KaiserNazrin said: They keep the best part for the last. I suppose. I'm not even going to roll the gacha, but I'd like to get a new Servant introduced to the game already. It'd be p lame if they didn't do a new gacha for a 10M campaign. I mean it's nice and all to get a free SR, but can't really say that after 2 years of FGO, it's an impressive thing. The least they could do is introduce something new for a milestone like this one. |
 Of all the non-limited, these are the only ones I care about. 1. Gorgon (50% gameplay, 50% fanservice). She has a pretty good kit and an AoE Avenger NP, even if i'm not sure if i'll ever need that, but who knows. Never thought I'd need to rely on Iri of all Servants to win a challenge. 2. Pentheselia (50% gameplay, 50% fanservice). A great Berserker with really good design and voice. Too bad I have Herc, Ibaraki and Rock 'n Roll to ever need another ST Berserker. 3. Caster Gil (100% gameplay). Really don't care for Gil, but he'd work absurdly well with Tamamo, so I'm pretty torn. Not to mention, I already have plenty of other AoE Casters like Nero, Liz and Nitoklutz. 4. Helena (100% gameplay). Same as Gil. Would work greatly with Tamamo with less focus in damage and more on spamming NPs, but yeah, don't awfully need her. 5. Saber Alter (80% gameplay, 20% fanservice). Now I have 5* Artoria, for a reason I still don't understand, but yeah. I also have 4* Nero as another AoE Saber. S. Alter hits harder, has lower cost and is generally pretty edgy and awesome to not consider. 6. Artoria Lancer Alter (50% gamepay, 50% fanservice). L. Alter is freaking awesome. I also have Karna, who became pretty good after the strengthening, and Jailter who'd pretty great herself, but L. Alter still hits harder. Also, did I mention that L. Alter is freaking awesome? ...also, I wouldn't really mind it all that much to have another Martha. EDIT: Oh wow, post-interlude Helena hits harder than Caster Gil. Which do you guys think I should pick? KaiserNazrin said: When in doubt, pick Astolfo. Of our sexuality? KingOfSherous said: Huh, I pretty much have every non-limited SR available. It might be pretty hard to choose. If only we could choose summer servants so I could get Rock n Roll. If summer servants were included, I would press that Fran icon so hard, I'd crack the screen. |
astroprogsSep 17, 2017 10:21 AM
| I finally beat the Da Vinci quest after a few tries. It was really a pain in the ass because of her Pioneer of the Stars skill spamming which made me hit her to make her drop a few NP gauge down again and again, but I finally beat her after killing all of her mobs with my party (BB, Waver, and Support Merlin) in the end, and I used Atlas Mystic Code to help my party against Da Vinci and her mobs too (Thanks to the debuff skill that cleansed Merlin's debuff from that ghost's NP before using Merlin's 2nd skill to save my party from Da Vinci's NP.) After that, I'm done beating all of 2017 challenge quests so I can relax now. Oh, and the 10M campaign about choosing which SR servant. I'm going to get Lancer Alter. |
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Pent. When Achilles comes, you can bully her by putting her in a team with him and Herk and enjoy the bloodshed. 10/10 She's also cute and her voice is magnificent. She also doubles up as a Support. astroprogs said: 3. Caster Gil (100% gameplay). Really don't care for Gil, but he'd work absurdly well with Tamamo, so I'm pretty torn. Not to mention, I already have plenty of other AoE Casters like Nero, Liz and Nitoklutz. Pretty much why I think I'm going to go with Gil. Alongside Mozart and Tamamo, that would mean an extra 44%+30%+50% Arts buff for Artoria Archer. And, yeah, LAlter is really cool, and it'd be great to be one step closer to a full Artoria collection, but I'm content with my Lancers and I'm looking more for good support units. Speaking of Supports, I'm still waiting for that Quick Caster. Edit: Lol, guess what happened immediately after I posted this.  Clearly the waifu is verifying my decision. |
mira-pyonSep 17, 2017 10:50 AM
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| Hm ... Hard to chose, really hard .. Should I NP2 Caster Gilgamesh since I grailed him to level 100 ? Get another Caster as I am lacking compared to other classes? But no 4* Caster I don't already have really interest me. Should I get Heracles instead as I am kinda lacking Berserkers? But unlike Casters, I have a 5* one. But again, the guy who gave me my account burnt Heracles on it so I could finally do his Quests .. Or should I get my first Avenger or Ruler? But 4* ones don't interest me .. Well, basically I hesitate between Gilgamesh and Heracles. |
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Herk is a ridiculously solid unit but, realistically, we'll probably be getting an HF gacha soon, so you would still have a good chance at getting him if you plan on rolling there. He will also be there in: Bersker rateups, Fuyuki rateups, Agartha rateups and Okeanos rateups. We might even get him in a Strange Fake collab rateup. Comparatively, Gil Caster's rateups would only be Babylonia and Caster and maybe in an Extra collab rateup. |
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| @mira-pyon Hearing Pent scream her lungs out is satisfying as heck, but still. Doesn't help that Apocrypha still hasn't given me a reason to care about Achilles yet. > Pretty much why I think I'm going to go with Gil. Alongside Mozart and Tamamo, that would mean an extra 44%+30%+50% Arts buff for Artoria Archer. Yeah, Caster Gil would work wonders in a team with the likes of Artoria Archer. Oh, another great option for you is actually Nightless Assassin. One of the biggest problems for crit teams are the means to deal really high damage without getting a Buster heavy hitter in the team, which messes up a Quick team's synergy. Nighless Assassin is great because of her QQABB set buffs and great NP secondary effect. Seriously, equip her with Knight's Pride, put her in a party with Jack and watch her Buster cards get a literal 300% buff. |
astroprogs said: @mira-pyon Hearing Pent scream her lungs out is satisfying as heck, but still. Doesn't help that Apocrypha still hasn't given me a reason to care about Achilles yet. > Pretty much why I think I'm going to go with Gil. Alongside Mozart and Tamamo, that would mean an extra 44%+30%+50% Arts buff for Artoria Archer. Yeah, Caster Gil would work wonders in a team with the likes of Artoria Archer. Oh, another great option for you is actually Nightless Assassin. One of the biggest problems for crit teams are the means to deal really high damage without getting a Buster heavy hitter in the team, which messes up a Quick team's synergy. Nighless Assassin is great because of her QQABB set buffs and great NP secondary effect. Seriously, equip her with Knight's Pride, put her in a party with Jack and watch her Buster cards get a literal 300% buff. Hmm, that's interesting. I think, if this were before the Sumemr Event, I may have been swayed. But I feel that Summer Mama fits what you described pretty well. Of course, Loli Empress will still have the advantage of class triangles, but Raikou should be criting hard and often enough for it to not really matter. Thanks for the recommendation tho. |
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| Guys, I need your opinions about which Rider servant's skills should I level up since I have over 200 blue/red gems and 100 yellow gems thanks to the lottery. I have SR/SSR Rider servants whose skills that are still level 1 all except Rider Kintoki (since his skills are 10/10/4): Iskander, Maid Alter, and Ishtar. Please take your time explaining about how good/bad they are in the battle before I decide to choose which Rider servant's skills to level up or save my Rider gems for Drake, Ozy, Santa Alter (Who knows if DW decides to re-run the 2015 Christmas event again or not), or a new Rider servant that I've never seen before if I get one of them from the gacha and future events. |
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| I'm getting Herc obviously. He'll be NP4 afterwards. If I get him to NP5, I'll grail him to 100. I already have Pent and Caster Gil. The servants I don't have that interests me are Astolfo and Gorgon, but Herc is more important at this point. |
mira-pyon said: Herk is a ridiculously solid unit but, realistically, we'll probably be getting an HF gacha soon, so you would still have a good chance at getting him if you plan on rolling there. He will also be there in: Bersker rateups, Fuyuki rateups, Agartha rateups and Okeanos rateups. We might even get him in a Strange Fake collab rateup. Comparatively, Gil Caster's rateups would only be Babylonia and Caster and maybe in an Extra collab rateup. Oh well .. I did Yolo rolls with a few tickets, got a new Berserker (Tamamo Cat) so Caster Gilgamesh it'll be xD Will try my luck later for Heracles then. If there is a Strange Fake collab', I would certainly try the gacha but not for him ;) |
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| I'm picking Pentheselia because her kits seems awesome. The only Berserker I have is Herc,Lancelot and Tamacat. Lancelot and Tamacat don't hit as hard as Herc and their kits suck ass so they slow me down when I farm EXP cards (my farming team is usually Herc,Lancelot,{Support Berserker}). Penth has two skils that boost everyone attack for 3 turns! That's pretty rad. Lancer Alter is tempting but it seems like having two Saber Alter considering how similar their kits are, only difference is the NP. I also remember I got little to no Lancer skills stone after investing in Melt. |
Kaiser-chanSep 17, 2017 7:26 PM
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| I realized I didn't have a Nero. May as well get her since I need a few ST Saber servants anyways. The non-nerfed 2016 Finale quest is a lot easier now that we have Merlin and Sherlock. Managed to clear it in like 5 turns with a command seal NP charge. In other news, medal farming makes me want to die. |
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mira-pyon said: astroprogs said: @mira-pyon Hearing Pent scream her lungs out is satisfying as heck, but still. Doesn't help that Apocrypha still hasn't given me a reason to care about Achilles yet. > Pretty much why I think I'm going to go with Gil. Alongside Mozart and Tamamo, that would mean an extra 44%+30%+50% Arts buff for Artoria Archer. Yeah, Caster Gil would work wonders in a team with the likes of Artoria Archer. Oh, another great option for you is actually Nightless Assassin. One of the biggest problems for crit teams are the means to deal really high damage without getting a Buster heavy hitter in the team, which messes up a Quick team's synergy. Nighless Assassin is great because of her QQABB set buffs and great NP secondary effect. Seriously, equip her with Knight's Pride, put her in a party with Jack and watch her Buster cards get a literal 300% buff. Hmm, that's interesting. I think, if this were before the Sumemr Event, I may have been swayed. But I feel that Summer Mama fits what you described pretty well. Of course, Loli Empress will still have the advantage of class triangles, but Raikou should be criting hard and often enough for it to not really matter. Thanks for the recommendation tho. Oh yeah, I forgot you had her. Yeah, never mind what I said, you don't need her. @Z-Dragon I'd say save your mats. Their skills aren't worth the investment IMO. @KingOfSherous Nero has an AoE NP, Bride is the one with ST NP. If you want a 4* ST Saber, pick Saberlot or Rama. |
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| Shit, I wasted all the little free time I had on the King Hassan fight and I neither was able to complete it nor finish the vast majority of the challenges. If they were gonna add all of these challenges, they should've made this event at least a week longer. |
| How good is Proto Cu? I got him today from FP summon, should I invest or nah? The only other Lancer I currently have is Leonidas. |
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Botato said: How good is Proto Cu? I got him today from FP summon, should I invest or nah? The only other Lancer I currently have is Leonidas. He's discount F/SN Cu, who you'll get sooner or later anyway. Save your resources. |
astroprogs said: Hmmm I see I see.Botato said: How good is Proto Cu? I got him today from FP summon, should I invest or nah? The only other Lancer I currently have is Leonidas. He's discount F/SN Cu, who you'll get sooner or later anyway. Save your resources. Thanks :* |
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Yeah, I was thinking about that too, so I'm going to keep my Rider mats from now on until I get a good Rider or another Ruler (Jeanne or Sherlock Holmes) servant in the future. |
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 New meme tier. Apparently, Jeanne is as good as Jeanne Alter. Well, unless they change her skills I find that hard to believe. I am guessing this ranking is based on how useful they fare in Nerofest challenge. |
Kaiser-chanSep 19, 2017 9:09 PM
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KaiserNazrin said: Quick Servants getting even more shafted by this dude, hell even Jack is dropping. Also RIP Artoria.New meme tier. Apparently, Jeanne is as good as Jeanne Alter. Well, unless they change her skills I find that hard to believe. I am guessing this ranking is based on how useful they fare in Nerofest challenge. |
-MahesvaraSep 19, 2017 9:56 PM
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| Meme list gets memeier by the day. Sche higher than anyone, even Artoria, is ridiculous. |
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| TBH, beside her powerful AOE NP. Artoria is pretty useless. DW need to give her Avalon. |
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| Can confirm. Heck, even Alter is better. But eh, I don't realy care that m- *remembers he has her now* I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY ABANDONED ARTY LIKE THAT! SHAME ON YOU, DW! *realizes he normally wouldn't bother using her anyway* ...is what I'd say if I were some kind of a fanboy or something. |
| Just use Caesar imo. Or Gilles. |
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| The list link doesn't open for me, but if it's the one I've seen a few days ago, I think it had King Hassan on the same tier as Okita and Sanzo and had MHXA with Drake and Amakusa with Orion. Yeah, sounds legit. Nothing wrong here whatsoever. To be fair though, I do believe that Eresh will be an absolute trash-tier that I'll use everything to roll for regardless. It really seems like a pattern with DW. They usually reserve the truly awesome kits for the lesser known Servants and give mediocre to bad kits to the fan favourites, so you have an incentive to roll for both instead of jusy the famous ones. Botato said: Just use Caesar imo. Or Gilles. Two years into the NA server and the mere thought of using any 3* that isn't Medea and maybe Euryale, if Prisms Illya event didn't run, will seem ridiculous to you. And, here's a gameplay spoiler for the meta in the future of NA server: using a 3* is a waste 99.9% of the times in this game, unless you're challenging yourself or just want to try this sick strategy with bronzes and silvers |
astroprogsSep 20, 2017 12:35 AM
Time to empty your wallet. Because its Merlin again. |
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>nearly 500 quartz rolled >no merlin >not even another ssr meme game |
| No Merlin for me either. At least I got 4 SR out of it. Now I need to save my quartz again. |
Kaiser-chanSep 20, 2017 3:11 AM
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| Gacha skipped Np1 merlin is enough Got np5 OG saber, np5 S.ALTER, np5 Laturia alter and no need of Laturia vanilla over NP1 Where do you trade for free Sr? |
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| No luck for me this time, or maybe it's another way of telling me "Chose Caster Gilgamesh !" : Didn't get Merlin neither :( |
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| @astroprogs I actually don't know what I'm talking about, I am just meme-ing o.o I burned Gilles the two times I got him, by mistake mind you, but I heard he's crap anyway so meh. Caesar met the same Fate but who cares about him either :blobshrug: Anyway from the 3 stars I currently have I will definitely make use of Medea. Her NP potential should be fun to mess around with. I will also likely keep investing in Medusa and Cu (Caster) because loyalty to starter pokemon I mean servants. Definitely going to invest in Cu (Lancer) though regardless of meta, and Kojiro I already decided I will grail him to 100 just because :D Inb4 people get triggered about Kojiro :joy: |
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| So... another rerun gacha again? Welp. |
 The rush last night was real. I managed to reach my target, which I'm really happy about. Time for my fingers to get abs Also that Merlin bait is baity. NP 2 isn't worth it anyway, so meh. I'll roll the tickets and then satiate the rest of my rolling urges by going for NP 4 Angry Manjuu. And the more bait there is, the greater the actual thing. I feel like EoR 3 is gonna have some next-level Servants. The Artorias surrounding him is an hilarious image. |
mira-pyonSep 20, 2017 8:37 AM
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mira-pyon said: I feel like EoR 3 is gonna have some next-level Servants. A lot of the keywords suggest this guy as the villain in EoR3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taira_no_Masakado His English wiki is a bit sparse, but he's basically a dude who led a rebellion, became an immortal demon post-death due to his strong desire to fight on the battlefield once more, had iron skin except a single spot in his temple, had the ability to split into 7 body vessels, and once he was shot down by Hidesato (you know him as Rice Man in FGO) and got decapitated, people had to enshrine him as a guardian deity cause if they didn't pay him proper respects every once in a while, he'd start causing natural disasters and what not. Obviously most fitting for the Avenger class since he's an Onryo (literally meaning vengeful spirit). Oh, and he's considered the very first Samurai. Well ofc keywords always might end up meaning random stuff, but he does seem likely as the villain this time around |
AirConditionerSep 20, 2017 9:46 AM
astroprogs said: Can confirm. Heck, even Alter is better. But eh, I don't realy care that m- *remembers he has her now* I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY ABANDONED ARTY LIKE THAT! SHAME ON YOU, DW! *realizes he normally wouldn't bother using her anyway* ...is what I'd say if I were some kind of a fanboy or something. Doing the math, Alter's NP is actually only 8.8% stronger if both servants were at equal stats. Not that big of a deal. |
30 quartz and 5 tickets WELP 3 more tickets Astolfo A few more tickets NP3 Waver Last tickets NP3 Saber Alter |
ShinsoPriestSep 20, 2017 1:57 PM
| I got two Lancer Alters from 2 10-rolls, and Saber Alter from a yolo roll, but I still don't get Merlin yet after doing yolo-rolling all. I was hoping that I should get Merlin from a yolo roll, but nope, RNG never gave me Merlin today. I should have to do 10-rolls all with 300 quartz instead of yolo-rolling. I guess I'll wait for October 1 to roll for Merlin again with 10 tickets from the Event Login Bonus and 30 quartzs from the FGO twitter too. EDIT: I was thinking about buying a 167 quartz pack or waiting for October 1 to roll for Merlin again, but I was like "Eh, screw it. I'll try to yolo all for Merlin again after buying a 167 pack today." Then, I finally got Merlin on the 4th yolo roll!:  |
Z-DragonSep 20, 2017 6:02 PM
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| Back to QP farming yippie |
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| Fine, DW, I'll fall for your bait and try rolling for Merlin. Hopefully I won't get another Saberface. I mean, yeah, I have Jeanne, J. Alter, Nero, Nero Bride, Nero Caster and OG Saber, but it's not like Saberfaces like coming to me or somth-  Welp, at least that's one off my free 4*s list. I really wanted a Buster AoE Saber. Nero is great, especially at level 90 and with Tamamo and Bride at her side, but sometimes some strategies require Merlin and Nero can't utilize all of his potential. LMAO That mental image cracked me up. ShinsoPriest said: Doing the math, Alter's NP is actually only 8.8% stronger if both servants were at equal stats. Not that big of a deal. Well, damage adds up over time. Even the small difference in ATK would make a difference with companions' buff multipliers. Also, keep in mind that Alter never got her NP interlude, unlike Artoria. Guess who is very likely to get one alongside future HF movies. |
astroprogsSep 21, 2017 6:46 AM
astroprogs said: That's wishful thinking that Alter will get an NP Interlude. 8.8% wouldn't add up unless you somehow could spam her NP every other turn which won't happen. And the NP difference wouldn't matter if you don't grail her since Arturia's charisma boosts her damage more.ShinsoPriest said: Doing the math, Alter's NP is actually only 8.8% stronger if both servants were at equal stats. Not that big of a deal. Well, damage adds up over time. Even the small difference in ATK would make a difference with companions' buff multipliers. Also, keep in mind that Alter never got her NP interlude, unlike Artoria. Guess who is very likely to get one alongside future HF movies. |
| Getting Alter made me consider actually getting another one to get her to NP2. I did a few calculations in comparison with my lvl90 NP1 Nero to figure out which NP2 would be better overall without having to waste too much resources. Hmmm, I'm not feeling the difference all that much. I'd rather have more options in Caster Helena, Caster Gil or listen to Pent non-stop. ShinsoPriest said: astroprogs said: That's wishful thinking that Alter will get an NP Interlude. 8.8% wouldn't add up unless you somehow could spam her NP every other turn which won't happen. And the NP difference wouldn't matter if you don't grail her since Arturia's charisma boosts her damage more.Well, damage adds up over time. Even the small difference in ATK would make a difference with companions' buff multipliers. Also, keep in mind that Alter never got her NP interlude, unlike Artoria. Guess who is very likely to get one alongside future HF movies. I don't really think it's wishful thinking. It's bound to happen sooner or later. Also, aside from having higher damage, grailed yes, she costs less, which you can use for a CE that boosts her damage even more. Overall, there are more advantages to running Alter instead. |
astroprogsSep 21, 2017 8:55 AM
| Which isn't much when she's still one of the lower tier 4* servants. Doing slighty more damage than the worst 5* when grailed is nothing. She's honestly overrated. |
ShinsoPriest said: Which isn't much when she's still one of the lower tier 4* servants. Doing slighty more damage than the worst 5* when grailed is nothing. She's honestly overrated. She's a great 4* AoE Saber damage dealer. The only ones in her niche are Nero, Gawain, lolSiegfried and lolLily and she outdamages all of them. If you want to deal high Saber AoE damage and the 5* cost is too much, she's your best bet. I don't know what more roles do you need her to fill without making her broken. |
| You forgot Suzuka Gozen and Summer Fran if you have her who are the better 4* Sabers with AoE NP. One deals more crit damage and the other has insane spam potential. |
ShinsoPriest said: You forgot Suzuka Gozen and Summer Fran if you have her who are the better 4* Sabers with AoE NP. One deals more crit damage and the other has insane spam potential. Suzuka has decent to good crit potential, that pales in comparison to other crit Sabers like Rama and Lancelot, and a pretty crap NP (60% lower than Alter). Alter is still better IMO. Summer Fran has an ST NP. |
astroprogs said: ShinsoPriest said: You forgot Suzuka Gozen and Summer Fran if you have her who are the better 4* Sabers with AoE NP. One deals more crit damage and the other has insane spam potential. Suzuka has decent to good crit potential, that pales in comparison to other crit Sabers like Rama and Lancelot, and a pretty crap NP (60% lower than Alter). Alter is still better IMO. Summer Fran has an ST NP. Suzuka gets a 40% buff to crit damage after using NP which blends well with Merlin buster crit meme team. She gets a 60% buff to total attack with her skills and can pierce through evasion. She also can regain NP, and can stun males. Alter's 50% more damage from her NP is only an 8.8% difference in total damage. Suzuka is the better 4* Saber. Alter's charisma is useless, instinct is laughable, and every damage dealing servant has a mana burst skill of some kind. |
ShinsoPriest said: astroprogs said: Suzuka has decent to good crit potential, that pales in comparison to other crit Sabers like Rama and Lancelot, and a pretty crap NP (60% lower than Alter). Alter is still better IMO. Summer Fran has an ST NP. Suzuka gets a 40% buff to crit damage after using NP which blends well with Merlin buster crit meme team. She gets a 60% buff to total attack with her skills and can pierce through evasion. She also can regain NP, and can stun males. Alter's 50% more damage from her NP is only an 8.8% difference in total damage. Suzuka is the better 4* Saber. Alter's charisma is useless, instinct is laughable, and every damage dealing servant has a mana burst skill of some kind. Alter having crappy skills is unquestionable, but her damage makes up for it IMO. Suzuka's low damage that gets on par with Alter in total damage with support is a problem. Her skills are good overall, but they still don't make up for her damage. The one thing I can give her is her speed to gen NP compared to Alter who only has her return on NP, but otherwise, I don't think she's better no. If your goal was to capitalize on Suzuka's crits by using 3 2030s or something, because Suzuka isn't exactly the best in getting her own stars, then you could use the same cost to get an NP gen or NP damage on Alter to get better results from her as well. The Merlin buster crit team is only 'meme-status' worthy when your heavy hitter is like J. Alter or Lancer Raikou where they can dish insane damage with and without Merlin's Buster buff. Suzuka, without support, only has her NP gen skill and charm, if it succeeds, as opposed to Alter's superior damage. |
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