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Mar 6, 6:12 AM

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Just when i think i got it, it loses me again
Mar 7, 8:22 AM

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Things are getting more intense each episode.
This episode confirmed that it seems we're seeing a conflict between the real world Lain and the Wired Lain, that take the form as the same person. However, it's still a bit confusing to understand if they are really the same person or not. What I mean is if the Wired Lain is someone impersonating her, or if it's just Lain expressing her true feelings online, like happens in real life, with people being completely different online to what they are in the real world. And it seems Lain is having an internal struggle to understand who she really is: the person she is in the real world, or the one from the Wired.

It seems that the Lain from the Wired spread the rumours in the Wired that Arisu (Lain's only social support as of now) had a crush on her teacher, and well, thinks about him when doing the thing.
How did Wired Lain obtain this information? I don't know if it was because she told Lain (and therefor, Wired Lain), or because Wired Lain implanted spyware on her computer, and was able to record that, or something like that. The episode just explains saying Lain is able to access information across the whole Wired.

Also, it seems that the "God" in the Wired really is Lain, like I suspected some episodes ago. This is later confirmed by how she was able to just delete her memories. Now, I'm not really sure what was happening at the end. Was she dissociating herself?
This final scene really seemed like Lain is living in a reality created by her. That's why she has so much influence in the Wired, and can just delete other people's memories. It would also explain why her family seems so lifeless, and why they are not her "real" parents. Maybe Lain really is an orphan and this is her idealized virtual reality. Don't know why Arisu in particular is so well characterized in this world though. Maybe because she really is Lain's friend in the real world?

Anyways, this is all really confusing, and at this point I'm not understanding where the aspects they have been talking about in the last episodes are going, like, what has KIDS have to do with this, what happened to Phantoma, what happened to that drug from episode 2. Like, where are we going with this story?
I guess I'll have to continue on watching to get it.
Mar 7, 8:36 AM

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This was a really interesting episode, and one in which a bit more actually happened than usual. The majority of it is very surreal. I actually had to watch it twice to fully understand what had happened.

So, the opening scenes confused me, I still don't really understand much about the IP's, other than that somehow, they are the way in which people in the wired are able to exchange information, and Tachibana General Labs is trying to sabotage the implementation of the 7th protocol.

After this we see a scene of Lain asking her parents about the remarks of them not being her real parents. When she enters the room, neither of her parents move at all or make eye contact, and it is eerily similar to the behavior of her soulless sister. The only response she gets to her questions is a stare, similar to the one she gets from the entire school farther on in the episode. I'm not quite sure of the meaning of this, but the behavior of most of the people in this episode seems more like that of dolls than that of humans. Somebody else in this thread remarked that the school stare scene has a dreamlike quality about it, and i would say the same of this scene.

In the next scene we learn that Wild Lain has done something to upset Arisu and the rest of her friends, which we later learn is telling everyone about Arisu's fantasies of sex with one of her teachers. One of her friends motions to Arisu that a teacher is arriving at the school, and this is something i did not pick up on during my first watch, but this is the same teacher that Arisu was fantasizing about.

We cut to lain sitting in class, on her navi-phone thing. She enters the wired, and it is unclear to me whether she does this intentionally through her phone or whether she is pulled into the wired by another force. We see her walk down a hallway suspended in darkness, with rows of people (the only visible part of which are their mouths) on either side, gossiping, apparently about other things that Wild Lain has told the wired. At the end of the hallway, she meets a being that claims to "exist everywhere in that other world." The being then reveals itself to be Lain herself, and says that real world Lain is just a body, a hologram. Lain refuses to believe this, and wakes up in the classroom.

I believe that this next scene is very important, as it seems to imply that the "real world" may not be so real as we think. The entire scene is very dreamlike. Upon Lain's awakening, she looks up to find that everyone, including the teacher, has ceased all activity and are staring at her, motionless. She leaves the classroom to find the rest of the entire school doing the same. This screams "dream" to me, as suddenly the whole world seems to be revolving around Lain, and playing to her fears. The entire scene is very creepy, yet the music, which thus far in the series has tended to match the eerie tone, is very calm and again, dreamlike.

Afterwords, we see Lain crying outside of the school, and receiving a text from Arisu attempting to comfort her, after which an orb of destruction erupts from her body and destroys the supply closet she was sitting outside of. This, i believe, is the moment at which Lain of the Wired takes over Lain of the real world's body.

Next, we see Wild Lain witnessing another of Arisu's fantasies about her teacher, and tormenting her about it, essentially destroying Lain's only real friendship. This scene points to the remarks of 'god' about lain existing everywhere being true. Wild Lain did not somehow sneak into Arisu's bedroom and seat herself on the bed unnoticed. She appeared there.

Now we see Lain lying in bed, terrified while the wires around her spark and crackle. A short shot of cyberia, and Lain floating away from powerlines, which shortly dissapear, leaving Lain suspended in darkness. This scene I am not sure what to make of. It could be any number of things, to lain experiencing being everywhere, to a dream, to the plain of existence that Lain now resides on after having been forced out of her own body by Wild Lain.

A bed appears in the blackness, and with it, the other Lain. There are some lines in this scene that seemed important to me. "Why are you acting like the part of me that i hate?" Lain admits that there is a part of her like Wild Lain, even after her statements of "you're not me". Then, when Lain attempts to strangle Wild Lain, WL laughs, and says "I'm committing suicide!" Both of these statements seem to me like the point to Lain and WL being more two sides of the same coin, rather than completely different people. Lain asks a question: "Why do i have to feel your body heat?" She does not want to feel WL's body heat, because she does not wan't to admit that Wild Lain is a real person, as much as she is, or perhaps more than she is. The answer she receives is "Hey, I'm Lain, aren't I?"

We cut back to the hallway, but now, instead of just mouths, the rows of people all have Lain's face. But they are obviously not human, not real.
'God' tells Lain that they are all her, because like him, she is omnipresent in the wired. Lain is in denial of his words, and says "everything that you say is a lie". "As long as I am aware of myself, my true self is inside of me!" But Wild Lain is aware of herself as well, no?

'God' says that what Wild Lain did was right, and that "The Wired's information should be shared, shouldn't it?" And yet he makes no attempt to persuade her not to undo what she did. She succeeds in erasing the memories of her friends, only to discover that WL has taken over her body and her friends cannot see or hear her. "Lain is Lain, and I'm me" WL says, further cementing the idea that they are both parts of Lain.

The end of the episode is Lain at her navi, asking "I'm me, right? There's no other me but me, right? But most of the evidence in this episode points to that being incorrect.
SatanicBeaver said:
A bed appears in the blackness, and with it, the other Lain. There are some lines in this scene that seemed important to me. "Why are you acting like the part of me that i hate?" Lain admits that there is a part of her like Wild Lain, even after her statements of "you're not me". Then, when Lain attempts to strangle Wild Lain, WL laughs, and says "I'm committing suicide!" Both of these statements seem to me like the point to Lain and WL being more two sides of the same coin, rather than completely different people. Lain asks a question: "Why do i have to feel your body heat?" She does not want to feel WL's body heat, because she does not wan't to admit that Wild Lain is a real person, as much as she is, or perhaps more than she is. The answer she receives is "Hey, I'm Lain, aren't I?"


This seems to be the scene that more heavily indicates that Wild Lain and Lain are indeed the same person. At first I didn't understand the "I'm commiting suicide" comment, but now reading this I get it! Because if Lain is trying to kill the Wild Lain, that is still her, she is basically commiting suicide.

I wonder what's the relation of this to Chisa's suicide from episode one.
Apr 22, 3:23 PM
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Ok I guess so has the Wired lain replaced the real lain?
Apr 26, 12:04 PM
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Fantastic episode, and quite sad, too.

We finally get a good look at the other Lain, and it's not a pleasant face. She's cruel and ruthless (not to mention, kind of a freak). The scene on the bed is fascinating. To me, the suicide line seems to cement the idea that this is indeed Lain, a part of herself that she doesn't (or doesn't want to) recognize, she can't even stand to touch it (or "feel [its] warmth"). Honestly, despite the Knights being ready to kill people, I think Lain's biggest enemy might be herself.

I found this quote by Yasuyuki Ueda (the producer and one of the main creative forces behind Serial Experiments Lain): "Everyone shows a different face depending on who they're with. Lain is the extreme form of that idea — her different selves become completely separate beings." In other words: in real life, you already act differently with your family, your friends, strangers, online, etc. but what if those different "faces" you put on started living independently as if they were real? What if you lost control over them? What if people judged you based on a "you" that wasn’t even you anymore?

At the end of the episode, the other Lain is out in the open, and it seems that reality has been completely hacked to sideline "our" Lain.

On the family front, things are the worst they've ever been. The parental unit has totally given up any pretenses, and no one cares about the Mika husk.
Jun 15, 9:26 AM
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Lain has to be the most retarded god in the entire history of anime history.

She as all this power and what does she do with it? She's playing dollhouse with a world that she probably nuked herself on a typical teen angst day or over something really, really stupid.
Jun 29, 10:02 AM
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Everyone just staring at Lain as she walks through the school was so done so well. It's very eerie/disturbing and it didn't try too hard to achieve that.
Aug 17, 7:36 AM

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Giddy dad is not giddy for once. Lucid-dream that reality to hell.
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