OneManga To Abandon Illegal Scanlations

kindergraph said:
i don't see why anyone thinks this is a big deal.

i've never used onemanga or mangafox or any site like it, i just...download from the scanlators. the scans are higher quality and more readable, and not covered in jpeg grit.

it'd be like complaining if crunchyroll got shut down. who cares?

Black_Rose1809 said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Please don't let Manga Fox be next... or my last source of manga will be gone! My brother threw all my manga in the trash... T.T

kindergraph said:
i don't see why anyone thinks this is a big deal.

i've never used onemanga or mangafox or any site like it, i just...download from the scanlators. the scans are higher quality and more readable, and not covered in jpeg grit.

it'd be like complaining if crunchyroll got shut down. who cares?

Nia9001 said:
Google
*insert title here* read online
Enter

Nacchi said:


Not every site is safe though >.<

Nacchi said:
Eh, some people prefer to just read rather than download. My friend's computer is old and slow, so she can't download and Mangafox makes it worse, so OM was a big deal. So I guess it could be bad for people in that situation.

Black_Rose1809 said:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Please don't let Manga Fox be next... or my last source of manga will be gone! My brother threw all my manga in the trash... T.T

TheStarEffect said:
So what will happen to 1000manga since it's connected to OM?

Sabinlerose said:

I still have some kickass gundam and dragon ball Z manga from when was like 9 or 10.
And I live in a small town that has no giant outlets of any type.

So your example is a clear fail.
Fail harder.

So your example is a clear fail.
Fail harder.

JadeMatrix said:
Well, I abandoned OneManga several months ago (I think), and switched over to MangaToshokan. When they dropped all Japanese series, I went download-only for most stuff. There's one big download site, it should be fairly easy to find. And they should be around for a while, since their terms-of-use basically say they 'don't know' whats on their website (since it's dl-only they can say that).
If that goes down, I'll head to IRC. I only use it now because they have an RSS feed for each series.


So, because you were able to buy volumes from two incredibly popular series that were brought to the US ten years ago because they would appeal to Western audiences just as well, means that you could buy manga just as easily back then as you can now.

d4n13lr0x said:
I swear to you publishers. This ain't the end you fuckers. We're all gonna migrate and migrate and continue reading manga online. And we still ain't buying your overpriced, censored, and shitty translated bulllshit.

JadeMatrix said:
Well, I abandoned OneManga several months ago (I think), and switched over to MangaToshokan. When they dropped all Japanese series, I went download-only for most stuff. There's one big download site, it should be fairly easy to find. And they should be around for a while, since their terms-of-use basically say they 'don't know' whats on their website (since it's dl-only they can say that).
If that goes down, I'll head to IRC. I only use it now because they have an RSS feed for each series.


So, because you were able to buy volumes from two incredibly popular series that were brought to the US ten years ago because they would appeal to Western audiences just as well, means that you could buy manga just as easily back then as you can now.

Sabinlerose said:
Sure scanilation groups helped.
But the companies who marketed the manga, and the anime are the ones who made manga popular.

QwaserRailgun said:
*sniff sinff* This is just too cruel. T^T

Sabinlerose said:
Please tell me you are joking man.
Way to buy into the propaganda.

OneManga makes money. That is the reason they are getting strong armed.

Go find a few not for profit manga hosting sites. Those wont get targeted by this so called 'crusade" that the onemanga team is trying to paint.

d4n13lr0x said:
...it makes money off the ads of the site.

d4n13lr0x said:

So what? They host manga up to date to the very latest issue from reliable scanlators, create a very simple interface that even a 7 year old can use, and has no popups, etc. Simple, easy, efficient, and the least time consuming-they even removed ads that slowed down loading of the page. It ain't a crusade they're trying to paint.. I bet the OM staff doesn't even get any money. It all goes to the website owner, who also would pay for the bandwidth of its daily 1 million visitors. I bet the ads on the site first started because they wanted it to pay for the site's fees, not to generate any profit. If they wanted to do that, they could simply make people pay to view. The thing is, the site doesn't even generate money from manga. It generates money from the adsense profits it gets that aren't even obtrusive when viewing manga. So let me get this straight. Publishers shut down OM because they were generating money, not from something like manga, but from Adsense, an independent source of profit that's from website traffic? That's fucking bullshit. That means it's not because it hosts manga, but because it makes money off the ads of the site. It seems like they're using the fact that it has manga to say C&D because they're making a little money off the side. Jealous of competition from a website? Really? Not for the profit of manga hosting sites? Have you ever heard of the infamous Tazmo? Publishers are complete dumbasses. Go after that fucker before you touch any more manga hosting sites that let you read for free.

Sabinlerose said:

If they didn't make money they would not own a website of that size / a website that takes up that amount of time and resources.
End of story.

Higashi_no_Kaze said:
As long as I SOMEHOW get my fix of Liar Game I don't really care. I also attempted to buy it but it's not available so I have to go for scanlations.

@general debate: Idk :D

Drunk_Samurai said:
I see you failed to read post #232.

JadeMatrix said:
I think that he's under the impression that any transfer of money from any party to another involving scanlations is wrong. So basically, no sense in trying to reason.

hazama said:
lol good thing that crappy online reading site is down. I mean, there are a lot of online reading sites 10000000x better than OM. Like MT for instance. They were the best :')

anyway, the goal was to close down ALL reading sites and build a new one called http://www.openmanga.org the site is approved by publishers. You can even get intouch with the authors themselves! I dunno what's the catch though.

LuciferTheAngel said:
your MUST be jokeing O_O
agh....you gotta be kidding me......no way....just no way
i wanna kill my self now , bad day i have =_=

Knife said:

A lot of people have Bleach and Naruto as their favorite anime, so it's pretty obvious that a lot of people like crap. Popularity does not equal quality.

Drunk_Samurai said:

If that's the case then I wonder if he's against people who run say a ROM site that has ads.

kindergraph said:

maybe so, but i think the western anime/manga industry is ready to die.

if funimation and every other anime/manga import company tanked today, what difference would it make? no more dubbed anime on tv? we're not in the 90s any more. almost all anime fans watch/read fan translations now anyway. hell, say what you will about overdone karaoke effects, but most fansubs i've seen have more effort put into the translation than professional dvd releases (not that this is true for all of them, but most of nozomi's dvds read like they were translated by babelfish).

the western anime industry helped popularise anime, i guess, but we really don't need help doing that any more. the internet exists, you guys. all funimation and companies like them are doing now are creating pseudo-celebrities (e.g. vic mignogna) and preying on download sites.

anime/manga licensers are suffering from the same disease as the riaa/mpaa. they're dinosaurs. we don't need them any more.

e: can't believe i forgot to add this, so i don't seem like some kind of "piracy is hardcore, screw the man!" douchebag. if you want to support a series, buy merchandise. import toys and keychains; hell, buy one of those creepy figurines. yeah, it's expensive. that's what having a hobby is about. (besides, how many series are actually worth paying for anyway? i want my money back for tayutama -kiss on my deity- and i didn't even pay for it.)

d4n13lr0x said:

1) The thing is, the site doesn't even generate money from manga. It generates money from the adsense profits it gets that aren't even obtrusive when viewing manga.

2) Publishers shut down OM because they were generating money, not from something like manga, but from Adsense, an independent source of profit that's from website traffic?

3) That means it's not because it hosts manga, but because it makes money off the ads of the site.

4) It seems like they're using the fact that it has manga to say C&D because they're making a little money off the side.

Sabinlerose said:
What the fuck are you guys going off about?
Seriously. What in the seven circles of hell....

I make a comment about how One Manga making large sums of money is one of the reasons it was shut down...and how ad revanue among other things makes the creator of the site a LOT of money....which apparently means im against websites making a profit, or ads or any sites giving them....How the hell...what is this...I dont't even.......the cake it...is a lie.....?

Next time can you please read what I WRITE not to be confused with what YOU THINK I'm saying with.

EDIT for the record: I don't oppose adcents. Like you seem to think I do.
I just don't support using the profits for your own personal gain.
Bet you didn't know the owner of Onemanga tried to sell his site for a few million dollars awhile back. In it for the profits....speaks for itself.

Drunk_Samurai said:


Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

Sabinlerose said:

I read what you said.
You simply don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Of course it costs money to run a site. But if it cost him any money to run, he wouldn't be running the website. So naturally that means the owner is making a profit.

And when he is trying to sell the site for millions of dollars....well. I think that shows just how much money he actually is making.

Go take a few business courses, or learn about how the internet works before you open your trap again, kay?
Fucking children...

Drunk_Samurai said:
Learn to read. We said that he didn't make any money because all money generated from ads went back into the site. You honestly don't know what you are talking about. Billion of viewers = shitloads of bandwith cost.

Drunk_Samurai said:


You're the one who is the idiot here. If somebody has so many viewers then they do not make profit. They in fact could even lose money if people have adblock or some such plugin. There's a reason why Lurk's servers are down. They were late on a payment because donations were not enough to keep it running. Every single coin they get goes into the servers. If something evens out then there is no need to close down a website.

d4n13lr0x said:
Sigh, after everything, when all is said and done, bickering gets nothing accomplished except piss fights. Still doesn't change the fact that before long, if the publishers actually win and accomplish their task, every single person who took the publishers' side won't be able to view/download manga online for free. At least that makes me happy in this time of mass C&D. And if Tazmo doesn't lose his site, I'll lose all respect for them.

Sabinlerose said:
OneManga makes money. That is the reason they are getting strong armed.

Go find a few not for profit manga hosting sites..

seif said:

You know.. it's like you're saying that manga-reading websites should not be expanding at all. Once they get popular, "hey stop! you're making money. Shut it down now". Be unpopular or die!

These sites (any online reading sites) generally nowadays will either implement ads or donation system -- either way, they generate some money. Your case is done.