[Oshi No Ko]
EdgyLord666 said: Why not? The sibling relationship can be justified because they are both reincarnators. All ships are questionable anyway, I don't see how this ship is "morally inferior" than the other ships. Aqua was a full grown man while Ruby was still a child. Also, I don’t know how many times I will have to say this but I will say it as many times as I need. INCEST IS INCEST! |
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kushakashi said: cuz the manga kinda half assedly canonized it? it's not clear whats happening, manga has been kind of a mess lately but there was a mention of ruby being 16 and remembering that she promised the doctor (aqua in his previous life) that she'd marry him when she got to that age. im kinda indifferent to it, i think other aspects of the story are far more interesting. the r34 side of it never really caught my eyes. I think Ruby’s past life was only saying that bc of her neglectful parents and how the doctor took care of her. Goro didn’t agree to marry her at all. |
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because they will make the best cauple  |
| Wild, just wild, that's all I have to say |
| If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Fukoku said: Wild, just wild, that's all I have to say nothing about to worry bro |
Fukoku said: That can also apply to AquKana and AquAka ships, and yet you're okay with it? EdgyLord666 said: Why not? The sibling relationship can be justified because they are both reincarnators. All ships are questionable anyway, I don't see how this ship is "morally inferior" than the other ships. Aqua was a full grown man while Ruby was still a child. |
EdgyLord666 said: To be fair we don't know who Kana and Akane's past lives were. While I admit, my logic could be flawed, it doesn't change the fact that they are brother and sister...and you know what I said in my last response.That can also apply to AquKana and AquAka ships, and yet you're okay with it? |
| If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
Fukoku said: I'm talking about the accumulation of their mental state, but you're right, who knows maybe Kana and Akane are actually reincarnators as well?EdgyLord666 said: To be fair we don't know who Kana and Akane's past lives were. While I admit, my logic could be flawed, it doesn't change the fact that they are brother and sister...and you know what I said in my last response.That can also apply to AquKana and AquAka ships, and yet you're okay with it? As your incest thing, I already justify it, doesn't matter whether you agree or not. |
footber said: I guess what you say is true. And yeah incest is incest, if Aqua and Ruby end up together I might just drop the series...although I seriously doubt that'll happen.I don’t know how I feel about it… it’s complicated. Incest is a big factor here. It’s morally incorrect in almost all cases. But here they are technically brother and sister - and technically not. From a writing perspective it’s interesting. It makes you think and consider - as well as making the plot more complex. But no matter what, incest is incest. Which is a turn-away for me. But we just have to wait and see how this all ends… it’s definitely a conclusion I can’t predict. I'm so fucking sick of explaining simple concepts to the ppl in this thread tho, so I'm just done, I'll just ignore this thread from now on. |
| If I had to choose between One Piece and a girlfriend...I think I'll go with One Piece |
| OP, with the same logic, you can start a thread "why do people ship Reina with Kimiko, they are both girls!" |
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| I'm sorry, but procreation problems are basically the only reason why incest is socially unacceptable in human society. |
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TASM18 said: Insults will not help you prove your case. On the contrary, they will only demonstrate that you have no arguments in essence. As far as "hot takes", 50 years ago same-sex relationships were considered hot take for the same reason, and a bunch of moral guardians like you said that only perverts can treat gay people normally. Morality is not as constant and black and white as you think.RobertBobert said: I'm sorry, but procreation problems are basically the only reason why incest is socially unacceptable in human society. shows how braindead people are when "incest is bad" is like a hot take or something |
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TASM18 said: Where did I try to defend incest or say something about whether it is bad or good? You don't even try to read what I write, you are just passive-aggressive and speak in slogans, expecting this to be an argument. Typical moral guard mentality.RobertBobert said: Insults will not help you prove your case. On the contrary, they will only demonstrate that you have no arguments in essence. As far as "hot takes", 50 years ago same-sex relationships were considered hot take for the same reason, and a bunch of moral guardians like you said that only perverts can treat gay people normally. Morality is not as constant and black and white as you think. did I ever say it was black and white? no. You're the one who doesn't have an argument for why incest isn't good because you're defense is "people back then did it so it's okay" Incest is not something that should ever be normalize and it's crazy I have to state this. |
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| Half of them aren't really serious and the other half are just Ruby simps trying to self insert into Aqua |
TASM18 said: Are you able to trace the context of the dialogue as a whole? The man said that the main problem of incest is problems with offspring. You replied that "incest is always bad", to which I replied that problems with children are in fact the main reason why incest is considered morally unacceptable in society. This is a fairly obvious fact to anyone familiar with anthropology and the mechanism by which social taboos are formed. It was a statement of fact in the context of the original dialogue, nothing more and nothing less. That's why I called you a moral guardian, because you react passive-aggressively to any neutral words, instantly interpreting them as "incest is cool!", also insulting people with different opinions or posting tribune-like slogans in the hope of appealing to someone else's morality. This is exactly what the behavior of a typical moral guardian is. RobertBobert said: Where did I try to defend incest or say something about whether it is bad or good? You don't even try to read what I write, you are just passive-aggressive and speak in slogans, expecting this to be an argument. Typical moral guard mentality. You said "and procreation problems are basically the only reason that incest is socially unacceptable in human society" implying that if you don't have kids then incest is fine, hench you are defending it. Read what you actually write. Also before you criticized me for using insults and then called me a "moral guardian" be consistent. And yes, I am consistent, I have never insulted you here yet, while I had a great excuse, given your passive-aggressive behavior and insults to other people. |
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| @TASM18 Literally all your answers to me, including this one. For example, you instantly took my comment about the reasons for the social condemnation of incest as "incest is cool" and began to argue with my non-existent position. Also your tendency to rely more on moral appeals or declarations of superiority in dialogue rather than substantive arguments. You yourself understand this, which is why in the last answer you abruptly changed the style to forced formal. |
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| The amount of people defending incest and saying it's inherently not bad is astounding to me. I've already been told on a forum previously, from someone who already posted on this one, about how incest is "no big deal". This is why no one outside of anime watchers takes anime watchers seriously. This is why anime watchers are associated with many weird and disturbing fetishes. No other community goes "well it's not really bad because muh subjective morality". If you support it or think it's neutral, you're a deviant and don't understand the biological mechanics at play that can harm a resulting child. Plain and short, you're weird as fuck. |
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TASM18 said: I'm doing this because you're too easy a book to read, that's all. Again, where did I say that incest is acceptable or even say anything about whether it is acceptable or not? You refuted your thesis that you didn't say anywhere that you see my position as "incest is cool" in the same comment in which you made it when you continued to claim that I consider incest acceptable just because I know that incest the taboo stems from its consequences for posterity. With the same logic, you can accuse all anthropologists, sexologists and historians of accepting incest because they also know how and why the incest taboo appeared.RobertBobert said: @TASM18 Literally all your answers to me, including this one. For example, you instantly took my comment about the reasons for the social condemnation of incest as "incest is cool" and began to argue with my non-existent position. Also your tendency to rely more on moral appeals or declarations of superiority in dialogue rather than substantive arguments. You yourself understand this, which is why in the last answer you abruptly changed the style to forced formal. When did I ever condense your statement to "incest is cool"? I thought that your logic behind it was flawed. Also your last part feels like you are trying to be an armchair psychologist. I just stated that I've been trying to see your side but however you've been constantly talking down to me which has made things hard. Also you stated your point in the beginning just being that incest is only looked down upon because of the production problems. You immediately showed your side believing that if there is no children produced then incest is acceptable. I don't appreciate you trying to make me look like the bad guy and you trying to make yourself look like my superior. |
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Trimethylglycine said: Summarize all other opinions to a primitive scarecrow @ call all those who disagree weird deviants - I love moral guardians. Something that in this world never changes.The amount of people defending incest and saying it's inherently not bad is astounding to me. I've already been told on a forum previously, from someone who already posted on this one, about how incest is "no big deal". This is why no one outside of anime watchers takes anime watchers seriously. This is why anime watchers are associated with many weird and disturbing fetishes. No other community goes "well it's not really bad because muh subjective morality". If you support it or think it's neutral, you're a deviant and don't understand the biological mechanics at play that can harm a resulting child. Plain and short, you're weird as fuck. |
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RobertBobert said: Trimethylglycine said: Summarize all other opinions to a primitive scarecrow @ call all those who disagree weird deviants - I love moral guardians. Something that in this world never changes.The amount of people defending incest and saying it's inherently not bad is astounding to me. I've already been told on a forum previously, from someone who already posted on this one, about how incest is "no big deal". This is why no one outside of anime watchers takes anime watchers seriously. This is why anime watchers are associated with many weird and disturbing fetishes. No other community goes "well it's not really bad because muh subjective morality". If you support it or think it's neutral, you're a deviant and don't understand the biological mechanics at play that can harm a resulting child. Plain and short, you're weird as fuck. congratulations for proving my point, please stop watching anime and associating yourself with normal people |
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Trimethylglycine said: Congratulations or proving myf point. I immediately expected that you would simply try to humiliate me too. Continue in the same spirit, most importantly do not forget to encourage more "think about children." RobertBobert said: Summarize all other opinions to a primitive scarecrow @ call all those who disagree weird deviants - I love moral guardians. Something that in this world never changes. congratulations or proving myf point, please stop watching anime and associating yourself with normal people |
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Trimethylglycine said: The amount of people defending incest and saying it's inherently not bad is astounding to me. I've already been told on a forum previously, from someone who already posted on this one, about how incest is "no big deal". This is why no one outside of anime watchers takes anime watchers seriously. This is why anime watchers are associated with many weird and disturbing fetishes. No other community goes "well it's not really bad because muh subjective morality". If you support it or think it's neutral, you're a deviant and don't understand the biological mechanics at play that can harm a resulting child. Plain and short, you're weird as fuck. This…is one of the greatest replies I’ve seen. Im actually surprised by the amount of incest defenders there are. But I’m done explaining simple concepts to them. I’ve tried but they’re too brain dead for simple reasons why this ship wouldn’t work to get through their heads. There’s nothing wrong with shipping Aqua with characters but out of all of them, they chose his sister. The same can be said for Ruby. Nothing wrong with shipping her, but why her brother of all people?. Anyone who thinks incest is okay needs pills. This is why I’m so embarrassed to say I’m an Oshi No Ko fan. |
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RobertBobert said: Trimethylglycine said: Congratulations or proving myf point. I immediately expected that you would simply try to humiliate me too. Continue in the same spirit, most importantly do not forget to encourage more "think about children." congratulations or proving myf point, please stop watching anime and associating yourself with normal people the fact you're vehemently defending your position on this is mind numbing. You're in the minority for a reason. Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are |
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Trimethylglycine said: Trying to make fun of someone else's smartness @ unironicly declare yourself the winner of an argument - I find it incredibly cute how silly you look from the outside. I also love how you, like the other moral guardians here, instantly labeled me as an incest advocate just because I questioned your opinion. Go on.RobertBobert said: Congratulations or proving myf point. I immediately expected that you would simply try to humiliate me too. Continue in the same spirit, most importantly do not forget to encourage more "think about children." the fact you're vehemently defending your position on this is mind numbing. You're in the minority for a reason. Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are |
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Fukoku said: Trimethylglycine said: The amount of people defending incest and saying it's inherently not bad is astounding to me. I've already been told on a forum previously, from someone who already posted on this one, about how incest is "no big deal". This is why no one outside of anime watchers takes anime watchers seriously. This is why anime watchers are associated with many weird and disturbing fetishes. No other community goes "well it's not really bad because muh subjective morality". If you support it or think it's neutral, you're a deviant and don't understand the biological mechanics at play that can harm a resulting child. Plain and short, you're weird as fuck. This…is one of the greatest replies I’ve seen. Im actually surprised by the amount of incest defenders there are. But I’m done explaining simple concepts to them. I’ve tried but they’re too brain dead for simple reasons why this ship wouldn’t work to get through their heads. There’s nothing wrong with shipping Aqua with characters but out of all of them, they chose his sister. The same can be said for Ruby. Nothing wrong with shipping her, but why her brother of all people?. Anyone who thinks incest is okay needs pills. This is why I’m so embarrassed to say I’m an Oshi No Ko fan. no other place besides an anime forum would you see people go all out in support of incest |
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RobertBobert said: Trimethylglycine said: Trying to make fun of someone else's smartness @ unironicly declare yourself the winner of an argument - I find it incredibly cute how silly you look from the outside. I also love how you, like the other moral guardians here, instantly labeled me as an incest advocate just because I questioned your opinion. Go on.the fact you're vehemently defending your position on this is mind numbing. You're in the minority for a reason. Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are just remember: 1. People like you are the reason us anime watchers are viewed as losers and creeps 2. Your opinion is the minority because it's dog shit Yeah I win because my child won't have deficiencies from fucking my sister, seems you won't be able to say the same Questioning the opinion of "incest bad" is already a poor look. You're doing yourself no favors |
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TASM18 said: You really behave this way, because for an hour you have been unable to understand the meaning of a rather simple take on my part and continue to fight with a non-existent position even when you have been explained this several times.RobertBobert said: I'm doing this because you're too easy a book to read, that's all. Again, where did I say that incest is acceptable or even say anything about whether it is acceptable or not? You refuted your thesis that you didn't say anywhere that you see my position as "incest is cool" in the same comment in which you made it when you continued to claim that I consider incest acceptable just because I know that incest the taboo stems from its consequences for posterity. With the same logic, you can accuse all anthropologists, sexologists and historians of accepting incest because they also know how and why the incest taboo appeared. You keep providing my point with how condescending you are it's really annoying. Also for some reason you keep refuting the fact that you said that incest is only looked down upon because of "moral guardians" and production problems and keep saying that you've never said that which you did. Also please for the love of God stop with the "I know everything about you" act. I'm trying to have a civil conversation with you so please stop acting like I'm a 12 year old kid or something. |
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Trimethylglycine said: Oh, now you have literally become aggressive, trying to get me to make excuses and even more openly declare yourself the winner. You even began to follow this thread to instantly answer me. Go on, go on.RobertBobert said: Trying to make fun of someone else's smartness @ unironicly declare yourself the winner of an argument - I find it incredibly cute how silly you look from the outside. I also love how you, like the other moral guardians here, instantly labeled me as an incest advocate just because I questioned your opinion. Go on. just remember: 1. People like you are the reason us anime watchers are viewed as losers and creeps 2. You're opinion is the minority because it's dog shit Yeah I win because my child won't have deficiencies from fucking my sister, seems you won't be able to say the same |
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Trimethylglycine said: Fukoku said: This…is one of the greatest replies I’ve seen. Im actually surprised by the amount of incest defenders there are. But I’m done explaining simple concepts to them. I’ve tried but they’re too brain dead for simple reasons why this ship wouldn’t work to get through their heads. There’s nothing wrong with shipping Aqua with characters but out of all of them, they chose his sister. The same can be said for Ruby. Nothing wrong with shipping her, but why her brother of all people?. Anyone who thinks incest is okay needs pills. This is why I’m so embarrassed to say I’m an Oshi No Ko fan. no other place besides an anime forum would you see people go all out in support of incest Yep, I did not realize that until today. |
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