No Game No Life (light novel)
| It's a stock generic plotline, or are you trying to say Mondaiji was unique and original? If people enjoy it, the lack of authenticity means nothing. |
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| i watched Mondaiji and while the general theme is similar (main characters stuck in a fantasy world where everything can be decided through games), there are significant differences between the two, and i don't feel that NGNL ripped off (too much) from Mondaiji. |
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| Okay now.... we have a thing called "Magic", right? By what you are saying isn't every show that uses the concept of Magic is a damn ripoff of the first one because the fundamental concept is the same. Shouldn't they be blamed too >.< A light novel can't be made with in just a year of preparing even if they steal the plot lines as you said. The Idea, the characters, personalities, the demographics of the lands and alot more has to be put into words. Even if you put aside all that stuff I have seen both shows and I never compared them once because I feel they are too different. |
| As of 27/7/14 I have decided trap anime Sword Art Online II has more appeal than Mahouka. |
| Sorry OP but you apparently do not understand what the word "rip-off" means. If media#1 is a rip-off of media#2, what that means is that media#1 copies the themes, concepts, etc. of media#2 wholesale without much change i.e. Flappy Bird is a rip-off of Helicopter Game. Some of the things you listed in your post are called 'tropes' and if you plan on calling an anime that uses common tropes a rip-off of another anime that uses that trope then I have nothing to say to you. |
| So what if its a ripoff. All romances are rip-offs of each other. All comedies are rip-off of each other. They are similar, but not a rip-off |
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| Who cares, it does everything better than Mondaiji-tachi anyway. |
| It's just generic and uninspired stuff, thats why it seems so similiar to Problem children |
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| Who gives a flying fuck. The show is very entertaining, and that's what really matters most in the end. |
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| rip-off?!?! More like he took a the basic premise of Mondaiji game world and made ten times more interesting and dynamic. Sora>Izayoi Shiro> Yuu Steph> Asuka Jibril > Kurousagi Grandfathers porn stash > all Sora's Intelligent solutions >>>>>>>>>>> Izayoi shonen boring OP falcon punch and kick crap The only thing occasionally interesting in Mondaijii was the Kurousagi tease moments. |
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| Again, ones more messing with the mind while the other is more battle action. And I agree with the SAO and LH analogy in that NGNL offers almost the opposite of what Mondaiji offers in a similar setting. |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: It's a stock generic plotline, or are you trying to say Mondaiji was unique and original? If people enjoy it, the lack of authenticity means nothing. Exactly what i wanted to say. |
| I watched Mondaji but didn't enjoy it. I'm watching NGNL but I am enjoying it. The difference? I guess I feel that NGNL has more charm |
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| It's like what you just said, like SAO and log horizon both of them have a similarities about the setting and the rest you can judge them yourself, same goes for NGNL and mondaiji |
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| I've seen very few real game mangas that have become anime. I'm basically looking for a psychological battle on a similar level to Liar Game or Gamble Fish. The only anime I can name other than No Game No Life is Kaiji. This was already realised, but to relate NGNL to Mondaiji Tachi shows a big misunderstanding of genres and concepts. Relating them based on the theme is the wrong way to go about comparing things. Mondaiji is more action oriented rather than a battle of the minds. |
| NGNL is definitely not original.The setting is very similar to Mondaiji indeed. However, I like NGNL better than Mondaiji as I drop Mondaiji after like 2-3 episodes so I can't tell how much NGNL is similar to Mondaiji. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Zapredon said: NGNL is definitely not original.The setting is very similar to Mondaiji indeed. However, I like NGNL better than Mondaiji as I drop Mondaiji after like 2-3 episodes so I can't tell how much NGNL is similar to Mondaiji. Mondaiji and NGNL are polar opposites in many ways. The only thing they do share in common is OP main characters and playing games in order to achieve things in their worlds, though even the game part is fundamentally different. |
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| Come on, people travelling to a different world is a common themes, anyone can do that. It's the execution which matters here. World builidng, character development etc. How to keep things interesting, that's what matters. Both of these titles have this right on the mark. That being said, I like NGNL and Mondaiji-tachi almost equally. |
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| Personally I think Mondy is better, that said I like both and hope both continue. However, they have enough similarities that its more than just copying generic themes. They are both basically unique overpowered characters summoned to a magically land where people fight through games instead of war, in order to hell a group who was once powerful but now has fallen, and ultimately its done to relieve boredom. Not only that Shiro is basically Izayoi. Dola is basically Kuro Usagi. And so on. I like both, but you have to be naive or in a strong state of denial to suggest the similarities are only superficial or due to some standards rules of a genre. But then again its not a bad thing, even if the backbone or structure is the same, little nuances can make the difference. Also the better comparison would have been SAO to Accel World, you know seeing as they are made by the same person in the same universe, using the same ideas, but end up feeling different. |
| who cares? im glad there are more animes like Mondaiji tachi ga isekai kara kuru sou desu yo ? out there, i loved that show, and i'm loving this one |
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| love both series, the similarities are the major points of the series .. Mondaiji came first Im not surprise if 2 series are being compared and the later will be the ripoff.. but olha2 said: who cares? im glad there are more animes like Mondaiji tachi ga isekai kara kuru sou desu yo ? out there, i loved that show, and i'm loving this one |
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mootjuh said: Just like Log Horizon is a ripoff of SAO, right? .Hack precedes both of those by quite a large margin, but yeah Log Horizon really is basically just SAO 2, which is why I dropped it. What you have to understand is that okay you to some degree need to share some story aspects, its unavoidable. So here the two share summoning and fantasy settings (mondy and ngnl), and SAO and LH share the whole mmorpg deal, but then once you start adding more and more core details that they share, ie games are the method of battle, and how characters are basically mirror images Dola and Kurousagi, then it becomes less and less they share unavoidable themes, and more and more like one is a copy of the other. I mean how much do you need them to be different to give them a pass, change the name Kirito to Asuma, make him a blonde instead of a brunette, make them trapped in a fantasy world has elves or doesn't, make it a sci fi world? I mean two works will never be 100 percent identical, so there will always be difference, but especially when the work in question is relatively popular and well known, you have to make a bigger effort to distinguish it. |
krownklown said: mootjuh said: Just like Log Horizon is a ripoff of SAO, right? .Hack precedes both of those by quite a large margin, but yeah Log Horizon really is basically just SAO 2 This is where I stopped reading. You are wrong on so many levels it's not even funny. |
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| Once people started comparing to SAO, I completely lost any hope that this thread had people with critical capabilities. Really?! What the heck? You are comparing to SAO, SAO to Log Horizon, and... AND saying that SAO came at the same time of .hack. What. the actual. hell. You people can`t be that... senseless. Oh, you are going to tell me how similar they are? Find 3 arguments of their similarity, I can find 30 of how different they are. And since I had no right to talk bad without reading, I read SAO. that`s right. If you say that it came before .hack because the author wrote a friggin prototype and DIDN`T send to the public, senseless and ignorance are compliments for you people |
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Caleb8980 said: -snip- I never got into the .Hack franchise, and I wasn't talking about who copied who. I was mainly referring to "LH is basically SAO 2." Besides sharing the "Oh no! I'm trapped in a video game!" idea, there's really not much else in common. Agreed with the rest. |
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| I don't know if it's a rip off or anything but honestly it's just stupidly overrated. As high as the last 2 Madoka movies? What the fuck? I watched 9 episodes and I can't help but point some problems - The colors are too flashy and since the characters are also quite flashy, it's difficult to separate the characters from the background. - Everything happens so fast that you don't really understand, or in fact you understand if you really listen to every word. The images don't talk a lot and that's a problem. The characters always have to talk quickly to explain everything. Slow down people, slow down ... - The hero is curious, I mean he's an hikikomori but he has a lot of self-confidence, he can talk loudly and he kind of seduces the princess. It's just weird ... - Curious incestuous relation with the "sister" ... which is a little kid ... it's disturbing ... I'm not even sure I'd put this anime in the top 100 or even 200 ... |
gamer5 said: Opinion noted. You have every right for one. Your explaination seems legit. So it was as I guessed since I didn't read the novels, lots of things to tell, but very few episodes. I would have been more interested if it was a 24 episodes long anime. About the main character I still think it would have been more interesting if he was not talkative and not physically atractive, something like Daru from Steins Gate. I like the idea that you don't need to look cool to be very clever and a good person. And about the colors and art ... I remember "Kamisama no Inai Nichiyoubi" which had the same kind of art but a slower pace and less talk. I liked the art in Kamisama (even if I didn't finish because of the story) because I had the time to admire every image. Here it is fast so it looks more like a lot of fluorescent things are going through my screen. Maybe in fact I'm too old for this kind of anime. |
| . He wrote what was basically a one shot sometime in 2002 that was submitted for a prize, only later did he work on it as a webcomic. The .hack games were already published in June 2002, meaning that the game had to be in development at least in 2001 if not earlier, as video games take a very long time to develop. The anime of .hack started in April of 2002, that was .hack signs, a major anime of the time, also I believe the way it works with anime is the episodes are not made weekly but months in advance, and released in their schedule slot meaning the anime was also likely made during 2001. So with all due respect, have a guy who put some one shot piece of work to a prize sometime in 2002, versus a major multi media franchise that although released in the early to mid part of 2002, probably was in development in likelihood at least 2001 if not earlier. So sure I was wrong because technically he put out something earlier,the lns didn't came out until 2009, and like I said even if I count the piece he submitted in 2002 it still probably is predated by .hack. Also regarding SAO to Log you guys are missing the point. In order to copy something you don't literally have to copy it world for word, to still be called a copy. That is the point I made about changing the name of Kirto or his hair color. So yes the motivations of the characters are different, but I don't feel that is not to differentiate them. Why did log have to make them trapped there? You already had SAO where the characters are trapped, you already share the same setting, mmorpg, fantasy world, etc, so why go and further copy and make it that you are trapped there? That is what I mean by degrees, I am willing to say, you cant do anything about the setting, etc., but then why go that extra step and make the basis of your plot that the people are trapped and have to live in that world. That is what to me crosses the line. Like I said of course something is going to be different, you can't copy it exactly otherwise they would have been sued, but to me it copied it enough that I thought it was too similar. And I dont like SAO, so of course I wont like LH. |
krownklown said: Except, like I said, the ONLY thing they have in common is the premise that the characters are trapped in a video game.And I dont like SAO, so of course I wont like LH. If that's enough for you to call it a rip off/copy then it's gotta suck for you to find things that are "fresh." And since LH is nothing like SAO, you can't tell if you like or not if you don't watch it. |
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krownklown said: And I dont like SAO, so of course I wont like LH. Except that SAO and LH are nothing alike, nice try though. Literally the only similarity between the two is starting off trapped in a game world. From there, they're completely different. |
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