Vinland Saga
| I find the pacing to be great, it gives each dramatic moment time to breathe. So many anime these days favour faster pacing with the cost of immersion, seeing anime like Vinland Saga is a breath of fresh air. I do not understand why anime fans have such a big deal with slower pacing. |
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JerryB3RRY said: I know the pacing isn't as bad as One piece. But, it feels like there should be a lot more content in those episodes. It was worse at episode 2-3. And at this recent episode, I already went through the 5 stages of grief during Gardar's montage. I stopped giving a shit a long time ago. Just kidding, I never gave a shit. What do y'all think? Are y'all fine with the pacing? Also, the baby looked ugly as hell have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. |
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atomicman209 said: yeah full of shit like:why yall giving it 8-9 starts when this season is just full of shit fantastic writing, great theming, top tier characters, emotional devastating moments, ear orgasmic music, really good animation, and so much more. |
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JerryB3RRY said: Apolygon2 said: have you ever seen a real baby? if anything the baby was stunning by bay standards, other anime baby's just set unrealistic standards for baby looks!!! anyways, check the imdb, the episode you're complaining about is one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series. I stopped giving a shit about ratings ever since Aot S4. Fanbases are getting out of hand. I'm just saying, a lot of people clearly did care about the character. you don't have any critical problems. caring is subjective. and the score of the episode being a 9.7 proves that most people did care. there is a reason I specifically said "one of the highest rated episodes in the entire series" instead of just saying it's highly rated. I was making a point that vinland saga fans, liked this episode more than most other episodes, and the only reason for why you didn't enjoy it, is not caring.... which again, is subjective.... do you get what I'm saying? the answer to people being fine with the pacing is yes. the episode you're complaining about is now one of the most beloved episodes in the series. there is a vocal minority like you that dislikes it, but that's as far as it goes. |
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| The pacing is one of the aspects of what actually gives Vinland Saga enough time to convey such emotion into it's spectators and do it episode after episode. The "slow burn" will enhance everything once the climax arrives and it also gives side characters the required space to shine and develop an empathic relation with the viewers. That's why Vinland Saga has so many great side characters, they had time to develop and sometimes what felt like mundane activities scenes and subtle interactions between them added to their development and gave them time to shine. Season 1 also had a slow pace but it had more frequent action so i guess shounentards didn't complain as much. But anyway, in the end characters are just mediums for storytelling but i also don't understand those opinions about Gardar "not mattering" since his character not only was a representation of the hardships of being a slave but his introduction also added to Arnheid's and gave her an important role in this mini-arc and what comes after. This is no "One Piece pacing" cause it actually makes sense to make a seinen this way unlike a shounen which are usually centered into instant gratification and is extended for monetary reasons or to give breathing room for the manga to be written. It's a completely diferent scenario. |
SoulblightMay 2, 2023 2:39 AM
atomicman209 said: Elucid said: I find the pacing to be great, it gives each dramatic moment time to breathe. So many anime these days favour faster pacing with the cost of immersion, seeing anime like Vinland Saga is a breath of fresh air. I do not understand why anime fans have such a big deal with slower pacing. then ig you wont even like AOT and DEMON SLAYER i think for me they have the perfect pace and must be fast for you or ig you haven't watched all those longer animes like op naruto bleach gintama I have seen AOT, Demon Slayer, most of One Piece, and Naruto with filler skipped. I have no problem with the pacing with most of these anime except Demon Slayer, but that's probably due to the mediocre writing. I don't remember much of Naruto though, it's been a long time since I binged it. |
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| Pacing has been appropriate/good so far. Can’t say the same for the 15 min segment on Gardar though 😅 |
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| That's one of the points i was trying to communicate @JerryB3RRY , Season 1 also had a very slow pacing. For example the first episodes where we get to meet life in Iceland and Thors with his pacifism ideals, nobody would have liked the Priest if he didn't had time to fuck around with Askeladd's crew and ask them weird questions, those episodes when the band reaches Wales and they talked about the Romans and such, the political moves that preceded the final showoff between Askeladd and the King and Bjorn's slow death that led to that beautiful duel. Season 1 didn't had as much original scenes like Season 2 but at least from my POV it still was a slow burn and personally i probably wouldn't like Vinland Saga if the pace was much faster, both seasons are a perfect adaptation in my eyes, one which you dont usually see in seinen. |
SoulblightMay 2, 2023 2:56 AM
| Have you even read the manga ? The pace is actually perfect. |
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| Even though, as an example, something like episode 17 was noticeably slower than some previous episodes from either earlier this season or last season due to the manner in which it focused for a longer time on a specific situation which could in some ways be considered a minor side story, I, in general, have no problem whatsoever with the pacing (I generally prefer slower-paced and longer series seemingly more than most nowadays and it's a virtual impossibility to bore me as I could watch literal paint dry and find some degree of amusement or interest). However, whether it received one episode devoted to it or 10 or more, I have to say that either way, I don't particularly care about Gardar's situation compared to other aspects of the story, like for instance, the impending attempted royal seizure on now-King Canute's orders of all the tracts of Ketil's farmland, or the majority of the rest of the plot and other subplots covered previously. That's for two reasons. One, because while he's admittedly in a tragic, pitiable situation, I never liked Gardar's character much from his first appearance several episodes back as he just isn't my typically favored kind of character. Second, because with any series and any character, I'm not a fan of the direction taken in shows where new characters are introduced later in the game who the majority of the series/episodes' airtime is then focused on for a while. I'm almost never as invested in their plight or travails than the characters we've been following since either the very beginning or much earlier on. As a general rule of thumb, the later in the game a character is introduced, the less likely I am willing to care or favor them enough to want to see the runtime devoted to them and their situation at the expense of the previously established main characters, even if their individual story is attempted to be some indispensable microcosm of the show's themes. There's a difference between intellectual acknowledgment of the thematic value of a supporting character or subplot's focus and equal or greater emotional investment in it compared to what came before. |
| The pacing is good because right now we're in character arc mode not action mode but it doesn't surprise me people are frustrated with it because not a lot of people liked when Ironman did this shift for movie 3. I don't mind it though because I like taking an arc to grow Thorfinn. It's compelling to me but ymmv |
| It has been flawless to me as far as pacing and direction go. It'd be better than S1 if it met the visual standards tbh. |
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