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Aug 11, 2021 2:42 AM

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-Sherou- said:
Apparently his last ascension is locked behind LB6 completion, so if you wanna actually use his Howl's Moving Castle artwork, you'll need to actually get through the whole story
dafuq? I cleared story but still not unlocked
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Aug 11, 2021 2:53 AM

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You have to do the interlude like Douman.


Fuck I don't have enough Fous. Or pink powder reeeeeee
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Aug 11, 2021 2:55 AM

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It's probably similar to Douman. A quest should be under the Interludes section to unlock his 3rd and final ascension after clearing LB6.

14 tickets and 78 quartz, got the wrong Saber Deermud. Was worth a shot. Will just wait for Summer.
Aug 11, 2021 3:18 AM

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no oberon reeeeeee
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Aug 11, 2021 3:20 AM

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My pp is not hard.

Hold for Summer!
Aug 11, 2021 3:34 AM

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Genkii said:
My pp is not hard.

Hold for Summer!





Is your pp hard yet? Tho I guess to whales big dmg doesn't mean that much at this point


Edit: Holy shit Oberon hates Shakespeare this is amazing.

Also I think Oberon heard me when I said Morgan's(trait-less) dmg is sheit lol. Rip tho I don't like plugsuit comps. This boy also reaks of Hijikata memes but he doesn't work with Chen Gong so that might be annoying to deal with.
mira-pyonAug 11, 2021 3:56 AM
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Aug 11, 2021 4:42 AM

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Alright, it's half chub now but that demerit on the 3rd skill is really killing it for me.

Remove buffs from ally.
Inflict Eternal Sleep Status on ally (Cannot act, cannot sacrifice or order change, permanent, is not removed when attacked) [Unremovable].
Apply Target Focus to ally (3 turns) [Unremovable]


But maybe some crazy shenanigans can happen.
Aug 11, 2021 4:45 AM

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just chen gong them after they np an kill them off
before the buff takes effect kek
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Aug 11, 2021 4:48 AM

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Holy shit big brain. You're right, debuff itself procs after 1 turn. Shingengumemes are back on the table ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
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Aug 11, 2021 4:49 AM

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So much work just to loop a new set of Servants with a one time big burst with weird plays when I can just slap all my NP5 Servants with Kaleidoscopes lol.

Well I'm open to the idea but lets see some impressive feats first. I have no issue cheesing CQs with S.Musashi or Godjuna atm.
Aug 11, 2021 5:44 AM

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> The princess of the autumn forest fell in love.

She fell in love with a prince who was born like a corpse.

While her friends in the forest were excited about the prince's appearance,

he was alone, staring at them from a distance.

Even after the prince had risen and given her a glimpse of his heart,

the princess's mind remained unchanged.

An abyss of abandoned fairies.

Laughing at the bottom of the fairy world,

the prince never moved out of his home from the autumn forest.

After doing something good, he washed his hands carefully in the river in the forest.

After doing something bad, he fell on the fallen leaves with his dirty wings.

The prince hated everything in Britain.

He hated the fairies and his friends in the autumn forest.

But...

"I'm not a god.

I can't control the people who disappear when you leave them alone.”

Knowing what the prince really hated,

the princess kept in her heart that she would flutter for him until the end.

She believed that it was the only fire that could warm his cold limbs.

   ◆

This is the untold story.

The story of a proud princess, hidden by a great liar.



his bond ce
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Aug 11, 2021 5:49 AM

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My Oberon looks weird
Aug 11, 2021 6:45 AM

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Vitch screwed me hard; all those anni quartz to no avail. Meanwhile, I rolled on the Oberon banner for Baoban and got him lol.

Was also surprised to see the previous thread reached the limit
An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't)
Aug 11, 2021 9:59 AM

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We survived to 1 year of malpocalipse too
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Aug 11, 2021 10:20 AM

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Forget ass, if we're talking Oberon fanart this is my new wallpaper



One of those artists that only posts drawings like 3 times a year so I was extra excited.
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Aug 11, 2021 10:22 AM

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MothMan is surprisingly thicc



Btw after hesitating for a while because of summer, i decided to do one more roll and finally got him yay
Aug 11, 2021 10:28 AM

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>Btw after hesitating for a while because of summer, i decided to do one more roll and finally got him yay

Yeahhh welcomeee. You said u only got through Solomon a little earlier so I guess you're gonna be stuff in Asc 2 for a while lol.

Tho I heard Douman's asc restrictions went away after a while even for people who hadn't cleared lb5.5? There are conflicting stories tho.
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Aug 11, 2021 2:05 PM

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Hmmm, I'm in a weird spot with Oberon. While everything I see on paper and demonstration videos is very impressive and a no brainer to roll for... But I'm not interested at all? I have all Servants and CEs available to use with him to maximize the meme and I'm sure he'll be useful in future CQs but I just can't bring myself to do it.

Maybe I'm burnt out from the looping meta. I can loop well enough as is. I can maximize dmg as is, albeit not to the new ridiculous high heavens. And I can especially switch out with my current cast to do whatever.

Perhaps that's it, I'm just tired of the looping meta and want something new.
Aug 11, 2021 2:15 PM

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You're just not interested in the character most likely. Me neither tbh.
Aug 11, 2021 2:39 PM

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Yeah it's probably something as simple as that.

We've also reached a point where we have enough strong units, enough support and enough looping power as is. Right now the only reasons you'll be taking out that credit card to roll is out of love or for the thrill. (speaking as a whale)

However, now we have something very new with the introduction of Melusine and her NP+Form shifting. That's something I'm interested in and want more of. I'm hoping that we get a Summer Servant this year that's either a Pretender, Avenger, Ruler, Alter Ego or Foreigner that can NP switch on the fly.

Who knows, this is probably laying out the ground works for the Tsukihime event that'll give us form shifting Arcueid, Shiki and Ciel.
Aug 11, 2021 2:45 PM

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summer event is gonna be tsukihime crossover, you saw it here first
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Aug 11, 2021 2:50 PM

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I'mma be honest, I wasted all my tickets and quartz on him, only to realize that even if I did get him, I probably wouldn't care for him much anyways, but the hype over him convinced me to do it anyways.

Actually though, what is his appeal other than looking like Howl? I genuinely want to know.

Aug 11, 2021 3:18 PM

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His main appeal is his new class type I'm guessing. Something new and shiny will always turn heads until another servant of the same type comes along.
Aug 11, 2021 3:23 PM
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[quote=red-tomato message=64094721]Meanwhile, I rolled on the Oberon banner for Baoban and got him lol. /quote]
I rolled for NP2 Barghest and got NP4 Oberon. Why is my luck always great for rolling characters I don't care about orz
Aug 11, 2021 3:44 PM

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I rolled for NP2 Barghest and got NP4 Oberon. Why is my luck always great for rolling characters I don't care about orz

Relatable. The other day when Paisen and Old Man Li got a rate up i rolled a little for them but only got Koyan instead. I know Koyoyo is amazing gameplay wise and assassin Yu kinda sucks but hey i don't care, just wanted my vampire tiddies and my badass old man sheesh
Aug 11, 2021 3:51 PM

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A lot of people get easily caught up by the hype train and the influence of the crowd.

I was hanging out with a friend earlier and he had his Twitter Deck on his 3rd monitor and the #FGO tag was constantly blowing up with Oberon every 5 sec and that kept him on my mind and tempted me a little.



There will be plenty more Pretenders to come for sure.

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Actually though, what is his appeal other than looking like Howl? I genuinely want to know.

I assume he is aesthetically appealing and has a great story behind him. If you read LB6(1,2,3) you would really like and want him. Problem is you have to spend time to read and be invested by the plot. Oh and loop meta.

Here is my counter point to that:

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Bitch NP4 :0

>His main appeal is his new class type I'm guessing.

No, his main appeal is his personality. Or rather a mix of all the things tbh. P sure his fight is like the emotional climax of the LB, and he's the last one you gotta deal with.
Pretender class on its own isn't that groundbreaking to be trending no1 worldwide. Like Berserkers exist. >.>
I don't think Foreigner or Alterego got this much hype. Also, off the back of Koyan I can't imagine people are simply trending him *just* for meta bc ultimately she's more impressive.
But yh since you don't care much abt his personality,
and we literally just got Vitch who is all you need for buster looping,
it makes sense you don't want to roll for him.


Edit: Wow even now he's still No1 on JP twit that's mad. It's been a solid 14hrs too.
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Aug 11, 2021 4:32 PM

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Genkii said:
Here is my counter point to that:



Waifu Power >>> Plot and Meta
Aug 11, 2021 8:18 PM

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How much FP did u guys need to max Habenyan? I wanted to do CE bombs b4 the campaign finishes(plan was to roll for Habenyan+CE bomb simultaneously) but I cba to finish lb6.3 yet so I sort of need to reserve some FP space for her.
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Aug 11, 2021 8:59 PM

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900k-1mil for me.
1mil-1.5mil for Mei and Kei. Not sure if either maxed her.
Aug 11, 2021 9:03 PM

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nope only 4 copies total
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Aug 11, 2021 11:39 PM

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Some did get 4 copy in 500k fp

It is rng anyway

I got np5
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Aug 12, 2021 12:26 AM

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I didn't even get any copies during the first 500k. RNG indeed.

But I have seen the general consensus being 1mil~
Aug 12, 2021 1:37 AM

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Nasu says fcku
Wonder if they'll apply this for gacha lock retrospectively on story locked 3 stara
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Aug 12, 2021 7:13 AM

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Oh okie. I'll set aside abt 2mill then. I'm glad it doesn't need that much FP. Lots of tapping tho-
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Aug 13, 2021 1:14 AM

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FGO achieves record revenue after the Oberon banner.



Almost double the 2nd place, Uma Musume.

And these are just the AppStore numbers.
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Dedgaem defeated?

Aug 13, 2021 1:45 AM

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At this point, it's clear FGO was never dead, just sleeping.

Geez, just look at the difference between each of the top 5 and then FGO. It's on a league of its own.
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Nasu Kinoko blog translation 2021/8/12.
It's been a week since the release of the Collapse Arc of Part 2, Chapter 6.
This has turned out to be the longest main chapter we've published so far.
Once again, allow me to thank all of the development staff at DelightWorks,
the creators who designed the Servants and drew the backgrounds,
and of course, the staff of TYPE-MOON who for the past 3 months were like, "We already knew this would happen, so what do you need us to do?" and still put their heart and soul into making this happen.
It's been a grand dream, and it couldn't have come true without every single one of you.

Now, then. Since it seems like many players have completed the story, I'll spill a bunch of details even if it might be a bit early.

First, I know you're probably asking why I'm calling it the Collapse Arc.
Chapter 6 was structured into three parts: the First Arc, Second Arc, and Collapse Arc.
During the stream right before the First Arc was released, it was compared to Kara no Kyoukai:


  • First Arc: "Garan no Dou" from Kara no Kyoukai
  • Second Arc: "Paradox Spiral" from Kara no Kyoukai
  • Collapse Arc: "A Study in Murder (II)" from Kara no Kyoukai


...are what was meant by that. The supposed final boss also similarly left the stage in medias res.
We intended to focus our resources on making the Collapse Arc, but the First and Second Arcs ballooned in volume,
and we kept making more and more assets and stills for them until all three arcs grew to be impactful on their own.
Also, I figured it wouldn't hurt to turn to the guy (company president) sitting next to me, whose hands were already full with the main work, and say,

"I waNT BRidE poSES for Mash.
In TWO wEEks FRoM Now, IF yOU COuLD.
FOrGivE ME. foRgiVE mE. FoRgIVe me THE sInS OF kInoKo."

I sent that message using (physical) telepathy and in reply, he stunned me with entirely new portraits instead of just pose variations, and a huge amount of facial expressions too.

"Well, that worked...
Maybe I could ask for the three fairies and Mike, too...
I'll ask BLACK-san to do the trio, and Simoshi-kun to work on Bogard!
Oh yeah, I can ask Shimoshi-kun to squeeze in Mike, too! They designed Da Vinci, after all!"

And that's what we got.
In the plot, Mike was only to have a faceless mob fairy portrait, but I wanted him to leave more of an impression.
For Mike's design, I asked for "lines that make him feel like a mob even though he's not. He shouldn't stand out during the First Arc, but it'll be really meaningful during the Collapse."
Thank you, Shimoshi! I'm really looking forward to swimsuit Da Vinci-chan!

The musical score this time was nearly three times that of a typical main story chapter,
and KATE-kun fought until the very end to get that done.
"I'd like individualized battle themes for each Fairy Knight.
The ____ in the Collapse Arc should have an arrangement of that... speaking of which, ____ should get the complete version.
Try to think of the Fairy Knight battles as only the starting skirmishes."

"Hm, hm. The motifs of Lancelot and Gawain are easy enough to understand, but what about Tristan?"
"A girl's hysterical thoughts. A blood-drenched stage. A dance musical, a brilliant stage, the girl herself is hell, something like that. In the style of CCC's Alter Ego battles."
"Should I make ____'s theme orchestral since it's a boss battle?"
"You don't have to. It's supposed to be a girl's happy (dancing) dream, so it should be a cheerful melody with some tempo. The stage is part of the climax, so it should enrapture the audience and make them wish they were happy to have been born! Or something like that. Think like, the most exciting moment of your life. Even if it was all a dream."
"Oh, so that's why the stage spins round and round! I get it now! But can I say something? Why are you giving me such an awful job?"

By the way, speaking of the track "Land of Hope," it's actually the initial map theme that was submitted for Saber Wars 2.
When KATE-kun gave it to us, I thought it would be too perfect for the end of Chapter 6, so I said,

"I want to use this in Chapter 6, so please keep this one under wraps for now.
I think we should arrange it for Castoria's Noble Phantasm; give the players a taste of it so it'll sound familiar to them.
At the very very end, I want to use an emotional arrangement of it. Thanks."

And that's how, for the past 2 years, I've listening to "Land of Hope" and thinking about Spring Memories whenever I was moving around.
To me, that song is about seeking stars.

Okay, at this point people are going to start accusing me of rambling too much again, so I'll explain a bunch of trivia off the top of my head.

____ in the Garden of Lost Will
Regarding [the name of the imprisoned] in the Garden of Lost Will, the person that appears at the end is generally a person that you unconsciously feel is pointing out "the very hardest thing, the first thing that you yourself avoid confronting."
The Oberon that shows up at the end isn't the real one.

Vivian of Orkney
The leader of the Rain Clan recognized their sins and offered the Fairy of Paradise their love and affection.
These were Vivian's warm childhood days.
A dimly lit yet warm castle sunroom, where the rain never stops.
The girl dreamed of a fairytale-like kingdom where she had no duty to Avalon, where everyone could live in peace.

Caster of Avalon
Caster has no Spring Memories because, as the Fairy of Paradise, she had no fun memories to look back on. She wasn't allowed to have any.
But, Vivian might have experienced the same thing if she had returned to Paradise.
Still, Morgan had her memories of being lovingly raised in Orkney,
while Artoria had her memories of meeting her very first... traveling companions (friends), who had nothing to do with her duty as the Fairy of Paradise.

Oberon's Retrospection
The person narrating Oberon's origins in Verse 30 is A.A.
Oberon is the one talking during the parts about day and night, "can you understand how ~~~ feels?"
but the third-person narration afterward is A.A. after becoming the Guardian of the Holy Swords and learning everything about Britain.

The Star in the Hole
There's a scene in verse 30 about the Star in the Storm.
That was her final sprint, in the moment she vanished from the throne and became a Guardian.
"I've hit my goal if I just quit thinking and be a ____, right? If I keep trying, then they'll keep me working forever and ever, won't they?"
It's the choice she made after asking herself that question.
And the result, as you can see, was space-time jumping shenanigans.

Merlin
If this guy ever teaches you magic, it'll only be in your dreams.
I know this sounds cruel, but to Merlin, the only Artoria is the King of Knights.

About those red-colored choices
It isn't the case that either one of the answers is correct.
I don't think it's good to have a big schism where the reader keeps noticing things that the protagonist doesn't.
So, all I did was make your choices have a tangible result in the end, if earlier in the story you thought, "wait, that doesn't sound right" or "that's not really it, is it?".
I colored them red to make that easier to understand, but I picked the color red to make it a bit more ominous, too...

Oberon's Final Readvent
I also leveled Oberon up to his final form last night, and I had them stop the ascension fanfare from playing while he says his line. I think the late-night update on the 11th patched that in.
"More importantly, why does my flavor text suddenly change after bond 6? Why, I wonder? Why do you think? Make sure you read the prince's flavor text before then, okay?☆"

By the way, regarding his remarks to Nursery Rhyme:
With a smile, he offers, "After those ____ and readers are gone, why don't we find a nice, quiet world where everyone's perspective is equally important, and have a tea party together?"
To which she gently smiles and declares, "I'm so sorry, my wonderful prince. But, I love to see all of our readers radiant and happy."
As he watches her turn to leave, he would reply "yeah, go figure" with a sardonic laugh and narrowed eyes.

Some final notes on the chronology

1000 B.C.
A Returned A-Ray is born among the Fang Clan - Wryneck the Brave, inheritor of organs of the waste heat of the planet.

800 B.C.
Tonelico fights and triumphs over Waste Heat Lord Wryneck. They become fast friends.
Henceforth, Wryneck does not accompany Tonelico on her adventures due to his position as the Chief of the Fang Clan, but does everything he can to help her from behind the scenes.
He rationalizes it as, "I can never accept the mission of the Fairy of Paradise, but I'm fond of Tonelico's strength." (To Ector, his feelings are as clear as day)


400 B.C.
The fabled Arbitration, one day before the coronation at Londinium.
In attendance are Uther, Tonelico, Ector, Grimm, and the First Fairy Knight.
Wryneck can't stand Uther (for obvious reasons) and refuses to attend the coronation. Instead, he goes off to hunt Mors on the western coast.

"But... even if I send a delegate, it would be poor form if the Fang Lord didn't show up, wouldn't it..."

On the dawn of Coronation Day, Wryneck reluctantly makes up his mind to return to Londinium.
Everything is over by the time he arrives.
Politics prevent Wryneck from defending Tonelico as all of the fairies accuse her. Wryneck comes to agonize over his decision for the rest of his life into the Queen's Era.

"Maybe if I had been there, things would have been different...
...No. Nothing would have changed. Nothing at all.
I, a fairy of Britain, could never have saved Tonelico."

1000 A.D.
The Great Calamity, the Mors Campaign, begins.
Aged Wryneck takes to the battlefield, his resolve grim.
"Begone, King of the Mors. This is her nation, the land she suffered so much to build. I'll never let you take it from her."

So falls the greatest of the Fang Clan, clearing the way for the next generation.


TL credits: mewarmo990 on BL.
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>FGO achieves record revenue after the Oberon banner.

Further evidence that the power of good husbando can end world hunger. Now give us male summer Servants you cowards


>At this point, it's clear FGO was never dead, just sleeping.

Cern was just a metaphor for FGO this whole time
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I am officially old as shit because wakarimasen deshita O_O
Aug 13, 2021 4:50 AM

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im surprised they didnt make oberon genderless because
will of britian so genderless *:)*
some bs like that

since they love to make genderless servants now
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I mean then Morgan would have to be genderless too, and we can't have that.

Also we already got plenty slapped in the face by not letting Guda be Titania so I'm glad they kept him as a dude.

Tho in general genderless Servants are cool. TIL Kagekiyo is genderless. Didn't really pay attention to Heian-kyo ngl. I feel like some of the Servants we get in LB7 are gonna be genderless as well. Esp if we get another Native American Servant like that's ever gonna happen tho kek.
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i mean yea
ushi venger is waifu and shes genderless
same as holgen so they genuinely dont care enough
*:)*

also morgan is lostbelt morgan so she has a gender :smart:

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Alright, so I agreed to be in a voice chat where 2 girls and a dude explain everything Oberon to me.

Not only did I attain some new levels of appreciation for Oberon (still ain't rolling because I don't need him) but now I have a fucking headache.
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yes
should have seen how many ppl fcking 180ed on him when they were first shitting on him for shit art
and than
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Yh but apart from d'Eon, Caenis and Enkidu(who were originally genderless), all our current genderless Servants were originally just dudes. That is, we don't have a female Servant(who was female in their legend) that's genderless for original Nasuverse reasons. So Morgan is deffo out of the picture lol.

>should have seen how many ppl fcking 180ed on him when they were first shitting on him for shit art

Yh it was so weird. Like they really went from "sussy boy" to "fuck he's hot". Didn't see that coming. Men are corrupted by darkness indeed
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Oh they assaulted me elaborated that part to me pretty well too when I said 'femboy look' during Q and A.





God I want Summer event already...
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Just finished part 2 properly.




Also literally no one cares but Blanca is a hawk moth btw.
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