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ViciLockhart said: AllenNoah said: (Seriously is Beth dead or not? If she isn't, then I lose faith in Badd as a mage, since that means he couldn't kill her with a direct hit that she showed no ability to defend against. But if she isn't then I lose faith in Mashima as a writer, since that means he decided that the post-battle camp scene would be better served focusing on fanservice than the guild's reaction to a dead member). Beth ( and few other ppl from LS as well) should take a direct hit from it attack . and as you say if they survive it will be really show Badd as one of the 12 strongest wizards that he's attack can be stop by average mage that isn't even defend from it .. if they dead well i agree as well because it shows MH and LS that they don't even care about fallen members ... Well we haven't seen Beth since that attack have we? |
AllenNoah said: I think the main issue with Badd and DiMaria is that there was an opportunity to fight against legitimate opponents (Kagura and Lyon, two swordswomen and two mages that build things to fight), but instead DiMaria opted for fanservice and Badd crouched on a roof like he was Spider-Man casting magic missiles of dubious effectiveness (Seriously is Beth dead or not? If she isn't, then I lose faith in Badd as a mage, since that means he couldn't kill her with a direct hit that she showed no ability to defend against. But if she isn't then I lose faith in Mashima as a writer, since that means he decided that the post-battle camp scene would be better served focusing on fanservice than the guild's reaction to a dead member). Well, Mashima already wasted a lot of panels with fan-service that should be enough to lose some faith on him and the problem with the 2Spriggans fights was simply because it had no FT members there, Mashima simply doesn't like to focus on fights that doesn't have any FT member and that's it, now just by having Wendy there the fight will be completely different even though Wendy shouldn't be that strong at all. As for Wahl killing Beth, unless I see some of her members falling off or being heavily damaged like Serena is, she was definitely saved off-panel by someone, there's just no way she died and no one cared about it OR she was able to defend that, hell I don't even remember her magic, I mean Wahl just took two direct hits from Laxus and he still fighting, there's no way he can't beat someone like Beth but is able to trade punches with fucking Laxus, Mashima just won't kill the good characters even if this is a war, unless Acnologia appears, then it's a different story. |
-ZET- said: AllenNoah said: I think the main issue with Badd and DiMaria is that there was an opportunity to fight against legitimate opponents (Kagura and Lyon, two swordswomen and two mages that build things to fight), but instead DiMaria opted for fanservice and Badd crouched on a roof like he was Spider-Man casting magic missiles of dubious effectiveness (Seriously is Beth dead or not? If she isn't, then I lose faith in Badd as a mage, since that means he couldn't kill her with a direct hit that she showed no ability to defend against. But if she isn't then I lose faith in Mashima as a writer, since that means he decided that the post-battle camp scene would be better served focusing on fanservice than the guild's reaction to a dead member). Well, Mashima already wasted a lot of panels with fan-service that should be enough to lose some faith on him and the problem with the 2Spriggans fights was simply because it had no FT members there, Mashima simply doesn't like to focus on fights that doesn't have any FT member and that's it, now just by having Wendy there the fight will be completely different even though Wendy shouldn't be that strong at all. Fair enough. It's kinda funny. When I first saw the other guilds join the battle I thought they were there so that the Spriggan could win against people without FT suffering a loss, but it seems Mashima's afraid to even have them fight. -ZET- said: As for Wahl killing Beth, unless I see some of her members falling off or being heavily damaged like Serena is, she was definitely saved off-panel by someone, there's just no way she died and no one cared about it OR she was able to defend that, hell I don't even remember her magic, I mean Wahl just took two direct hits from Laxus and he still fighting, there's no way he can't beat someone like Beth but is able to trade punches with fucking Laxus, Mashima just won't kill the good characters even if this is a war, unless Acnologia appears, then it's a different story. Carrots. I am not even kidding. Who knows maybe she trained and can use Lettuce Magic to protect herself now. |
Darklight0303 said: ViciLockhart said: Beth ( and few other ppl from LS as well) should take a direct hit from it attack . and as you say if they survive it will be really show Badd as one of the 12 strongest wizards that he's attack can be stop by average mage that isn't even defend from it .. if they dead well i agree as well because it shows MH and LS that they don't even care about fallen members ... Well we haven't seen Beth since that attack have we? As someone who's read Bleach and Naruto, that doesn't mean jack until I see a body or hear a mention. |
-ZET- said: AllenNoah said: I think the main issue with Badd and DiMaria is that there was an opportunity to fight against legitimate opponents (Kagura and Lyon, two swordswomen and two mages that build things to fight), but instead DiMaria opted for fanservice and Badd crouched on a roof like he was Spider-Man casting magic missiles of dubious effectiveness (Seriously is Beth dead or not? If she isn't, then I lose faith in Badd as a mage, since that means he couldn't kill her with a direct hit that she showed no ability to defend against. But if she isn't then I lose faith in Mashima as a writer, since that means he decided that the post-battle camp scene would be better served focusing on fanservice than the guild's reaction to a dead member). Well, Mashima already wasted a lot of panels with fan-service that should be enough to lose some faith on him and the problem with the 2Spriggans fights was simply because it had no FT members there, Mashima simply doesn't like to focus on fights that doesn't have any FT member and that's it, now just by having Wendy there the fight will be completely different even though Wendy shouldn't be that strong at all. As for Wahl killing Beth, unless I see some of her members falling off or being heavily damaged like Serena is, she was definitely saved off-panel by someone, there's just no way she died and no one cared about it OR she was able to defend that, hell I don't even remember her magic, I mean Wahl just took two direct hits from Laxus and he still fighting, there's no way he can't beat someone like Beth but is able to trade punches with fucking Laxus, Mashima just won't kill the good characters even if this is a war, unless Acnologia appears, then it's a different story. How is Wendy not strong? She can go Dragon Force at will and defeated one of the Nine Demon Gates with ease using that form without any training. She's one of the main Five Characters, of course she will keep getting stronger like the rest of the cast. She's one of the strongest wizards on the battlefield right now because of her ability to use Dragon Force. |
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Aiko_Hiroshi said: How is Wendy not strong? She can go Dragon Force at will and defeated one of the Nine Demon Gates with ease using that form without any training. She's one of the main Five Characters, of course she will keep getting stronger like the rest of the cast. She's one of the strongest wizards on the battlefield right now because of her ability to use Dragon Force. She's strong, but not THAT strong, remember that even Erza struggled against Ajeel who I guess was the weakest of the 12, Wendy and Sherria shouldn't be enough to defeat Dimaria at all, they need Erza+Kagura to join the party, or Dimaria just doesn't fit in the power-level of the 12. I mean, I can understand that dragonforce boost a lot of magical power but if that is enough to make Wendy beat Dimaria, then I don't know what will happen when current Natsu or Laxus activate theirs. |
-ZET- said: Aiko_Hiroshi said: How is Wendy not strong? She can go Dragon Force at will and defeated one of the Nine Demon Gates with ease using that form without any training. She's one of the main Five Characters, of course she will keep getting stronger like the rest of the cast. She's one of the strongest wizards on the battlefield right now because of her ability to use Dragon Force. She's strong, but not THAT strong, remember that even Erza struggled against Ajeel who I guess was the weakest of the 12, Wendy and Sherria shouldn't be enough to defeat Dimaria at all, they need Erza+Kagura to join the party, or Dimaria just doesn't fit in the power-level of the 12. I mean, I can understand that dragonforce boost a lot of magical power but if that is enough to make Wendy beat Dimaria, then I don't know what will happen when current Natsu or Laxus activate theirs. Honestly a fully trained up Dragon Force mode like Wendy's hasn't been explored in terms of the extent of its abilities. We haven't seen Wendy use it in a prolonged battle since the timeskip began (Because everything up to this point was skirmishes). All I'm saying is that we have no idea about just how strong the transformation makes her right now, so we'll have to wait and see how well she fares against Dimaria. I mean honestly we know nothing about Dimaria at all besides the fact she likes to strip clothes :p |
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| Not to mention the Twin Dragons had Dragon Force. Didn't seem to help them. Although it does raise the question of why Future Rogue didn't go DF. |
| When it comes to FT members, I've learned enough by now to not pay attention to death flags. So it should be DiMaria vs. Wendy, Sherria, Kagura and Erza now. That should work. Gajeel & Levy- nice little moment there. Liked Freed's new hairstyle:) So he's not out yet. We have Makarov, Mavis, Lucy, Cana and Freed in the guild. Is that enough to stop 2 Spriggans. Probably not. Back to the eastern front, after giving that speech on how "It's painful to lose a comrade", August just leaves Serena for dead. And finally the most important part. LAXUS. I wondered how he didn't have any lasting effects from sucking up the poison. Now I know. That's probably why he was rarely seen while at Blue Pegasus. Laxus vs. Wahl should be interesting. what bothers me is that we never get to see Laxus at full power. During Dragon invasion he'd just fought a long battle and was badly injured. In Tartaros he twoshotted Tempesta and then got poisoned and was out for the rest of the arc. Now he's suffering from lasting damage from the poisoning. Of the FT members right now he's the only one who can solo a Spriggan. It's overall some less than good writing. If he hadn't suffered this damage it would have been plot armour. Now that he has, it's deliberate destruction of a powerful character |
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-ZET- said: I mean last week if we ignore the Acnologia effect, it literally was a chapter of one Spriggan taking the TOP4 WS like it was nothing, and I doubt God Serena was that stronger compared to other Spriggans if his fate was only to be destroyed by Acnologia 5 pages later, we already knew that no one can stand against Acnologia even Zeref stated that. God Serena was strongest man on Ishgar. He was built up as THE strongest character on Spriggan side. And the only reason he got to trash around others was to hype it up when Acnologia oneshots him for no reason. Right now both Dimaria and Wahl are in the same position as Ajeel was in the last page of chapter 446 when Natsu punched his face, everyone freaked out and said that Ajeel was already done and the Spriggans are just a bunch of overrated, yet the guy easily recovered and almost killed Erza and just by that "almost" some people actually think he had delivered his hype. You mean the same Ajeel who got teamrocketed by FUCKING BISCA and "Because she's Erza"????....Yeah...good comparison mate. Really adds confidence. "This is war, we need some deaths" Sure but this is also "Fairy Tail" where good guys win fights only by shouting "FRIENDSHIP", so please wake up and noticed that already, there's no way the author will suddenly change the manga and start killing people left and right, what he can do is kill some side characters like Makarov simply because right now the guy is just useless and since Phantom Lord arc Makarov has always been on the verge of death. No. Not deaths. IMPACT. Look at Tartaros arc. Look at what the villains accomplished by this point into that arc. Look at how threatening and DANGEROUS each of villains of Tartaros was. Now look at Spriggans who had more time spent on being comedic gags than actually DOING anything. Aiko_Hiroshi said: -ZET- said: She's strong, but not THAT strong, remember that even Erza struggled against Ajeel who I guess was the weakest of the 12, Wendy and Sherria shouldn't be enough to defeat Dimaria at all, they need Erza+Kagura to join the party, or Dimaria just doesn't fit in the power-level of the 12. I mean, I can understand that dragonforce boost a lot of magical power but if that is enough to make Wendy beat Dimaria, then I don't know what will happen when current Natsu or Laxus activate theirs. Honestly a fully trained up Dragon Force mode like Wendy's hasn't been explored in terms of the extent of its abilities. We haven't seen Wendy use it in a prolonged battle since the timeskip began (Because everything up to this point was skirmishes). All I'm saying is that we have no idea about just how strong the transformation makes her right now, so we'll have to wait and see how well she fares against Dimaria. I mean honestly we know nothing about Dimaria at all besides the fact she likes to strip clothes :p Wendy even at her strongest should NOT be able to punch "strongest beings on continent" in the face like it was nothing. Laxus, even if he is one of stronger members, still got shitted on by Jura and Spriggans were all built up to be as someone above Jura's level. |
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| It honestly sounds like you have unrealistic expectations of the power levels. This is Fairy Tail for gods sake. The strongest fucking characters have gotten their faces punched in due to things like over confidence and power ups from the main characters. I have seen nothing from the Spriggans that suggests the main characters at their strongest can't land a single attack, especially from something like Dragon Force (Only time I saw Dragon Force be useless was from the Twin Dragons). That is overhyping something to the point of ridiculousness. Are the Spriggins individually stronger than most of the other characters? Most Definitely. They can still get hurt though (They're not omnipotent and they're WAY too over confident) and having a bunch of main characters face them at the same time puts them at a disadvantage. Also just let me point out the only reason Wendy was able to land that kick without being attacked back was because it was a SNEAK attack at super high speed using Dragon Force. |
Aiko_HiroshiFeb 1, 2016 10:51 PM
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| Complains, complains, complains. First Beth, didn't she get saved by Kaguya slicing up that missle? Have you read that chapter? So she was hit by that. Wendy is strong, can she defeat DiMaria alone? No. The fact that she was able to kick her, if you remember in Tartaros arc, against Ezel, when in DF mode, she was really fast, or you forget that? And its been a year since then. Now this me back, to something I said regarding the dragon slayers that had dragons inside them... Natsu like Wendy, could only use DF if they ate a large concentration of magic, now Wendy can at will, Natsu and the rest most likely can too. And this happened after the dragons left their bodies, not only that but, their hearing and smelling senses increased, a feat that we never saw before from them (Natsu and Gajeel hearing from miles away like Cobra can). Fai said: Wendy even at her strongest should NOT be able to punch "strongest beings on continent" in the face like it was nothing. Laxus, even if he is one of stronger members, still got shitted on by Jura and Spriggans were all built up to be as someone above Jura's level. What are you even saying? It's like DiMaria is the most powerful being in the world? What? Look, they are strong, based on MP power, as some people sensed that already, but they're not some immortal being. Dragon Slayers have one of the most powerful magic in this series, explained above why Wendy can do stuff like that (Maybe it should've been more detalied? Point is we saw her moving really fast when she used DF for the first time, and even she said that she can control the air around her). |
metsujinFeb 1, 2016 11:53 PM
| All you people who are bothered by Wendy being able to punch Dimaria mustn't have noticed that even using Dragon Force there she did little more than just annoy her. Dimaria was too focused on killing Sherria and in her pride, made the rookie mistake of not paying attention to her surroundings. But it's true that "Valkyrie" hasn't done much more than offer us some unwanted fanservice. We haven't seen enough of the Spriggans to start saying "Ugh. They were overhyped. They're actually all weak as hell." In fact, from what little we have seen, they are far from weak. Although, with Acnologia now in the picture, everyone and everything else seem like sideshows. |
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| That Wendy kick though |
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metsujin said: First Beth, didn't she get saved by Kaguya slicing up that missle? Have you read that chapter? No. Beth was already hit when Kagura took the missiles down. |
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Evarinya said: metsujin said: First Beth, didn't she get saved by Kaguya slicing up that missle? Have you read that chapter? No. Beth was already hit when Kagura took the missiles down. My mistake then, could've sworn she was close to Kagura, oh well. |
| Poor Chelia. That Dragon Force kick though! And Laxus's condition is gonna be his undoing. Someone jog my memory. Who's Beth again? |
Bluazing said: Poor Chelia. That Dragon Force kick though! And Laxus's condition is gonna be his undoing. Someone jog my memory. Who's Beth again? Farm girl looking girl in Kagura's guild |
Aiko_Hiroshi said: It honestly sounds like you have unrealistic expectations of the power levels. This is Fairy Tail for gods sake. The strongest fucking characters have gotten their faces punched in due to things like over confidence and power ups from the main characters. I have seen nothing from the Spriggans that suggests the main characters at their strongest can't land a single attack, especially from something like Dragon Force (Only time I saw Dragon Force be useless was from the Twin Dragons). That is overhyping something to the point of ridiculousness. Are the Spriggins individually stronger than most of the other characters? Most Definitely. They can still get hurt though (They're not omnipotent and they're WAY too over confident) and having a bunch of main characters face them at the same time puts them at a disadvantage. Also just let me point out the only reason Wendy was able to land that kick without being attacked back was because it was a SNEAK attack at super high speed using Dragon Force. A brilliant story arcs that make sense like Tartaros tend to raise expectations. Even with lowered expectations(which is not hard after gray gets whitewashed, Natsu punches out a god, Brandish starts barking like a dog and Lucy loses any and all story relevance so her mother can be used as random plot device) this is shaping up to be as dumb as tenrou and gmg. Which both are the worst arcs in FT. |
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Chaos_Harbinger said: God Serena definitely wasn't the strongest in the Spriggans. I would say he was in the middle, I think. As for this week's chapter, it was like any other. At this point of time, every Spriggan or new antagonist Mashima will introduce will feel insignificant in front of Zeref and Acnologia. But I'm still hoping the Spriggans will somehow redeem themselves. Yeah. I agree. The Spriggans haven't really done anything much yet, have they? We've only really seen Ajeel in a fight. Serena trashed Ishgar's top 4 wizard saints and then got oneshotted by Acnologia. I'll say their defeats were done quite well. It's only Brandish whose portrayal I found disappointing. But she's a very complex character. We have only seen glimpses of Bradman and August's powers and those were pretty great. As for Invel, Jacob and Neinhart, we don't know what they can do. There are 2 more yet to be introduced. So I'm not going to judge them yet. This week's chapter was mostly a setup. Hopefully we get to see some good fights next. |
| "There's your truth and there's my truth. As for the Universal Truth - it doesn't exist." |
| I think acnologia will be the final boss of FT and Zeref, Natsu and the other dragon slayers will have to defeat him together. I don't think Zeref is evil he is probably doing all this just to kill acnologia for some reason. I think it was mentioned a few chapters earlier that he helped open that gate to try and defeat acnologia. Idk why acnologia is such big a threat though. He would have been a threat if dragons were alive but now that the dragons are all dead they should just leave him alone because he has no interest in humans. Moreover the only person he killed was serena. He let the other humans live. |
omeg4 said: I think acnologia will be the final boss of FT and Zeref, Natsu and the other dragon slayers will have to defeat him together. I don't think Zeref is evil he is probably doing all this just to kill acnologia for some reason. I think it was mentioned a few chapters earlier that he helped open that gate to try and defeat acnologia. Idk why acnologia is such big a threat though. He would have been a threat if dragons were alive but now that the dragons are all dead they should just leave him alone because he has no interest in humans. Moreover the only person he killed was serena. He let the other humans live. The reasoning for that last bit is simple. He wants to eliminate all Dragon slayers. Everyone else is as relevant as specks of dust to him. |
Fai said: God Serena was strongest man on Ishgar. He was built up as THE strongest character on Spriggan side. And the only reason he got to trash around others was to hype it up when Acnologia oneshots him for no reason. When exactly Serena was build as the strongest on Spriggan side? Solely because he has 8DS Lachrymas?AFAIK, we have yet to see the power of the others to judge Serena like that, just because the guy was a dragon-slayer doesn't put him easily above the others, otherwise why would August be hyped to that extent, before the actual fight Serena had no hype built whatsoever but August had it, I don't know where you got that Serena was the strongest there... By the time Ajeel had been shot by Jupiter he had already blocked it once and took 2 or 3 direct swings from Erza(not because she's Erza but because he got cocky) and Erza didn't even solo'd the guy, Mashima clearly showed she was in danger there and shouldn't be able to solo him yet you compare that to the Kyouka fight, sure. Who in a RELEVANT meaning way died in Tartaros? Some old guys that we've never heard about and suddenly became more important for the plot,Silver being the only death in Tartaros that had any impact,Igneel was killed by Acnologia so don't make it sound like Tararos was the one behind it, heck Mard Geer didn't even knew that Natsu is E.N.D, talk about villains overhyping themselves but in reality they didn't knew shit, not to mention I can't remember a single character from Tartaros having an interesting personality, everyone is just crazy to fight or kill, just like Laxus back in the dark era. If anything I don't know how can you take Tartaros fake drama serious when they were threating to wipe out magic of the entire continent but funny enough only Fairy Tail and some minor help from Sabertooth cared about it, the TOP4 WS didn't even wasted their time with it because they knew Tartaros wasn't worth of it, YET here we have around 7Guilds plus the 4TOP WS making an alliance to beat only 12Wizards, this is how you properly make a drama that the bad guys are really something this time. "They didn't do anything yet", we don't know their strategies, the only thing we know about them is their objective to achieve Fairy Heart, also Zeref said back then to Makarov that "some" of the 12 are hard to control, so I take that as if a lot of the Spriggans don't really like to fight that much at all and they're not demons who are solely made for destruction, if killing everyone in sight was the case then Zeref is the one to blame here since the guy could just go in the front line and pretty much kill everyone in the way and not even Acnologia would stop it since he's immortal. Deaths will probably come in this arc sooner or later, whatever if you like to wait or not, please just pay attention that Mashima is throwing fan-service panels in the middle of the war, you really think this will suddenly change to some cold-blood war? And just like some people are saying, how can you even think Wendy in DS mode shouldn't even be able to hit Dimaria, Wendy might be super-young, that doesn't remove the fact she still have DS magic, not to mention, it was a sneaky-attack and Dimaria was focusing on Sherria, as powerfull as I think the Valkyrie is, Wendy shouldn't be that weaker compared to her to the point she can't even land a hit. |
She should be dead. Mashima doesn't really hesitate to kill off fodder characters. But we haven't seen Wahl's attacks actually kill anyone. The Raijinshuu survived his proxy bomb and Ichiya wasn't killed by the anti-matter cannon even though Christina was totalled. Plot armour + poor writing? AllenNoah said: As someone who's read Bleach and Naruto, that doesn't mean jack until I see a body or hear a mention. It's absurd that there'd be no casualties in a war. Plenty of fodder got killed offscreen in the war in Naruto. LS and MH's behaviour is off though. That's definitely poor writing. |
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AllenNoah said: Jarjaxle said: Does he always Voice Characters that Die in the? That is what i am getting from your review No, just a rather famous one. OK thanks...have to check...need keep up with the Anime Common Knowledge. |
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Lucy-is-onemagic said: punching a god was okay. Because he used a little bit of his fire-dragon-king-mode (the sealed magic in his arm. That's what my thought.) and the whitewashing of gray, it was just part of the avatar arc. Because Gray became aware of the devil slaying magic that's why she asked Porlyusica to heal her. Too bad it was an off-screen scene. Those two are okay. Okay just sayin. THat wasn't even a real god. IT was just a summon that was a bit bigger than the Celestial Spirit King. The only real god that's performed as one so far is Ankhseram. |
Darklight0303Feb 2, 2016 5:41 AM
Chaos_Harbinger said: Evarinya said: Yeah. I agree. The Spriggans haven't really done anything much yet, have they? We've only really seen Ajeel in a fight. Serena trashed Ishgar's top 4 wizard saints and then got oneshotted by Acnologia. I'll say their defeats were done quite well. It's only Brandish whose portrayal I found disappointing. But she's a very complex character. We have only seen glimpses of Bradman and August's powers and those were pretty great. As for Invel, Jacob and Neinhart, we don't know what they can do. There are 2 more yet to be introduced. So I'm not going to judge them yet. This week's chapter was mostly a setup. Hopefully we get to see some good fights next. Trashed the GOI in an offscreen fight and the battle after that was pretty boring as well. Brandish was a lap-dog all along and Dimaria is pretty much a perverted sadist (though that rape face after Wendy kicks her might just be a chance of hope that she doesn't becomes like Brandish). Ajeel and Wahl were the only ones who delivered so far. As for the rest I do agree they are pretty powerful but they haven't done anything so far, however I will not outright judge them. But still, bringing Acnologia into the equation pretty much takes away ALL the hype from the Spriggans so he should've actually been introduced later on in the war. I actually disagree. It's been how many chapters since he said he's done waiting and that he'll join the fight? Quite a few. If he took too long to show up people would then argue where is Acnologia and what's keeping him from showing up already. The same way they keep asking about Jellal and Crime Sorciere. |
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Chaos_Harbinger said: Trashed the GOI in an offscreen fight and the battle after that was pretty boring as well. Ajeel and Wahl were the only ones who delivered so far. The fight, what little we saw of it, was hardly boring. But then Acnologia appeared and everyone else were insects before him. "We're in the middle of a war and you want to let your prisoner run free? I have warned you about your naive thinking. One day it just may cost you your life. I have no intention of becoming your friend or confidant, so I'd appreciate it if you left me alone." This one quote redeemed Brandish in my eyes. Darklight0303 said: Lucy-is-onemagic said: punching a god was okay. Because he used a little bit of his fire-dragon-king-mode (the sealed magic in his arm. That's what my thought.) and the whitewashing of gray, it was just part of the avatar arc. Because Gray became aware of the devil slaying magic that's why she asked Porlyusica to heal her. Too bad it was an off-screen scene. Those two are okay. Okay just sayin. That wasn't even a real god. It was just a summon that was a bit bigger than the Celestial Spirit King. What he said. Darklight0303 said: The only real god that's performed as one so far is Ankhseram. But we have no idea who or what he actually is. Darklight0303 said: Chaos_Harbinger said: Trashed the GOI in an offscreen fight and the battle after that was pretty boring as well. Brandish was a lap-dog all along and Dimaria is pretty much a perverted sadist (though that rape face after Wendy kicks her might just be a chance of hope that she doesn't becomes like Brandish). Ajeel and Wahl were the only ones who delivered so far. As for the rest I do agree they are pretty powerful but they haven't done anything so far, however I will not outright judge them. But still, bringing Acnologia into the equation pretty much takes away ALL the hype from the Spriggans so he should've actually been introduced later on in the war. I actually disagree. It's been how many chapters since he said he's done waiting and that he'll join the fight? Quite a few. If he took too long to show up people would then argue where is Acnologia and what's keeping him from showing up already. The same way they keep asking about Jellal and Crime Sorciere. Hmm. You can never please everyone, I suppose. Actually Acnologia shouldn't have been shown to be taking part in this war at all. His appearance means THE END for all the unfortunate "lesser beings" nearby. I've said this before too. |
EvarinyaFeb 2, 2016 8:50 PM
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Lucy-is-onemagic said: Evarinya said: She should be dead. Mashima doesn't really hesitate to kill off fodder characters. But we haven't seen Wahl's attacks actually kill anyone. The Raijinshuu survived his proxy bomb and Ichiya wasn't killed by the anti-matter cannon even though Christina was totalled. Plot armour + poor writing? It's absurd that there'd be no casualties in a war. Plenty of fodder got killed offscreen in the war in Naruto. LS and MH's behaviour is off though. That's definitely poor writing. Vegetable magic is love. Vegetable magic is life. She must not die I'm tellin' ya, Lettuce Shield. Beth confirmed Spriggan Tier. |
samisnotok said: cloud8100 said: ah, Dimaria, I thought you might be kind of cool before you started tearing clothes off women. Now you're just annoying. Still, looking forward to seeing some of the battles. Ok so one problem i have with this is that it has been explicitly stated that Dimaria is a very seasoned war veteran. She knows what shes doing. I don't think she does this just to get a rise out of it. I think she does it to degrade the opponent and embarrass them i.e. lowering their guard and making them an easier target. Dimaria does this for a reason. Or maybe she's just teasing them and doesn't really want to take this war that serious, it's not like the Spriggans are supposed to be monsters/demons ready to tear apart everyone in their sight in fact some of them don't look that hungry to fight at all, like August,Brandish,Invel,Nineheart and Dimaria. |
| No! Laxus...don't you DARE die on us! I thought he was healed and didn't have to worry about the magical barrier particles anymore! :( Oh god. My little heart will break.... |
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-ZET- said: samisnotok said: Ok so one problem i have with this is that it has been explicitly stated that Dimaria is a very seasoned war veteran. She knows what shes doing. I don't think she does this just to get a rise out of it. I think she does it to degrade the opponent and embarrass them i.e. lowering their guard and making them an easier target. Dimaria does this for a reason. Or maybe she's just teasing them and doesn't really want to take this war that serious, it's not like the Spriggans are supposed to be monsters/demons ready to tear apart everyone in their sight in fact some of them don't look that hungry to fight at all, like August,Brandish,Invel,Nineheart and Dimaria. That just reeks of too much convenience. Either way she's either too cocky or too apathetic/reluctant to actually be a credible threat. At this point if the Sky sisters do beat her on their own I'd say she deserves it. Plus we got the situation with Laxus (though to be fair, I do like how he's showing some consequence from previous actions that aren't immediately dealt with. I feel a lot of ire against the Avatar Arc would be alleviated if Gray had to constantly take medication from Poryluscia to hold off the corruption), which basically tells me that Laxus is still so far above everyone in the arc that he needs a health condition to give a sense of tension rather than just giving him an opponent on his level. May as well've sent him to fight Serena instead of Acnologia. |
AllenNoah said: Plus we got the situation with Laxus (though to be fair, I do like how he's showing some consequence from previous actions that aren't immediately dealt with. I feel a lot of ire against the Avatar Arc would be alleviated if Gray had to constantly take medication from Poryluscia to hold off the corruption), which basically tells me that Laxus is still so far above everyone in the arc that he needs a health condition to give a sense of tension rather than just giving him an opponent on his level. May as well've sent him to fight Serena instead of Acnologia. I heard about Mashima saying once in an interview that it's hard for him to give Laxus a fair fight since he's too strong, hence the reason Laxus always gets quickly out of the scene and now a handicap, that already says that Laxus is indeed way above everyone else but I just can't understand that right now with the Spriggans being as powerfull as they are and not to mention, Acnologia. I would've preferred if Laxus was the only one capable of solo a Spriggan and everyone else needs a party of 3 or 4, and that leaves Gildarts to fight August since both of them are hyped to be the strongest of each side, but oh well... |
-ZET- said: AllenNoah said: Plus we got the situation with Laxus (though to be fair, I do like how he's showing some consequence from previous actions that aren't immediately dealt with. I feel a lot of ire against the Avatar Arc would be alleviated if Gray had to constantly take medication from Poryluscia to hold off the corruption), which basically tells me that Laxus is still so far above everyone in the arc that he needs a health condition to give a sense of tension rather than just giving him an opponent on his level. May as well've sent him to fight Serena instead of Acnologia. I heard about Mashima saying once in an interview that it's hard for him to give Laxus a fair fight since he's too strong, hence the reason Laxus always gets quickly out of the scene and now a handicap, that already says that Laxus is indeed way above everyone else but I just can't understand that right now with the Spriggans being as powerfull as they are and not to mention, Acnologia. I would've preferred if Laxus was the only one capable of solo a Spriggan and everyone else needs a party of 3 or 4, and that leaves Gildarts to fight August since both of them are hyped to be the strongest of each side, but oh well... I agree. I thought that's what Mashima was building to when he showed up and attacked Azir. I mean, I figured Natsu would fight Azir (he normally gets those types) and Laxus would fight August or Serena and Jellal would fight the other (probably August since they both have a wide variety of magics). I figured Gildarts would make a Big Damn Heroes against Acno, but I'm not sure anymore. |
samisnotok said: Dimaria is a very seasoned war veteran. She knows what shes doing. I don't think she does this just to get a rise out of it.making It's because she's a seasoned veteran that she shouldn't need such cheap tricks to get the upper hand on her opponents. I think she just enjoys humiliating her female opponents like that. AllenNoah said: That just reeks of too much convenience. Either way she's either too cocky or too apathetic/reluctant to actually be a credible threat. At this point if the Sky sisters do beat her on their own I'd say she deserves it. Indeed. But no matter how arrogant or apathetic she is, her skill and experience is way higher than her current opponents. So the only way the sky sisters can win on their own is with plot armour + invincibility of the good side no jutsu. But it'd probably be Sky sisters + Erza + Kagura vs. Dimaria. Then they can have a legit win. -ZET- said: AllenNoah said: Plus we got the situation with Laxus (though to be fair, I do like how he's showing some consequence from previous actions that aren't immediately dealt with. I feel a lot of ire against the Avatar Arc would be alleviated if Gray had to constantly take medication from Poryluscia to hold off the corruption), which basically tells me that Laxus is still so far above everyone in the arc that he needs a health condition to give a sense of tension rather than just giving him an opponent on his level. May as well've sent him to fight Serena instead of Acnologia. I heard about Mashima saying once in an interview that it's hard for him to give Laxus a fair fight since he's too strong, hence the reason Laxus always gets quickly out of the scene and now a handicap, that already says that Laxus is indeed way above everyone else but I just can't understand that right now with the Spriggans being as powerfull as they are and not to mention, Acnologia. I would've preferred if Laxus was the only one capable of solo a Spriggan and everyone else needs a party of 3 or 4, and that leaves Gildarts to fight August since both of them are hyped to be the strongest of each side, but oh well... You took the words right out of my mouth there:) AllenNoah said: I agree. I thought that's what Mashima was building to when he showed up and attacked Azir. I mean, I figured Natsu would fight Azir (he normally gets those types) and Laxus would fight August or Serena and Jellal would fight the other (probably August since they both have a wide variety of magics). Agreed. I thought so too. BUT AllenNoah said: I figured Gildarts would make a Big Damn Heroes against Acno, but I'm not sure anymore. Gildarts, even though he is OP, would still be bulldozed by Acnologia just as he was in their last two encounters. Idk what Mashima is trying to pull off here. dinesj21 said: No! Laxus...don't you DARE die on us! I thought he was healed and didn't have to worry about the magical barrier particles anymore! :( Oh god. My little heart will break.... Laxus is my fav character in FT now. If he dies, the series will lose a lot of its appeal to me. I'd hoped that Makarov would die this arc (no offence to him, I otherwise quite like the old man) and Laxus would step up and keep FT together. Guess that's too much to expect. Also @AllenNoah, that guy's name is not Azir. It's Ajeel Ramal. Apparently "ajeel" means "quick" in Arabic. "Ramal" comes from Arabic "raml" which means "sand." A fitting name. |
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Darklight0303 said: That wasn't even a real god. It was just a summon that was a bit bigger than the Celestial Spirit King. Minerva's Yagdo Rigora summons an explosive statue. That thing was probably something similar and having a larger scale. That spell is the "magic of the 18 war gods of Yakuma" and the statue was "one of the war gods of Yakuma." Chaos_Harbinger said: Yeah, I guess so but one quote doesn't redeem 95% of her terrible character >.< (unless someone likes the fanservice) Fanservice actually makes me cringe. Chaos_Harbinger said: I think he is the actual 'God' interpretation of FT, different from what we've been told about. That brings up the question "What is a real God in FT?" Hopefully we'll get an answer soon. Honestly I'm still not sure whether he actually exists or "Ankhseram's Curse" is just caused by the rebound when someone uses some powerful and questionable magic. Chaos_Harbinger said: BGMaxie said: After August's declaration, now it is all the more clear to me. Zeref will get Fairy Heart and with it, will pulverize Acnologia and then he will become the Final Boss for real. Low chances of that, I think. We don't even know the outcome of this war so there's a possibility Zeref won't get Fairy Heart at all but it could be that Mavis or some other FT member activates Fairy Heart to provide a boost to everyone to defeat Acnologia. However, I do believe the final villain will be either Acnologia or Ankhseram. Hmm. I suppose. Zeref never came across as very villanous to me. Acnologia would make a good final villain, but then the "God" question remains. So Ankhseram, if he exists, should be the big boss. In that case I want to see the Dragneel brothers fight together. |
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| I hope Hiro did not forget Kagura magic and make her use it for a third time ;0... samisnotok said: Ok so one problem i have with this is that it has been explicitly stated that Dimaria is a very seasoned war veteran. She knows what shes doing. I don't think she does this just to get a rise out of it. I think she does it to degrade the opponent and embarrass them i.e. lowering their guard and making them an easier target. Dimaria does this for a reason. Well Dimaria action prove that she doesn't even have experencie of a foot soldier.. well let's see what's better from the point of war "humiliate" enemy to lower guard break morale of few units ? or kill them .. i think that second option is more suited in any situation because kiling of Kagura for example will decrease morale of MH and LS more than just strip them |
Darklight0303 said: omeg4 said: I think acnologia will be the final boss of FT and Zeref, Natsu and the other dragon slayers will have to defeat him together. I don't think Zeref is evil he is probably doing all this just to kill acnologia for some reason. I think it was mentioned a few chapters earlier that he helped open that gate to try and defeat acnologia. Idk why acnologia is such big a threat though. He would have been a threat if dragons were alive but now that the dragons are all dead they should just leave him alone because he has no interest in humans. Moreover the only person he killed was serena. He let the other humans live. The reasoning for that last bit is simple. He wants to eliminate all Dragon slayers. Everyone else is as relevant as specks of dust to him. Yes but why start a war and risk the lives of millions to save 8 dragon slayers? It is a bit stupid imo |
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