Attack on Titan
JuicyDragonCat said: _iishoxyii_ said: Eren Yeager is probably one of the greatest characters in all of anime. Isayama took a big risk with Eren’s character and it paid off. What a better way to improve upon an already flawed protagonist by pitting him against his friends. I don’t want to call Eren an antagonist either, his motives are very understandable and he is so well written. FAX and its not just Eren. Reiner, Zeke etc. AOT has a really strong number of amazingly written characters Yes the fact that every character was polished so well, I was blown away. |
JuicyDragonCat said: every character is so well written and you can understand their actions and why they do it. everyone acts on their own reasons and they all have good character development and I mean ALL. except floch ig but idk i didn't read the manga._iishoxyii_ said: Eren Yeager is probably one of the greatest characters in all of anime. Isayama took a big risk with Eren’s character and it paid off. What a better way to improve upon an already flawed protagonist by pitting him against his friends. I don’t want to call Eren an antagonist either, his motives are very understandable and he is so well written. FAX and its not just Eren. Reiner, Zeke etc. AOT has a really strong number of amazingly written characters |
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dompsterfire said: JuicyDragonCat said: every character is so well written and you can understand their actions and why they do it. everyone acts on their own reasons and they all have good character development and I mean ALL. except floch ig but idk i didn't read the manga.FAX and its not just Eren. Reiner, Zeke etc. AOT has a really strong number of amazingly written characters The thing is that some dialogues carry so much weight that somehow you can feel the depth as it's said at that exact moment |
| Anybody knows the info on the staff handling second ep like director, storyboard, etc. |
| getting le popcorn now. also, I could have sworn there was something about the anime getting a break or something. |
| best boy porco!!! |
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| I'm reading that the episode/animation was good but a lot of re-arrangement so people are getting anxious about what got cut and what will be showed in the next episodes. |
Farith10 said: We're getting Uprising type of adaptation. I felt the episode way too fast but I like how they kept all the flashback for the next ep (I hope lol) We don't know for sure what was skipped and what not so let's just wait About the animation, wow so much movement hahah I'm not used to it, but I liked it. Rotoscoping??? Only the scene of Udo screaming felt weird, but the Reiner PTSD WOW Nothing really big seemed to have been skipped but we'll have to wait for the subs. The only big thing that was skipped was the scene with Pieckes ass |
| Guys we still see Pieck's ass on the couch. Yes, her jumpscaring Galliard with it would have been funny to see but it was in no way necessary. It would have ruined the flow of the episode. |
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| I starting reading the manga already knowing what Hobo Eren looks like. Did manga readers catch that it was Hobo Eren in these chapters when reading it for the first time? I’m just wondering if anime watchers will catch it. |
Just_Away said: I starting reading the manga already knowing what Hobo Eren looks like. Did manga readers catch that it was Hobo Eren in these chapters when reading it for the first time? I’m just wondering if anime watchers will catch it. |
Neil1998 said: That's a good idea. Lets hope.I_Am_Freeballing said: Guys we still see Pieck's ass on the couch. Yes, her jumpscaring Galliard with it would have been funny to see but it was in no way necessary. It would have ruined the flow of the episode. I was afraid that they would cut that scene. It really had no impact on the story whatsoever but it was still a really character moment for Pieck and to like her a bit more. I kind of hope they retain that scene in some way or form in a future episode. |
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| Does anyone know why they added that suicide into the anime? I don't think it was in the manga. I guess it's to show the toll war takes on a soldier's mind. |
| Wait did they mention ? |
Not sure, but if they did it can easily be mention in future episode as some anime original content. So we really don't know what will actually be skip entirely because of all the scenes being rearrange. But really, I don't think its a big deal if it were to be skip though. |
| No, but we had a flash of Mikasa and Levi after Zeke said ''but it's not just the titans'' implying they have to worry about them too. They might just let |
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Omertaskaya said: Can ayone tell me How was the pacing ? 2 chapters again right ? And they cut somethings ? Some dialogue or scenes ? And are there any original scene again ? Like first episode ? they only cut things that are not important to the plot, the pacing is fine, some scenes are being rearrange. Yes they are anime original scenes. |
| Rearranging is not a bad thing as long as most of it gets animated and it makes sense. Some people don’t realize that the 104th training chapters happened AFTER the Trost arc in the manga. Wit moved it way up before the Trost arc. Rearranging can be a good thing. |
I_Am_Freeballing said: Guys we still see Pieck's ass on the couch. Yes, her jumpscaring Galliard with it would have been funny to see but it was in no way necessary. It would have ruined the flow of the episode. i just wanted to see porco yawning cutely but its fine |
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| Not even close. This one episode shits on the whole anime Uprising. |
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| lots of rotoscoping this episode btw, which is what we've been discussing prior to the show and during the first ep. well... discussing, more like arguing but. |
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| This episode was great IMO, I’m a lot more confident now than yesterday about Mappa’s ability to adapt this pretty solidly. |
tsunderek0 said: lots of rotoscoping this episode btw, which is what we've been discussing prior to the show and during the first ep. well... discussing, more like arguing but. people were expecting rotoscoping on the 3DCG titans though rotoscoping the character acting animation is unexpected |
chiearlymorning said: that character acting was epic lmaoooooo but they really got to stop using that blur filter tho It was used properly IMO. Also yea, the character acting, directing and pretty much everything was on point. Felt like a true AOT dialogue episode. |
| Since there are many people bothered by the use of filter in early episode, the director decided to share some of his technical knowledge about the use of filter in the animation. I decided to share it here too for people with similar concerns as this is just some technical infos. Translations: C: Here’s a simple explanation for the technical use of the filter So what exactly is that ‘blur’ effect? That is called a soft light filter. Friends who have studied photography would know that there is a type of lens that you can add on camera to create a slightly blurred effect. In the animation, in order to improve the image texture & depth, it is added to imitate the soft light effects in real life. This is the technical idea for your so-called ‘blurry’ effects Q: Can this soft light filter weaken the jarring effects between 3D object and 2d background? After all you guys are using cel-shading in CGI, the soft light filter can make the whole image looks well-blended together right? A: Well i think this actually has little to do with the use of CGI. The addition of soft light is not to blend the CGI with the background either. The main reason for its use is still related to the environment of this field. This one was on a sandy battlefield, it was a bright day & there’s big sun, the air is hot and there were no plants around. If the overall image is too rigid with strong contrast & colour saturation, it is less realistic and feel like something else. So, i think this is a more appropriate way to deal with it Q: Oh..I thought it was some high-blurs filter added as the after effects in adjustment layer A: The photographer just added a little soft light. From a technical point of view, it is normal for the lens to have a little soft light in a bright sunny day, I don't see a technical error in the decision to add this effect. Q: In addition, I found that some of the characters in this season have darker colors on the edges like an outline (for example, the edges of the face are a little bit darker), I wonder if this is done by photography staff too A: There are many ways to explain this color treatment... but in this case I am not in charge of the animation in ep 1, and we can only guess the possibilities using the image we saw on screen, which is a reverse way of inferring the creator’s intention from results, I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to comment on this. Hope this clarifies a bit on the filter used in ep 1, i think the use of this filter is to imitate the realistic sense in a battlefield especially that place is desert-like with sands and bombings going on, and the sun will give a soft light effect as shown, here’s a real life image of desert in a bright day  My thoughts on Ep 2: After watching episode 2, I am more certain of the idea of realism in this season, the entire episode has a strong real-life movie effects, the camera work is very interesting it almost feel like someone is holding the camera when shooting those scenes but a bit shaky for zeke & colt scene π . Also with the use of soft lights & shadows transitions especially the scene with Reiner and child warriors at the port during sunset, that’s so beautifully shot!!! The color, emotions, music, everything is so perfect in that moment, Gabi never looks that good to me lol!!! And i can almost empathize with Reiner’s emotions & POV there!!! We also see crisp image of the characters in other environments under different lightings, honestly the director of photography is doing such a great job here, so please watch more episodes before going around to file complaints on the use of filters looolll... I am also surprised by the use of rotoscope in character acting, it’s so fluid almost like watching a theatre-style acting in Udo scene though it’s weird to me at first.. perhaps i have never seen it happened in a dialogue scene and the only rotoscope animation i have seen is the infamous Chika’s dance from Kaguya sama lmaoo...so I really appreciate the efforts of the staffs put in here despite of the tight schedule and i see their determination to pursue their originality from WIT’s previous works. As for pacing, I wouldn't comment much on this since some scenes are rearranged and i will wait for next episode before i give my opinions on this but so far so good, i’am alright with the pieck crawling scene gone, i am hoping for next episode to portray the relationship between the warriors so we can empathize with them better, but it’s a pity they couldn’t include the eldian troops passing by the marleyans during their return..that’s one thing... Music, damn this episode.. The use of acoustic osts hit hard especially with the scenes at the port and the eldians reunite with their family and the use of eerie sounds when reiner talked about paradis almost make me feel like watching some old war movies of a veteran telling his traumatic past Overall, I am so so impressed by the character acting this episode, the transitions of characters expressions with use of shadows especially reiner and zeke are very well done!!! The character designs consistencies are almost close to perfect except for the scene of the warriors meeting in zeke’s room, ngl porco and reiner faces look different there...but overall the scene is meant to focus on zeke speaking i only noticed the inconsistencies when i watch it on live but watching the sub-version i literally concentrate more on zeke’s motions and the subs, so not a big deal here to me. Lastly, SASUGA PIECK-CHAN!!!!!! IT’S PIECK SUPREMACYYYY THIS EPISODE!!! Love her designs in every scene, please be my ONEEEE-CHANN!!! |
hinako49Dec 13, 2020 8:28 PM
| @hinako49 again with the translations dude. thanks it's good that the blur is definitely not just a blur. It's different every scene with the blurriest shot in the dock or pier or something because of the sunlight. They definitely know what they are doing. It's a little excessive though imo. Just a little. I agree that the acoustic music hits different lol. and again PIECK SUPREMECY! she has that caring onee san vibe like saeko in haikyuu but less chaotic |
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| So will they be able to present Reiner's backstory in one episode ? |
  Something that’s supposed to die and doesn’t… will eventually rot away , whether it’s a man or a nation |
hinako49 said: Since there are many people bothered by the use of filter in early episode, the director decided to share some of his technical knowledge about the use of filter in the animation. I decided to share it here too for people with similar concerns as this is just some technical infos. Translations: C: Here’s a simple explanation for the technical use of the filter So what exactly is that ‘blur’ effect? That is called a soft light filter. Friends who have studied photography would know that there is a type of lens that you can add on camera to create a slightly blurred effect. In the animation, in order to improve the image texture & depth, it is added to imitate the soft light effects in real life. This is the technical idea for your so-called ‘blurry’ effects Q: Can this soft light filter weaken the jarring effects between 3D object and 2d background? After all you guys are using cel-shading in CGI, the soft light filter can make the whole image looks well-blended together right? A: Well i think this actually has little to do with the use of CGI. The addition of soft light is not to blend the CGI with the background either. The main reason for its use is still related to the environment of this field. This one was on a sandy battlefield, it was a bright day & there’s big sun, the air is hot and there were no plants around. If the overall image is too rigid with strong contrast & colour saturation, it is less realistic and feel like something else. So, i think this is a more appropriate way to deal with it Q: Oh..I thought it was some high-blurs filter added as the after effects in adjustment layer A: The photographer just added a little soft light. From a technical point of view, it is normal for the lens to have a little soft light in a bright sunny day, I don't see a technical error in the decision to add this effect. Q: In addition, I found that some of the characters in this season have darker colors on the edges like an outline (for example, the edges of the face are a little bit darker), I wonder if this is done by photography staff too A: There are many ways to explain this color treatment... but in this case I am not in charge of the animation in ep 1, and we can only guess the possibilities using the image we saw on screen, which is a reverse way of inferring the creator’s intention from results, I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to comment on this. Hope this clarifies a bit on the filter used in ep 1, i think the use of this filter is to imitate the realistic sense in a battlefield especially that place is desert-like with sands and bombings going on, and the sun will give a soft light effect as shown, here’s a real life image of desert in a bright day My thoughts on Ep 2: After watching episode 2, I am more certain of the idea of realism in this season, the entire episode has a strong real-life movie effects, the camera work is very interesting it almost feel like someone is holding the camera when shooting those scenes but a bit shaky for zeke & colt scene π . Also with the use of soft lights & shadows transitions especially the scene with Reiner and child warriors at the port during sunset, that’s so beautifully shot!!! The color, emotions, music, everything is so perfect in that moment, Gabi never looks that good to me lol!!! And i can almost empathize with Reiner’s emotions & POV there!!! We also see crisp image of the characters in other environments under different lightings, honestly the director of photography is doing such a great job here, so please watch more episodes before going around to file complaints on the use of filters looolll... I am also surprised by the use of rotoscope in character acting, it’s so fluid almost like watching a theatre-style acting in Udo scene though it’s weird to me at first.. perhaps i have never seen it happened in a dialogue scene and the only rotoscope animation i have seen is the infamous Chika’s dance from Kaguya sama lmaoo...so I really appreciate the efforts of the staffs put in here despite of the tight schedule and i see their determination to pursue their originality from WIT’s previous works. As for pacing, I wouldn't comment much on this since some scenes are rearranged and i will wait for next episode before i give my opinions on this but so far so good, i’am alright with the pieck crawling scene gone, i am hoping for next episode to portray the relationship between the warriors so we can empathize with them better, but it’s a pity they couldn’t include the eldian troops passing by the marleyans during their return..that’s one thing... Music, damn this episode.. The use of acoustic osts hit hard especially with the scenes at the port and the eldians reunite with their family and the use of eerie sounds when reiner talked about paradis almost make me feel like watching some old war movies of a veteran telling his traumatic past Overall, I am so so impressed by the character acting this episode, the transitions of characters expressions with use of shadows especially reiner and zeke are very well done!!! The character designs consistencies are almost close to perfect except for the scene of the warriors meeting in zeke’s room, ngl porco and reiner faces look different there...but overall the scene is meant to focus on zeke speaking i only noticed the inconsistencies when i watch it on live but watching the sub-version i literally concentrate more on zeke’s motions and the subs, so not a big deal here to me. Lastly, SASUGA PIECK-CHAN!!!!!! IT’S PIECK SUPREMACYYYY THIS EPISODE!!! Love her designs in every scene, please be my ONEEEE-CHANN!!! wow he is so kind explaining all these details to fans, i hope people can understand their intentions of using the effects instead of just bitching about it like it's a mistake, ep 2 certainly got the best use of the blur effects in many scenes, props to the photography team!!! hinako49 said: Damn..I wasn't planning to share this...but i am so mad so i don't care now, and since the staff made a reply, might as well I shared it here as many people on this forum seem to hold the same opinion π Q: As a manga reader, watching Wit's first three seasons feels like reading the original (sometimes even surpass the original manga), but these two episodes by MAPPA are like fan-crowdfunding works. "Night Train" and "The Liar" are two very brilliantly-written chapters in Marley arc, which laid an important foundation for Reiner's character. I can't believe you guys just handle these 2 chapters so carelessly like some half-ass job, i am so worried for future episodes..... C: Your idea is actually very good. Fans should totally start a crowdfunding and request WIT studio to do it. Make sure you guys check the schedule of WIT and the original team. If you guys have enough money, maybe the production committee and Kodansha will be tempted. π PS: This is only ONE of out the daily complaints on the staff personal account, there are MANY more shitty comments after episode 2 release ...sigh.... WHAT DID THE STAFF DO TO DESERVE THIS KIND OF TREATMENTS ?????? π what the hell is going on in aot community omg, ask the staff to report these harassing assh**** |
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