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Nov 1, 2010 9:29 AM
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K9001 said:
No , you are just moaning like a little baby, because you didnt like the ep, whould be more simple post "Dont like it" or simple dont post

But you fail at both...
And as expected, there is of course the users who are going to react emotionally, say that I suck, and fail to actually defend their opinions. At any rate people like you only prove that my point is more justified, since the opposing opinion is indefensible.

It is people like you who actually should avoid posting in episode discussion topics, since you're contributing nothing intelligent, but frankly I can't really complain since of course it's hard to expect the average person to be intelligent and objective. Regardless if my point is in fact flawed, it should be easy for you to counter my statements instead of trying to pretend my opinion doesn't exist. If that's something you can't do, I highly suggest you grow up, since the world can't cater to your opinion every day.
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Nov 1, 2010 12:39 PM

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Jeez things are getting heated in here -.-

Anyways, i just didn't find this episode amusing at all. Usually they exceed in the realm of awkwardness and disgust- that whole negative is so extreme or unique i look at it in a positive light. Unfortunately, they didn't cross that threshold and it just stayed boring and repulsive. (4 Bad)
Nov 1, 2010 12:39 PM

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Jeez things are getting heated in here -.-

Anyways, i just didn't find this episode amusing at all. Usually they exceed in the realm of awkwardness and disgust- that whole negative is so extreme or unique i look at it in a positive light. Unfortunately, they didn't cross that threshold and it just stayed boring and repulsive. (4 Bad)
Nov 1, 2010 1:16 PM

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A2ZOMG said:
K9001 said:
No , you are just moaning like a little baby, because you didnt like the ep, whould be more simple post "Dont like it" or simple dont post

But you fail at both...
And as expected, there is of course the users who are going to react emotionally, say that I suck, and fail to actually defend their opinions. At any rate people like you only prove that my point is more justified, since the opposing opinion is indefensible.

It is people like you who actually should avoid posting in episode discussion topics, since you're contributing nothing intelligent, but frankly I can't really complain since of course it's hard to expect the average person to be intelligent and objective. Regardless if my point is in fact flawed, it should be easy for you to counter my statements instead of trying to pretend my opinion doesn't exist. If that's something you can't do,I highly suggest you grow up, since the world can't cater to your opinion every day.


That Goes for you precisely

And you say to me "Grow up"?, better read all your "moaning post cuz dont like the ep and argue with everyone" and reconsider who need to grow up, clearly you fail to see that too

plz, someon slap him

Nov 1, 2010 1:18 PM

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First part was kinda ok, but the second destroyed the whole episode. Feel sad for that old man.



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garfield15 said:
Alright Gainax, let's see what you've got today.

A Part
-The Runny?
-Well, it's just picking your nose, I don't see how that could possibly....oh god, that booger actually made me curl in revulsion.
-TOMOKAZU SUGITA! (Gintoki, Kyon, Bullet, epic voice actor)
-Oh boy, we're using boogers to float now. This episode's gonna get gross.
-Yeah, I already knew that one wasn't gonna be....you know...actual sex. Looks like some anime cliche's never get subverted.
-Booger Ghost. Man, this is getting really weird. I mean...wow....
-HAHA! I was wondering if they were going to bring up that Panty wasn't wearing something for easy access to panties!
-Okay, we have reached a new level of visual sound effects. "Pants On."
-Well, that was completely disgusting....NEXT PART NAO!

B Part
-YES YES! EPIC ART SHIFT! THIS IS WHY GAINAX IS AWESOME!
-OH MY GOD! IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING FROM "PARANOIA AGENT/MIND GAME!"
-Seriously, I'm too busy being entertained by this animation right now. I don't care if this half is slow (it's not gonna be slow for long I bet)
-Oooooooh...I get it now. It's an in-universe meta episode where in that real world, Panty and Stocking actually exist.
-It's a meta episode...of the previous episode!
-Wow, these employees are total a-holes.
-Oh, this is about to get really bad, really fast. and...whoa, Vomit Ghost....is totally...freaking...AWESOME!
-AHAHAHA! GAINAX, you magnificent trolls of animation (unless the point was to make them stick out). The ending was kinda heartwarming though.

Yeah, Vomiting Point was the best one so far to me even if it was totally depressing.
A2ZOMG said:
And so? It was hardly even entertaining

Maybe for you. I was loving every second of it.


I'll just quote the whole message because I absolutely agree.
The show is freaking awesome to the bits, those who have dropped it are missing a lot.


I wish my english was better ._.
Nov 1, 2010 4:22 PM
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K9001 said:
That Goes for you precisely

And you say to me "Grow up"?, better read all your "moaning post cuz dont like the ep and argue with everyone" and reconsider who need to grow up, clearly you fail to see that too

plz, someon slap him
I have every right to state my opinion of the episode and explain why I didn't like it. Never once did I ever suggest to anyone that their opinion was not wanted or invalid, and my arguments are meant to provoke more intelligent responses to this discussion. I am completely open to well-articulated opinions that differ from mine. Emotional outbursts like yours are not a substitute for that.

If you can't take an opinion that doesn't agree with yours, you have no place in an episode discussion. It's honestly a pity that there aren't more people who understand how intelligent discussion works.
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Nov 1, 2010 4:32 PM

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A2ZOMG said:
K9001 said:
That Goes for you precisely

And you say to me "Grow up"?, better read all your "moaning post cuz dont like the ep and argue with everyone" and reconsider who need to grow up, clearly you fail to see that too

plz, someon slap him
I have every right to state my opinion of the episode and explain why I didn't like it. Never once did I ever suggest to anyone that their opinion was not wanted or invalid, and my arguments are meant to provoke more intelligent responses to this discussion. I am completely open to well-articulated opinions that differ from mine.

If you can't take an opinion that doesn't agree with yours, you have no place in an episode discussion. It's honestly a pity that there aren't more people who understand how intelligent discussion works.


And here we have another troll of internet, Mr.Smartass talker.

/thread

You must be a lonely person...
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Nov 1, 2010 4:38 PM
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And I'll go back to noteDhero's argument. It's perfectly fine if you react emotionally, say I suck, am a troll, etc, because it only proves that I'm more right, and that the show is indefensible.

I much prefer people who actually have legitimate arguments against my opinion though.
Nov 1, 2010 5:59 PM

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A2ZOMG said:
And I'll go back to noteDhero's argument. It's perfectly fine if you react emotionally, say I suck, am a troll, etc, because it only proves that I'm more right, and that the show is indefensible.

I much prefer people who actually have legitimate arguments against my opinion though.


For you the show must be "indefensible".....oh god, god give bread to who dont have teeth

Nov 1, 2010 7:45 PM

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Very good episode.
Second half reminded me of episode 12/13 of Paranoia Agent when the protagonists enter the "cartoon world"; Panty & Stocking made the opposite. It made all sense because it explained us how ghost are created and also that has been very similar to the ending of Paranoia Agent.
Was this an homage to Satoshi Kon?
Nov 1, 2010 11:11 PM

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kindergraph said:
it fucking blows my mind that most people who hate on psg for being STUPID AND UNFUNNY are also watching ika musume.

psg is dumb as hell, but it's so much funnier than ika musume. goddamn moefags.


This.
Nov 2, 2010 12:54 AM

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K9001 said:
plz, someon slap him

Sure.
*Winds up for a slap, sends palm flying @11km/s*

Act IV, Scene Troll.
[Stage Left. Enter K9001 and A2ZOMG.]

1-31's palm nears A2ZOMG. 1-31 realizes mid-swing that although A2ZOMG has a differing opinion to his regarding the currently discussed series, A2ZOMG provides well-reasoned as well as more mature opinions than K9001.

'Tis much he dares;
And to that dauntless temper of his adolescent angst
He hath an overzealous fanboyism that doth guide his
Ego to post in immaturity.
There is none but he whose being I do loath,
And under him my face is palmed
As it is said many fans' were by 4Kids' dubs.

1-31 redirects his palm toward K9001. K9001 is struck.

End Act IV, Scene Troll.

~~~~~~

Anyone else looking forward to a Ripping Friends/Ren and Stimpy parody in future episodes?
1-31Nov 2, 2010 1:33 AM
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Isn't it awesome to see people trying so desperately to defend their favorite show?


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Nov 2, 2010 6:43 AM

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1-31 said:
K9001 said:
plz, someon slap him

Sure.
*Winds up for a slap, sends palm flying @11km/s*

Act IV, Scene Troll.
[Stage Left. Enter 1-31 and A2ZOMG.]

1-31's palm nears A2ZOMG. 1-31 realizes mid-swing that although A2ZOMG has a differing opinion to his regarding the currently discussed series, A2ZOMG provides well-reasoned as well as more mature opinions than 1-31.

'Tis much he dares;
And to that dauntless temper of his adolescent angst
He hath an overzealous fanboyism that doth guide his
Ego to post in immaturity.
There is none but he whose being I do loath,
And under him my face is palmed
As it is said many fans' were by 4Kids' dubs.

1-31 redirects his palm toward 1-31. 1-31 is struck.

End Act IV, Scene Troll.

~~~~~~

Fixed

Nov 2, 2010 7:14 AM

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Siva said:
Isn't it awesome to see people trying so desperately to defend their favorite show?

Is that not what fans are supposed to do?

Though we could do without the slapping script or whatever.
Nov 2, 2010 7:38 AM

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garfield15 said:
Siva said:
Isn't it awesome to see people trying so desperately to defend their favorite show?

Is that not what fans are supposed to do?

Though we could do without the slapping script or whatever.
With a valid point, yes. Other than that, no(as you can see above). Being a good fan is one thing, and being a blindly fan is another thing. I am not saying anyone who likes PSG suck or brainless but if I find something wrong with the show I have the right to say so too, right?

Honestly, I have my own favorite shitty show too and you can bash it however you want as long as you are right.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Nov 2, 2010 12:30 PM

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i think just, this is (like a part of this series) a tribute of some american animation... its like the chapter of the powerpuff girls, when the girls need to go to other city, where all is real and sad (murder, bills, etc)... isn't? =B
Nov 2, 2010 12:48 PM

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K9001 said:
Fixed

Seriously, is that the best you can do?

I love watching PSG, I really do. It's one of my fav series this season. It's just that your holier-than-thou attitude has me pissed off to the point of fanboyism-friendly-fire posting. This forum's meant for people to express their opinions and generate discussion, not for people to flame each other over 'This show is t3h bestestest!!1!' or 'This show is fucking shit!' They all count as people's opinions. Some may choose to or not to elaborate on why they feel that way. Do you think the rest of us PSG fans don't feel at least slightly annoyed when people bash the show? This is the Internet, hon. If you can't stand the butthurt, get out or get some lube.
Nov 2, 2010 2:08 PM

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puchacamilo said:
i think just, this is (like a part of this series) a tribute of some american animation... its like the chapter of the powerpuff girls, when the girls need to go to other city, where all is real and sad (murder, bills, etc)... isn't? =B


I'd completely forgotten about that episode!

I think you've got this nailed, puchacamilo
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K9001 said:
Fixed

Seriously, is that the best you can do?

I love watching PSG, I really do. It's one of my fav series this season. It's just that your holier-than-thou attitude has me pissed off to the point of fanboyism-friendly-fire posting. This forum's meant for people to express their opinions and generate discussion, not for people to flame each other over 'This show is t3h bestestest!!1!' or 'This show is fucking shit!' They all count as people's opinions. Some may choose to or not to elaborate on why they feel that way. Do you think the rest of us PSG fans don't feel at least slightly annoyed when people bash the show? This is the Internet, hon. If you can't stand the butthurt, get out or get some lube.


I think you are missunderstanding

I like the show, never say "I dont like it" or something like that, in fact is the first time i post in this "Topic" saying "Good ep 4/5"

Plz read from page 1 all the post from A2ZOMG, all what he does is comment in a annoying way and smashing the comment of other users, trolling all the post he do.


Nov 2, 2010 7:38 PM

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Probably my least favorite episdoe so far out of the series. Though the art style change, in my opinion, didn't fit. It was a little enjoyable.
Nov 2, 2010 8:13 PM

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Interesting episode, to say the least. Lol @ nose sex and Panty "crap, I'm not wearing a skirt today!" XD The massive nosebleed she caused was awesome lol
Second part was actually pretty good IMO. Art style was different but worked out, and I really did feel for that poor old guy :S Nice of them to give him an autograph
Nov 3, 2010 4:06 AM

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K9001 said:
1-31 said:
K9001 said:
Fixed

Seriously, is that the best you can do?

I love watching PSG, I really do. It's one of my fav series this season. It's just that your holier-than-thou attitude has me pissed off to the point of fanboyism-friendly-fire posting. This forum's meant for people to express their opinions and generate discussion, not for people to flame each other over 'This show is t3h bestestest!!1!' or 'This show is fucking shit!' They all count as people's opinions. Some may choose to or not to elaborate on why they feel that way. Do you think the rest of us PSG fans don't feel at least slightly annoyed when people bash the show? This is the Internet, hon. If you can't stand the butthurt, get out or get some lube.


I think you are missunderstanding

I like the show, never say "I dont like it" or something like that, in fact is the first time i post in this "Topic" saying "Good ep 4/5"

Plz read from page 1 all the post from A2ZOMG, all what he does is comment in a annoying way and smashing the comment of other users, trolling all the post he do.


Trying to break down and discuss other people's posts and argue points of it isn't trolling, it's trying to generate discussion. If someone is doing that and you have a problem, just ignore them. It's not that difficult.

Besides, half of this argument is slipping into personal attacks now, and that's not cool. Aren't we all here to discuss the show, not each other?
If any of my posts seem odd, it's probably because I'm tired. Sorry. I have sleeping issues.
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Siva said:
garfield15 said:
Siva said:
Isn't it awesome to see people trying so desperately to defend their favorite show?

Is that not what fans are supposed to do?

Though we could do without the slapping script or whatever.
With a valid point, yes. Other than that, no(as you can see above). Being a good fan is one thing, and being a blindly fan is another thing. I am not saying anyone who likes PSG suck or brainless but if I find something wrong with the show I have the right to say so too, right?

Honestly, I have my own favorite shitty show too and you can bash it however you want as long as you are right.

I know! Even if you like the show but male one truthful negative comment about it, you get flames. (Refer to episode 3 discussion for further reading)
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Something feels wrong with this episode, wasn't as great as previous ones, but w/e. Looking forward to next one.
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K9001 said:
I think you are missunderstanding

I like the show, never say "I dont like it" or something like that, in fact is the first time i post in this "Topic" saying "Good ep 4/5"

Plz read from page 1 all the post from A2ZOMG, all what he does is comment in a annoying way and smashing the comment of other users, trolling all the post he do.

K9001 (earlier) said:


I think you are misunderstanding.

I know full well that you like the show, that you never said you didn't like it, and that your first post in this episode's thread was "Good ep 4/5."

Please refer to your earlier posts, all you did was comment in an annoying way and smashed the comments of another user, finishing in personal attacks toward him with every post.

Siva said:
Though we could do without the slapping script or whatever.

Just trying to bring some Shakespeare here for entertainment... ^ ^"
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Part A: Yay, mindless entertainment, just what I needed :D
Part B: Actually, it was kinda depressing... Not something you expect from this show, and not something I wanted to be in this show. However, it is something I would like to see an anime of :)
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Bleh bluh blah blah bleh bleh trying to sound too smart while analyzing a potty humor anime bleh blah bluh blhuh blah bleh I'm wasting my time bluh blah bleh bluh.

Anyone looking for anything MORE than gross humor in this show needs to JUST STOP WATCHING IT. You are not making yourself look any smarter than this show by hanging around and pointing out storytelling flaws. Honestly guys, this is a parody on American animation, and their storytelling structures. Did anybody ever go online and point out bad storytelling in Powerpuff Girls or Dexter's fucking Laboratory? This isn't meant to send your brain spiraling down into an endless ocean of deep thought. It's there to tell gross jokes, give you a seizure, and end. It's there for brainless entertainment. You are not servicing your public intelligence by trying to analyze this show.

You either like it or you don't. Either way is FINE WITH ME. It's just that I get irritated seeing people try to argue against this show using their critique on things such as storytelling and other development. On any other show that would be fine. But when you know that a show is trying its hardest TO NOT BREAK ANY GROUND IN EITHER CATEGORY. Arguing for its lack of depth is moot, and if depth is what you are looking for, then you should look elsewhere because this show has none.

With that said, this show is wonderful.
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I personally find it funny that people strongly believe this show is as simple as love it or hate it.

My opinion of this show is mixed. On the one hand I can definitely appreciate good things like the art style, the more creative applications of said art style, and the voice acting.

It's just that the creative applications of the art style are literally all the show has going for it, and basically without that, that's when the show is mediocre. And it's basically been 50/50 between creative and uncreative streaks.

Of course, they tried to do something different in part 2 of episode 5 by telling something of a story that had some kind of meta-joke, but I personally thought that they presented poorly by virtue of just bad storytelling (taking too long over details that didn't matter, not properly developing plot elements to keep the story clear and intact).

And the thing is, there are definitely shows that do gross humor MUCH better than this show. South Park in specific. South Park is actually funny and consistently creative. P&S quite frankly isn't funny and is only creative about half the time. Whether you're consciously aware of it or not, there are in fact real standards for how all types of humor work.

And trying to argue that P&S is somehow avoiding standards is nonsense. "Avoiding" standards is still in direct reference to them or can be classified in itself as a distinct logical purpose. It doesn't matter what type of show it is. A good show should meet its purpose consistently and effectively.
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Well, they finally truly pushed out of what they did before and into the realm of truly bizarre. And while indeed the other episodes have a lot of shock value and gross humor, flouting the societal norm and treating picking your nose in public as if it's normal, truly a level of uncanny that this show hasn't gone into before.

Also, I can't believe a show like this has made me cry. But that second part truly brought me to tears, I bet that sort of thing happens a lot in Japan. All of it, every single bit is something I have heard in stories of the Japanese workplace. That was such a sweet old man with such a sweet little family, and it was just so sad. I'm glad he was able to get something for his daughter.;_;

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A2ZOMG said:
A good show should meet its purpose consistently and effectively.
This is where most of the shounen and comedy shows went wrong.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
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A2ZOMG said:
I personally find it funny that people strongly believe this show is as simple as love it or hate it.

You're like the only person I've ever heard who has a mixed reaction to it so...yeah, that's clearly been my mindset.
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Haven't liked this show at all so far [despite finding myself wanting to watch it anyway], but the second segment for this was amazing.

Thinking about it like that, haven't all of the monsters they've fought been the product of normal people pushed too far?
I'm genuinely impressed and look forward to seeing where this will go.
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garfield15 said:
A2ZOMG said:
I personally find it funny that people strongly believe this show is as simple as love it or hate it.

You're like the only person I've ever heard who has a mixed reaction to it so...yeah, that's clearly been my mindset.
I think both sides have equally justifiable and flawed reasons. So hence, I believe a mixed reaction is appropriate. =)
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A2ZOMG said:
I personally find it funny that people strongly believe this show is as simple as love it or hate it.

My opinion of this show is mixed. On the one hand I can definitely appreciate good things like the art style, the more creative applications of said art style, and the voice acting.

It's just that the creative applications of the art style are literally all the show has going for it, and basically without that, that's when the show is mediocre. And it's basically been 50/50 between creative and uncreative streaks.

Of course, they tried to do something different in part 2 of episode 5 by telling something of a story that had some kind of meta-joke, but I personally thought that they presented poorly by virtue of just bad storytelling (taking too long over details that didn't matter, not properly developing plot elements to keep the story clear and intact).

And the thing is, there are definitely shows that do gross humor MUCH better than this show. South Park in specific. South Park is actually funny and consistently creative. P&S quite frankly isn't funny and is only creative about half the time. Whether you're consciously aware of it or not, there are in fact real standards for how all types of humor work.

And trying to argue that P&S is somehow avoiding standards is nonsense. "Avoiding" standards is still in direct reference to them or can be classified in itself as a distinct logical purpose. It doesn't matter what type of show it is. A good show should meet its purpose consistently and effectively.


The quote "There have never been statues erected in honor of critics" comes to mind.

You're beating a dead horse.
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And your response is relevant how? This has nothing to do with me. The point is I am expecting more intelligent discussion about this series, which has divided viewer opinions.
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I get it now...

A2ZOMG is bipolar, now all have sense....

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A2ZOMG said:
And your response is relevant how? This has nothing to do with me. The point is I am expecting more intelligent discussion about this series, which has divided viewer opinions.


After that's done, we can have intelligent conversation between the people split in their opinions over the movie Freddy Got Fingered.

My point is: Besides maybe the second half of this episode, there's not much to discuss , because this is a series inspired by American cartoon designs and styles, offering only slapstick, extreme shock value, and mindless entertainment. Sure, there's more sophisticated depictions of aforementioned slapstick and shock in American cartoons like South Park, but I doubt Gainax was aiming for consistency or sophistication in plot or character beyond two depraved angels fighting bodily fluid monsters to regain entrance into Heaven.
I think GAINAX was in the mood to have fun with a small budget and I can 'sense' that they're having it with this series.

Also, expectations are not always met. You reiterating your points in hopes of generating 'intelligent discussion' over an anime series whose creators clearly have no intention of proving a point, but to simply have 'fun' reads as you beating a dead horse.
You're reading too much into this series.
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forksinablender said:
A2ZOMG said:
And your response is relevant how? This has nothing to do with me. The point is I am expecting more intelligent discussion about this series, which has divided viewer opinions.


After that's done, we can have intelligent conversation between the people split in their opinions over the movie Freddy Got Fingered.

My point is: Besides maybe the second half of this episode, there's not much to discuss , because this is a series inspired by American cartoon designs and styles, offering only slapstick, extreme shock value, and mindless entertainment. Sure, there's more sophisticated depictions of aforementioned slapstick and shock in American cartoons like South Park, but I doubt Gainax was aiming for consistency or sophistication in plot or character beyond two depraved angels fighting bodily fluid monsters to regain entrance into Heaven.
I think GAINAX was in the mood to have fun with a small budget and I can 'sense' that they're having it with this series.

Also, expectations are not always met. You reiterating your points in hopes of generating 'intelligent discussion' over an anime series whose creators clearly have no intention of proving a point, but to simply have 'fun' reads as you beating a dead horse.
You're reading too much into this series.


This!!

Exelent answer

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forksinablender said:
I think GAINAX was in the mood to have fun with a small budget and I can 'sense' that they're having it with this series.

I don't think it's "that" small. There have been some unbelievably well-animated scenes in this.
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garfield15 said:
forksinablender said:
I think GAINAX was in the mood to have fun with a small budget and I can 'sense' that they're having it with this series.

I don't think it's "that" small. There have been some unbelievably well-animated scenes in this.


Like the second half of this episode, for example.
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Hmm.. That was a bit rediculous. Even for me. (-.-) But I did enjoy the second part's sense of justabilty for the show. Even though that in itself was a little rediculous. Oh well. Can't say i've hated it so far. :) Looking forward to the next!
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forksinablender said:
A2ZOMG said:
And your response is relevant how? This has nothing to do with me. The point is I am expecting more intelligent discussion about this series, which has divided viewer opinions.


After that's done, we can have intelligent conversation between the people split in their opinions over the movie Freddy Got Fingered.

My point is: Besides maybe the second half of this episode, there's not much to discuss , because this is a series inspired by American cartoon designs and styles, offering only slapstick, extreme shock value, and mindless entertainment. Sure, there's more sophisticated depictions of aforementioned slapstick and shock in American cartoons like South Park, but I doubt Gainax was aiming for consistency or sophistication in plot or character beyond two depraved angels fighting bodily fluid monsters to regain entrance into Heaven.
I think GAINAX was in the mood to have fun with a small budget and I can 'sense' that they're having it with this series.

Also, expectations are not always met. You reiterating your points in hopes of generating 'intelligent discussion' over an anime series whose creators clearly have no intention of proving a point, but to simply have 'fun' reads as you beating a dead horse.
You're reading too much into this series.
Owned. And well said. :)
Nov 9, 2010 8:25 PM

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I dont get why all the hate comments
This is the only 10/10 show in the season(prob this year) for me. Totally amazing. Especially the 2nd half of this episode
Nov 9, 2010 8:29 PM

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Ah the great Tomokazu Sugita, plus that second half was trippy, emotional, sad, funny, and weird, in other words great.
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Hi, I'm new here, but I think the 2nd half of this episode is the apex of the series so far, including (esp.) the much-lauded episode 6. It is a perfect skewering of the Japanese salaryman system. We here in the US have nothing like it, at least in the white collar world. Imagine being crammed with all your coworkers into a tight shared office space under the constant baleful gaze of your equally miserable boss. And many bosses think nothing of loudly dressing you down in front of all your coworkers. This is reality I'm talking about, not a cartoon.

On top of this misery, you are expected to hang out with all these people and drink copious amounts of alcohol after work all the while pretending you wouldn't rather tear your hair out than look at them for another second. What an absolutely perfect way to send it up: in wonderful drab, drab brown and beige, so that when P & S finally show up in their primary colors and their amazing clarion-call transformation music, they seem as though they came from another universe: from Narnia or Shangri-La. And how better to react to such a dehumanizing system than with a city-drowning ocean of vomit.

I had no problem at all understanding there were two birthdays. The complaints of bad story-telling on this thread baffle me. This half-ep is what elevated the show to 40 kinds of awesome for me. From the first evocation of "New Tokyo" to the final deliciously ironic shot of the turtle, there was not one wasted second. This ep. made comparisons to FLCL possible. I only wish ep. 6 had been half as good.

Obviously, ymmv.
Nov 14, 2010 8:09 AM

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A2ZOMG said:
I personally find it funny that people strongly believe this show is as simple as love it or hate it.

My opinion of this show is mixed.


Same here. I like the brainless humour sometimes, but sometimes P&S can be plain boring.
Nov 14, 2010 8:38 AM

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The first part was the most disgusting thing i ever saw and it wasn't even funny.

The second part had some of the elements that musotaku said but it was still disgusting and unfunny.
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Crude and often disgusting, yes. Brainless, far from it. Like most other titles from GAINAX it has many clever and sly tricks up its sleeves. The "gold-digging" first half of this ep. is a great example. It probably is a universal association that anyone picking his nose is making himself look like an idiot, but it is certainly a very specifically Japanese one. That making oneself look like an idiot should become the trendiest fad of the year (as happens in this episode) is a skewering of fashion fads in general, and it resonates particularly I would think in fad-crazed Japan where the fads in real life often do exactly that: make one look like an idiot. This first half-ep picks the scab off the whole business.

My reaction to the show is mixed, too. I don't think it supports plot well, and the plot they've introduced is quite over-used. (Compare it to the wickedly clever plot of FLCL.) I would have preferred they stayed with the half-ep episodic format like Ebichu did. In any case, this ep. 5 is the high point for me so far.
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