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Nov 6, 2021 4:57 PM

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Crow_Black said:
The sooner an anti gets their hands at somethign sooner its ruined.
what even is anti? why they even matter?

EndlessMaria said:
rohan121 said:
Woke involves 3 may concepts.

1. Affirmative Action
prioritize non-white characters.
(Very common in advertisements)
(Basic Hollywood procedures)
Trying to fulfill racial quotas.

2. Pushing propaganda
(Ie like the Dragon Maid dub reference to patriarchy)
(Also Prison School dub referencing gamergate)

3. Censorship/Implementation
(Ie make women more masculine)
(Ie turn characters gay)

Most of this applies to US media, and it is everywhere there.

If this is what woke means now then I'm going back to bed.

This actually has the opposite effect of its intention. Say, just for example, a well written show has good gay characters. People are getting so sick of woke culture now that they perceive anything like that to be woke propaganda and not bother with it even if the show's approach is natural and not forced in any way.


slight reminder old shoujo has lot positive portrayal of girl's love comparatively at the time social context. first magnum opus osamu tezuka made after astro boy is about japanese jews fighting hitler influence in japan. i guess japan ALWAYS HAS BEEN woke all along.
KumaNov 6, 2021 5:00 PM
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Kuma said:
Crow_Black said:
The sooner an anti gets their hands at somethign sooner its ruined.
what even is anti? why they even matter?


anti is another term for anti intelectual purtian trying to enforce their own rules and ways of living to another culture.

Nov 6, 2021 5:08 PM

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Crow_Black said:
Kuma said:
what even is anti? why they even matter?


anti is another term for anti intelectual purtian trying to enforce their own rules and ways of living to another culture.
umm... if they didn't pay, they aren't costumer. why would they even heard?
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Nov 6, 2021 5:12 PM
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Kuma said:
Crow_Black said:


anti is another term for anti intelectual purtian trying to enforce their own rules and ways of living to another culture.
umm... if they didn't pay, they aren't costumer. why would they even heard?


Its all about control through outrage politics and narcissism thats what it is.

Nov 6, 2021 7:33 PM

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Kadokawa is now regretting their decision of taking 264 million dollars in Pooh money, they eliminated their greatest advantage against Chinese anime, free expression. How the mighty have fallen and hard on jagged rocks to boot.


Nov 7, 2021 12:43 AM

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Crow_Black said:
Kuma said:
umm... if they didn't pay, they aren't costumer. why would they even heard?
Its all about control through outrage politics and narcissism thats what it is.
if it breaks the laws or close to it, sure. but even in the west for example, game of thrones didn't affected much by those things. let alone in japan.
Hoppy said:
Kadokawa is now regretting their decision of taking 264 million dollars in Pooh money, they eliminated their greatest advantage against Chinese anime, free expression. How the mighty have fallen and hard on jagged rocks to boot.
with CCP getting more and more strict to the entertainment industry, i wonder how much tencent which 4th largest share holder in kadokawa gonna have any say on anything from both side demand? also kadokawa still continue The irregular at magic high school which infamously xenophobic especially towards china.
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Nov 7, 2021 12:56 AM

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Anime slowly taking over the world.
Nov 7, 2021 4:17 AM

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Kuma said:
Crow_Black said:
The sooner an anti gets their hands at somethign sooner its ruined.
what even is anti? why they even matter?

EndlessMaria said:

If this is what woke means now then I'm going back to bed.

This actually has the opposite effect of its intention. Say, just for example, a well written show has good gay characters. People are getting so sick of woke culture now that they perceive anything like that to be woke propaganda and not bother with it even if the show's approach is natural and not forced in any way.


slight reminder old shoujo has lot positive portrayal of girl's love comparatively at the time social context. first magnum opus osamu tezuka made after astro boy is about japanese jews fighting hitler influence in japan. i guess japan ALWAYS HAS BEEN woke all along.


almost everyone should agree American woketardsim is not healthy for Manga and Anime community, regardless of your so called examples , if you can't agree then that's is a problem only you can solve within yourself

No one cares about examples of niche stuff you saying to try and justifier anything "insert reason here" can be done to almost any subject, any content, any context, that doesn't hold any weight or water.

instead trying act they way you are, how about understand simple part of it, majority of community including japan and west that are involved into anime and manga scene do not want it.

there is a reason why Comics america is all time low, and Manga has taken over the world and is far more popular, there is a huge difference in popularity , once you get woke you go broke.

You can simply google this information, plenty information online
Kuma said:
Crow_Black said:
The sooner an anti gets their hands at somethign sooner its ruined.
what even is anti? why they even matter?

EndlessMaria said:

If this is what woke means now then I'm going back to bed.

This actually has the opposite effect of its intention. Say, just for example, a well written show has good gay characters. People are getting so sick of woke culture now that they perceive anything like that to be woke propaganda and not bother with it even if the show's approach is natural and not forced in any way.


slight reminder old shoujo has lot positive portrayal of girl's love comparatively at the time social context. first magnum opus osamu tezuka made after astro boy is about japanese jews fighting hitler influence in japan. i guess japan ALWAYS HAS BEEN woke all along.


The simple truth is no one in japan or west wants "AMERICAN WOKE" and reason i cap AMERICA is i'm talking about that in the context to manga and anime.

There is reason why manga is now outselling and more popular then american comics, you simply just look at the woke content and gender swaping race swaping ect in comics to the drop off and compare up-take in Manga, the graphs are legit overlap with each-other exactly.

Many people would still love and care about Comics still if it wasn't so alienating and would continue be number one if the change in direction wasn't so virtual signaling.

This has nothing to do with if japan is woke or not because its not AMERICAN WOKE, and that is far different then what you trying to imply. one is covered in narcissism, psychotic , Virtual signaling , and list continues go on aka American Woke politics, and other is not even in same ball park, just go look at LA/hollywood ect, all the signs and of virtual signaling plastered everywhere on billboards , bus stops, walls, ect, in compare to Japan. there is no comparison and nothing to compare

Nov 7, 2021 8:19 AM

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joe_own said:
Kuma said:
what even is anti? why they even matter?



slight reminder old shoujo has lot positive portrayal of girl's love comparatively at the time social context. first magnum opus osamu tezuka made after astro boy is about japanese jews fighting hitler influence in japan. i guess japan ALWAYS HAS BEEN woke all along.


almost everyone should agree American woketardsim is not healthy for Manga and Anime community, regardless of your so called examples , if you can't agree then that's is a problem only you can solve within yourself

again, you don't exactly explain why it is bad for japan animation objectively other than it offend you puny feelings.

joe_own said:
No one cares about examples of niche stuff you saying to try and justifier anything "insert reason here" can be done to almost any subject, any content, any context, that doesn't hold any weight or water.


did you just call rose of versailas, ace wo narae, and onisama e niche? did you just call osamu tezuka works such as buddha, adolf ni tsugu and black jack niche? all of them are very progressive at the time. and most manga anime today still very progressive compare to general japan society.

joe_own said:
instead trying act they way you are, how about understand simple part of it, majority of community including japan and west that are involved into anime and manga scene do not want it.


eh, your opinion doesn't mean shit, this is industry for profit. they simply follow where the money goes. if those so you called "woke" people are the one paid for product, then the product will produced targeted on them, and so the reverse. as simple as that.

joe_own said:
there is a reason why Comics america is all time low, and Manga has taken over the world and is far more popular, there is a huge difference in popularity , once you get woke you go broke.


i don't remember that anti woke ever credited for manga rise in popularity. heck, most manga is very progressive even by western standard (i mean, JJK literally has lesbian couple on it). it mostly due to DIVERSITY of product offered. which mostly credited to strong protection of intellectual property of individual artist that give them lot of artistic freedom to japanese artist without much of big publisher control and editorial.

joe_own said:
You can simply google this information, plenty information online


i am asian live in asian nation. i barely even hear woke, let alone anti woke. and for my persepctive, manga and anime is progressive and show lot artistic freedom, and i like it because of that. i mean, comperatively to china and korea.

joe_own said:
There is reason why manga is now outselling and more popular then american comics, you simply just look at the woke content and gender swaping race swaping ect in comics to the drop off and compare up-take in Manga, the graphs are legit overlap with each-other exactly.


what do you mean? manga and anime always has been has lot of gender swapping race swapping stuff since it's origin.

joe_own said:
Many people would still love and care about Comics still if it wasn't so alienating and would continue be number one if the change in direction wasn't so virtual signaling.


alieneting to who? and why? i barely lead comic in my life and i have no interest on it so i barely understood issue behind it. all i know that US comics industry is monopolized by very few company giving artist lack of artistic freedom that didn't meet company demand. that's all i know. i always has been read manga and anime for the last 15 years.

joe_own said:
This has nothing to do with if japan is woke or not because its not AMERICAN WOKE, and that is far different then what you trying to imply. one is covered in narcissism, psychotic , Virtual signaling , and list continues go on aka American Woke politics, and other is not even in same ball park, just go look at LA/hollywood ect, all the signs and of virtual signaling plastered everywhere on billboards , bus stops, walls, ect, in compare to Japan. there is no comparison and nothing to compare
there is nothing to compare because the society issue in japan and US are different. and the fact that you try to bring "woke"-ism or anti "woke"ism without understanding the issue in japan it self is just very rose tinted glasses idealistic view of japanese society and in turn japanese artistic works as well. which also very Western-centrism on it's own.

MegamiRem said:
Anime slowly taking over the world.


soon brother, soon.

heck, oshi no ko is licensed in spain, germany, france and italy. still wondering why VIZ hasn't pick it up yet.
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on."
Nov 7, 2021 8:35 AM

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Kuma said:
joe_own said:


almost everyone should agree American woketardsim is not healthy for Manga and Anime community, regardless of your so called examples , if you can't agree then that's is a problem only you can solve within yourself

again, you don't exactly explain why it is bad for japan animation objectively other than it offend you puny feelings.

joe_own said:
No one cares about examples of niche stuff you saying to try and justifier anything "insert reason here" can be done to almost any subject, any content, any context, that doesn't hold any weight or water.


did you just call rose of versailas, ace wo narae, and onisama e niche? did you just call osamu tezuka works such as buddha, adolf ni tsugu and black jack niche? all of them are very progressive at the time. and most manga anime today still very progressive compare to general japan society.

joe_own said:
instead trying act they way you are, how about understand simple part of it, majority of community including japan and west that are involved into anime and manga scene do not want it.


eh, your opinion doesn't mean shit, this is industry for profit. they simply follow where the money goes. if those so you called "woke" people are the one paid for product, then the product will produced targeted on them, and so the reverse. as simple as that.

joe_own said:
there is a reason why Comics america is all time low, and Manga has taken over the world and is far more popular, there is a huge difference in popularity , once you get woke you go broke.


i don't remember that anti woke ever credited for manga rise in popularity. heck, most manga is very progressive even by western standard (i mean, JJK literally has lesbian couple on it). it mostly due to DIVERSITY of product offered. which mostly credited to strong protection of intellectual property of individual artist that give them lot of artistic freedom to japanese artist without much of big publisher control and editorial.

joe_own said:
You can simply google this information, plenty information online


i am asian live in asian nation. i barely even hear woke, let alone anti woke. and for my persepctive, manga and anime is progressive and show lot artistic freedom, and i like it because of that. i mean, comperatively to china and korea.

joe_own said:
There is reason why manga is now outselling and more popular then american comics, you simply just look at the woke content and gender swaping race swaping ect in comics to the drop off and compare up-take in Manga, the graphs are legit overlap with each-other exactly.


what do you mean? manga and anime always has been has lot of gender swapping race swapping stuff since it's origin.

joe_own said:
Many people would still love and care about Comics still if it wasn't so alienating and would continue be number one if the change in direction wasn't so virtual signaling.


alieneting to who? and why? i barely lead comic in my life and i have no interest on it so i barely understood issue behind it. all i know that US comics industry is monopolized by very few company giving artist lack of artistic freedom that didn't meet company demand. that's all i know. i always has been read manga and anime for the last 15 years.

joe_own said:
This has nothing to do with if japan is woke or not because its not AMERICAN WOKE, and that is far different then what you trying to imply. one is covered in narcissism, psychotic , Virtual signaling , and list continues go on aka American Woke politics, and other is not even in same ball park, just go look at LA/hollywood ect, all the signs and of virtual signaling plastered everywhere on billboards , bus stops, walls, ect, in compare to Japan. there is no comparison and nothing to compare
there is nothing to compare because the society issue in japan and US are different. and the fact that you try to bring "woke"-ism or anti "woke"ism without understanding the issue in japan it self is just very rose tinted glasses idealistic view of japanese society and in turn japanese artistic works as well. which also very Western-centrism on it's own.

MegamiRem said:
Anime slowly taking over the world.


soon brother, soon.

heck, oshi no ko is licensed in spain, germany, france and italy. still wondering why VIZ hasn't pick it up yet.
Kuma said:
joe_own said:


almost everyone should agree American woketardsim is not healthy for Manga and Anime community, regardless of your so called examples , if you can't agree then that's is a problem only you can solve within yourself

again, you don't exactly explain why it is bad for japan animation objectively other than it offend you puny feelings.

joe_own said:
No one cares about examples of niche stuff you saying to try and justifier anything "insert reason here" can be done to almost any subject, any content, any context, that doesn't hold any weight or water.


did you just call rose of versailas, ace wo narae, and onisama e niche? did you just call osamu tezuka works such as buddha, adolf ni tsugu and black jack niche? all of them are very progressive at the time. and most manga anime today still very progressive compare to general japan society.

joe_own said:
instead trying act they way you are, how about understand simple part of it, majority of community including japan and west that are involved into anime and manga scene do not want it.


eh, your opinion doesn't mean shit, this is industry for profit. they simply follow where the money goes. if those so you called "woke" people are the one paid for product, then the product will produced targeted on them, and so the reverse. as simple as that.

joe_own said:
there is a reason why Comics america is all time low, and Manga has taken over the world and is far more popular, there is a huge difference in popularity , once you get woke you go broke.


i don't remember that anti woke ever credited for manga rise in popularity. heck, most manga is very progressive even by western standard (i mean, JJK literally has lesbian couple on it). it mostly due to DIVERSITY of product offered. which mostly credited to strong protection of intellectual property of individual artist that give them lot of artistic freedom to japanese artist without much of big publisher control and editorial.

joe_own said:
You can simply google this information, plenty information online


i am asian live in asian nation. i barely even hear woke, let alone anti woke. and for my persepctive, manga and anime is progressive and show lot artistic freedom, and i like it because of that. i mean, comperatively to china and korea.

joe_own said:
There is reason why manga is now outselling and more popular then american comics, you simply just look at the woke content and gender swaping race swaping ect in comics to the drop off and compare up-take in Manga, the graphs are legit overlap with each-other exactly.


what do you mean? manga and anime always has been has lot of gender swapping race swapping stuff since it's origin.

joe_own said:
Many people would still love and care about Comics still if it wasn't so alienating and would continue be number one if the change in direction wasn't so virtual signaling.


alieneting to who? and why? i barely lead comic in my life and i have no interest on it so i barely understood issue behind it. all i know that US comics industry is monopolized by very few company giving artist lack of artistic freedom that didn't meet company demand. that's all i know. i always has been read manga and anime for the last 15 years.

joe_own said:
This has nothing to do with if japan is woke or not because its not AMERICAN WOKE, and that is far different then what you trying to imply. one is covered in narcissism, psychotic , Virtual signaling , and list continues go on aka American Woke politics, and other is not even in same ball park, just go look at LA/hollywood ect, all the signs and of virtual signaling plastered everywhere on billboards , bus stops, walls, ect, in compare to Japan. there is no comparison and nothing to compare
there is nothing to compare because the society issue in japan and US are different. and the fact that you try to bring "woke"-ism or anti "woke"ism without understanding the issue in japan it self is just very rose tinted glasses idealistic view of japanese society and in turn japanese artistic works as well. which also very Western-centrism on it's own.

MegamiRem said:
Anime slowly taking over the world.


soon brother, soon.

heck, oshi no ko is licensed in spain, germany, france and italy. still wondering why VIZ hasn't pick it up yet.


So i am rose tinted, and you are not? hypocrisy in that statement just points out, that you yourself believe you know what you are talking about, but if you wanna try and manipulate anything i say then thats on you.

I care not about you so rose tinted views either there or your Puny little salty irrelevant feelings

simply put you offered nothing other then whip insults and thinking you know what you talking about in regarding America and politics of woke, govern by your geographic location, i'm just gonna take that you just ignorant and have one self over inflation and of one self ego. only one who's got there feelings hurt is you, other then that, i have nothing more to say to you regarding the topic of America and woke and how it influences world in a negative way.

If you don't understand that i guess i can't help you. Good luck and enjoy ya anime/Manga.

Nov 7, 2021 3:21 PM

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joe_own said:
So i am rose tinted, and you are not? hypocrisy in that statement just points out, that you yourself believe you know what you are talking about, but if you wanna try and manipulate anything i say then thats on you.


i mean, you shoving "woke" or even "anti woke" whatever it is to japanese artistic product which was didn't even fit contextually to japanese social environment.

joe_own said:
I care not about you so rose tinted views either there or your Puny little salty irrelevant feelings


eh, you didn't give any objective value other than "woke" content is bad because it include tropes you didn't like which ironically already exist in broader sense in japanese anime/manga industry.

joe_own said:
simply put you offered nothing other then whip insults and thinking you know what you talking about in regarding America and politics of woke, govern by your geographic location, i'm just gonna take that you just ignorant and have one self over inflation and of one self ego. only one who's got there feelings hurt is you, other then that, i have nothing more to say to you regarding the topic of America and woke and how it influences world in a negative way.

If you don't understand that i guess i can't help you. Good luck and enjoy ya anime/Manga.


as i said, i don't know much about US, but thinking japan is "anti woke" is just silly when they didn't even know what woke is.
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on."
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Kuma said:
joe_own said:
So i am rose tinted, and you are not? hypocrisy in that statement just points out, that you yourself believe you know what you are talking about, but if you wanna try and manipulate anything i say then thats on you.


i mean, you shoving "woke" or even "anti woke" whatever it is to japanese artistic product which was didn't even fit contextually to japanese social environment.

joe_own said:
I care not about you so rose tinted views either there or your Puny little salty irrelevant feelings


eh, you didn't give any objective value other than "woke" content is bad because it include tropes you didn't like which ironically already exist in broader sense in japanese anime/manga industry.

joe_own said:
simply put you offered nothing other then whip insults and thinking you know what you talking about in regarding America and politics of woke, govern by your geographic location, i'm just gonna take that you just ignorant and have one self over inflation and of one self ego. only one who's got there feelings hurt is you, other then that, i have nothing more to say to you regarding the topic of America and woke and how it influences world in a negative way.

If you don't understand that i guess i can't help you. Good luck and enjoy ya anime/Manga.


as i said, i don't know much about US, but thinking japan is "anti woke" is just silly when they didn't even know what woke is.
Cool story bro lmao, i'm done with this back and forth. believe and say whatever you want.

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