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Dec 10, 2017 8:34 AM
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I am a light novel series author applicant trying to get a career in Japan, I'm trying to revitalize this criticized medium with fresh ideas Japanese writers had yet to or had rarely touched upon.

But currently I am unable to convince the publishers to judge my novels fairly due to them not acknowledging the impact of the anime markets overseas or what I can offer to them. So I will be asking for support from you to simply sign this petition. Think of this as a first step to help non-Japanese writers break into the industry and make way for fresher ideas. Further details on the page.

https://www.change.org/p/kyoto-animation-please-support-my-entry-into-the-japanese-light-novel-industry

Thank you for your support.
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Dec 10, 2017 8:39 AM
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Sorry mate, but i don't support more western influence in anime/LN/manga/Vn industry.
Dec 10, 2017 8:41 AM
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Your entry specifically? I'm also a light novel author. I'm sure there are many other Western authors of long form YA fiction split into short volumes who were inspired by the Japanese style of light novels. I think it would still technically be Western media but if you can get someone to translate it into Japanese that could help your dreams come true.
Dec 10, 2017 8:45 AM
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Interesting. Both this idea and most of the premises of our works. Although, as much as I can get behind the idea of more foreign authors penetrating the anime/manga/light novel industry in general being published is a whole other story all together. I support the idea of foreigners having a chance in the industry but they should ultimately be published by their own merit and not some arbitrary reason as because "we're foreigners".
Dec 10, 2017 8:48 AM
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Sorry mate, but i don't support more western influence in anime/LN/manga/Vn industry.


I stand by this comment as well personally.
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Dec 10, 2017 8:56 AM
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Your entry specifically? I'm also a light novel author. I'm sure there are many other Western authors of long form YA fiction split into short volumes who were inspired by the Japanese style of light novels. I think it would still technically be Western media but if you can get someone to translate it into Japanese that could help your dreams come true.


Unless he's lying he's already writing them in Japanese so no need to translate them.

To the OP, though - this is probably done in part in order to reduce the amount of time it takes. You realise that most Western publishers don't even read beyond the first page of the vast majority of submissions they receive? They'll only read beyond that if the first page drew them in enough to think the series might be worth picking up. By comparison having an entire short story be read is pretty damn good. Honestly, though, this petition is going to go nowhere. What you need to do is write a story that fits the criteria. If this then is successful then you will get a good chance at publishing some of your other series later.
And remember that these contests often receive thousands of entrants. If you're not winning, that doesn't mean your work was bad. The overwhelming majority of people get rejected.
Oh, and KyoAni are probably the worst company to try to get in contact with, being perhaps the single most insular publishing company there is. Not to mention the most picky in what they'll release.

Various other tips:
- Try to target your submissions at the label you think best fits the work in question. Even outside of specialist labels each publisher has somewhat different approach to what they will or will not publish. As you should already know if you are actually serious about this. Of course, you can get published with something that would be better suited elsewhere but you're limiting your chances when you do.
- Stop talking about the anime industry. Perhaps this is why you're focusing on KA Esuma Bunko? Write your light novels to be read as light novels by light novel readers. If you start writing stuff with the intention of getting an anime adaptation you are guaranteed to fail.
- The publishers don't really care if you can put out 13 good stories. They'd rather have 1 or 2 great ones. Particularly when you haven't been published yet. Thus the breadth of your writing is utterly irrelevant (other than giving you a wider range of labels you can make submissions to in connection with the first tip). Unless there's that breadth all within the same series in which case good luck making a decent novel out of it.
- Actually take in the reasons for your rejections. For instance, write in only a few characters to your submission. Note that very few series with large casts do so in the first volume (which is what your submission will end up as the basis for if you're successful) - they'll instead add more characters as the series progresses.
- You submitted 10 volumes to 2 publisher contests? Why not pick the volume that is most suitable for different labels and submit them to 10 different contests instead?
kuuderes_shadowDec 10, 2017 9:15 AM
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Dec 10, 2017 9:08 AM
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To all, I've already written my works in Japanese so there's no need to get them translated.

And please understand that I'm not banking on the fact of me being a foreigner, I'm stating that as a foreigner AND a series specialist, I am not receiving the proper judgment I believed to be best for both my works and the company's interests. I have already tried the contests, failed twice despite being highly praised, and wasted 2 years especially because of that.

Especially I am saying this is because the contest system does NOT work. Otherwise why else would the LN market be flooded with the same old Isekai and harem without anyone having the drive to innovate or even do something to go beyond their competitors, even for their own benefits?

What I am saying is despite deriving their vast income from series, the contests' decision to outright reject series entries or submissions with traits of being series simply does not make sense whatsoever.

Other than that, I am not 100% dead set on Kyoani, any decently sized publisher will do and I have been mailing to several other places already, only for them to similarly decline not out of actual reasons but merely due to their bureaucratic system.

I don't mind if you disagree with my points and doesn't want to support my cause. Just please don't misunderstand what I am trying to convey.
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Interesting, you have some cool ideas, I hope you succeed. I honestly don't understand why Japan would reject people that are foreign but are perfectly fluent and know the culture. New people bring new ideas after all. Japan is so...inside the box when it comes to the industry outside of Japan. They don't even realize they're sitting on a gold mine.
Dec 10, 2017 9:19 AM
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Signed, I hope it goes well for you some time hopefully not very far in the future. If your ideas are good you do deserve to be given a chance.
Dec 10, 2017 9:24 AM

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What I am saying is despite deriving their vast income from series, the contests' decision to outright reject series entries or submissions with traits of being series simply does not make sense whatsoever.


They don't. They just want the first volume to be able to stand by itself with a story of its own as well as serving as the start of the wider series.

Oh, and in case you didn't see it, I edited various bits of advice into my previous post which you might want to read and take in.

Edit: and one more tip - drop the petition. It just makes you look like a sore loser, or someone who is going to be more hassle than they're worth even if they do submit a good story.
kuuderes_shadowDec 10, 2017 9:28 AM
There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
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kuuderes_shadow said:
Shizaki_Reito said:
What I am saying is despite deriving their vast income from series, the contests' decision to outright reject series entries or submissions with traits of being series simply does not make sense whatsoever.


They don't. They just want the first volume to be able to stand by itself with a story of its own as well as serving as the start of the wider series.

Oh, and in case you didn't see it, I edited various bits of advice into my previous post which you might want to read and take in.

Edit: and one more tip - drop the petition. It just makes you look like a sore loser, or someone who is going to be more hassle than they're worth even if they do submit a good story.
That is a good point. Publishers might not want to accept someone so arrogant. Japanese people shun the self centered. They have a sort of group community that values the whole more than the parts so someone making a petition for themselves isn't going to sit well with them.
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Dude Light Novels are shit... Dead industry profit wise... Just do webcomics or something... But if it will make you happy I will sign the petition


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Ain't no way I'm giving my email so they can spam with their shi-et!!
Dec 10, 2017 9:54 AM
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Oh, and in case you didn't see it, I edited various bits of advice into my previous post which you might want to read and take in.

Edit: and one more tip - drop the petition. It just makes you look like a sore loser, or someone who is going to be more hassle than they're worth even if they do submit a good story.


Again, I don't mind if you think the petition is going to be ineffective or make me look like a sore loser. I've already tried my chances for 2 years and the contest season won't start until May next year anyway, I have time to spare looking like a loser if that means I can get my alternative route in the meantime. If it really is ineffective, I can just submit my work normally during May.

As said, I submitted all 10 works to a single contest each time to especially show my dedication. I know I have disadvantages being a series writer and someone with less Japanese fluency than the rest, which is why I needed to find a way to hammer in some advantage I have above the others somehow.

Submitting 10 works to 10 different companies won't necessarily increase my chance of winning. In all honesty even from a single contest I have sent my works too, the judges are already very inconsistent, with one preferring to see more of the setting and less characters, while another wanting to see more characters and less setting. One even will say my choice of naming a character is a minus point. So yeah, it's not like I don't know that tons of other people also failed at the contests, it's only that my firsthand experience told me this entire contest system isn't a test of skills but a roulette wheel of whether your work happens to land in the hand of the judge with a fitting taste to your writing or one filled with biases.

Apart from that I'm not dead set on gunning for a specific company, I'm already sending mails to every other publishers as well only to see the same results. One particular company even outright said they don't want foreigner writers, regardless of skills, is what made me start this petition.

I just am setting on Kyoani for now because I thought as they have some foreigner employees in their animation department, they'd be more open to listening.
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I signed the petition but I don't think it's a good idea at all to make one in the first place.

Can I take a look at one of your LN? (your best one)

I know jack shit about the processes but I really hope you succeed!

How about try differrent approach? Is there a japanese site similar to wattpad? Maybe you can try publish one of your LN online and gain fanbase. After your work gain enough fans, you can use that to convince Japanese publisher to take a look at it.
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Swagernator said:
Sorry mate, but i don't support more western influence in anime/LN/manga/Vn industry.

there is nothing wrong with it. actually many western writers/directors can teach these amtaeur LN hacks and amateur anime directors who make uninspired anime adaptations a thing or two about writing/ directing a story with compelling storytelling, well written characters and good pacing.
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Can I take a look at one of your LN? (your best one)


How about try differrent approach? Is there a japanese site similar to wattpad? Maybe you can try publish one of your LN online and gain fanbase. After your work gain enough fans, you can use that to convince Japanese publisher to take a look at it.


It's in Japanese, would you be able to read it?

As for the different approach, there are several sites similar to wattpad, some are even directly owned by the LN publishers themselves. But let's just say I'm not particularly in the position to remain jobless for long enough to build up enough fanbase to make an effect.
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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
Swagernator said:
Sorry mate, but i don't support more western influence in anime/LN/manga/Vn industry.

there is nothing wrong with it. actually many western writers/directors can teach these amtaeur LN hacks and amateur anime directors who make uninspired anime adaptations a thing or two about writing/ directing a story with compelling storytelling, well written characters and good pacing.


The publishers are stubborn as fuck and want the same type of bad and stale LNs that are a quick flip instead of something different.


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there is nothing wrong with it. actually many western writers/directors can teach these amtaeur LN hacks and amateur anime directors who make uninspired anime adaptations a thing or two about writing/ directing a story with compelling storytelling, well written characters and good pacing.

I rather be complaining about how bad it is, than to be changed by west.
Dec 10, 2017 10:20 AM
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I can see you're dedicated but aren't you acknowledging the problem while blaming them for it?
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I'm trying to revitalize this criticized medium with fresh ideas Japanese writers had yet to or had rarely touched upon.


Good luck trying to conquer the world with your new isekai series! I hope you can do it! I'll be rooting for you!
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Shizaki_Reito said:
Shicchi said:

Can I take a look at one of your LN? (your best one)


How about try differrent approach? Is there a japanese site similar to wattpad? Maybe you can try publish one of your LN online and gain fanbase. After your work gain enough fans, you can use that to convince Japanese publisher to take a look at it.


It's in Japanese, would you be able to read it?

As for the different approach, there are several sites similar to wattpad, some are even directly owned by the LN publishers themselves. But let's just say I'm not particularly in the position to remain jobless for long enough to build up enough fanbase to make an effect.

I wouldn't ask if I can't ;D

I see, but it wouldn't hurt to start now just in case any other way doesn't work
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Hoppy said:
Cyborg_Icarus29 said:

there is nothing wrong with it. actually many western writers/directors can teach these amtaeur LN hacks and amateur anime directors who make uninspired anime adaptations a thing or two about writing/ directing a story with compelling storytelling, well written characters and good pacing.


The publishers are stubborn as fuck and want the same type of bad and stale LNs that are a quick flip instead of something different.

This is one of the reasons why i don't bother with most LNs. i tried reading a couple of popular LNs but i couldn't because the writing is too basic, predictable and cliched. they really need to shake things up and allow the writers to write more unique stories.
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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
there is nothing wrong with it. actually many western writers/directors can teach these amtaeur LN hacks and amateur anime directors who make uninspired anime adaptations a thing or two about writing/ directing a story with compelling storytelling, well written characters and good pacing.

I rather be complaining about how bad it is, than to be changed by west.

influenced =/= changed. there is nothing wrong with some western influence.
You should watch/read some good western works and stop shitting on them for no reason.
Dec 10, 2017 10:29 AM

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You should watch/read some good western works and stop shitting on them for no reason.

I never was "shitting on" western works.

Anime/etc. industry is like bollywood it doesn't need to be changed.
Dec 10, 2017 10:31 AM

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Why would Japan care about some noname shitstain gaijin? And one of the biggest studios at that! Seriously, have some respect for yourself and set up realistic dreams/goals, flying in the skies is bad for your creativity and future. You don't just ask someone to support you at that caliber without even proving yourself first.
You'd be better turning that into a visual novel and shipping it onto Steam and the likes, it would have more chance to reach Japanese audience.
Dec 10, 2017 10:35 AM

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Hope you the best but why does it have to be in Japan? Why not where you live or maybe a web novel to get you more support?
Dec 10, 2017 10:39 AM

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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
You should watch/read some good western works and stop shitting on them for no reason.

I never was "shitting on" western works.

Anime/etc. industry is like bollywood it doesn't need to be changed.

I'm not talking about western works tho, i'm referring to western influence and writing style, you should stop shitting on it in every thread and be more open minded.

The anime/LN industry won't be "changed" if some western writers decided to write for anime series and LNs lol.
Dec 10, 2017 10:43 AM

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and be more open minded.

The only thing i don't want for the Industry to become.
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Swagernator said:
Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
and be more open minded.

The only thing i don't want for the Industry to become.

Why tho? you don't like watching/reading new series with fresh ideas?
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Your ideas are really cool and I hope you have success in future

My advice to you is that if you can only submit your work at one time of an year, don't waste rest of the year. There are many things you can explore doing in rest of the year just for experience or to finance yourself so that at the an of it you don't feel like your time was simply wasted. You only live once after all. There are many alternate routes you can use the time to pursue becoming LN writer too e.g. publishing one of the series online to gain fanbase and recognition. You can also try writing a normal book in Japanese or English to see if you have success there, teach English in Japanese highschool etc
Dec 10, 2017 1:01 PM

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if you can only submit your work at one time of an year


Just to say, this isn't the case, although it is for individual labels, and there definitely is a bias towards April and May deadlines.

But that's just one of oh so many little indications that the OP of that thread hasn't bothered to actually do basic research into the light novel industry or the contests, and cares so little about what the publishers want from the contest that they're prepared to try to petition them into specifically accepting his (almost certainly awful*) stories despite the submissions not actually having a proper plot structure (on account of the fact that it's a series and thus supposedly doesn't need one).
Combine this with a ridiculously self-righteous attitude and the whole approach of "writing to show that I am writing for passion rather than profit" (guess what? So are most other entrants. The publishing company, on the other hand, definitely wants stuff that will make them a profit.) or "writing to give the middle finger to this genre" (guess what? most of the other authors are writing stuff because they like it, not because they hate it - no prizes for guessing which produces the better books), is it really any wonder that he's getting rejected?

Honestly, I pity the poor person at KA Esuma Bunko** having to deal with that guy. Although I'm sure they've had worse. At some point. Probably.

*People with the attitude of "everything in this genre/industry (etc) is crap except my stuff" are almost never actually any good. Doubly so if they don't have any actual works out yet. A thousand times so in this case given that he seems to be more concerned with anime than light novels...
**which, incidentally, is a small label that is so ultra-selective that it has only published 10 series in 7 years and notoriously rejected every single submission to both its 3rd and 6th contests - something which is literally unheard of with every other publisher. But who the OP nonetheless seems to think is the label he is most likely to get to publish his works despite all indications being that his writing is a poor fit for the label. And why? Because the related anime company has a couple of foreign animators. It's just too painful.

It's a shame, though. A couple of those synopses do look like they could have been worth checking out if they were written well. No more so than your average light novel, though.

Sorry, I got bored of trying to act nice. Don't get me wrong, though - all the advice previously given was entirely genuine.
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Your ideas seem interesting but if you did not write them well it is a bit pointless. Also I don't really think an online petition will really sway a publisher.
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I had researched and yes there were other companies that did held contests at other time from April/May, but again I repeat that these contests took 6 months to complete. If I had already submitted anything into an April/May contest, I wouldn't be able to submit it to another until at the very least August-November, to which hardly any other publishers held their contests and even if they do, it would mean I would not to be able to make it to April of the following year.

I understand if all of you want to shake me off as being a failure due to being an awful writer, and I would agree if any of these statements are true:

1) The judge of the contest actually took my word I clearly wrote in the entry form that I am writing a series. Complaining that "it didn't conclude" simply isn't a valid reasoning when I already explanied this bit, especially when they will push the winner to write a series anyway.
2) The criticisms I have from the judges are actually that my story sucks. I can see an apple when someone shows one to me. Point here is again, the judges disqualified me despite praises after praises, not for the lack of quality but for not conforming to their criteria. Maybe it is my bad for writing ahead before checking, but thinking my writing must most definitely be awful is also presumptuous.
3) If the contest system works in recruiting the super geniuses it's supposed to. I know this sounds very subjective and self centered, but it still is an objective fact that light novels are still regularly bashed for lack of quality both in Japan and overseas, regardless of my own opinion.
4) If the contests' regulation of "1 volume only" leads to an actual good series. If you're going to expect 100% climax from the very first volume, is it any wonder why most light novels(again, objectively speaking) are either stuck in a perpetual status quo loop or has their quality go downhill afterward? Alternatively I know this also sounds very conceited, but would any other stories like One Piece, FMA, Harry Potter, LoTR or GoT fare any better if they're given only 150 light novel pages?
5) If the contests is able to acknowledge what I have to offer outside of a single manuscript. As said before I understand I know I am at a disadvantage, that's why I'm trying to negate that disadvantage out of sheer dedication. Apparently that message simply fell flat on the entries since none of the judges even realized I submitted more than 1 story.
6) If it wasn't for the fact that publishers used to accept non-contest entries and will STILL DO accept non-contest entries from someone who has had their works out before. It isn't rare for writers jump company on a whim without having to go through another contest ever again, sometimes blatantly because their works did not do well enough in the first company, sometimes because they have a falling out with the company itself. Point is again, it is also objective that some "professional" writers are also just as, if not more "self-important", than me but was given a chance nevertheless.
7) If the awards actually meant anything. There of course had been cases of award winners who didn't sell well and quit after a few years, and conversely there has been cases of people who never won any awards becoming best sellers. The awards doesn't give all too much significant boost your sale.
8) If the contest system is even effective in selecting loyal employees. What's to stop a contest winner from never coming back to the company ever again once they've gotten the prize money? Therefore using the contest as "be-all-end-all" method of selecting employees simply is too rigid and unreliable.
9) That the contests are actually fair to me. As said in the same contest I can have judges that have clearly conflicting opinions, judges that disparages me for not writing the genre they like, or judges that outright refused to read my work as soon as they saw a non-Japanese name on the entry sheet. Point is I can't know who these judges are and I'll never know until I actually submitted my work into the contest and waited for months until they return the results.
10) If talking is not the obviously much more efficient and effective method for both parties. Yes I understand that if the applicant only have 1 story, submitting in through the contest is the easiest way for the publisher to judge hundreds, if not thousands of entries. But when you have someone that submitted with 10 series alone, is it more efficient to force 10 judges to sit through all the reading and still be unable to evaluate them as proper series, or to simply give the guy 10 minutes to talk with an editor to give a clearer direction of what he can and intends to offer to the company, then decide whether his plans are worth reading into, or is he really an awful writer who needs to be refused?

Point is none of these were true, and as I said continuing to struggle on the contest at this point simply feels more like a gamble than an actual skill test. The reason I wrote Isekai and MMO stories too, were not because I like those genres but especially for the sake of catering to the publishers. Yet while I personally think those stories were my weakest, they still ended up the same, scoring high but refused for not wrapping everything up in a single go.

Also another point you've been missing is I am not trying to force the publisher to bend the knee or anything. I wanted a mere 10 minute talk with an editor just to be able to present my works as proper series. Again if I really am that awful in the end, just have the editor say that to my face and I'd give up right away. Is that so hard? Is that a loss to them?

Another point I've been repeating is no, I don't 100% care about having to stick to Kyoani, I'm contacting Kadokawa, Kodansha, Shuueisha, GA, Media Factory, Overlap all at the same time. I just picked Kyoani instead of having to use a vague statement of "a faceless Japanese publisher". I'm not sure what you find so sickening at a point of me choosing to name one company as being more likely to "listen" over the others. You asked me a question "why Kyoani", I answered properly. What's wrong?
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I might reply to more later but just wanted to clarify something:

Shizaki_Reito said:

Another point I've been repeating is no, I don't 100% care about having to stick to Kyoani, I'm contacting Kadokawa, Kodansha, Shuueisha, GA, Media Factory, Overlap all at the same time. I just picked Kyoani instead of having to use a vague statement of "a faceless Japanese publisher". I'm not sure what you find so sickening at a point of me choosing to name one company as being more likely to "listen" over the others. You asked me a question "why Kyoani", I answered properly. What's wrong?


You said earlier that you submitted your works to just 2 contests. As you were focusing on KyoAni I assumed that these were both 京都アニメーション大賞小説部. In which case you haven't submitted your novels to the contests of any other company. Have I misunderstood something here?
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Cyborg_Icarus29 said:
Swagernator said:

The only thing i don't want for the Industry to become.

Why tho? you don't like watching/reading new series with fresh ideas?
Why does anime need to create these works? Why does anime need to cater to these people?
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You said earlier that you submitted your works to just 2 contests. As you were focusing on KyoAni I assumed that these were both 京都アニメーション大賞小説部. In which case you haven't submitted your novels to the contests of any other company. Have I misunderstood something here?


No, I understand that you might think even less of me for "bullying" KA Esuma Bunko into this mess, but I have yet to applied to their contest. I only intended to get a chance to talk them out normally considering there's still half a year left to Kyoani Taishou anyway.

My first entry was to Overlap, I submitted to them because I was late to the April/May contest season and they're the only one to hold their contest in June. This was the first time I learned they don't want series at all and 5 of my works were disqualified from the first round despite high praises with 3 surviving through to the 2nd and 2 made it to the 3rd(I only have 8 stories then). But nevertheless I had managed to talked to them by mail afterward that the contest was unable to appropriately judge my works as a series and they somewhat understood my point, saying they will contact me again if any editors are interested. Though I realized those were just lip services because they hadn't send any mails to me ever since.

My 2nd entry was to Dengeki, this time was when I mailed asking them beforehand if they accept series or not to which they said yes. The results were indeed better with 6 surviving to the 2nd and 3rd round but ultimately the reasons they were disqualified remained the same as with Overlap as the judges still seem to be biased against series entries despite whatever other praises they gave themselves. This is also the time where one of the judges outright refused to read one of my story simply because I'm not Japanese and another simply saying they don't want mechas. I also emailed them afterward to ask for the reason but this time they just won't reply at all.

It is that I have already tried 2 companies of vastly different sizes(Overlap had 350 applicants, Dengeki had 2700) and realizing their contests are ultimately indifferent is why I don't want to have to waste more time with this system any further. I'll still admit it looks like I'm a sore loser, but don't misunderstand that I'm holding grudges on KyoAni alone.

So now KyoAni is technically only among the group of other publishers I'm trying to contact to get a chance to talk with and I am only bringing up their name for the reasons I have already explained. Again I repeat, all I am asking of them is to talk to the editor, present my work as they stood as series, and if they refused then I'll peacefully back off. Problem is I am not even getting said chance.
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WOW, this is beyond me, have you ever tried writing in Syosetu?
Also I'm gonna post this thread to Novel Updates, at least there are some people out there who might able to help you.
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/needing-support-for-a-chance-to-debut-in-the-japanese-light-novel-industry-help-this-guy-out.54299/
Dec 11, 2017 1:32 AM

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I am a light novel series author applicant trying to get a career in Japan, I'm trying to revitalize this criticized medium with fresh ideas Japanese writers had yet to or had rarely touched upon.

But currently I am unable to convince the publishers to judge my novels fairly due to them not acknowledging the impact of the anime markets overseas or what I can offer to them. So I will be asking for support from you to simply sign this petition. Think of this as a first step to help non-Japanese writers break into the industry and make way for fresher ideas. Further details on the page.

https://www.change.org/p/kyoto-animation-please-support-my-entry-into-the-japanese-light-novel-industry

Thank you for your support.


I refuse to sign that petition. You should try to get in with your own talent, not getting users to sign a petition for you. This is clearly a bad idea.
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youseiki said:
WOW, this is beyond me, have you ever tried writing in Syosetu?
Also I'm gonna post this thread to Novel Updates, at least there are some people out there who might able to help you.
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/needing-support-for-a-chance-to-debut-in-the-japanese-light-novel-industry-help-this-guy-out.54299/


Thank you for your support. It really means a lot when you are willing to go an extra mile to help.

Kagami said:


I refuse to sign that petition. You should try to get in with your own talent, not getting users to sign a petition for you. This is clearly a bad idea.


I understand if you don't want to sign but again I am saying regardless of whether I am talented or not, I am being screwed over by the system, not for my lack of abilities. It is exactly that I want a scenario where I can be judged by 100% of my abilities. I simply see myself as a triathlete: endurance, tenacity, patience and versatility are supposed to be my forte so if you're going to force me into a 100m dash race there's just no way I'm gonna win or even get the chance to properly express my abilities.
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I think its not just a talent but also influence, you know that almost all entertainment is politics
Thats why there are plenty shit works in Anime, manga and light novel industry
Sorry for unworth advice
Dec 11, 2017 1:41 AM

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I would sign the petition if I thought you had talent. I am not saying you do or do not, but I would need to read your work.
Dec 11, 2017 1:50 AM

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That's not what change.org is supposed to be used for. It's because of people like you who use it for such thing that makes it a joke. No one takes it seriously anymore.

As for you, took a little read. Don't get ahead of yourself. If you are a nobody, so don't disregard the system. You can't write a series when people are expecting a one-shot.

Besides, go to a Japanese site to get support. MAL users can't help you with anything with regards to Japan.
I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters.

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Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too.
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I think you should use this example from the author of The Faraway Paladin, the novel itself is quite different from your typical isekai harem

Afterword
Hello. My name is Kanata Yanagino.
This is my first work. Though I’m sure it must have its defects, I put all my
efforts into writing it. I sincerely hope you enjoyed it.

The original idea for The Faraway Paladin came to me at the end of April
2015, approximately one year before this book would come out in Japan. It so
happened that around that period, I had more free time than I knew what to do
with, and I was filled with a sense of emptiness. I was having trouble getting
into any books or games, and yet there was nothing else I wanted to do, either. I
seem to recall my mind just being incredibly vacant.

Amid those lethargic and weary days, there was a person who dazzled me.
He was one of my friends, a fellow tabletop roleplayer. He was an aspiring
light novelist, and a few months prior, he’d decided to try to win a Rookie of
the Year Award.

Tabletop roleplaying is a type of storytelling game played with a group of
people sitting around a table. You make characters according to a set of rules,
and use dice rolls and improv-style acting to create a tale as a group. By
nature, it has a lot in common with fiction writing, so it’s not that uncommon
to find aspiring novelists among lovers of tabletop roleplaying games. If I also
include the people who once aspired to become novelists and no longer do, it
should come to quite a high number.

But for that very reason, I also knew the fate of people who talked about
wanting to become novelists and who started writing stories. I do wonder just
how many of them were actually capable of writing enough words to fill one
whole book, with the full story structure of introduction, development, climax,
and conclusion. Of those who did, I wonder just how many of their stories
were interesting enough to be lined up alongside commercial works?
I’m no stranger to this myself; once, some considerable time ago, I got the
idea in my head to try writing a little bit of a novel, and hammered away at the
keyboard for a while. I ran out of ideas almost immediately, and I abandoned
the whole thing in only a few days. So if I may honestly confess, I thought at
the time that my friend was just the same.

“Ah,” the mean-spirited part of myself muttered, “everyone in this world
contracts chickenpox once. Looks like it’s his turn.” Either he wouldn’t be able
to finish it, or even if he did, it wouldn’t be particularly interesting. More or
less, that would be how it’d end up. I would humor him by giving it a read
through, and give his story some moderate praise with a put-on smile. Many
years of experience had poisoned me into thinking that way.

But I couldn’t have been more wrong. After deciding to try to win a Rookie
of the Year Award for light novels, he wrote and wrote an incredible amount
each day. He’d have enough text to fill an A6 paperback written out in no time
at all. Then he’d submit it, and immediately move on to the next story.
His sentences were clear. The content was a little unusual, but there was a
coherent theme, and it was interesting. Even I, a complete amateur, could
clearly see that what I was reading was special. He wasn’t just dreaming. He
also had the skill to make his dreams a reality.

My judgment had been completely mistaken, and my eyes had been as good
as blind. Curiously, I remember feeling very happy about that.
My friend progressed through the stages of the Rookie of the Year Award,
being selected again and again. When the results came in and my friend had
almost reached the final selection, I remember how happily he talked about it.
He was a blindingly bright and precious light to me in a time when I was
feeling empty and shriveled. It was powerful enough to make me think that I’d
like to work toward a dream like him.

And so I, too, decided to write a novel. The story I’d depict would be one I
thought up after getting inspiration from the many web novels listed under a
genre called “Reincarnation.” The story of a boy, raised by undead in a ruined
city. I thought it wasn’t a bad story, considering it had come out of the head of a
total amateur.

However, there was an obvious problem. After all, the only characters it
featured were monsters, gods, and the protagonist, a young boy. I knew that
light novels nowadays probably needed a charming heroine or two.
So I decided my first attempt would be practice. My goal was simply to
write 100,000 Japanese characters without abandoning the whole thing. I
decided to post it on “Shousetsuka ni Narou” (Let’s Become Novelists), a site
that hosted a number of stories I liked. It was just supposed to be an exercise, a
first step.
And now... this story is a book. I was surprised to find that the users of
“Shousetsuka ni Narou” took to The Faraway Paladin. This story, a mixture of
old fantasy with no attractive girls, leaped up the rankings at an astonishing
pace, and then I was approached about getting it published.


My aforementioned talented writer friend was making his debut at about
this time, and before I knew it, I was following right behind. I’d jumped into
the world I’d had my sights on in a way I’d never expected. You never know
what’s going to happen in life, I remember thinking.

A while after being approached about the publication of my book, I
received a phone call from the same person.
“We’re doing a shared-universe type of project,” I was told.
“Hm? Well, that sounds interesting,” I replied.
“We’d like you to write for us, if you’re willing.”
Maybe they have some unimportant spots they set aside for newbies? “All
right, I’d love to take the opportunity. Can you give me an idea of the role my
work would play in this shared universe?”
“It would be the centerpiece.”
“What?”
“It would be the centerpiece.”
“(speechless)”

...You never do know what’s going to happen in life, I remember thinking.
And so the shared-universe work Arcadia Garden was published day and
date with The Faraway Paladin. It’s an epic project with ten authors
collaborating to make a single world. Please do pick it up along with Paladin
if you have the chance.

In any case, I reached this point with the help of a great number of people.
I’ve never written an acknowledgment before, but here goes.
To all my web readers: Your warm support and encouragement was what
got me here.

To my many tabletop roleplaying buddies and their lovable characters: All
of the memories we’ve created together gave me strength and helped me
overcome my difficulties.

To my fellow creative minds, including K-sensei, who I have talked about
in this afterword: Thank you so much for always taking the time to read and
give me your impressions, and even ideas.

To my local library and all the books and videos on the shelves: Thank you
for teaching me so many things. It looks like I’ll finally be able to give back.
Kususaga-sensei, who added such gorgeous illustrations: I have no words
to express my gratitude. I have very fond memories of the tabletop RPG Sword
World 2.0, which you drew the cover for.

To my editor, the editors at Overlap, and everyone involved with this
book’s printing, advertising, sales, and everything else related to it; and to you,
the person who took this book into your hands: I thank you from the bottom of
my heart.

Kanata Yanagino, February 2016
A few further words for English readers.
I love A Wizard of Earthsea. I think that Sparrowhawk is one of the greatest
wizards in fantasy. I love the movie Conan the Barbarian as well. The moment
where Conan prays to Crom before the last battle is very memorable. I had a
lot of impressive sci-fi recommended to me by my friends, too. A Princess of
Mars, Citizen of the Galaxy, The Martian... Ah, and Civilization—I’m sure
anyone who's played those games will understand when I say that they
consumed a “little” of my time. I had “Baba Yetu” on repeat more than once.
Adventures of Tom Sawyer. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Superheroes like
Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man. Annie (the musical), the movies Singin' in
the Rain, Stand by Me, The Professional, etc. I love the Rocky series too. I've
seen them countless times. (Except V. I repeat: except V!)

Some I picked out myself; others were recommended to me by my friends.
There are countless works and characters from America and other Englishspeaking
countries that I have very fond memories of. I have received so much
from your words, and from the works the English language has produced. So
The Faraway Paladin getting an English translation is a truly happy thing for
me. I have received excitement, emotion, and memories from creators on
distant continents oceans apart. If I have been able to give even a little back,
nothing would make me happier.

Did you enjoy The Faraway Paladin? I hope from my heart that you did,
and that you enjoy the next volume even more. My great respects to J-Novel
Club for the marvellous job done on translating this work. And to my darling
readers of the English version: my heartfelt thanks to you all.

Kanata Yanagino, January 2017
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[quote=youseiki message=53329188]I think you should use this example from the author of The Faraway Paladin, the novel itself is quite different from your typical isekai harem
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Thank you for your advises, I have been overlooking Shousetsuka ni Narou so far exactly because I spent the last 2 years tackling this exact contest issue. I might have to pick that up if this petition really doesn't work out.

Btw. I've read your thread on Novel Update, I understand the negativity but again people seem to be misunderstanding that I'm dead set on forcing the industry to keel over and do everything as I say despite me possibly not having talents to back it up. Please explain to them that that wasn't the case that again, I simply felt myself as a series specialist and a foreigner to be unsuitable to the contest system and what I wanted was a mere chance to talk with the editor to present my work fairly and appropriately. If that time comes and the editor said I'm awful, I'll swallow those words and give up. This petition is merely a bridge to that opportunity.

I know it's extremely plausible to wrap up a story in 150 pages, but again both I and the industry ultimately would want to sell series anyway. I am aware that I am weak at writing a short story, so to be rejected for not writing something they don't intend to sell simply makes no sense.
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Thank you for your advises, I have been overlooking Shousetsuka ni Narou so far exactly because I spent the last 2 years tackling this exact contest issue. I might have to pick that up if this petition really doesn't work out.

Btw. I've read your thread on Novel Update, I understand the negativity but again people seem to be misunderstanding that I'm dead set on forcing the industry to keel over and do everything as I say despite me possibly not having talents to back it up. Please explain to them that that wasn't the case that again, I simply felt myself as a series specialist and a foreigner to be unsuitable to the contest system and what I wanted was a mere chance to talk with the editor to present my work fairly and appropriately. If that time comes and the editor said I'm awful, I'll swallow those words and give up. This petition is merely a bridge to that opportunity.

I know it's extremely plausible to wrap up a story in 150 pages, but again both I and the industry ultimately would want to sell series anyway. I am aware that I am weak at writing a short story, so to be rejected for not writing something they don't intend to sell simply makes no sense.

LOL, I just posted the author's words, not mine.

Just, make your account on Novel Updates, it's easy to make, so you can respond to them.
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Why don't you try posting your Light novel as a web novel on Syosetu.com and kakuyomu.jp? You have plenty of time until May. Maybe you will get more exposure there.
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Good job on your efforts, OP. The world needs more people like you willing to try a shot at writing LNs. After all, we can't depend on the Japanese forever for our entertainment, right ? It's time we non-Japanese contribute our own part for the LN industry, and to be contributors too, instead of just consumers.

I am currently trying to write my own LN where the story would include 2 Males in the main cast with both getting their own harems.

It's an Isekai story with 2 male best friends and their 2 female classmates being summoned to a different world, with one of the girls being their childhood friend since kids.

My first amateur attempt will suck real bad, and I know it, but will still challenge against all the odds anyway, because if I don't do this, nobody else in Japan will write and publish a story with 2 Male Protagonists that will each get their own harems with both getting almost equal screentime with decent POV switches between those 2 Males and their own times and adventures spent with their own harem groups.

There are some stories with 2 Males getting their own harems, like for example, "Isekai Mahou wa Okureteru", but the screentime and POV coverage/scenes for the 2nd harem group is still fewer in comparison to the 1st Male Lead that it seems as if the 2nd harem group is just a side-plot. Therefore, I will rectify that lack of a good 2nd harem group by writing such a story.

I already made a rough plan of the plot and sub-plots and have made measures to include proper foreshadowing of certain major plot developments, but am still stuck on deciding proper characterization for the villains, as I don't want to be creating one-dimensional villains that nobody would care about.

Also, to keep the genuine and authentic "LN and Anime feeling" when writing it, especially for the character dialogue, I will try writing in Japanese, as that would allow me to use lots of speech patterns unique to Japanese which won't feel interesting if translated or written in English. For now I will try finishing the draft for the first volume in my own Word file before I even show a tiny bit of it to anyone.

Expected time for me to finish the draft ? Since I'm doing this only for my own self-satisfaction, as I really need to enjoy a story where 2 males get the benefits of harems instead of just 1 male, I have not set a deadline for myself. So I might finish the draft for the first volume only in 2020, or beyond that. I guess it depends on my will and determination and the growth of my writing skills, as well as a multitude of other factors that comes in play.

I have done a rough imagination of the flow of the story, and I must say that the major challenge I'll face will be a possible lack of interesting main villains that could help make the reader feel invested in the story, as I don't know how to write such a villain, as my main focus is just on fleshing out the characters in those 2 harem groups that I just don't seem to care about writing in depth characterization for the main villains. After all, why care about writing well-thought main villains, when their destiny is to lose anyway ?

Writing so much from the POV of the villains will just take away the screentime for the 2 harem groups, so I might feel compelled to create a variety of one-dimensional villains instead or create plot devices to lower the protagonists' powers later in the story to create more tension and suspense even when fighting such one-dimensional villains. An example for such plot devices would be having the villains release some form of fast-spreading smoke bomb that they developed under a painstaking and arduous methods that seals the magic powers of the protagonists or something like that.

In stories like this, a lack of charismatic villains would kill long-term interest for the readers, unless if they're satisfied by just reading slice-of-life moments with those 2 harem groups all the time, which might get boring and repetitive in the long run. I'm speaking this based from my own experience, as I didn't quite enjoyed the manga Bleach during the Thousand Year Blood War Arc due to the one-dimensional villain, Yhwach. I read Bleach till the end just to see the remaining Bankais and couldn't care less about the Quincy villains, who're all quite lame, boring, and uninteresting compared to the Espada and Aizen.

Other series with interesting villains would be Esdeath from Akame ga Kill, and many others.
I am someone that would like to watch a Harem Anime with 2 male leads that each gets their own harem company of girls from the main cast. For example, 1st male lead gets a company of 4 girls and 2nd male lead gets 2-3 girls etc.
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I agree "shousetsu ka ni narou" is the best bet.

Hundreds of novels are adapted from that web novel site.
You don't need to reveal you are not native Japanese speaker nor your nationality.
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However true it may be what you are trying to say, petition makes you look pathetic.
I don't know what your time constraints are, but get a job and start building a fandom online. And for the next contest just write under a pen name.

@CoolitzHubertXVI What's the point of having a foreigners in the industry if you are only writing variations to the existing models.
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I hope the best for you brother. I'm also a writer, but i'm a newbie

May i know what is tittle of your LN? Is the novel already published?
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