The main reason why many people hate this anime

guys Hindi and russian dub are out

Sadly, I've not heard much good about the novel either. Not that I'm one to read webnovels in the first place. Thanks for the reasonable reply though I usually get yelled at haha.

@Killjoy_Kora If you look at the novel category on MAL it's #1, it's OK if you don't wanna read webnovels though

I watched the first episode at my chinese friends house. I noted it looked chinese before he even mentioned that, and watching the first episode, it was very obviously a chinese show. The animation was often janky and ugly with occasional bright spots, and the story was ridiculously fast. The first episode was so bad it leads me to believe the score is a result of bot reviews to boost it. If you like it that's great and I'm happy for you. It's objectively not an 8.5 show. Not even a 7.5.

I watched the first episode at my chinese friends house. I noted it looked chinese before he even mentioned that, and watching the first episode, it was very obviously a chinese show. The animation was often janky and ugly with occasional bright spots, and the story was ridiculously fast. The first episode was so bad it leads me to believe the score is a result of bot reviews to boost it. If you like it that's great and I'm happy for you. It's objectively not an 8.5 show. Not even a 7.5.

Sadly, I've not heard much good about the novel either. Not that I'm one to read webnovels in the first place. Thanks for the reasonable reply though I usually get yelled at haha.

You're scoring the show based on the book then. If decent animation makes a show an 8, then your standards are very low. My friend spoke highly of the original web novel as well. but said they cut a lot and sped the pace up quite a bit. The first episode was so bad I couldn't imagine it recovering enough to be rated that high.

People hate this coz they have no ideea wtf is going on...i watched 4 episodes and all i can tell you is nothing makes sens...how is the guy using powers no one told hem how to ? how is he so ok with it all happening ? theres alot of things that make no sens...i dont know how much was cut from the story to make it a anime but what it got cut must of been important since now the story makes no sens for a person that never read the novel....and its pretty booring to be honest....the animation is great but a turd is still a turd even if you make it shiny

https://youtu.be/A_uewXfboQU

this guy made a 20 minute cut content for episode 1 if anyone cares , you can tell from the video alot of content that was needed for us to understand what is going on got cut in a dumb way

@Saybarnet
It all makes sense though? Well, it does require you to pay full attention to it and the still not fixed subtitles from Episode 2 don't make it any easier, but you should still get the gist of things at a minimum if you actually pay attention.

For the same reason why Klein could control the grey fog space the moment he realized that he had control over it and why some abomination that lost all rationality created from two failed beyonders who definitely never flew before somehow knew how to control their wings to fly in a straight line. Beyonders obviously know instinctively how to use their powers.

What do you mean by him being "ok" with it all? Who says he is? What else is he supposed to do? Go into a corner and cry like some baby? He does what he does in order to go back home. I really don't understand what you even mean with this.

Nothing of which you listed so far shows that though.

I don't think I will ever read the novel but I trust the anime studio. I liked the anime very much and I thing the way they are doing the mystery part is good enough. It might be harder for this to go mainstream without a English dub but the chinese dub is good enough. I watched link click with English dub and it was great for me and that is probably the only thing holding this series back from going mainstream. Japanese dub in a chinese anime just feels weird.

People that like this show are either novel readers, people that are willing to view outside content / rewatch episodes, or have a far-above average tolerance (to the point of it being bad) for ambiguity in a show. A show that caters to these groups of people and ignores the majority of chill TV-watchers is not going ever going to reach mass popularity. If your gut reaction to people that don't understand the show is that they're not paying attention, they should watch outside videos, or they should rewatch episodes, you should understand that the best shows are able to be enjoyed as shows and not just analytical assignments. Being able to dive deep and break apart details should be a fun bonus, not a requirement for a show. I tend to be a novel reader for most works, so I was planning to read LoTM anyways.

People hate this coz they have no ideea wtf is going on...i watched 4 episodes and all i can tell you is nothing makes sens...how is the guy using powers no one told hem how to ? how is he so ok with it all happening ? theres alot of things that make no sens...i dont know how much was cut from the story to make it a anime but what it got cut must of been important since now the story makes no sens for a person that never read the novel....and its pretty booring to be honest....the animation is great but a turd is still a turd even if you make it shiny

https://youtu.be/A_uewXfboQU

this guy made a 20 minute cut content for episode 1 if anyone cares , you can tell from the video alot of content that was needed for us to understand what is going on got cut in a dumb way

@Saybarnet It's just a series where you are only asking questions and get infodumps about the power system as answers. 🤢

@Saybarnet
It all makes sense though? Well, it does require you to pay full attention to it and the still not fixed subtitles from Episode 2 don't make it any easier, but you should still get the gist of things at a minimum if you actually pay attention.

For the same reason why Klein could control the grey fog space the moment he realized that he had control over it and why some abomination that lost all rationality created from two failed beyonders who definitely never flew before somehow knew how to control their wings to fly in a straight line. Beyonders obviously know instinctively how to use their powers.

What do you mean by him being "ok" with it all? Who says he is? What else is he supposed to do? Go into a corner and cry like some baby? He does what he does in order to go back home. I really don't understand what you even mean with this.

Nothing of which you listed so far shows that though.

People that like this show are either novel readers, people that are willing to view outside content / rewatch episodes, or have a far-above average tolerance (to the point of it being bad) for ambiguity in a show. A show that caters to these groups of people and ignores the majority of chill TV-watchers is not going ever going to reach mass popularity. If your gut reaction to people that don't understand the show is that they're not paying attention, they should watch outside videos, or they should rewatch episodes, you should understand that the best shows are able to be enjoyed as shows and not just analytical assignments. Being able to dive deep and break apart details should be a fun bonus, not a requirement for a show. I tend to be a novel reader for most works, so I was planning to read LoTM anyways.

@Grey-Zone when you have people complaining confused and every fan novel saying "I can help" then videos explaining, cut content that explain it's not easy to understand that anime pacing is bad in barely already when 2 episodes were out

People that like this show are either novel readers, people that are willing to view outside content / rewatch episodes, or have a far-above average tolerance (to the point of it being bad) for ambiguity in a show. A show that caters to these groups of people and ignores the majority of chill TV-watchers is not going ever going to reach mass popularity. If your gut reaction to people that don't understand the show is that they're not paying attention, they should watch outside videos, or they should rewatch episodes, you should understand that the best shows are able to be enjoyed as shows and not just analytical assignments. Being able to dive deep and break apart details should be a fun bonus, not a requirement for a show. I tend to be a novel reader for most works, so I was planning to read LoTM anyways.

@Mizuwa @Mizuwa I mean when did a mistery show needed
Cut content videos from youtubers
Chibiepisodes and mini eps that explain and expand the lore that are canon
Every novel reader saying "I can explain"

To even appreciate the "mistery" of the show, is not mistery if the series makes confused,mistery=/=confused
It fails at conveying "whats/why going to happen" which you would usually ask yourself in a mystery show instead you ask yourself "whats happening"
I know more lore than the characters too now, which feels there reverse of the horrible anime Lazarus when there was there was great chemistry but no plot
Now in this series we have great plot but not chemistry between character, not because they dont have because they dont show at all, is just plot after plot then lore then plot then lore
I like the show but I just dislike the fanbase that feels like they're disgusted when criticizing the show and suggest you to drop it lol

@nexustom some people might not even like this type of anime/don't like to pause to read subtitles and think over them and ykw thats okay but at that point you are missing out on most of the story
But still direction and pacing have improved after the 3 episodes (to the point of being close to perfect in episode 6)
Dub has also helped a lot of people so i recommend people who dropped the anime because they were confused to rewatch ep1 and 2 again

@Skullwild my guy theguy I replied say that suggesting rewatching is something that shoudlnt be a thing smh
Why are you are even replying to me? Im not even talkig to you, are you that fixated on this thread? That check every 5 min or something
Glazers will glaze I guess

You should give the show another shot, the pacing was fast at the beginning but they are finally putting it together. Lots of donghua onlys enjoyed the last few episodes especially the latest, people are finally seeing the vision for this series.

@nexustom
what can i not voice my opinions on a thread CLEARLY meant for discussion?


I agree with rewatching the EXACT same episode but now theres a whole other dub that people are saying actually helped them understand the story better? idk man if you don't want to rewatch it in another dub then don't do it i don't decide it for you

wasn't even toxic lol why are you getting defensive
yes i agree direction and pacing were bad for the first three episodes but i also believe the rest of the episodes have clearly gotten better at storytelling/direction so its not like im blindly calling this "a masterpiece" and "best thing i've ever laid my eyes on" and i admit there are some valid criticisms to be made but the donghua as a whole is improving every episode so give it some time