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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Goddamn, Roy... I was expecting -something- to happen to him, but not expecting him to go -blind- after crossing the gate... Hiromu Arakawa is a genius. Al sees his nekkid, skinny body, and rejects it to better fight Father. Al, you bighearted idiot. So brave and yet, you going back gave Father exactly what he wanted... |
ArnoldKDec 9, 2009 6:53 PM
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ArnoldK said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Goddamn, Roy... I was expecting -something- to happen to him, but not expecting him to go -blind- after crossing the gate... Hiromu Arakawa is a genius. Al sees his nekkid, skinny body, and rejects it to better fight Father. Al, you bighearted idiot. So brave and yet, you going back gave Father exactly what he wanted... you forgot to mention scar vs. wrath :) lol |
| Although Mustang can be annoying... his punishment is kinda severe..I mean ...eyesight? thats one heck of a pain..and pride humoring about it.noticed how pride is also dying ..i think..his cheeks falling off..and now we know why the truth takes certain parts of peoples bodies.makes sense..Overall an impressive chapter.. |
ArondightDec 9, 2009 8:22 PM
| When Roy was brought to the gate for some reason I just knew he was going to lose his eyesight...and it actually happened ;__; Poor Roy, that's a big loss. |
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| This was easily one of the most depressing chapters of Fullmetal Alchemist, ever. Just. fjdjfkdjfksdjfkl FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF T_____T ROY!!!! AL!!!! ;___; |
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| DOT DOT FUCKING DOT Roy D: Hang in there...You think he'll be able to fight despite that? I want him to become fuhrer, God damn it D: I literally WTF'd when he said it's pitch black...I wanna Geass him with 'Live!' Scar vs Wrath, wtf, I wanted Ling to finish the job...but yeah, two nameless guys against one another is good enough. And Alphonse...I want to hug him D: He's just the biggest Woobie in the world. I almost cried when he left the body there and went back...although doing that will just give Father what he had wanted... Can't wait for 103. DAMN IT ROY |
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| Gotta feel for Al. Couldn't retake his body because of how useless it'd be, that's harsh. No one got screwed like Roy, though. That's just bad :'< Really sucks having truth take his eyesight. Gah, this was just horrendously depressing. Scar and Wrath is pretty ridiculous too, though I was hoping Scar would make his way down to the other five. At any rate, no complaint other than the fact it felt so short. Now we must wait another month and let this boil over. I'mma go cry about Mustang now. |
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| -Bradley was badass. Again. (why bother mentioning it?) -Roy can't see his dreams fulfilled -AL rejects his body to help everyone Great Chapter "Who will be remembered as the one who took my life?" |
| I really don't think Roy saw that one coming. Maybe it was a lack of foresight, but it really was clear to see that was what was going to happen. |
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| - Wrath is officially most badass character in history of Earth. Seriously, his "Whow ill e the one to take my life" line was overly epic. You just CAN'T hate the bastard. - Mustang...oh Mustang...Thats just... - Alphonse at the gate scene too... Agreed thats the most depressing fma chapter ever. |
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| Kudos for Arakawa. :(( Never thought Roy would blind after he passed the gate. And AL. Such a brave decision, you. But I often wonder, why Al's body could talk something like that if his soul is in another place ? I want the chapter 103 right now, actually. :( 1 month...1 month... |
Fai said: -You just CAN'T hate the bastard. Couldn't agree with you more. No matter what he does or who he kills, he's just oozing awesome to the point you forget all about it. |
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| Indeed one of the most depressing FMA chapters... Roys Blind - Al body reject - nameless vs nameless etc But Roy being blinded sigh I feared something like this. Oh and I dont hate bradley BUT I was a bit "WHY ARENT YOU DEAD" as I wanted Ling/Greed to finish him Well whos to say what will happen by the end we might wind up with everyone with 'normal' bodies again. Unknown |
sirwence said: Well whos to say what will happen by the end we might wind up with everyone with 'normal' bodies again. Unknown That's a little too nice and neat for Arakawa, though. I like the idea of permanent consequences to human transmutation be permanent. A big, magical reset wouldn't work with this series. It would be more fitting if they gave up that search for their normal bodies but acquired an experience even greater in the long run. |
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| OH SHI- Is the first thing I'll have to say O.O Roy D: And suddenly the Truth makes so much more sense O.o Then Al abandoned his body so he could fight xD "Well I'll go get it later"-style But wait.. What's his body on about after his soul left?o.O My WTF-sense is tingling like crazy : D Haven't felt this excited in a loooooong time, too bad the chapter ended right there D: |
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| this chapter is just another sad realization that FMA probably wont end with a 1000% happy ending >< |
meredisu said: (err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) I was wondering about that too? I would imagine given everything that has happened already that he no longer needs equivalent exchange either. |
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| Roooy TT that's all. |
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| Poor Alphonse, though you really couldn't have expected him to get his body back just yet. Mustang going blind was the biggest shocker here. Him being able to use fire without the gloves would be totally bad ass though. |
Suzune-chan said: meredisu said: (err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) I was wondering about that too? I would imagine given everything that has happened already that he no longer needs equivalent exchange either. Technically.. he should be able to transmute without the gloves now.. But wait a sec, equivalent exchange is still in effect, right? I mean, that's always there unless you have a philosopher's stone |
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Oosran said: Suzune-chan said: meredisu said: (err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) I was wondering about that too? I would imagine given everything that has happened already that he no longer needs equivalent exchange either. Technically.. he should be able to transmute without the gloves now.. But wait a sec, equivalent exchange is still in effect, right? I mean, that's always there unless you have a philosopher's stone Ed and Isumi can transmute without the exchange. Since Roy went though the gate, he should have the same rules applying to him. |
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Suzune-chan said: Oosran said: Suzune-chan said: meredisu said: (err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) I was wondering about that too? I would imagine given everything that has happened already that he no longer needs equivalent exchange either. Technically.. he should be able to transmute without the gloves now.. But wait a sec, equivalent exchange is still in effect, right? I mean, that's always there unless you have a philosopher's stone Ed and Isumi can transmute without the exchange. Since Roy went though the gate, he should have the same rules applying to him. no they cant....you need a philosophers stone for that....thats why ed and al were seeking it to get their bodies back.....if they didnt have the exchange requirement they would've just done it themselves lol |
suigetsu00 said: Suzune-chan said: Oosran said: Suzune-chan said: meredisu said: (err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) I was wondering about that too? I would imagine given everything that has happened already that he no longer needs equivalent exchange either. Technically.. he should be able to transmute without the gloves now.. But wait a sec, equivalent exchange is still in effect, right? I mean, that's always there unless you have a philosopher's stone Ed and Isumi can transmute without the exchange. Since Roy went though the gate, he should have the same rules applying to him. no they cant....you need a philosophers stone for that....thats why ed and al were seeking it to get their bodies back.....if they didnt have the exchange requirement they would've just done it themselves lol Ah, I see the mistake. Let me rephrase. Ed can do Alchemy without a circle. So Roy should be able to now just snap his finger without need of the gloves. Just a thought... |
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| Exactly, was going to point out the difference between equivalent exchange and transmutation circles, but it didn't really feel necessary ^^; |
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| ...I don't think Roy can just snap his fingers... He still needs the spark cloth, I would think. He just doesn't need the circle that's on the gloves. So long as he can get that spark. What I was really confused about was how Al's soul was talking to his body. Is his soul split and part of it's still in the body? Is Truth hanging out in Al's body for these times? Is there something else entirely inhabiting Al's body while the soul is away? How the heck did that scene work? Knowing me, this is one of those things you're not supposed to notice, but with the evil Al body at the end of that part, there's reason to believe there's something else at work there. Also, if Al had returned with his body, would he still have been a sacrifice or would the entire thing be null and void (because having an out like that and not knowing it would be awesome and ridiculous). Guess we'll find out next month. =/ |
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Oosran said: Exactly, was going to point out the difference between equivalent exchange and transmutation circles, but it didn't really feel necessary ^^; lol ^^ |
ArnoldK said: sirwence said: Well whos to say what will happen by the end we might wind up with everyone with 'normal' bodies again. Unknown That's a little too nice and neat for Arakawa, though. I like the idea of permanent consequences to human transmutation be permanent. A big, magical reset wouldn't work with this series. It would be more fitting if they gave up that search for their normal bodies but acquired an experience even greater in the long run. Either Ed or Al will die o.O I'm betting on Ed. ehehe. ...actually, Anyone Can Die in this series o.o That's so cool. Just...not Ling, please... My prediction: Roy will save the day and die. And then Ling will be emperor and rule over Xing AND Amestris, which will be ridden of the military-use alchemy. And all the female soldiers will be wearing tiny miniskirts in honour of the fallen comrade. -sniff- I made myself cry. No I didn't. But almost. Crack theories anyone? I'm bored. |
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| One of the best and most cruel chapters ever made. Arakawa, I love you so much. T^T edit: Either Ed or Al will die o.O I'm betting on Ed. ehehe. I'll die when Ed dies. Too much awesome character development going over the river + one of my most favorite characters of all time. I can't stand the thought of him dying without having produced a few sweat children with Winry. T.T Well, I'm betting on Hohenheim. Something like him sacrificing himself for his sons in a last attempt to act like a parent... or somthing like this. |
kennikittyDec 10, 2009 2:56 PM
AriSky said: What I was really confused about was how Al's soul was talking to his body. Is his soul split and part of it's still in the body? Is Truth hanging out in Al's body for these times? Is there something else entirely inhabiting Al's body while the soul is away? How the heck did that scene work? This is second or third-hand information that I can't verify offhand, so take it with a huge grain of salt, but I did read somwhere that Arakawa confirmed when the Al body at the gate talks, it's not actually Al but rather Truth talking in Al's body. I'll find a reference if I can. As for Al Body's cryptic last comments I took it as a sign that going back like Al did would give Father exactly what he wants- all five sacrifices. |
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| Already said, but amazing chapter. |
| Dx roy won't get to see his wish come true... poor hughes.... Dx well, it was cool to see al reject his body... |
| I certainly didn't expect Roy to lose his sight of all things, but with Alphonse's return all 5 are now gathered, the long awaited for event is about to take place. |
meredisu said: Roy shouldn't be using his flame alchemy because he can't see where to pinpoint his flames. That could be very dangerous and harm others in the vicinity.(err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) |
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| Man i'm so sad that Roy lost his eyesight.....maybe somehow he can get it back like how Al can get his body back as well as Ed's arm. i dunno, but it's so depressing |
| what an EPIC chapter!! Roy losing his eyes was even a greater shock than Alphonse rejecting his body. |
| Btw, is it just me, or is there a striking resemblance between the Truth and the original Humunculus? O.o (as in the guy who was called Father) Until he took in Hohenheim into his body, 'cause then he got fat x) And sorry I couldn't find pictures to compare the two : p (yeah I was too lazy to take a good look) |
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meredisu said: Yeah, pretty epic and sad chapter. But Roy...Roy's not one to give up I don't think. So I want to know what he's going to do next. And Al, he's pretty brave, but it shows just how much he cares for those people. Can't wait to know what happens next. (err, can Roy use alchemy without gloves now?) Entering the gate means the alchemists can use their own bodies as transmutation circles, since they've seen "the truth". So theoretically, the only difference if Roy were to use his fire alchemy, is he'd have the ability to clap his hands together to make a circle, instead of requiring one be drawn on his gloves. He'd still need a source of spark though probably. My guess is that the transmutation circle on Hawkeye's back is gonna help Roy actively participate in the fight again though. |
| There's no use for Roy to create his mini-skirt army now. It was very heroic of Alphonse to leave his body at the gate, but Truth sure is a bitch. Guess he knows what will happen. Besides, I guess that Al might actually drop dead immediately when he gets his body back. |
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DragonsWhip said: Besides, I guess that Al might actually drop dead immediately when he gets his body back. That's what I thought when I saw that body of his for the first time o.O |
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| Awesome chapter. Any one else recalls the foreshadowing from earlier? http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/39/38/ I guess what she wanted came true ;_; |
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Xelzy said: Awesome chapter. Any one else recalls the foreshadowing from earlier? http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/39/38/ I guess what she wanted came true ;_; you know....thats a nice catch lol |
Xelzy said: Awesome chapter. Any one else recalls the foreshadowing from earlier? http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/39/38/ I guess what she wanted came true ;_; Whoa, nice o.o Didn't remember that... |
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| Gah, I vote for weekly update... Poor Roy.. losing an arm, you can have automail, but your eyesight... you can't fix that. Truth is indeed cruel with its fitting punishment. |
Ciran said: Gah, I vote for weekly update... yeah but that would only make the end come faster lol and they would only be half as long >.> |
| Don't worry Roy. I'm sure when this is all over you'll have the eyes of one of the greatest snipers ever to see for you ;_; |
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