Oh, You Can (Not) Redo, interesting title (everytime I checked before this hadn't appeared yet, guess it's been a while).
Interesting propositions for 4.0/FINAL (lawl'd @ Run away & pass), how 'bout You Can (Not) Survive (also works with Escape like newnar said)? Director always loves doing out of scale endings (well, especially EoE) so it sounds good for a final title.
HunterHearts said: I don't agree with the rebuild of eva being a sequel, the cycle thory sure sounds interesting, but it's just not tangible enough or that believable, I would just see it as how anno put it, just a rebuild. Surely theres alot of eva theories out there but I don't wanna over-anaylze things
WolfWood37 said: Not to mention the spear already being in space, those curious little things Kaworu said about Shinji at the end of both movies, why Mari seems to know Shinji without ever meeting him before (the Asuka theory).
They are real subtle changes that you catch if you've seen the original series that just make you think.
Agreed with WolfWood37 for the sequel point (disagree with mari/asuka theory, don't know what people have said about it but for the small amount that you've brought up there's nothing to work with). My first time watching both 1.0 and 2.0 kind of gave that cycle impression, and I've recently re-watched both and only Kaworu heavily hints it.
The spear is also a good observation (noticed it but it didn't register as abnormal until I saw your post). In EoE there are multiple spears that resemble Longinus' though so it could simply be not-unique? You still see the spear (the one Rei drew out and threw into space in NGE iirc) stabbing Lilith in 1.0 and 2.0.
Anyway:
End of first movie: "Not the Third again. You never change, do you?"
After ED of 2nd movie (the strongest hint): "This time, I'll definitely... make you happy."
It has cycle vibes. Whether it works as a cycle in the sequel sense sounds weird though. I simply believe it to be an alternative outcome of the NGE series (same for how EoE is an alternate ending to NGE). I've always just tended to ignore Kaworu because of his gay vibes, which is why I rather wait for 3.0+FINAL (simultaneous release iirc?).
And Mari knowing about Shinji could simply be due to infiltrating NERV's database or being told of him by her superiors in the USA. It's most likely the same as how Asuka knew about Shinji beforehand because he was Ikari's son. Take this for example: if you saw Obama on the street you'd recognize him without having personally met him before, and he doesn't know you. Same thing, different setting/characters.
Red/Blue ocean theory: It's more impressive/shocking to see a red ocean. To impress the viewer even more, you use a red ocean. It doesn't necessarily mean something, and it makes more sense with the effects of the second impact than in NGE imo. Some changes like these can be as corrections to the originals, we can't be sure atm.
Seeing as how different to NGE the movies will now be (1.0 being quasi-similar; 2.0 really started to change with new character and 9th+10th angel situations being completely different), I wonder how everything will turn out. I don't expect it to end up predictable, stopped expecting that from this director when I first saw the originals 10 years or so ago. He'll do whatever the hell he wants.
And ofc: pirate eye-patch Asuka, rawr.
PS: Only checked page 3, sorry if I was redundant, but I only replied to posts on page 3 anyway so I think it's not really the case. |