Should I finish this or leave it ?

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16..... but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him) so does he get less annoying or not ?

Thx

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

JeXxTaR said:


The fact that you dropped it after episode 38 is so ironic

JeXxTaR said:


No you are right, I think is ironic because of what happens after episode 38

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

aeroheli said:
Though premise for re zero was rather refreshing compared to most isekai, Season 1 definitely felt little underwhelming as most of the death felt pointless or at least i felt it could have been avoided but season 2 was great week to week experience, we get some world building and much needed characters development for subaru and emilia as well. Also if you do decide to pick up dont forget to watch movie before season 2 as it provides more depth to emilia characters which makes her character development in season 2

Okeanix said:

You would appreciate Season 1 more after rewatch because no death is pointless.

Okeanix said:

No Re:Zero is not edgy series for teenagers and scene you mentioned has different explanation.

If you expecting Subaru to powerup and became ruthless or something this is not some flat shounen like Attack on Titan. But there is like millions of isekai with MC comeback as most powerful cliche.

Also you gave Tokyo Revengers 9. I don't understand this thread is troll or something.

God-_- said:
I give ratings based on my enjoyment mate I liked it so what's the problem and anyway that's irrelevant init ?

And no this is not a troll thread I was actually asking

Okeanix said:

Tokyo Revengers is literally copycat of Re:Zero and Takemichi is bland shounen copy of Subaru with no development. That's why i thought this is a troll thread because Takemichi is one of most annoying character in fiction.

God-_- said:
I dropped it at episode 15 or 16....but was thinking of picking it up again cause saw a picture of a creepy subaru rotating his head which was pretty damn cool so want to watch that scene

Also I don't like subaru as a whole (dropped it because of him)so does he get less annoying or not?

Thx

MaxPlays91 said:


Don't bother mate
The Anime starts ok but the second half is awful, the mc don't get any better he is always running after the main waifu that's all his character basically and he loves to cry a lot

I would say finish it if you really enjoyed the Anime setting

(this is only my personal opinion)

Thigh_Tide said:
The better question is why did you even start this junk in the first place.

DatNegroFromFMA said:
wow you didn't even watch after episode 1 and still have the audacity to call the entirety of S1 junk, some people man........

Thigh_Tide said:


Except you're assuming my knowledge of the series extends only to the anime, and you're not actually demonstrating the S1 isn't junk.

Thigh_Tide said:


Except you're assuming my knowledge of the series extends only to the anime, and you're not actually demonstrating the S1 isn't junk.

Thigh_Tide said:


Except you're assuming my knowledge of the series extends only to the anime, and you're not actually demonstrating the S1 isn't junk.

Okeanix said:

There isn't single anime better or even close to Re:Zero in your entire MyAnimeList.

Re:Zero has flawless and layers in writing with amazing characters, world, lore, direction or other many things. Calling this a junk is very funny indeed.

DatNegroFromFMA said:
But did you demonstrate why S1 is Junk??You're just blatantly calling it junk without any evidence to back your claim

Thigh_Tide said:


Go on then, why? Go through all 1,613 entries on my list, and tell me why each individual one is worse.

And while you're at it, how is Re:Zero "flawless," what is "layered" about the writing, what's positive about the characters, world, lore, direction and "many other things." Stand behind your bullshit.



Very good, finally someone took the time to ask. Rather telling really, most of the fanbase jumps up to defend without even looking at where the blow is pointed.

Re:Zero is just another shite Light Novel, and comes with all the medium's usual faults. The foremost is, as usual, the creator's inattentiveness, forcing the series forward without theme or conflict, rending the plot aimless and tedious. Then there's the shallow cast and the unimaginative worldbuilding, both mishandled on account of the absent elements mentioned above, which again knock it down since both are critical points for the genre. And then there's just the anime adaptation being nothing of note, basic art, animation, music and direction, once again the common problems. All the series really has going for it is unwarranted reputation, much like all popular media.

Go through all 1,613 entries on my list, and tell me why each individual one is worse.

Thigh_Tide said:


Go on then, why? Go through all 1,613 entries on my list, and tell me why each individual one is worse.

And while you're at it, how is Re:Zero "flawless," what is "layered" about the writing, what's positive about the characters, world, lore, direction and "many other things." Stand behind your bullshit.



Very good, finally someone took the time to ask. Rather telling really, most of the fanbase jumps up to defend without even looking at where the blow is pointed.

Re:Zero is just another shite Light Novel, and comes with all the medium's usual faults. The foremost is, as usual, the creator's inattentiveness, forcing the series forward without theme or conflict, rending the plot aimless and tedious. Then there's the shallow cast and the unimaginative worldbuilding, both mishandled on account of the absent elements mentioned above, which again knock it down since both are critical points for the genre. And then there's just the anime adaptation being nothing of note, basic art, animation, music and direction, once again the common problems. All the series really has going for it is unwarranted reputation, much like all popular media.

Okeanix said:

Bad trolling attempt.

All your favorites are junk

while Re:Zero Light Novel is one of highest ranked source material in this website.

Not even need to address your blank criticism which has no value,

you can easily see yourself with watching the show.

But your bias is so strong, you hate it even without watching it.

You literally want me to explain why Re:Zero is better than shows like Highschool Dxd which you gave 9?

I have no interest on subjective hate on the series, watch the series first before trying to criticize it.

RioFS said:
You haven't actually provided any evidence to back up your claims.

Demonstrate why Re: Zero lacks any themes.

Demonstrate why the cast is "shallow".

Even those three random thugs have their own conflicts.

Your argument is more shallow then the entire cast of the IS anime.

Thigh_Tide said:


Demonstrate that's what it is. Your claim is unverified.



Still waiting on that proof.



And? The ranking means nothing. That's an appeal to false authority, a fallacy.



Demonstrate it is "blank," demonstrate it has no value. These claims are unverified.



Begging the Question, another fallacy. Why, what would I see that's so good if I watched the show?



You're only assuming "bias" is present, or, as I said earlier, that my knowledge of the series doesn't extend further.



Yes. You believe that is true, so prove that. If you are right, it should be easy.



Where the fuck are you getting "subjective" from? That's another assumption, and again, why would "watching it" automatically demonstrate its quality, what's good about it?



What do you want, a citation from the book itself saying "yep, everything's shit - Tappei?" I've given you verifiable information about the work. By definition, I have presented evidence. If you think not, then you need to check what you think the word means.



Why? Because the author is a retard, that's "why." What you mean to ask is "how."

How, in that, as I already told you, there is no visible impetus behind penning the work, which extends to a disconnect between the plot, world, and characters. This causes the issue of every event in the work being contrived, artificial, not flowing out as logical extensions of the work's ideas as they should.



Again, "how." All of the principle cast fail to have defined goals, views and philosophies, fail to react in turn to the narrative and vice versa, and can all be seen to be extensions of basic genre clichés. Refer to what I wrote above, this is caused and corroborated b the same problem of inattentiveness and a lack of direction.



Prove this claim.



Learn to speak English, this sentence is nonsense. And an Ad Hominem.

Thigh_Tide said:


Go on then, why? Go through all 1,613 entries on my list, and tell me why each individual one is worse.

And while you're at it, how is Re:Zero "flawless," what is "layered" about the writing, what's positive about the characters, world, lore, direction and "many other things." Stand behind your bullshit.



Very good, finally someone took the time to ask. Rather telling really, most of the fanbase jumps up to defend without even looking at where the blow is pointed.

Re:Zero is just another shite Light Novel, and comes with all the medium's usual faults. The foremost is, as usual, the creator's inattentiveness, forcing the series forward without theme or conflict, rending the plot aimless and tedious. Then there's the shallow cast and the unimaginative worldbuilding, both mishandled on account of the absent elements mentioned above, which again knock it down since both are critical points for the genre. And then there's just the anime adaptation being nothing of note, basic art, animation, music and direction, once again the common problems. All the series really has going for it is unwarranted reputation, much like all popular media.

RioFS said:
"shallow cast" and "people fail to have defined goal, views and philosophies"
They do, not everybody's goals have been defined at this point in time but I am pretty sure we have gotten to know about the main cast by the end of Season 2; much of it foreshadowed in S1, For eg., Subaru's immaturity was evident in Arc 2(his ability to get along with children) and ep 13 (him refusing to accept that his point of view was flawed and forcing his ideals upon Emilia).

As for isekai, its a trope rather than a genre so not having stellar worldbuilding DOES NOT reduce its value in any way whatsoever, thereby invalidating some of your points.

About Re:Zero, its more of a character-driven story rather than a plot-driven one.

Subaru is a criticism against the otaku culture: a slothful, anxiety-ridden, arrogant high-schooler that would rather delve into fantasy and delusion than fix his own reality (the 1st trial makes that even clearer).

The theme of the arc 3 is diligence vs. slothfulness (wasting away your life doing nothing). That’s why a lot of people said that episode 18 helped them realize they needed to change their lives.

Therefore, one of Re:Zero's themes is centered around anti-escapism unlike the average isekai which is centered around escapism.

Just one of its themes btw, search around in the internet if you want to know more. All ya need to know is how to type :).

About those thugs, their conflicts have been hinted towards in the Felt Camp side stories. I believe you can find it in re:zero's subreddit.

So yes, I have just proved that Re:Zero indeed has themes thereby invalidating your entire claim, for which you never actually gave any proof, only insulting Tappei, saying "Re:Zero is just another shite Light Novel",etc.

"the anime adaptation being nothing of note, basic art, animation, music and direction" - just your own subjective opinion, thereby invalid.

Of course, the anime adaptation isn't flawless; it has its flaws, none of which you have actually stated.

So there, your arguments are indeed shallow after all, hence my statement ain't nonsense.

Before telling me to learn English, learn to at least give an actual argument instead of insulting the author.

That's quite disrespectful, on top of being a lie.

Btw, I just noticed that you gave R:Z a 1; so you were a troll after all.

In case you were simply mistaken and not a troll, then I apologise and here.

DatNegroFromFMA said:
Examples such as yourself have continued to prove the fact that most if not all Re:Zero haters are mentally retarted 14 year olds.

Just like your previous reply, you're once again blatantly hating on re:0 with no evidence whatsoever.

all the claims you just made can be disproven by reading the novel.

Re:0 is the complete opposite of what you described it to be ,

and my statement is true because it's actually true.

The novel is one of the best works of fiction there is,

and it's high rating further proves what I said

Thigh_Tide said:


I - You note that you're only "pretty sure" of much what you claim, so that's already initially refuted.
II - That Subaru is presented as Immature is largely true, but this does nothing to expand upon his character. Depth involves complexity, not a single trait. That's the issue I mentioned earlier.



Completely untrue. Worldbuilding is imperative for all works of fiction.



This is a common error made by people who fail to understand the nature of stories. The idea of things being either "plot-driven" or "character-driven" is untrue. Fiction is driven by everything, and everything drives it in turn. I mentioned this already earlier, every part of a work of fiction is created to impact and be informed by everything else in that same work. To say "well it's a character-driven story" is just a non-statement.



Doing a trope entirely straight is not criticising it. True criticism of concepts involves taking them to their logical extreme to allow them to demonstrate their own flaws.



It's irrelevant what people said or realised, and I touch on the error you've made below.



So you're concluding the theme of the work based solely on what you felt one fraction of the story focused on? That's incorrect. See, to repeat something I said in an earlier thread, theme is about what the creator has to say about the human condition, how they see the world they inhabit and what philosophical conclusions they've drawn from both. Every individual choice about the work is driven by this, every sentence, every line of dialogue is there with reason. Why is the cast comprised of these particular people, with these particular personalities and stories? Why are the conflict and setting of the work what they are? The creative process is all about making these questions work together, about making sure everything informs and is informed by everything else.

What you're referring to is merely the focus of an arc. That's not the same thing, that's an easier, less impactful task. The actual theme missing from Re:Zero is what drives every idea, event, character interaction, and the like, which it doesn't. What pulled the story to arc 3, did anything? Ask yourself that.



Shifting the burden of proof. The internet isn't arguing for you.



Again, shifting the burden of proof. You made the claim, you're to back it up, not some idiotic subreddit.



Straw Man, you're ignoring all of my actual point. I clearly continued with what the common issues of Light Novels were and how Re:Zero committed these.



Assumption, prove it is my opinion.



Incorrect, I clearly told you what they were. Even if you refuse to accept them, you cannot claim I never presented them. Hence, you're a lying sod.



You've not proved anything you've said, so your conclusion is false.



Again, you're assuming your counterargument is without fault, when it of course is, so to run ahead and conclude my argument was incorrect is just deluded.



Prove both these statements.



A fallacious conclusion. You're again assuming your earlier points were correct, making your point circular.



I'm not even going to bother clicking that. If it is of note, you can repeat the information contained within.

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Your argument in this response has amounted to misunderstanding the nature of character and theme, calling on other fans of the show for help, and then just repeating that you think I'm wrong over and over without affirming that to be true. Pitiful.



Assuming I'm a hater, and failing to actually prove that. And you're making a recursive argument, that's a fallacy.



False, refer to my earlier comment.



Disprove them then. Go on, if it's that easy.



Prove this statement.



Appeal to self-knowing. Fallacy.



Prove this statement.



Appeal to popularity. Fallacy.

Zech_TearZ said:
drop it after season 1, it has a good enough ending to act like a standalone if i recall correctly

. season 2 was garbage, but if you were really content, read the novel.

Okeanix said:

No. Heavy mystery series can't end or act as standalone without solving everything or explain main mysteries was introduced. Season 1 is perfect because Season 2, without Season 2 answers it is not complete.


I don't know what you talking about but Season 2 is peak and has superior writing than every anime. Yes novel is better because source materials are always better in the books not just for anime medium but for everything. Writing is same, dialogues are same. If you call characters, story or anything garbage then what is the point of reading or recommending novels? I don't think you understand Arc 4 masterpiece writing so you should re-watch both seasons.