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The only one I can think of ..I'm not so sure because AOT is so well written there are few to no plot holes.
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How did Reiner hide inside the wall if there are titans inside.
Titans make up the wall so how did Reiner hide inside.

Rumour is that titan hardening ability made the walls, but I am sceptical about that. I think it's just stone and cement over colossal titans. If you watch the wall closely on your screen you can see that it is divided into vertical segments, so assumably each of those segments accomodate one colossal titan. The cavity that Riner and his comrades dug out was close to the thicker divided section of that particular segment, so they could presume where the titan's body was, and thus avoided it.

Nah it was confirmed that material in the walls is similar to titan crystal of annie . This is how they found out the way to seal walls

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Now its my turn to Ask can anyone tell me why Eren attacked Mikasa during that boulder scene

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SHUBHAM019 said:

Gofigure said:

Rumour is that titan hardening ability made the walls, but I am sceptical about that. I think it's just stone and cement over colossal titans. If you watch the wall closely on your screen you can see that it is divided into vertical segments, so assumably each of those segments accomodate one colossal titan. The cavity that Riner and his comrades dug out was close to the thicker divided section of that particular segment, so they could presume where the titan's body was, and thus avoided it.

Nah it was confirmed that material in the walls is similar to titan crystal of annie . This is how they found out the way to seal walls

That's correct, but it just doesn't look like titan hardened crystal at all, and neither had the characteristics. Upon impact it exactly behaves like a stone wall.

Feb 8, 2021 12:14 AM

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A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

My guess would be that they use a different script

Why would Marley and Paradis speak a different languange? The Paradis people came from Marley to create a new language takes too much time

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Feb 8, 2021 12:27 AM

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When Eren Kruger first introduced himself as the owl to Grisha , he destroyed the enemy fleet. But this did not spark any attention from Marley , this was also one of the first instance when the fleet did not return. Also how did Eren Kruger get Attack titan without marleyans noticing? If any of those two have been explained in the manga don't then please don't spoil me.

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My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

Well for one they didn’t know Who had the founder and I doubt they would have fun eating every human on Paradis just to get it smh

Feb 8, 2021 12:34 AM

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Taltibalti said:
A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

it could be that it was a foreign langue not used in either Eldia or Marley but Ymir was taught how to read it.
or Ymir was an Eldian in other nation not Marley, remember Udo said that his family came from a different nation to Liberio or even she could be Eldian from one of the countries conquered by Marley but that country has a different langue.

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Taltibalti said:
A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

Writings are different from speaking they have never had the same schools

Feb 8, 2021 12:36 AM

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Takamura-sama said:

Taltibalti said:
A plothole would be at Utgard Castle in season 2. Ymir found food labeled in a different language. We find out that the food originated from Marley, so you would think the Marleyans would speak a different language. But they still speak the same language.

Why would Marley and Paradis speak a different languange? The Paradis people came from Marley to create a new language takes too much time

I know they speak the same language. I was just wondering why their writing is in a different language.

Feb 8, 2021 12:37 AM

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SHUBHAM019 said:

Nah it was confirmed that material in the walls is similar to titan crystal of annie . This is how they found out the way to seal walls

That's correct, but it just doesn't look like titan hardened crystal at all, and neither had the characteristics. Upon impact it exactly behaves like a stone wall.

Every titan hardening is different .
Like armoured titan is having hardening across his whole body which is not as strong local hardening by female and attack titan which is not strong as hardening of war hammer Titan which is not strong as titan crystal lol . It might be that wall Titans have weakest hardening maybe

Feb 8, 2021 12:40 AM

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What I find the most interesting plot hole in AOT is that how did the Eldiands of Paradis came up with the 9 titan names. Certainly they calling Annie's titan the female titan, Zeke's titan the beast titan, Bertolt's titan as colossal titan and Reiner's titan as Armored Titan isn't a coincidence considering all of these are actually accurate names given to the shifters by Marley

Titans got their name from the start from Ymir and the first King I think he was also Fritz. Titan shifters get their memories and with it the names of their titans like when Eren spaces off and says “The Attack Titan” and Hange and Levi make fun of him, you could also say that the Tyburs informed Marley of the names from a century ago

Feb 8, 2021 12:42 AM

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When Eren Kruger first introduced himself as the owl to Grisha , he destroyed the enemy fleet. But this did not spark any attention from Marley , this was also one of the first instance when the fleet did not return. Also how did Eren Kruger get Attack titan without marleyans noticing? If any of those two have been explained in the manga don't then please don't spoil me.

They noticed it actually . In ep 2 of S4 zeke was telling that this all has happened due to Grisha Yeager or something like that so might be they would be aware about it . And about Eren Kruger I think it's not a plot hole and would be explained later on .

Feb 8, 2021 1:07 AM

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torture? humiliation? idk man,im not some crazy sadistic racist like marley.

Feb 8, 2021 1:16 AM

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This is by far the most useless post I've seen in a while about the most non-issue element you can think of.

Feb 8, 2021 1:17 AM

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All dates and ages that were presented in the story confirm that Grisha lived only 13 years. Yes, Keith said that he met Grisha 20 years ago, but he was just wrong (or he rounded up from 18 to 20). You can say that it is a small flaw in the narrative, since Keith's mistake doesn't serve any purpose, but it is not even close to a plot hole.

And about names of the titans. There is nothing strange that titan covered in armor would be called "Armored Titan" in Marley and on Paradis. Same for the titan that looks like a beast or for a titan that looks like a female. People on Paradis didn't have any names for the Jaw Titan or for the Cart Titan, so there is nothing to explain.

Also remember that you are watching everything in translation. The "Colossal titan" is not really called "colossal". It is "Chō ōgata Kyojin" - basically just "Very Big Titan", something that anyone would say just by looking at it.

Feb 8, 2021 1:24 AM

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All dates and ages that were presented in the story confirm that Grisha lived only 13 years. Yes, Keith said that he met Grisha 20 years ago, but he was just wrong (or he rounded up from 18 to 20). You can say that it is a small flaw in the narrative, since Keith's mistake doesn't serve any purpose, but it is not even close to a plot hole.

And about names of the titans. There is nothing strange that titan covered in armor would be called "Armored Titan" in Marley and on Paradis. Same for the titan that looks like a beast or for a titan that looks like a female. People on Paradis didn't have any names for the Jaw Titan or for the Cart Titan, so there is nothing to explain.

Also remember that you are watching everything in translation. The "Colossal titan" is not really called "colossal". It is "Chō ōgata Kyojin" - basically just "Very Big Titan", something that anyone would say just by looking at it.

even if they are having same name for the Titans it shouldn't be considered a plot hole . This crosses the limits of even nitpicking.

Feb 8, 2021 1:25 AM

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A plothole I found (although it is a big stretch) is that both the people inside the walls and the ones outside the walls gave the same names to:
Colossal Titan
Beast Titan
Armored Titan
Female Titan

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A plothole I found (although it is a big stretch) is that both the people inside the walls and the ones outside the walls gave the same names to:
Colossal Titan
Beast Titan
Armored Titan
Female Titan

check the reply just before your one

Feb 8, 2021 1:31 AM

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SHUBHAM019 said:

dbribe said:
A plothole I found (although it is a big stretch) is that both the people inside the walls and the ones outside the walls gave the same names to:
Colossal Titan
Beast Titan
Armored Titan
Female Titan

check the reply just before your one

Yep, saw it, lol. Funny someone else thought about it :)).

Feb 8, 2021 1:35 AM

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There are plenty of examples in our world when one language has few writing systems/alphabets. Or when a country switches from one system to another, but language itself remains the same. Kazakhstan, for example, is currently in transition from Cyrillic to a Latin script. Many other countries did this after the fall of Soviet Union.

Why wouldn't Marley do the same after the fall of Eldian Empire?

Feb 8, 2021 2:08 AM

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The only thing I can think of is that ymir's titan forms appearance didn't change even after eating marcel. Idk if they explained about it.

Every titan us diffrent and some people can use the 9 titans differently to others hence the female titan is better suited to females it works like that hopefully that clears this up

Feb 8, 2021 2:21 AM

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

wasn't the reason because

A. they're were still tons of pure titans around the wall more than what could be handled even with 4 shifters so they had to have a small strike force to go into the walls to probably attract less titans that were near the walls and so they wouldn't attract suspicion

B. Marley was at war with other nations and could only spare those 4 and not beast titan and cart (not confirmed just my rationalization)

Feb 8, 2021 2:23 AM

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My plot hole was how are the Marleyans so stupid as to not perform any blood tests on Dina to see if she was a royal or a background check I get that Owl doesn't tell them that Grisha told him about her royal lineage but surely they tortured her am I supposed to believe that she didn't break I mean she's never shown to have indications of being tortured at all soooo what?

Feb 8, 2021 2:26 AM

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My plot hole was how are the Marleyans so stupid as to not perform any blood tests on Dina to see if she was a royal or a background check I get that Owl doesn't tell them that Grisha told him about her royal lineage but surely they tortured her am I supposed to believe that she didn't break I mean she's never shown to have indications of being tortured at all soooo what?

how would blood test show someone is Royal or not . It can show someone is Eldian or not but not about royal blood

Feb 8, 2021 2:32 AM

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It would be an unnecessary waste of energy for bertolt, their plan was to use the chaos of the pure titans getting in to slip into the crowd so he had to break the gate, nothing more

is the nuke something that the colossal titan can control?. From what I read on the wiki, it said that "A Titan's transformation usually causes the destruction of the area in which they have transformed in. However, the Colossal Titan is the only known Titan capable of increasing the blast radius to a larger scale, in which it usually resembles a nuclear explosion." so it's not an ability. It's a Titan Transformation

I think, yes it's the transformation that cause the explosion and destruction. But it's also the user who control it. So, it's the user ability to control, not the titan ability to explode. And maybe, it also happen to other shifters, bcs throughout the story, their transformation is always different too.

Feb 8, 2021 2:46 AM

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SHUBHAM019 said:

KuroGFX said:
My plot hole was how are the Marleyans so stupid as to not perform any blood tests on Dina to see if she was a royal or a background check I get that Owl doesn't tell them that Grisha told him about her royal lineage but surely they tortured her am I supposed to believe that she didn't break I mean she's never shown to have indications of being tortured at all soooo what?

how would blood test show someone is Royal or not . It can show someone is Eldian or not but not about royal blood

Still besides that they tortured countless eldians Its hard to believe that not one of them yielded the information of her royalty when grisha himself confessed and I find it very hard to believe that Owl tortured every one of them himself I'm pretty sure more people than grisha knew its just to believe that one spy managed to contain that information from leaking

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I am posting here to confirm to those of you reading these post and have actually seen the show... yes there are no plot holes in all of attack on Titan, literally all of these questions and claims just get answered immediately and wouldn’t even need to be asked in the first place if you just paid attention

It would be more accurate to call this discussion thread “a clarification thread” or maybe “reminders”

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I am posting here to confirm to those of you reading these post and have actually seen the show... yes there are no plot holes in all of attack on Titan, literally all of these questions and claims just get answered immediately and wouldn’t even need to be asked in the first place if you just paid attention

It would be more accurate to call this discussion thread “a clarification thread” or maybe “reminders”

I could state a plot hole which cannot be answered but it's so insignificant that till now I have never seen any person in all the forums i have read ever mention about that . Not even nitpicking haters picked it . Offcourse it would require a good mind for it and unfortunately it is what they lack .

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copperypilot56_ said:
I am posting here to confirm to those of you reading these post and have actually seen the show... yes there are no plot holes in all of attack on Titan, literally all of these questions and claims just get answered immediately and wouldn’t even need to be asked in the first place if you just paid attention

It would be more accurate to call this discussion thread “a clarification thread” or maybe “reminders”

I could state a plot hole which cannot be answered but it's so insignificant that till now I have never seen any person in all the forums i have read ever mention about that . Not even nitpicking haters picked it . Offcourse it would require a good mind for it and unfortunately it is what they lack .

State the plot hole then.

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SHUBHAM019 said:

I could state a plot hole which cannot be answered but it's so insignificant that till now I have never seen any person in all the forums i have read ever mention about that . Not even nitpicking haters picked it . Offcourse it would require a good mind for it and unfortunately it is what they lack .

State the plot hole then.

Watch the scene just after when they blow up the titan of rod Reiss . It's the classic spider man problem they are not having anything to use odm gear on still they are flying . Watch it you will realise . I think it is ep 8 of s3

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Fiveskies said:

State the plot hole then.

Watch the scene just after when they blow up the titan of rod Reiss . It's the classic spider man problem they are not having anything to use odm gear on still they are flying . Watch it you will realise . I think it is ep 8 of s3

Remember Antman Spiderman meme of Avengers endgame

Feb 8, 2021 4:30 AM

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It's a bit weird that you're actively looking for plot holes. If anything, that seems like you're just killing off personal enjoyment

This is unfortunately what happens when a series becomes so popular and well-regarded. People start nit-picking and looking for things that they'd otherwise ignore in any other anime.

A tale as old as time.

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

That's not a plot hole, and it was literally explained by Yelena in the last episode. Marley couldn't risk putting any land forces on the island because of the huge number of mindless titans roaming around. It was better to have a small group of people make landfall, and use their titan abilities to formulate a plan to get them to the first wall. Then infiltrate, discover the location of the king, and then flush him out to obtain the founding titan.

The outer wall has a circumference big enough to cover France on a map. That alone should tell you how big the island itself is, so the distances involved would have been huge.

It wasn't covered in the anime, but with the jaw titan also being eaten, Annie had to pick up more of the slack when taking Reiner and Bertholdt to the wall, so was tired, which is why she didn't participate in the attack itself. A return journey was basically impossible.

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SHUBHAM019 said:

Fiveskies said:

State the plot hole then.

Watch the scene just after when they blow up the titan of rod Reiss . It's the classic spider man problem they are not having anything to use odm gear on still they are flying . Watch it you will realise . I think it is ep 8 of s3

In manga the rod reiss titan exploded in vertical jpward direction and scouts aimed their odm grapple hooks to big flying meat chunks to fly..go through chapter 68.

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I’m not sure if this is considered a plothole, but i don't understand why the colossal titan did not use its “explosive entrance” ability in the first season. For the record, I have not read the manga.

1- If he blew up the wall he would've awakened all the titans sleeping inside the walls . The whole reason of the mission is to prevent that from happening.
2- He would've killed Annie and Reiner by doing so.
3- I don't think this is a valid reason but with an explosion that huge , there is a high chance that the person who has the founding titan may die .

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At least in the anime, when Berthold revels his identity and transforms he isn't wearing the 3D gear. When he ends the transformation, it is suddenly there.

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At least in the anime, when Berthold revels his identity and transforms he isn't wearing the 3D gear. When he ends the transformation, it is suddenly there.

I need to watch the episode again but I am pretty sure he took Eren's gear .

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Pecado_Carnal said:
At least in the anime, when Berthold revels his identity and transforms he isn't wearing the 3D gear. When he ends the transformation, it is suddenly there.

Episode 7 - 4:14.
Bert "ate" Ymir and one random soldier. He took ODM gear from that random soldier.
Reiner took ODM gear from Eren.

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SHUBHAM019 said:
Can anyone please tell me some of the plotholes in Attack on Titan. I am interested in knowing them ( I have a few of my own ) . Manga readers please stay out of it and do not use content ahead of ep 9 of season 4 for whatsoever the reason . This is my kind request to you Manga readers .

I love how no one is talking about Armin surviving a 50 meter fall after getting burned by the colossal titan.

Edit: Oh, someone did actually mention that, well I guess it's an actual plothole.

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Edit: Oh, someone did actually mention that, well I guess it's an actual plothole.

He didn't "survive", he just didn't die instantly. He would die 100% without an injection. It is not a plot hole, it is a plot convenience.

Feb 8, 2021 6:08 AM

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Bertholdt's Colossal Titan took mere seconds to fully evaporate in episode 5. Meanwhile that's not the case in other episodes.

i believe i t's only for cinematic purpose, it doesn't really a matter. we've seen that kinda technic being used a lot in various shows/movies. it's so common i believe

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Kubs-sama said:

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What I find the most interesting plot hole in AOT is that how did the Eldiands of Paradis came up with the 9 titan names. Certainly they calling Annie's titan the female titan, Zeke's titan the beast titan, Bertolt's titan as colossal titan and Reiner's titan as Armored Titan isn't a coincidence considering all of these are actually accurate names given to the shifters by Marley

Titans got their name from the start from Ymir and the first King I think he was also Fritz. Titan shifters get their memories and with it the names of their titans like when Eren spaces off and says “The Attack Titan” and Hange and Levi make fun of him, you could also say that the Tyburs informed Marley of the names from a century ago

No no, you missing the point here buddy, People in paradis didnt have any knowledge about history of titan in general forget about their particular name for each shifter. Yet both civilization still came up with the same name.

I know marley didnt name all the titan shifter themselve, it's part of history for each shifter. But when they attacked paradis, they didnt declare their titan name so that people in paradis know their titan name, no?

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SHUBHAM019 said:

Watch the scene just after when they blow up the titan of rod Reiss . It's the classic spider man problem they are not having anything to use odm gear on still they are flying . Watch it you will realise . I think it is ep 8 of s3

In manga the rod reiss titan exploded in vertical jpward direction and scouts aimed their odm grapple hooks to big flying meat chunks to fly..go through chapter 68.

oh if that's the case then yes there are no plot Holes . I am an anime only so i didn't knew this

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HeadsUpPlease said:

SHUBHAM019 said:
Can anyone please tell me some of the plotholes in Attack on Titan. I am interested in knowing them ( I have a few of my own ) . Manga readers please stay out of it and do not use content ahead of ep 9 of season 4 for whatsoever the reason . This is my kind request to you Manga readers .

I love how no one is talking about Armin surviving a 50 meter fall after getting burned by the colossal titan.

Edit: Oh, someone did actually mention that, well I guess it's an actual plothole.

its very hard to survive from it but people sometimes even survive from exposure from nuclear radiation so this thing is not impossible , just it's a bit of stretched but its not to far fetched.

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Symofoner said:

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Titans got their name from the start from Ymir and the first King I think he was also Fritz. Titan shifters get their memories and with it the names of their titans like when Eren spaces off and says “The Attack Titan” and Hange and Levi make fun of him, you could also say that the Tyburs informed Marley of the names from a century ago

No no, you missing the point here buddy, People in paradis didnt have any knowledge about history of titan in general forget about their particular name for each shifter. Yet both civilization still came up with the same name.

I know marley didnt name all the titan shifter themselve, it's part of history for each shifter. But when they attacked paradis, they didnt declare their titan name so that people in paradis know their titan name, no?

I guess that makes sense colossal would be pretty weird to both come up with, it might be a type of Japanese to English translation thing or just a way to make viewing more comfortable for us

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Symofoner said:

No no, you missing the point here buddy, People in paradis didnt have any knowledge about history of titan in general forget about their particular name for each shifter. Yet both civilization still came up with the same name.

I know marley didnt name all the titan shifter themselve, it's part of history for each shifter. But when they attacked paradis, they didnt declare their titan name so that people in paradis know their titan name, no?

I guess that makes sense colossal would be pretty weird to both come up with, it might be a type of Japanese to English translation thing or just a way to make viewing more comfortable for us

in japanese colassal name is 'big titan' also leave this thing this shouldn't be considered a plot hole as this show has already confused it's viewers so much now imagine having a different name for a Titan .

Feb 8, 2021 7:06 AM

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DsMasterBR said:
My main issue with the story is:

Why would they drop 4 kids all by themselves in Paradis (Reiner, Marcel, Annie and Bertholdt), all of whom carried founding titans and were super important for Marley, if all they wanted was to infiltrate people in Paradis' forces?

They could just have Reiner break the wall and be retrieved. With the ensuing chaos they could have infiltrated 4 or 5 normal marleyans or even non-titan eldians working for Marley.

There are many pure titans surrounding walls. so normal man cant go they need titans. It seems you are a new watcher who skips some scenes and finshes the anime soon.

No, dont discard that question just like that, it's very plausible. Them being kids, it would have made sense to bring even if ONE single adult from the military to control their actions and make sure they were keeping up with the mission.

On the way to Paradis, the kids would be in charge of protecting said adult, Obviously.

Feb 8, 2021 7:11 AM

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