| Dude. The only reason you are remotely close to being confirmed town is because of ironace's redirect. Yet you are asking me how ironace confirms someone? Really? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Unless you meant yurkin. In which case, need an explanation for her last post where she ranks Shinichi two tiers higher than ironace despite voting him earlier today. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| I've got to run. I'm not voting yurkin though. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Previously I have said so but it wasn't, even in Guilty Crows it wasn't. Nothing no take idk have had feeling when he has been town before but here nada nothing Mhmm even if you ask me many reasons that got nothing to do with Shinichi-Kun but rather with Abu. After your vote on mishu I'd rather vote you tho |
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| only scum would be worried? hmm.. |
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| if yurkin isn't the option, and she doesn't seem to want to be conftown, then Shin should be the lynched. 2 picks, no 3rd. Vote: Shinichi-Kun |
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RE said: Mishukax said: Why are you ignoring my logic on both Kiiruma and ironace?@RE why am I scum? ironace is the only player who has me in his two most okay lynches. RE wants ironace alive today, defends him in a temporary manner. RE thinks I could be scum. This doesn't sit well with me, to be frank. You asked me to explain, I did. ironace "clears" someone because if he targets a player. It's not a perfect clear, but the statistics have improved since there are fewer players in the game. If he targets scum - he has a chance of redirecting the night kill onto themselves. Kiiruma is pretty self-explanatory. He got the second to last egg on his list. He claimed this pretty early. Heck, this was something you agreed with earlier in the game. I'd pull up the post where you sided with him if I wasn't short on time. I don't know if you are scum, but I think you have a fair chance at it, especially since you wrote up a whole case against Kiiruma, even voted him yesterday as emphasis (since aa-dono was always getting lynched that day), and yet have done nothing about him today. You're sitting in the sidelines, and unlike Kiiruma, I don't think this your meta. You've accused me of "keep[ing] the doors open for virtually any lynch," but you're doing the same exact thing here with your suspicions of me and Kiiruma. Your case on me makes no sense. You're ignoring my reasons for wanting ironace alive. Refute them. Also, you've agreed with my logic on logic's night kill, and yet you want to shade me. What gives? I'd have checked every nook and cranny if I wasn't so short on time. That's partially why I'm dismissing it as wine. I don't have the time to check what logic was onto. Even so, I've given a couple reasons as to why logic would have been killed. Don't tell me you didn't see them. So if you agreed with me, why haven't you checked? How did I ever ignore your logic on these two players? I read what you had to say about Kiiruma, I read what Kiiruma had to say about himself. Don't my responses show that? What happens if ironace redirects a player as scum? How does that clear that player? Fair enough about him using it on scum, I don't think it's worth betting that he might redirect the scum kill onto scum itself, but I do think it's worth betting he can mess up scum's planned kill. Is that enough reason to keep him alive though? From my perspective you basically let ironace live another day and are entirely disposed to vote him tomorrow once he's used up his shot. Also, yes, I agreed that Kiiruma is town if he was the last to draft, I can pull up that post if you don't want to do it because it's a perfectly fine post, but I never ever made it a point to clear him with that. Like, maybe I could have asked around to gather all the egg lists and focus my game on clearing or not clearing Kiiruma this way, but I didn't, and now we will never have enough lists to be sure of anything concerning this. I think Kiiruma is likely scum because of his Eyeh interactions. Also, my vote on Kiiruma, unlike Abu's vote that same day phase, was not so much for emphasis as it was because I don't want to vote dono lol. I don't understand what you mean when you say I'm sitting in the sidelines. I cased Kiiruma, I can case him further and forget about you and iron and yurkin and Abu if you want. I am not open for virtually any lynch, but I definitely don't have as many townreads as players like Shin. I am only not voting Abu and Phraze unless mylo is reached and it becomes infinitely more important to have a definite, solid read on them. I have no case on you so it's no wonder it makes no sense. If you have a problem with me finding how it's suspicious that you're saving ironace for later while supporting a mishu lynch, then I don't know what to say. I'd rather get someone else's opinion on my suspicion rather than yours. What does the logic behind logic's night kill have anything to do with shading you? I agreed with you that logic said he would take the watcher, and that killing elsewhere may have been risky to scum, but it's possible that killing logic was even *more* risky in reality, because, well, the bomb. I don't know for sure what mafia was thinking last night, and hopefully neither do you, but I am saying that it's possible that you are scum and that you know more about why mafia targeted logic, hence why you pointed out how he said he was gonna steal the watcher role. |
AbuHumaid said: I wouldn't be surprised if Shin is scum, due to how Awa and Eyeh were treating him on D1. But those recent kills point at Ace, and him being Redirector is extra scummy points. They were treating you the same way |
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RE said: Dude. The only reason you are remotely close to being confirmed town is because of ironace's redirect. Yet you are asking me how ironace confirms someone? Really? Didn't iron target dono? Yes, I am asking how ironace redirecting a player's action confirms that player as not being scum. |
| ironace is way too inactive for me to vote him now, and I think I still want Kiiruma lynched over Shinichi. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if scum has half-given up after those first few day phases, but ironace is really taking the 'given up' further than scum ever would. If that makes sense. That said I don't know anything about ironace's and Kiiruma's playstyles. I probably have more stuff to stay about Shinichi to town/scumread him if I keep reading, while I feel like I've said it all about Kiiruma. |
Mishukax said: it's not a perfect clearRE said: Dude. The only reason you are remotely close to being confirmed town is because of ironace's redirect. Yet you are asking me how ironace confirms someone? Really? Didn't iron target dono? Yes, I am asking how ironace redirecting a player's action confirms that player as not being scum. but it can force scum to shoot in the PoE, or even themselves, if ironace targets the scum if ironace is the scum, he still has to target a player in the PoE which would make things bad for him since he wouldn't be able to push them as hard |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
yurkin said: not understanding you at all here. Why does my vote on Mishu make me scum? And that doesn't answer my question. Why did you vote Shinichi?Previously I have said so but it wasn't, even in Guilty Crows it wasn't. Nothing no take idk have had feeling when he has been town before but here nada nothing Mhmm even if you ask me many reasons that got nothing to do with Shinichi-Kun but rather with Abu. After your vote on mishu I'd rather vote you tho (If you explained already and I missed, sorry, been pretty hectic) |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: it's not a perfect clear but it can force scum to shoot in the PoE, or even themselves, if ironace targets the scum if ironace is the scum, he still has to target a player in the PoE which would make things bad for him since he wouldn't be able to push them as hard Why does he have to target a player in the PoE and why would he not be able to push them as hard? |
Mishukax said: because player in PoE = scum (hopefully)RE said: it's not a perfect clear but it can force scum to shoot in the PoE, or even themselves, if ironace targets the scum if ironace is the scum, he still has to target a player in the PoE which would make things bad for him since he wouldn't be able to push them as hard Why does he have to target a player in the PoE and why would he not be able to push them as hard? If he targets scum, he has a chance of redirecting the scum onto scum or at least onto someone we might mislynch in the future if he targets someone and the kill lands on someone like phraze, then chances are that player is town because Phraze was an unlikely target. It's not a perfect clear but it would narrow scum's push range |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Shinichi-Kun said: also this is a very bad vote in terms of reasoning :IRE said: It actually makes more sense for awa to perform the night kill :I Since she was confirmed scum, even if the night kill failed via jailkeeper, the final scum wouldn't be outted. ironace could be scum, but if he's town - we stand a better chance of winning if we leave him alive tonight and have him target another player. But if you want to go all in, then I don't think I can stop you. Fine I trust this logic vote:mushu better question is if you trust me. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: yurkin said: not understanding you at all here. Why does my vote on Mishu make me scum? And that doesn't answer my question. Why did you vote Shinichi?Previously I have said so but it wasn't, even in Guilty Crows it wasn't. Nothing no take idk have had feeling when he has been town before but here nada nothing Mhmm even if you ask me many reasons that got nothing to do with Shinichi-Kun but rather with Abu. After your vote on mishu I'd rather vote you tho (If you explained already and I missed, sorry, been pretty hectic) XD I voted Shinichi because I find Abu very suspicious on start of this day phase. If you search logic in my vote you won't find it. I'm hesitant to vote ace tho his placement in dono's reads could have been distancing "believe it or not I'm town" oh now that I think about it last time he was scum he embraced really defeatist attitude I'm not seeing here -"I'll take one for town" and similar to it phrases |
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| I think I understand now? At least I get what you say when you say town ironace is good to potentially redirect scum and get an unexpected (or not) night kill. But you said if he's scum he has to target a player in the PoE? We can pressure him into using it on a PoE player but how do we ever know who he really targeted? |
🐰 Vote Count 4.3 🐰 Shinichi-kun (3) - ironace, yurkin, Phraze Mishukax (2) - RE, Shinichi-kun ironace (1) - AbuHumaid Not Voting (2) - Kiiruma, Mishukax >>Day 4 Timer<< |
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Phraze said: if yurkin isn't the option, and she doesn't seem to want to be conftown, then Shin should be the lynched. 2 picks, no 3rd. Vote: Shinichi-Kun you just seem to be throwing your vote around |
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| Vote: Kiiruma |
| Agh, he hasn't posted in all of N3 and D4. Not sure why I'm expecting an answer. Vote Kiiruma please. I don't feel good about this Shinichi lynch. |
| Heck I'm not in position to change vote because of the mishu train |
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| Vote: ironace |
| time btw |
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| Time ! Phase change will be delayed by up to one hour. |
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| Oof. Minutes pass so quickly in such occasions. |
| I think mishu confirmed himself as scum with that vote |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I think mishu confirmed himself as scum with that vote The Kiiruma vote? |
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yurkin said: Shinichi-Kun said: I think mishu confirmed himself as scum with that vote The Kiiruma vote? No the vote he just made lmfao |
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AbuHumaid said: Chad are you scum? No, I'm sorry if anyone thought otherwise but they're wrong. Honestly if phraze wasnt confirmed town she be scum here because her votes have been shitty lol |
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Shinichi-Kun said: yurkin said: The Kiiruma vote? No the vote he just made lmfao You mean because not long ago he agreed with RE about her Redirector plan? Shinichi explain xD |
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| prolly mishu or kiiruma now oh well, gl town edit-lmao, am i not lynched? what gives? |
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| imma rediret someone between mishu or kiiruma |
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AbuHumaid said: Redirect Kiiruma or RE. Redirect Kiiruma. |
| Also... any eggs you guys want me to check, I can check it... lol. |
| Damn both agreeing on Kiiruma, if abu/mishu are the only ones to have used ability on N1 that leaves Abu as scum |
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yurkin said: Shinichi-Kun said: No the vote he just made lmfao You mean because not long ago he agreed with RE about her Redirector plan? Shinichi explain xD He voted last minute tho that's extremely sketchy |
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