A Sign of Affection
| bro its the second ep lol, why do ppl need to always jump to conclusions, watch how the story unfolds, in roder to give a proper justification. How the hell would i know if its unnecessary from 1 ep lol. |
8man_hikki said: AnimeIs4Kidz said: Use your brain. To give a detailed answer i will use your favorites as example. Lets look at Frieren. Why add a shot of fern's HUGE tits? Why add a doujin-like shot of frieren's ass and feet? It serves no purpose to the story and makes me feel sad for shounen fans like yourself. It's the same with shoujo fans, we like drama. The difference is that unlike frieren's fan service it does have a purpose superior to just selling more. Frieren has fan service? Also frieren's doujin like ass and feet shot? Ayo what? I don't remember seeing any of those Episode 12, minute 12:53.  |
Mainnus said: 8man_hikki said: Frieren has fan service? Also frieren's doujin like ass and feet shot? Ayo what? I don't remember seeing any of those Episode 12, minute 12:53. This is considered fan service? I always thought only nude scene were fan service. |
Foot fans beg the differ. |
| If it isn't obvious by the on-your-nose dialogue, the purpose of adding the childhood friend is to create a foil for Itsuomi. Itsuomi is supposed to "open" her world, while Oushi believes otherwise. Yes, there are below zero chances for the childhood friend because the story has room-temperature IQ romance writing, but I guess some people will appreciate the thought of adding someone telling the audience that learning sign language is not enough to get the heart of a deaf person (While showing that doing so is enough with Itsuomi, but let's forget that) |
AnimeIs4Kidz said: @8man_hikki Do you watch Frieren? Last episode had a shot of fern's tits filling half the screen lmao Just google "fern's tits" or "frieren's feet" to see the images. Yeah I do watch Frieren. Have been watching it since the day it aired. Let's forget "Fan service" thing. But the way you said "It does have purpose superior to selling more". Making it seem like Frieren story isn't good enough and is using "Fan Service" to sell more. That is where you are wrong even if Frieren didn't have fan service it still would have been good and have gotten the same hype. Don't try to make Frieren look bad just because some bot looking like account hurt your feelings.  |
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| @AnimeIs4Kidz Man even in wholesome anime fanbases like this, fans like you still exist huh? The slightest criticism/dig at an anime and you act like OP just lambasted your favorite anime as the worst thing to ever exist. I don't even have the same gripes as OP but people like you give fanbases a bad rep. |
Gremlin Eris be like:  |
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AnimeIs4Kidz said:
@8man_hikki
Do you watch Frieren? Last episode had a shot of fern's tits filling half the screen lmao
Just google "fern's tits" or "frieren's feet" to see the images.
@8man_hikki
Do you watch Frieren? Last episode had a shot of fern's tits filling half the screen lmao
Just google "fern's tits" or "frieren's feet" to see the images.
Yeah I do watch Frieren. Have been watching it since the day it aired. Let's forget "Fan service" thing. But the way you said "It does have purpose superior to selling more". Making it seem like Frieren story isn't good enough and is using "Fan Service" to sell more. That is where you are wrong even if Frieren didn't have fan service it still would have been good and have gotten the same hype. Don't try to make Frieren look bad just because some bot looking like account hurt your feelings.
| @8man_hikki I just said that anime is a business, they need to appeal to their target audience thus even frieren added "unnecessary" shots like this one for your average 15 years old shounen watcher.  Or you like this one more?  |
AnimeIs4Kidz said: @8man_hikki I just said that anime is a business, they need to appeal to their target audience thus even frieren added "unnecessary" shots like this one for your average 15 years old shounen watcher. Or you like this one more? I don't know man. The way you quoted before didn't seem like you wanted to say "Anime is business" but rather it seem like you were talking bad about Frieren just because the guy who made this forum has it in their "Favourite". There was absolutely no need to mention Frieren here in another anime forum when they are not even related and are of different genre. Maybe the guy who made this forum doesn't have experience with Shoujo anime and thought that the new character was "Unnecessary". You could have just explained that "Shoujo anime revolves around Drama and thus the new character is necessary for it". This was much better way to explain than to get all worked up for nothing. Peace! |
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AnimeIs4Kidz said:
@8man_hikki
I just said that anime is a business, they need to appeal to their target audience thus even frieren added "unnecessary" shots like this one for your average 15 years old shounen watcher.
Or you like this one more?
@8man_hikki
I just said that anime is a business, they need to appeal to their target audience thus even frieren added "unnecessary" shots like this one for your average 15 years old shounen watcher.
Or you like this one more?
I don't know man. The way you quoted before didn't seem like you wanted to say "Anime is business" but rather it seem like you were talking bad about Frieren just because the guy who made this forum has it in their "Favourite". There was absolutely no need to mention Frieren here in another anime forum when they are not even related and are of different genre. Maybe the guy who made this forum doesn't have experience with Shoujo anime and thought that the new character was "Unnecessary". You could have just explained that "Shoujo anime revolves around Drama and thus the new character is necessary for it". This was much better way to explain than to get all worked up for nothing. Peace!
| @8man_hikki I just used his favorite anime as an example of how anime adds "unnecessary" things just to appeal to their fans lmao. Why are you so mad? Did you see that I gave a 10 to frieren? I don't like stupid tits in my anime but I can tell it's good anyways. It's just funny to me that people will cherry pick the most random shit to fish for attention while at the same time having a fav with worse flaws. |
| Childhood friends usually are third wheels and their fate is to be rejected. |
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Weird-but-true said: @AnimeIs4Kidz Dude can't you talk politely? A character's looks/actions adds details to the series itself. But a whole another character who loves the main girl, is her childhood friend but will not even get a chance to be with her is literally purposeless. I don't want to give spoilers but I read the spoilers of upcoming parts and role of 'childhood friend' in series. All he does is suffer. Also who said I am 'shounen' fan? I like animes for their story whether it is shounen or shoujo. I like animes like Frieren, Oshi No Ko, Fruits Basket, etc. Don't judge me by animes I voted for from this new alternate account. It is pathetic to do personal attacks. Please ignore the thread if you can't talk politely. Don’t pay attention to someone using Frieren as “fan service” in their explanation because it’s a ridiculous argument. As far as the childhood friend in a sign of affection, I think the forced drama that’s incoming isn’t needed but it’ll be fun nonetheless. As other people pointed out, it does show a different side of Yuki. If she ended up with Oushi, Yuki would’ve ended up living a sheltered life with someone that’s overprotective, whereas being with someone like Itsuomi, she’ll get to experience so much more that she seems to be longing for. Thinking about it that way helps me not feel too bad for Oushi. Also Itsuomi seemed a little jealous when Yuki was talking to Oushi so that’ll be fun too. |
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Use your brain.
To give a detailed answer i will use your favorites as example.
Lets look at Frieren.
Why add a shot of fern's HUGE tits?
Why add a doujin-like shot of frieren's ass and feet?
It serves no purpose to the story and makes me feel sad for shounen fans like yourself.
It's the same with shoujo fans, we like drama. The difference is that unlike frieren's fan service it does have a purpose superior to just selling more.
To give a detailed answer i will use your favorites as example.
Lets look at Frieren.
Why add a shot of fern's HUGE tits?
Why add a doujin-like shot of frieren's ass and feet?
It serves no purpose to the story and makes me feel sad for shounen fans like yourself.
It's the same with shoujo fans, we like drama. The difference is that unlike frieren's fan service it does have a purpose superior to just selling more.
| @AnimeIs4Kidz I get what you're trying to say (I think) but you don't have to be rude in the process. It seems like they were asking a genuine question. |
"To Infinity and Beyond."  |
| After watching for myself, I see things differently. It is possible that Oushi likes Yuki, but it's heavily implied that he learned sign language as a means of protecting her rather than loving her. Oushi feels sorry for deaf people because he thinks that they put themselves in dangerous situations without knowing at times. Yuki even mentions that when he signs, his hands are "fragile" and "meek." It makes her feel like he's worried for her deep down. However, with Itsuomi, everything is new and unfamiliar. He's not afraid to enter her "world" and get to know her. He even wants to learn how to communicate with her, which makes her fall for him even more. Most definitely, there's going to be some drama down the line lol that's just what comes with a romcom. I don't think it's unnecessary. On the contrary, I think it's important to see how different the views of the people around Yuki are. |
"To Infinity and Beyond." |
AnimeIs4Kidz said: Use your brain. To give a detailed answer i will use your favorites as example. Lets look at Frieren. Why add a shot of fern's HUGE tits? Why add a doujin-like shot of frieren's ass and feet? It serves no purpose to the story and makes me feel sad for shounen fans like yourself. It's the same with shoujo fans, we like drama. The difference is that unlike frieren's fan service it does have a purpose superior to just selling more. It’s funny how you say “use your brain” and then you write an illogical comment. 😅 😂 there is no fan service in Frieren, so this makes people go, “huh?” Why can’t you just explain that it adds drama to the show? Probably unnecessary, but it adds it. That would be helpful |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| I mean it wasn’t necessary but it’s a welcome addition the more characters the better |
| Every week, my dude? Why don't you save yourself some peace and just drop it^^ You clearly don't like it. |
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| I don't know, agnsty tsundere childhood friend is a pretty typical trope in shoujo romance, not to mention anime romance in general. Personally, I was more surprised that no one else noticed the obviousness of his intentions and explained that trolling a deaf person for the sake of it was not the best idea. |
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Weird-but-true said:
I just watched episode 2 and I have mixed feelings about it. The addition of childhood friend kinda ruined the story for me a little bit. I feel bad for him as he even really loves Yuki to the point that he learned entire sign language for her. Why add unnecessary drama. It would have been understandable if childhood friend had any chance to end up with Yuki but that's clearly not the case. It serves no purpose to story and makes me feel sad for that childhood friend of Yuki.....
I just watched episode 2 and I have mixed feelings about it. The addition of childhood friend kinda ruined the story for me a little bit. I feel bad for him as he even really loves Yuki to the point that he learned entire sign language for her. Why add unnecessary drama. It would have been understandable if childhood friend had any chance to end up with Yuki but that's clearly not the case. It serves no purpose to story and makes me feel sad for that childhood friend of Yuki.....
he also thinks deaf people should stay out of public spaces and thinks of yuki as someone who 1) needs to be spoken for 2) is too “disabled” to function by herself. i don’t feel bad for him at all right now. it’s clear he loves her but his mind is in the wrong place
| @sleepyally she may have been harmed in some way in the past or he was somehow connected to other students at her school who may have also been harmed in some way (the girl he meets with the dog implies that he has had some kind of involvement with deaf people in the past), but at the moment it seems very problematic in the context of "don't think I care about you, baka!". |
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AnimeIs4Kidz said: CHT13 said: Don’t pay attention to someone using Frieren as “fan service” in their explanation because it’s a ridiculous argument. Sure bro, they really needed to go out of their way and fill half of the screen with fern's jiggling tits. It was critical to the plot and there is no way it could have been avoided (LOL) I think someone needs to look up the definition of fan service. If fern had a low cut top with cleavage showing than your “fan service” argument would carry more weight. Women’s chest sizes vary. If that’s something that you’re sensitive to then that’s fine but to call that “fan service” is a stretch. |
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| My first question to you is have you actually read the manga? Before deciding a character is unnecessary or used simply as a plot devise to create a love triangle I suggest you hold your judgement. The author had a few reasons for adding him: 1. to create a comparison between childish interaction and adult communication 2. to create the first bridge of connection with the world for Yuki (as her one of the few people who actually bothered to learn SL) 3. to emphasize that friends have value too (ie not just long live the love interest) I don't wanna say to much incase of spoilers, but please give the story a chance before you sh*t on it |
| ~ Those who look with clouded eyes see nothing but shadows ~ |
| nah would've been unnecessary if he just liked her and thats it, but at least he brings a different perspective to it as well. not saying i agree with it but he means well and hearing it out is interesting enough. i don't feel sorry for him though, his fault for not acting sooner. |
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Weird-but-true said:
Seems like many people here are confused in difference between 'details' and 'entire character'.
Frieren have details, but this childhood friend have a character who is just suffering. Imagine being in his place... You loved a person so much since years that you learned even sign language for them and then a random person shows up and take them from you. I am not saying it is anyone's fault or someone is being 'villian'. All I am saying is in my opinion, doing this was unnecessary.
Seems like many people here are confused in difference between 'details' and 'entire character'.
Frieren have details, but this childhood friend have a character who is just suffering. Imagine being in his place... You loved a person so much since years that you learned even sign language for them and then a random person shows up and take them from you. I am not saying it is anyone's fault or someone is being 'villian'. All I am saying is in my opinion, doing this was unnecessary.
Isn’t it still a reality for some though? The circumstances are different but many people out there care for people and do so much but never have a chance with the person they like
| @Izuella no one is entitled to anyone just because you think you are doing something nice for them or care for them doesn't mean they have to like/date you back just for it (otherwise it would feel like you are just settling, and imo that is bad for both parties involved) Oushi is acting a bit like a jerk, probably because he doesn't dare to confess and is just hoping that somehow someway she will understand tht behind his sharp words and unnecessary mean teasing he is actually in love with her (that said, some people learn sign language to help people, not just because they got an extra secret crush on somebody. So just for the fact he learned sign language doesn't need to mean he had a crush on her in her eyes) Yuki can notice that maybe he does care deep down as she mentions in the 2nd ep, but what is overdone is guys thinking by teasing (not in a fun or flirty way) they are somehow gonna get the girl, which is immature af meanwhile ML at no point has demeaned her so far, and seems to take into account Yuki thoughts and opinion and is patient and acts depending on it, it counts a lot those acting like a nice guy thinking they are doing nice things (especially to gain points for their love interest) are not actually genuinely nice deep down and people can notice that (which is why "nice guys" got a bad fame) Oushi needs to change his way of acting around yuki if he wants her to see him differently, he is friendzoning himself by actually keeping a distance between them by acting like that |
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Foot fans beg the differ.
| @Mainnus lmao is this what everyone is coming up these days? Excuses? Really now? At least argument with the person sensibly. Not by using some other anime/manga. |
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