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Apr 14, 2013 4:02 AM

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Faith in humanity: -20%

I never thought most people on this forum would be assassins just waiting for the right moment to take an human life... Seriously, everyone, go to a doctor URGENTLY.
Apr 14, 2013 4:04 AM

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lupadim said:
Seriously, everyone, go to a doctor URGENTLY.

But I just got a physical 3 months ago.

I'm fine.
I'm dead. Don't come looking for me.
Apr 14, 2013 4:24 AM

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Nope :O I don't consider myself capable of doing such a thing plus I'd end up thinking about this horrible incident the whole time afterwards...
Apr 14, 2013 6:55 AM

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I was just suddently reminded of this (in relation to the guilt haunting the killer)
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
Apr 14, 2013 7:00 AM

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lupadim said:
Faith in humanity: -20%

I never thought most people on this forum would be assassins just waiting for the right moment to take an human life... Seriously, everyone, go to a doctor URGENTLY.


Murder is unethical, yes. But it doesn't mean it's inhumane.

Why don't people commit murder? Because of the consequences, whether they are moral or punishable consequences.

If there were no consequences I'd kill some people out there without a doubt.
~Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, it can achieve
Apr 14, 2013 7:06 AM

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Yes I would. I would kill the person slowly and watch them as they take their last breath. I would then stand in front of their cold and bruised body laughing. But that would never happen,sadly.
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Apr 14, 2013 7:06 AM

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Who says i can't kill someone without being found out? it's quite easy actually. Making a robbery etc has a lot more danger of getting caught than killing someone.

Anyway is not just about morals, is also about having a reason too. Why would i bother killing someone if it brings no benefit to me?
Wait a minute...the op is a little annoying with his thousand threads now that i think about it. So where are you from exactly?
Apr 14, 2013 7:24 AM

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Yes, I would, providing they fit my code. I would drug the individual with etorphine hydrochloride (M99) and then strap them to a table with plastic. I would decorate the room with pictures of things associated with the individual strapped to the table e.g. people whose lives had been ruined by him/her. Once everything is in place, I would wake up the individual and show him/her the pictures. Try to obtain a reason for why he/she did what he/she did. I would finish by stabbing the individual in the heart, watching his/her life slowly fade away. For closure, I would dismember his/her body and place the limbs into separate bags. I would then go out to sea with my personal boat and dump the bags into the sea.
Apr 14, 2013 7:33 AM

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Burna said:
Faith in humanity: -20%

I never thought most people on this forum would be assassins just waiting for the right moment to take an human life... Seriously, everyone, go to a doctor URGENTLY.
I seriously that if murder didn't have serious repercussions in our current society, a lot of people would be murderers. Even with our laws, there are still people who kill, what more if there's nothing to hold them back? Besides guilt-- that would be the only deterrent.
Apr 14, 2013 7:46 AM

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Lunaer said:
No, what is the point of killing someone? Better is torturing that person each day ;D


that's actually, a nice one..xDD
Apr 14, 2013 7:49 AM
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I would not kill anyone but just beat them a little there are some persons that get in my nerve :S
Apr 14, 2013 7:53 AM

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NeoAnkara said:
-Fuji- said:
Not yet unless someone take away someone very precious to me
Who are you? Anime character that swear revenge to other when they kill your family?


I agree with fuji. if someone would hurt my family i would hurt them too
Apr 14, 2013 8:02 AM
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lupadim said:
I would not kill anyone because an human's life is too precious to be thrown away like garbage.


Maybe you just got this line from an anime you recently watched.
Apr 14, 2013 8:20 AM

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Having moralistic values
only exists in anime

/demotive
sexual incest in nisomonogatari - no one bats an eye
romance incest in SAO - everyone loses their minds
Apr 14, 2013 8:21 AM

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Agony said:
lupadim said:
I would not kill anyone because an human's life is too precious to be thrown away like garbage.


Maybe you just got this line from an anime you recently watched.


No, I didn't, but what if I did? Is there a law that does not allow me to have an opinion based on some anime?
Apr 14, 2013 8:33 AM

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I'm tempted, there are a few people I really hate. But killing them would be an overreaction compared to what they did. Perhaps I'd save it for a really evil leader and make sure that they die in a gruesome way.
Apr 14, 2013 9:39 AM

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tl;dr

i assume you watched louis c.k. last night
Apr 14, 2013 9:55 AM

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No.
Apr 14, 2013 10:51 AM

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There are plenty of people that don't need to be alive. If it was Death Note style power (but without the many disadvantages of having a Death Note) I'd do it, I guess. But I can't, so OP is safe.
Apr 14, 2013 11:00 AM
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Seems suitable

Apr 14, 2013 11:26 AM

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yes i would
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Apr 14, 2013 11:41 AM

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Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.
Apr 14, 2013 11:53 AM

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No but there are people whom I'd never forgive. q_q.
Apr 14, 2013 11:54 AM

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lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.
Apr 14, 2013 12:01 PM
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TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.
Apr 14, 2013 3:13 PM

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No, not kill, that won't help anything. Tie them up! More fun for everyone.
Apr 14, 2013 3:25 PM

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elevenletters said:
Battlechili1 said:
TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.

Really?


See the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who isn't is the fact that thoughts stay thoughts in someone who is mentally ill thoughts turn into actions. Thinking about killing someone does not mean you need professional help. I'm sure almost everyone wishes they could kill someone at some point, doesn't mean they will. In fact they 99% of the time wont because if they did, we would probably be near extinction. Now if you constantly think about killing a specific person who you can contact, you make a plan, you deem your life not worth living if that person is alive, you buy knifes, guns. You ponder about it all the time and that person makes you extremely upset and this has been going on for a while then yes, that's when premeditated murder happens. And only then should someone seek medical help.

As for it being wrong to kill ANYONE, I have to disagree as self defense is an acception. If your life,or others lives are clearly is in danger, killing the threat is completely justifiable. Any other case I would agree that its wrong.
Apr 14, 2013 3:48 PM
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elevenletters said:
Battlechili1 said:
TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.

Really?

Yes. And before you ask, even the extremes apply. I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
Apr 14, 2013 3:49 PM

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lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


fuck you I am a doctor
Apr 14, 2013 3:51 PM

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Battlechili1 said:
Yes. And before you ask, even the extremes apply. I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
So, then the foundations of this world, indeed, nature and evolution itself is morally wrong? You have some insane morals.
Apr 14, 2013 4:51 PM

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EternalFusion said:
elevenletters said:
Battlechili1 said:
TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.

Really?


See the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who isn't is the fact that thoughts stay thoughts in someone who is mentally ill thoughts turn into actions. Thinking about killing someone does not mean you need professional help. I'm sure almost everyone wishes they could kill someone at some point, doesn't mean they will. In fact they 99% of the time wont because if they did, we would probably be near extinction. Now if you constantly think about killing a specific person who you can contact, you make a plan, you deem your life not worth living if that person is alive, you buy knifes, guns. You ponder about it all the time and that person makes you extremely upset and this has been going on for a while then yes, that's when premeditated murder happens. And only then should someone seek medical help.

As for it being wrong to kill ANYONE, I have to disagree as self defense is an acception. If your life,or others lives are clearly is in danger, killing the threat is completely justifiable. Any other case I would agree that its wrong.


I laugh at the face of people like you who need insults to structure the arguments, hahaha
Apr 14, 2013 4:53 PM

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lupadim said:
EternalFusion said:
elevenletters said:
Battlechili1 said:
TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.

Really?


See the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who isn't is the fact that thoughts stay thoughts in someone who is mentally ill thoughts turn into actions. Thinking about killing someone does not mean you need professional help. I'm sure almost everyone wishes they could kill someone at some point, doesn't mean they will. In fact they 99% of the time wont because if they did, we would probably be near extinction. Now if you constantly think about killing a specific person who you can contact, you make a plan, you deem your life not worth living if that person is alive, you buy knifes, guns. You ponder about it all the time and that person makes you extremely upset and this has been going on for a while then yes, that's when premeditated murder happens. And only then should someone seek medical help.

As for it being wrong to kill ANYONE, I have to disagree as self defense is an acception. If your life,or others lives are clearly is in danger, killing the threat is completely justifiable. Any other case I would agree that its wrong.


I laugh at the face of people like you who need insults to structure the arguments, hahaha


me?
Apr 14, 2013 4:56 PM

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EternalFusion said:
lupadim said:
EternalFusion said:
elevenletters said:
Battlechili1 said:
TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.

Really?


See the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who isn't is the fact that thoughts stay thoughts in someone who is mentally ill thoughts turn into actions. Thinking about killing someone does not mean you need professional help. I'm sure almost everyone wishes they could kill someone at some point, doesn't mean they will. In fact they 99% of the time wont because if they did, we would probably be near extinction. Now if you constantly think about killing a specific person who you can contact, you make a plan, you deem your life not worth living if that person is alive, you buy knifes, guns. You ponder about it all the time and that person makes you extremely upset and this has been going on for a while then yes, that's when premeditated murder happens. And only then should someone seek medical help.

As for it being wrong to kill ANYONE, I have to disagree as self defense is an acception. If your life,or others lives are clearly is in danger, killing the threat is completely justifiable. Any other case I would agree that its wrong.


I laugh at the face of people like you who need insults to structure the arguments, hahaha


me?


Of course not! I quoted your answer because I am talking with Obama. Do you wanna kill me now?

Baman said:
Battlechili1 said:
Yes. And before you ask, even the extremes apply. I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
So, then the foundations of this world, indeed, nature and evolution itself is morally wrong? You have some insane morals.


Don't compare humans with wild animals, I hate people that do that, it's like "Oh, some animals are gay so it is 100% normal for humans to be gay and everyone should try it", using this concept cannibalism should be acceptable. But as some people here think that killing is OK them cannibalism is probably normal for those people.
Apr 14, 2013 5:11 PM

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lupadim said:
Don't compare humans with wild animals, I hate people that do that, it's like "Oh, some animals are gay so it is 100% normal for humans to be gay and everyone should try it", using this concept cannibalism should be acceptable. But as some people here think that killing is OK them cannibalism is probably normal for those people.
Well, for your information we are animals. No matter how much our cultural evolution has distanced ourselves from the lesser species, we can't forget that we used to be like them too, and we evolved by the survival of the fittest just like any other creature.

And by this basic, natural state that lacks any fanciful notions of morality, killing just the price of survival. All our morals and ethics are just make-believe ideas we've invented because we had too much time on our hands when we no longer had to fight for our survival all the time.

Your argument also implies that you lack understanding of morality versus legality, and the idea of accepting prevailing societal norms and values as a means of cooperation and adaption and not because you're deluding yourself that these morals are "right".
Apr 14, 2013 5:12 PM

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lupadim said:
EternalFusion said:
lupadim said:
EternalFusion said:
elevenletters said:
Battlechili1 said:
TowardsTheStars said:
lupadim said:
Everyone who answered "yes", go to a doctor, you are saying that you plan to kill people and is just waiting for the right chance basically. This is not healthy, what is the difference between you that said yes and assassins or serial killers? The difference is that assassins and serial killers had their chance and you still didn't yet.


Stupidest thing I've read in a while.

They aren't saying that they plan to kill people.
While it wasn't written right, I'd have to agree that it is always wrong to kill people, no matter who it is, and that no one should kill.

Really?


See the difference between someone who is mentally ill and someone who isn't is the fact that thoughts stay thoughts in someone who is mentally ill thoughts turn into actions. Thinking about killing someone does not mean you need professional help. I'm sure almost everyone wishes they could kill someone at some point, doesn't mean they will. In fact they 99% of the time wont because if they did, we would probably be near extinction. Now if you constantly think about killing a specific person who you can contact, you make a plan, you deem your life not worth living if that person is alive, you buy knifes, guns. You ponder about it all the time and that person makes you extremely upset and this has been going on for a while then yes, that's when premeditated murder happens. And only then should someone seek medical help.

As for it being wrong to kill ANYONE, I have to disagree as self defense is an acception. If your life,or others lives are clearly is in danger, killing the threat is completely justifiable. Any other case I would agree that its wrong.


I laugh at the face of people like you who need insults to structure the arguments, hahaha


me?


Of course not! I quoted your answer because I am talking with Obama. Do you wanna kill me now?

Baman said:
Battlechili1 said:
Yes. And before you ask, even the extremes apply. I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
So, then the foundations of this world, indeed, nature and evolution itself is morally wrong? You have some insane morals.


Don't compare humans with wild animals, I hate people that do that, it's like "Oh, some animals are gay so it is 100% normal for humans to be gay and everyone should try it", using this concept cannibalism should be acceptable. But as some people here think that killing is OK them cannibalism is probably normal for those people.




I didn't insult anyone. Except maybe you but its your fault if your reading comprehension is sub-par and you misread what I said as an insult. But I am insulting you right now because you just open yourself up to it by constantly being hypocritical and lacking decent debate skills.
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Baman said:
lupadim said:
Don't compare humans with wild animals, I hate people that do that, it's like "Oh, some animals are gay so it is 100% normal for humans to be gay and everyone should try it", using this concept cannibalism should be acceptable. But as some people here think that killing is OK them cannibalism is probably normal for those people.
Well, for your information we are animals. No matter how much our cultural evolution has distanced ourselves from the lesser species, we can't forget that we used to be like them too, and we evolved by the survival of the fittest just like any other creature.

And by this basic, natural state that lacks any fanciful notions of morality, killing just the price of survival. All our morals and ethics are just make-believe ideas we've invented because we had too much time on our hands when we no longer had to fight for our survival all the time.

Your argument also implies that you lack understanding of morality versus legality, and the idea of accepting prevailing societal norms and values as a means of cooperation and adaption and not because you're deluding yourself that these morals are "right".


I never said humans are not animals, I said humans are not WILD animals, are you friend of the troll above me?
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lupadim said:
I never said humans are not animals, I said humans are not WILD animals, are you friend of the troll above me?
Haha, nice way of ignoring the actual argument.
Apr 14, 2013 6:12 PM

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lupadim said:
If you could, one time, kill anyone you wish without being found by the police and all, would you? Explaining better: You would simply kill this person and thats all, no one would find out. She will simply die, like if her name was written in an death note.

I would not kill anyone because an human's life is too precious to be thrown away like garbage.


Of course. I would take the lives of known murderers,terrorists, rapists, warlords and soldiers in other countries who torture civilians and dictators.
Apr 14, 2013 7:13 PM

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Lupadim I have something for you to think about.
Try to see things from a different perspective, don't think of it as "no one has the right to kill another person". Think of it as "everyone has the capability to kill another human".

Let's face reality, people are killed, all the time for all kind of reasons, from personal to idealistic or even for survival.
Even if you believe that no one should kill, it will still happen. What's the point of criticizing others for (potentially) being murderers? And does it mean that they will surely become such thing?
What if it was you the person being strangled and you suddenly have the chance to kill the person that is trying to kill you? There is no time to do anything else and killing is the only way you can live. Would you just let yourself be killed in order to preserve your utopic idea of life? Or do you think that your true human side would come out and you'll take the chance to survive?

I've deeply hated some people and the thought of killing them has crossed my mind, but I never did it. And I don't feel that way anymore, right now I wouldn't kill anyone. It's not like I ever had the chance, but even if I had had it, I think I wouldn't have done it either.

About humans not being wild animals, what happens when you take a human to the extreme, when all ideals, morals and even reason disappear and act purely by instinct or emotion? How different are we from "wild animals"?

Some people deserve to die and you're right, I don't have the right to decide who lives and who doesn't, but I do have the capability (at least potentially), so it really doesn't matter whether I have that right or not, I can do it anyway.

Would I kill? No, but not because I believe life is precious, simply because I don't dare do so. Even if there are no consequences for me and it was as simple as pushing a button I'll still have the guilt and that prevents me from doing so. I'd have to be very convinced that it's necessary or personally and emotionally affected to kill someone. And the latter one is a situation a lot of people go through all around the world everyday, and most of them are not killers.

And one last thing, imprisoning someone is not that much different from killing. If you kill you take away a life, and if you imprison you take away freedom. What's the point of life if there's no freedom? Inmates might as well kill themselves if they know they're gonna be in prison for the rest of their lives, deprived from the most basic type of freedom and many times they do.
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This really a thread?

Pfft, hell no.
Apr 14, 2013 7:27 PM

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About humans not being wild animals, what happens when you take a human to the extreme, when all ideals, morals and even reason disappear and act purely by instinct or emotion? How different are we from "wild animals"?
Exactly. We are all wild animals at heart, it is only the societies and moralities we have made that keeps us from being anything but particularly clever, savage animals.
And a lot of the time we even use cultural constructs to make excuses and rationalise our savage behaviour.
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Baman said:
Battlechili1 said:
Yes. And before you ask, even the extremes apply. I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
So, then the foundations of this world, indeed, nature and evolution itself is morally wrong? You have some insane morals.

Indeed.
The way I see it, humans are not the same as nature. In nature, there is no morality and no thinking. Humans have the capability to form morals and to think. Therefore, we should use our minds and our morals. How does evolution apply? One need not kill in order to evolve.
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if it was legal i would kill a shit ton of people

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Baman said:
Yaver said:
About humans not being wild animals, what happens when you take a human to the extreme, when all ideals, morals and even reason disappear and act purely by instinct or emotion? How different are we from "wild animals"?
Exactly. We are all wild animals at heart, it is only the societies and moralities we have made that keeps us from being anything but particularly clever, savage animals.
And a lot of the time we even use cultural constructs to make excuses and rationalise our savage behaviour.

And since we have societies and morals, we should put them to use.
And yes, oftentimes humans try to rationalize their savage behavior.
However, humans have the ability to rationalize. That puts us above wild animals, and allows us to form such morals and societies that have determined killing other human beings as wrong.
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I would like to see your response to this, Lupadim, so please do indulge me.

You have the chance to kill an extremely notorious mass murderer/rapist/drug lord who you know has the ability and intention to go on murdering and raping for a long time. But you don't have the opportunity to arrest him or anything, you just know that you can kill him without consequence. What do you do? Is his life still "precious" after he has ruined so many others?
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Battlechili1 said:
I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
Is killing a human being by inaction also wrong? For example, if someone is getting killed, and you have the ability to stop it without risking your own life.
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katsucats said:
Battlechili1 said:
I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
Is killing a human being by inaction also wrong? For example, if someone is getting killed, and you have the ability to stop it without risking your own life.

In my eyes, yes, but not as wrong as directly killing someone. Though I do believe one should go so far as to risk their own lives to save another.
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I would like to see your response to this, Lupadim, so please do indulge me.

You have the chance to kill an extremely notorious mass murderer/rapist/drug lord who you know has the ability and intention to go on murdering and raping for a long time. But you don't have the opportunity to arrest him or anything, you just know that you can kill him without consequence. What do you do? Is his life still "precious" after he has ruined so many others?

I'd say yes. I say all lives are precious. He may have the chance to kill another, but killing him would still be committing a wrong because it involves killing.
I think the anime Trigun actually took a look at this since Vash the Stampede's philosophy was to not kill.
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Battlechili1 said:
katsucats said:
Battlechili1 said:
I think any human killing another human is always committing a wrong, and thus it is always morally wrong to kill another human being.
Is killing a human being by inaction also wrong? For example, if someone is getting killed, and you have the ability to stop it without risking your own life.
In my eyes, yes, but not as wrong as directly killing someone. Though I do believe one should go so far as to risk their own lives to save another.
So to reiterate, just to be sure, suppose you have anti-laser gloves on, and standing next to you is a person in direct path of a laser that will fire once for 5 seconds and if it hits, it will kill him on contact. There are 2 scenarios:

1. You have your hand stretched out in front of you by default, and then the laser fires. If you move your hand, the person dies. If you don't move, he lives.

2. You have you hand by your side, and hear the laser counting down. If you move your hand forward, the person lives. If you don't move, then he dies.

So would you say, then, that letting the person die in #2 is less wrong than letting him die in #1?
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Apr 14, 2013 10:06 PM

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Battlechili1 said:
Scrodulus said:
You have the chance to kill an extremely notorious mass murderer/rapist/drug lord who you know has the ability and intention to go on murdering and raping for a long time. What do you do? Is his life still "precious" after he has ruined so many others?

I'd say yes. I say all lives are precious. He may have the chance to kill another, but killing him would still be committing a wrong because it involves killing.
Let me give you another one (because it's fun):

You're a detective that has wandered onto a SAW set gone wrong. In front of you is a wheel contraption where a person is tied to 1 end and 5 people tied to the other end. Because of wheel bearings, the wheel only has 2 possible positions, with the people tied to either the left or right side. A chainsaw (that's impossible to disarm) is coming down onto the end where the 5 people are tied and will rip them all to shreds in about 20 seconds.

If you spin the wheel, then only 1 person will be killed, however it will be by your determination.

If you don't spin the wheel, then 5 people will die, however it will not be directly by your determination.

Is it still wrong to spin the wheel?
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Apr 14, 2013 10:22 PM

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^Natch, I'll decide the lifeboat scenario if I ever get there. :P
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