, merely stating that if men were more taught to be more cautious beforehand, we'd cut down on the number of rapes. But prohibition will only lead to more problems. We gotta learn from history. |
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Nicole said: Yet the majority of muslim countries have lower rape rates than Canada, the US and JapanOh wait...most muslim countries have the worst record and laws in the world for rape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics |
JD2411 said: CANADA? WUT? Completely fake, wikipedia as always. It states that "one every 17 women is raped in Canada", which is obviously falseNicole said: Yet the majority of muslim countries have lower rape rates than Canada, the US and JapanOh wait...most muslim countries have the worst record and laws in the world for rape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics |
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lupadim said: kami_desu said: They will eventually fix themselves and we will have a society that is way more superior than the one we have today. Alcohol is primitive, just as killing and raping.lupadim said: Nicole said: And prohibiting them from drinking alcohol is the solution? I highly support the prohibition of alcohol (making it illegal), but not because of that. Cutting down alcohol is not the way to go.I'm in no way suggesting that all rapes are done by drunk men, merely stating that if men were more taught to be more cautious beforehand, we'd cut down on the number of rapes. But prohibition will only lead to more problems. We gotta learn from history. That's what they thought back in the 1920s |
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Shiratori99 said: I'm repeating myself, but if even 1 rape is being prevented by teaching women to be cautious the policy is a success already. Maybe I have not made my point clear enough. I'll spell this out in fewer words... You are NOT teaching women to be cautious, you are teaching them to be scared to report rape. CONGRATS! Shiratori99 said: You just can't (or don't want to) understand the point of this argument. No, I don't AGREE with the point of it. I don't feel that it is achieving what I think OP intends it to achieve. I've been there, ok? I've BEEN raped. I've BEEN the victim. I've BEEN told countless times that I probably brought it on. Your whole point is that guilting rape victims will somehow help the situation. I HAVE LIVED IT. I have lived through the crime, the aftermath, the judgment, the doubt, the fear, the condescension. I can't even count how many women I know who were raped. Women and a couple men that probably wouldn't have even told me if they didn't already know I was. I have a cousin who was raped. My best friend was too in a similar situation to my own (actually the reason we became so close). I have a little girl and you could not ever imagine the level of fear I have that something may ever happen to her. My mind is constantly, and against my wishes, on that subject trying to think of the best way to raise her to keep her safe from similar situations. Telling ME that my own actions brought it on will do HER no good!!! How the fuck is that supposed to keep MY sweet little girl from being raped!? Somehow trying to berate me will help her? How does this make sense to you? In my own case I actually was weak enough to believe the bullshit coming out of the mouths of ignorant fools like yourself for years. I actually felt like it was somehow my fault for many years. I hated myself, constantly thought about killing myself, day in and day out. Tell me how living that kind of life helps the victim or helps other women learn to be cautious? Because the only thing that helped me was when I started to understand just how insane it was to place any blame on a rape victim. Almost EVERY damn rape victim feels they are somehow to blame, or that they made some decision along the line that lead to it. You are NOT doing anyone any favors. You are not telling rape victims anything that they haven't already thought about in great depth. Do you really think ANY rape victim is going to read or hear comments like this and think "oh well gosh darn it... I never thought about it like that... huh... they have a point... well... they taught me a valuable lesson." Even when we can finally convince ourselves that we shouldn't blame ourselves, that feeling of guilt NEVER goes away. You really don't understand this topic at all, as you really seem to think you all are doing rape victims a favor by pointing out what they could have or should have done different, as though they'd never thought of it. There is almost nothing in the world that you can tell a rape victim that we have not heard already... that we have not considered or perhaps believe. There was a thread a while back that was along the lines of "how to decrease rape". While there was also a good bit of conflict in it, there were actually some useful posts that did outline problems in society and with individual behavior that could be addressed to help decrease incidents of rape. THAT kind of thread helps. Bashing victims does squat. Sorry if I come off harsh here, but I'm losing my cool here at the thought that there are actually people so blindly self righteous that they somehow think making things WORSE for a rape victim will somehow HELP them. So few rape victims will speak up for this exact reason. I'm sick of it, and I want my daughter to grow up in a world where she is NOT afraid to stand up for herself because of jackasses that would punish her for it. It enrages me because I know there are victims reading these threads that are doubting themselves once again because of these comments. |
JadeQuetzalFeb 25, 2014 5:36 PM
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lupadim said: Nicole said: And prohibiting them from drinking alcohol is the solution? I highly support the prohibition of alcohol (making it illegal), but not because of that. Cutting down alcohol is not the way to go.I'm in no way suggesting that all rapes are done by drunk men, merely stating that if men were more taught to be more cautious beforehand, we'd cut down on the number of rapes. Yes, and of course not letting them go out at night, that's also a fundamental part of it. |
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| I like Nicole's logic. Most rapes are perpetrated by men. Most victims are women. Solution 1. Tell women what happened to them was their fault and if they didn't drink so much it wouldn't have happened. Police them into wearing "suitable" clothing, infringing on their human rights. Solution 2. Educate men about how to treat women from a young age, making sure that they know that no means no. After all consensual sex is great sex, take it from me. Solution 2 infringes on nobody's human rights. Which seems like the better course of action? I fully expect people to disregard logic and apply idiocy but it would be nice if they didn't. |
JamalKingFeb 25, 2014 5:37 PM
Makomonogatari said: This comment right here.lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.Makomonogatari said: And the best part is that no one can prove it wronglupadim said: I actually laughed out loud. Pure, unadulterated lupadim logic.You just proved my point, it means the cloth was so tiny they don't even remember http://i.minus.com/iBEwT7tEC0X2B.gif |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
JD2411 said: Nicole said: Yet the majority of muslim countries have lower rape rates than Canada, the US and JapanOh wait...most muslim countries have the worst record and laws in the world for rape. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics One, that's not even true, two, statistics in some Muslim countries are artificially low because some forms of rape are not illegal and you can be arrested for reporting a rape. |
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lupadim said: That actually strikes me as a surprisingly low estimate.CANADA? WUT? Completely fake, wikipedia as always. It states that "one every 17 women is raped in Canada", which is obviously false my boi right here |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Makomonogatari said: Pure gold.my boi right here |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
JamalKing said: Can we just ignore this guy? I like Nicole's logic. Most rapes are perpetrated by men. Most victims are women. Solution 1. Tell women what happened to them was their fault and if they didn't drink so much it wouldn't have happened. Police them into wearing "suitable" clothing, infringing on their human rights. Solution 2. Educate men about how to treat women from a young age, making sure that they know that no means no. After all consensual sex is great sex, take it from me. Solution 2 infringes on nobody's human rights. Which seems like the better course of action? I fully expect people to disregard logic and apply idiocy but it would be nice if they didn't. 1. Obvious it's an alt. 2. The insults aren't necessary because it is a discussion. 3. What? Obviously Solution 2 is the best option, but that's because you practically misunderstood what the actual solution for 1 is. I'm really not going to repeat it. |
KentoBentoFeb 25, 2014 5:48 PM
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Makomonogatari said: That actually strikes me as a surprisingly low estimate. It's one of the lowest in the world. http://www.statisticbrain.com/rape-statistics/ - Source: U.S. Bureau of Justice, CDC, Koss, Gidycz & Wisniewski College Study, United Nations KentoBento said: Can we just ignore this guy? 1. Obvious it's an alt. 2. The insults aren't necessary because it is a discussion. 3. What? Ignoring people because they don't agree with you? Mod Edit: double post merged. |
ThangLongMar 1, 2014 8:14 AM
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JadeQuetzal said: Shiratori99 said: I'm repeating myself, but if even 1 rape is being prevented by teaching women to be cautious the policy is a success already. Maybe I have not made my point clear enough. I'll spell this out in fewer words... You are NOT teaching women to be cautious, you are teaching them to be scared to report rape. CONGRATS! Ok, now you have gone nuts. JadeQuetzal said: No, I don't AGREE with the point of it. I don't feel that it is achieving what I think OP intends it to achieve. I've been there, ok? I've BEEN raped. I've BEEN the victim. I've BEEN told countless times that I probably brought it on. Your whole point is that guilting rape victims will somehow help the situation. I HAVE LIVED IT. I have lived through the crime, the aftermath, the judgment, the doubt, the fear, the condescension. I can't even count how many women I know who were raped. Women and a couple men that probably wouldn't have even told me if they didn't already know I was. I have a cousin who was raped. My best friend was too in a similar situation to my own (actually the reason we became so close). I have a little girl and you could not ever imagine the level of fear I have that something may ever happen to her. My mind is constantly, and against my wishes, on that subject trying to think of the best way to raise her to keep her safe from similar situations. Telling ME that my own actions brought it on will do HER no good!!! How the fuck is that supposed to keep MY sweet little girl from being raped!? Somehow trying to berate me will help her? How does this make sense to you? In my own case I actually was weak enough to believe the bullshit coming out of the mouths of ignorant fools like yourself for years. I actually felt like it was somehow my fault for many years. I hated myself, constantly thought about killing myself, day in and day out. Tell me how living that kind of life helps the victim or helps other women learn to be cautious? Because the only thing that helped me was when I started to understand just how insane it was to place any blame on a rape victim. Almost EVERY damn rape victim feels they are somehow to blame, or that they made some decision along the line that lead to it. You are NOT doing anyone any favors. You are not telling rape victims anything that they haven't already thought about in great depth. Do you really think ANY rape victim is going to read or hear comments like this and think "oh well gosh darn it... I never thought about it like that... huh... they have a point... well... they taught me a valuable lesson." Even when we can finally convince ourselves that we shouldn't blame ourselves, that feeling of guilt NEVER goes away. You really don't understand this topic at all, as you really seem to think you all are doing rape victims a favor by pointing out what they could have or should have done different, as though they'd never thought of it. There is almost nothing in the world that you can tell a rape victim that we have not heard already... that we have not considered or perhaps believe. There was a thread a while back that was along the lines of "how to decrease rape". While there was also a good bit of conflict in it, there were actually some useful posts that did outline problems in society and with individual behavior that could be addressed to help decrease incidents of rape. THAT kind of thread helps. Bashing victims does squat. Sorry if I come off harsh here, but I'm losing my cool here at the thought that there are actually people so blindly self righteous that they somehow think making things WORSE for a rape victim will somehow HELP them. So few rape victims will speak up for this exact reason. I'm sick of it, and I want my daughter to grow up in a world where she is NOT afraid to stand up for herself because of jackasses that would punish her for it. It enrages me because I know there are victims reading these threads that are doubting themselves once again because of these comments. For the 3278237328 time, it's about warning people who have not been raped yet to be cautious, not about blaming victims. As someone said before, a lot of people go with the attitude through life that "lol this can't happen to me" and thus take unnecessary risks. It seems to me, you are the one who actually doesn't care for the victims as you're suggesting that we just let them blindly run into their doom without properly warning them of abstaining from dangerous behavior. And I'm sorry that you got raped, but this doesn't prove anything, so I don't know why you even mention it. |
Shiratori99Feb 25, 2014 6:00 PM
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Nicole said: I mean, I did agree with you, didn't I?KentoBento said: Can we just ignore this guy? 1. Obvious it's an alt. 2. The insults aren't necessary because it is a discussion. 3. What? Ignoring people because they don't agree with you? It's the fact that he's pretty much ignored the rest of the topic and jumped right in, even though his questions are answered not even a page back. Like, what |
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Nicole said: So basically, what people are saying is. If you don't want to get raped, don't drink ever, don't go out at night, never meet new people and never wear skimpy clothes. What you want to do is take away any kind of freedom that women have by blaming them for when a man can't control himself. This is literally not what is being said by most if not all people (including OP) |
RandomChampion said: Nicole said: So basically, what people are saying is. If you don't want to get raped, don't drink ever, don't go out at night, never meet new people and never wear skimpy clothes. What you want to do is take away any kind of freedom that women have by blaming them for when a man can't control himself. This is literally not what is being said by most if not all people (including OP) This is unimportant, the solution to stopping a huge amount of rapes has already been decided, we just stop men from drinking alcohol or going out at night. Seems perfectly fair to me. All in the name of caution of course. |
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Xybirk said: Kinda is. It wasn't at first, but then you know.. yeah. zzzI can't help but feel like this thread is a continuation of the feminism thread. See, I agree with Nicole in saying Women shouldn't have to change just because of men, but.. If one group is too stubborn to do it, you should at least try so no harm comes to you instead of making a fuss, y'know? Simpler and safer like that. |
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Nicole said: RandomChampion said: Nicole said: So basically, what people are saying is. If you don't want to get raped, don't drink ever, don't go out at night, never meet new people and never wear skimpy clothes. What you want to do is take away any kind of freedom that women have by blaming them for when a man can't control himself. This is literally not what is being said by most if not all people (including OP) This is unimportant, the solution to stopping a huge amount of rapes has already been decided, we just stop men from drinking alcohol or going out at night. Seems perfectly fair to me. All in the name of caution of course. Banning alcohol is a good idea. Will never happen though. So in general people should be taught to not get drunk enough that they snap or pass out. |
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JamalKing said: Or being within 30m of a women without their express written permission This is also an option that could be considered. |
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Nicole said: RandomChampion said: Nicole said: So basically, what people are saying is. If you don't want to get raped, don't drink ever, don't go out at night, never meet new people and never wear skimpy clothes. What you want to do is take away any kind of freedom that women have by blaming them for when a man can't control himself. This is literally not what is being said by most if not all people (including OP) This is unimportant, the solution to stopping a huge amount of rapes has already been decided, we just stop men from drinking alcohol or going out at night. Seems perfectly fair to me. All in the name of caution of course. What real solutions to the problem would you advise then? |
Nicole said: RandomChampion said: Nicole said: So basically, what people are saying is. If you don't want to get raped, don't drink ever, don't go out at night, never meet new people and never wear skimpy clothes. What you want to do is take away any kind of freedom that women have by blaming them for when a man can't control himself. This is literally not what is being said by most if not all people (including OP) This is unimportant, the solution to stopping a huge amount of rapes has already been decided, we just stop men from drinking alcohol or going out at night. Seems perfectly fair to me. All in the name of caution of course. If you want to disregard anglo-american principles like that good luck trying to convince people that rape is a criminal offense to begin with. |
Shiratori99 said: Banning alcohol is a good idea. Will never happen though. So in general people should be taught to not get drunk enough that they snap or pass out. No, I don't want alcohol banned, I just want men to be banned from having any. I mean, men don't really want to rape someone? But with enough alcohol and those lonely dark alleyways, who knows what could happen if you case across a girl? So I'm merely saying that men should be more cautious and having them banned from alcohol would prevent a lot of problems. |
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