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Feb 15, 2023 8:54 AM

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I would say Kage No is more so average 7 lacking much of a unique identity that the top isekai have.  It is no Re Zero where the mc can get demolished for making a bad move.  It does not exactly have the world building of Mushoku Tensei.  It appeals to a certain style of humor not found in Konosuba or Fabinku.  It can still be enjoyed though.   Also, stuff like Bookworm, Overlord, and Reincarnated as a Slime are up there too.
Feb 15, 2023 12:32 PM
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one of the tops
for acting outside the box...
but not #1

but perosnally
my #1 is OVERLORD

& if your talking character wise...
#1 "atla" from rising of shield hero
Feb 16, 2023 4:53 AM
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No and it's not even close
Feb 16, 2023 5:10 AM
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I enjoyed it. The MC is OP, I love this MC craziness.
Feb 20, 2023 12:19 AM

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Nope this was at best, 20 episodes of wasted money, resulting in a lackluster comedy Isekai. At worst it was a cringey and at times not generic, but boring show, that you don't need to pay attention to, since it isn't meant to be taken seriously anyway.
Jun 2, 2023 9:07 AM
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Hard to say. Audience in Japan and other countries react differently. Also person's tastes differ too.
For example, "ClassicaLoid". Non Japanese viewers didn't like it much, on MAL it got 6.42. But I loved this show. What happened? It got second season.
Now this "Kage no Jitsuryokusha ni Naritakute!" I couldn't finish even second episode, I dislike it, but show got 8.33. It got second season too.
So for some it will be "best big isekai", for others another crap.
Jun 2, 2023 7:30 PM
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Ysrwii said:
Hard to say. Audience in Japan and other countries react differently. Also person's tastes differ too.
For example, "ClassicaLoid". Non Japanese viewers didn't like it much, on MAL it got 6.42. But I loved this show. What happened? It got second season.
Now this "Kage no Jitsuryokusha ni Naritakute!" I couldn't finish even second episode, I dislike it, but show got 8.33. It got second season too.
So for some it will be "best big isekai", for others another crap.
stop,u cannot force
Jun 3, 2023 3:57 AM
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Sayan_Pal said:
stop,u cannot force
No one is forcing and I'm free to express my opinion.
Jun 3, 2023 7:59 AM
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Over the years the isekai genre has gotten wider and more saturated. But I don’t think their have been as many big hitters as their used to be(MT aside), I don’t think anything has really reached the popularity level that ngnl, Tensura, konosuba, rezero or overlord reached. In fact it’s rare for an isekai to ever even reach an 8 on MAL. But I personally think that at the very least this show can get to Overlord popularity. So do you guys think this will be the next big isekai?

Edit: People…the question wasn’t “Will it be the best isekai?” Hell nah I know it’s not gonna be. I’m asking if you think it’s the next big popular isekai that a lot of people will come to recognize as one of the main shows in the genre 😂

Eminence is already my most fav isekai of all time.
Jun 3, 2023 7:59 AM
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No idea, isekai has been getting weird:
https://j-novel.club/series/reincarnated-as-an-apple

Recently, we have a Reincarnated As A High Ranking Nazi Official in the WN sites.

The next big isekai I can think of are Modern Villainess and Dahlia.
I predict that Modern Villainess will do well in Asia (including Southeast Asia), but flops outside Asia because knowledge in Asian economies are required.
Dahlia is the romance type isekai. Very Korean-drama.

Eminence In Shadow is one of the biggest isekai titles in Japan too. It reached 2 million sales before Volume 5. It took Seirei Gensouki 19 Volumes to reach 2 million sales.

EDIT: Eminence In Shadow LN sales is 3.5 million before Volume 5.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/live/QDoahfkRXUg?feature=share

Now it has reached 4 million sales
Jun 3, 2023 7:26 PM
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Apratim said:
NewestPersonHere said:
No idea, isekai has been getting weird:
https://j-novel.club/series/reincarnated-as-an-apple

Recently, we have a Reincarnated As A High Ranking Nazi Official in the WN sites.

The next big isekai I can think of are Modern Villainess and Dahlia.
I predict that Modern Villainess will do well in Asia (including Southeast Asia), but flops outside Asia because knowledge in Asian economies are required.
Dahlia is the romance type isekai. Very Korean-drama.

Eminence In Shadow is one of the biggest isekai titles in Japan too. It reached 2 million sales before Volume 5. It took Seirei Gensouki 19 Volumes to reach 2 million sales.

EDIT: Eminence In Shadow LN sales is 3.5 million before Volume 5.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/live/QDoahfkRXUg?feature=share

Now it has reached 4 million sales
it may get season three, right
Jun 4, 2023 1:23 AM
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Sayan_Pal said:
Apratim said:

Now it has reached 4 million sales
it may get season three, right

Yep I guess. If it gets then it will be awesome news
Jun 4, 2023 9:42 AM

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It is one of the trashiest I have seen, that's the only thing I'm sure of.
Jun 4, 2023 7:14 PM
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It is one of the trashiest I have seen, that's the only thing I'm sure of.
u are trashiest,if u not like just ignore,this is good, u cannot force others to believe u or change others opinion, u cannot say others to drop it
Sep 14, 2023 2:10 PM
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Nope i drop this anime in eps 10
MC very childish and very annoying
Sep 14, 2023 7:35 PM
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Nope i drop this anime in eps 10
MC very childish and very annoying
@Daey u are chidish and annoying
Sep 14, 2023 7:35 PM
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Nope i drop this anime in eps 10
MC very childish and very annoying
@Daey if u not like ignore, u cannot force others to drop it
Sep 16, 2023 11:12 AM
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as a successor to those previous legendary isekais, i definitely agree
i haven't seen anything as entertaining as this isekai since konosuba/rezero era
(MT Aside ofc cuz it's on its own plain)
Sep 19, 2023 1:12 PM
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@Daey if u not like ignore, u cannot force others to drop it
@Sayan_Pal look on the question "Do you think this is the best big isekai?" The creator of this post asked the audience's opinion about this anime and I was part of that audience. what's wrong with me giving my opinion?
Sep 19, 2023 1:18 PM
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I see you are fanboy LOL
Sep 19, 2023 1:36 PM

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Yes and by a long shot. All the people calling it just "trashy fun" don't seem to understand the show at all despite it not being that complex or are just imitating gikkuk
Sep 19, 2023 8:35 PM
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@Sayan_Pal look on the question "Do you think this is the best big isekai?" The creator of this post asked the audience's opinion about this anime and I was part of that audience. what's wrong with me giving my opinion?
@Daey but u cannot force others to believe u or drop it
Oct 12, 2023 4:10 PM

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best big isekai? bro its way at the bottom tier. i still cant believe i made it 9 eps in. such mediocre writing and characterization the fact this rated higher then a 6.50 is why anime is failing

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Oct 12, 2023 7:48 PM
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best big isekai? bro its way at the bottom tier. i still cant believe i made it 9 eps in. such mediocre writing and characterization the fact this rated higher then a 6.50 is why anime is failing
@KuroLion it is good anime, if u not like then ignore, but u cannot force others to drop it or u Have no right to force others to change their opinion and u cannot force other to change ther view
Oct 14, 2023 6:57 PM

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@KuroLion it is good anime, if u not like then ignore, but u cannot force others to drop it or u Have no right to force others to change their opinion and u cannot force other to change ther view
@Sayan_Pal just listed an opinion based on long time anime watching and observable facts over the course of anime's more recent trend shifts. nowhere in there did i attempt to force anyone into anything lol. try reading my comment again i guess *shrug* its immature comedy and boring pacing accomplish nothing. OP asked for opinions, so here we are. always humorous to see the young crowd get triggered though so thanks for that ;)

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Oct 14, 2023 7:12 PM
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@Sayan_Pal just listed an opinion based on long time anime watching and observable facts over the course of anime's more recent trend shifts. nowhere in there did i attempt to force anyone into anything lol. try reading my comment again i guess *shrug* its immature comedy and boring pacing accomplish nothing. OP asked for opinions, so here we are. always humorous to see the young crowd get triggered though so thanks for that ;)
@KuroLion if u not like then ignore
Oct 14, 2023 8:09 PM

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@KuroLion if u not like then ignore
@Sayan_Pal im allowed to list my opinions when its solicited. if you're triggered due to fanboying, you can ignore it :) its great you found a show you enjoy but stop attacking people that dont like it. i can see the appeal here for teens but not many older watchers are gonna like it.

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Oct 14, 2023 8:36 PM

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@Sayan_Pal im allowed to list my opinions when its solicited. if you're triggered due to fanboying, you can ignore it :) its great you found a show you enjoy but stop attacking people that dont like it. i can see the appeal here for teens but not many older watchers are gonna like it.
@KuroLion I can't believe someone with solo leveling has a nerve to act as if they are more mature than people liking this.

Lemme give you advice tho, that dude is weird, genuinely thought they are some kind of bot at first.
Oct 14, 2023 8:40 PM
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@Sayan_Pal im allowed to list my opinions when its solicited. if you're triggered due to fanboying, you can ignore it :) its great you found a show you enjoy but stop attacking people that dont like it. i can see the appeal here for teens but not many older watchers are gonna like it.
@KuroLion many older people like it
Oct 14, 2023 8:40 PM
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@KuroLion I can't believe someone with solo leveling has a nerve to act as if they are more mature than people liking this.

Lemme give you advice tho, that dude is weird, genuinely thought they are some kind of bot at first.
@EdgyLord666 i am not a bot and u also like this show
Oct 14, 2023 8:58 PM

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@KuroLion I can't believe someone with solo leveling has a nerve to act as if they are more mature than people liking this.

Lemme give you advice tho, that dude is weird, genuinely thought they are some kind of bot at first.
@EdgyLord666 not what i said at all. i said not as many older people are going to enjoy it vs a younger audience, not older people are more mature then people who enjoy this. that comment was based on the comedy style, its a style used for targeting younger audiences and thats just a fact. dont put words in my mouth.

also we arent talking about solo leveling which is ranked hundred above this one in both popularity and ranking. and for a reason. it kicked off and trendset a whole genre of webtoons and art style copycats. that should be commendable even if you didnt care much for the story. although compared to this show solo leveling has a much more complex story and character depth and that says alot. shadow garden is just way too one dimensional in almost every way. it also not fair to compare a comedy heavy series and an action heavy series together. not the same at all to do proper parallel analysis.

and yes that dude is a bot lol

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Oct 14, 2023 11:30 PM
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@EdgyLord666 not what i said at all. i said not as many older people are going to enjoy it vs a younger audience, not older people are more mature then people who enjoy this. that comment was based on the comedy style, its a style used for targeting younger audiences and thats just a fact. dont put words in my mouth.

also we arent talking about solo leveling which is ranked hundred above this one in both popularity and ranking. and for a reason. it kicked off and trendset a whole genre of webtoons and art style copycats. that should be commendable even if you didnt care much for the story. although compared to this show solo leveling has a much more complex story and character depth and that says alot. shadow garden is just way too one dimensional in almost every way. it also not fair to compare a comedy heavy series and an action heavy series together. not the same at all to do proper parallel analysis.

and yes that dude is a bot lol
@KuroLion i am not a bot
Oct 15, 2023 12:06 AM

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@EdgyLord666 not what i said at all. i said not as many older people are going to enjoy it vs a younger audience, not older people are more mature then people who enjoy this. that comment was based on the comedy style, its a style used for targeting younger audiences and thats just a fact. dont put words in my mouth.

also we arent talking about solo leveling which is ranked hundred above this one in both popularity and ranking. and for a reason. it kicked off and trendset a whole genre of webtoons and art style copycats. that should be commendable even if you didnt care much for the story. although compared to this show solo leveling has a much more complex story and character depth and that says alot. shadow garden is just way too one dimensional in almost every way. it also not fair to compare a comedy heavy series and an action heavy series together. not the same at all to do proper parallel analysis.

and yes that dude is a bot lol
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based on the comedy style, its a style used for targeting younger audiences and thats just a fact

Elaborate how this is a fact?

Also I won't even argue to someone who believes SL has "a much more complex story and character depth". We've seen too different things that it's just useless.
Oct 15, 2023 12:33 AM

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Isekai standards have really fallen down if this is considered best big isekai.
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Oct 15, 2023 2:28 AM
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Isekai standards have really fallen down if this is considered best big isekai.
@nishant0 u asshole,if u not like then ignore ,u have no right to force others,u cannot force other to drop it,this is good isekai ,u cannot force your opinion to others
Oct 15, 2023 2:53 AM

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@nishant0 u asshole,if u not like then ignore ,u have no right to force others,u cannot force other to drop it,this is good isekai ,u cannot force your opinion to others
@Sayan_Pal I never forced anyone. Well, No wonder you are a fan of this anime.
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Oct 15, 2023 1:08 PM

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based on the comedy style, its a style used for targeting younger audiences and thats just a fact

Elaborate how this is a fact?

Also I won't even argue to someone who believes SL has "a much more complex story and character depth". We've seen too different things that it's just useless.
@EdgyLord666 you cant really think shadow garden has a real story or any character depth lol either that or you just dont know what that means. your standards are low and/or you probably should experience more anime.

we get it your profile location is shadow garden and you rate everything associated with it a perfect 10. you are biased and thats fine but dont act like its more then just an episodic comedy show thats been done a thousand times. but expected from someone named edgelord lol

i also see you gave shows like i am hero and lovely complex a 5 and 6 respectively and those are widely considered top of class even to some of todays standards. in fact they even got live action adaptations due to popularity. come back when you are qualified or wanna use some real words to have an actual discussion. this "you're wrong and solo leveling making you trash" is the weakest argument i have ever seen kid

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Oct 15, 2023 1:12 PM

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@Sayan_Pal I never forced anyone. Well, No wonder you are a fan of this anime.
@nishant0 ignore that bot lol you right about the isekai standards. this year they clearly focusing on some bottom of the barrel mangas to adapt

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Oct 15, 2023 1:32 PM

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@KuroLion i am not a bot
Bro, you act like a bot with every reply. You sound more of an NPC than Cid.
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Oct 15, 2023 2:26 PM

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@EdgyLord666 you cant really think shadow garden has a real story or any character depth lol either that or you just dont know what that means. your standards are low and/or you probably should experience more anime.

we get it your profile location is shadow garden and you rate everything associated with it a perfect 10. you are biased and thats fine but dont act like its more then just an episodic comedy show thats been done a thousand times. but expected from someone named edgelord lol

i also see you gave shows like i am hero and lovely complex a 5 and 6 respectively and those are widely considered top of class even to some of todays standards. in fact they even got live action adaptations due to popularity. come back when you are qualified or wanna use some real words to have an actual discussion. this "you're wrong and solo leveling making you trash" is the weakest argument i have ever seen kid
@KuroLion sir, I'm asking how it is a fact, already said how I won't argue with you, no need to get personal, maybe just try to answer it, instead of exposing your immaturity.

But yes Eminence complex story, character depth > SL story, character.
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@KuroLion sir, I'm asking how it is a fact, already said how I won't argue with you, no need to get personal, maybe just try to answer it, instead of exposing your immaturity.

But yes Eminence complex story, character depth > SL story, character.
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Eminence complex story, character depth > SL story, character.


hahahaha eminence has a complex story?...ok fanboy.

and you need me to explain how some types of humor are used for targeting younger audiences? /facepalm... anime is doomed kid

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Eminence complex story, character depth > SL story, character.


hahahaha eminence has a complex story?...ok fanboy.

and you need me to explain how some types of humor are used for targeting younger audiences? /facepalm... anime is doomed kid
@KuroLion Yeah sure you can't answer it, just say it dude.
Oct 16, 2023 9:56 AM

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@KuroLion Yeah sure you can't answer it, just say it dude.
@EdgyLord666 i did answer it. some types of comedy are used for younger audiences. how does that need more explanation? if that needs more explanation you dont know enough about story telling to have a discussion. this conversation has run its course fanbro.

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Oct 16, 2023 2:53 PM

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@EdgyLord666 i did answer it. some types of comedy are used for younger audiences. how does that need more explanation? if that needs more explanation you dont know enough about story telling to have a discussion. this conversation has run its course fanbro.
@KuroLion but my question is, "how is that a fact?"
Oct 22, 2023 4:05 AM

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Maybe? It's certainly quite unique, and one of the better Isekai I've seen. But it's far from being the best. I absolutely love the chuuni shit and I love bigger than life characters. The problem is his "I am NPC" facade can be too much at times to the point of reducing my experience with the series.
Dual persona protagonist has been done multiple times before. For example, Code Geass has this too, but they pulled it off really well and make it easy to like both sides; Both Lelouch persona and Zero persona are very likeable despite being very different.
I never been a fan of the listless, emotionless type of characters, so I'm really not a fan of the NPC Cid persona and how he's so nonchalant to everything despite him supposed to be "the average NPC man." But his Shadow persona is unironically one of the most fun character I've ever seen.

It's still better than the average Isekai for sure, plot feels generic but not exactly a bad thing. And the worldbuilding and side characters is quite enjoyable. But there are plenty scenes that hinders the fun. If I had to say something about the series, is that this has some sort of identity crisis.
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