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Sep 10, 2017 1:04 PM
#351
yurkin said: @re1031 #261 "*HUGE FUCKING GASP* yurkin floofs albertino dias abuhumaid Did i not do the same thing with amai and albertinodias in little witch academia? I was townreading dias, amai was townreading dias, everyone was, but i decide to claim that amai's read on dias was a pocketing attempt." Honestly the example given in the 2nd sentence was not significant enough for me to remember. Do not play these game with me Re is not working. For the reference to be fair and square you need to mention what is similar to what you do now - you compare someone else to the approach you had in some of yours past scum games, same you did with amai read on grrr. And what are you doing now - exaggerating "huge fucking gasp"+ comparing someones play with some your past scum game. I missed this. Okay, how about this. Forget that I did it in LWA as mafia. Do you think Ruu is justified in believing someone who is townreading the same person she is is pocketing that person? In general, I find that attempts to pocket are rarely the reason people get scumread for, not by coincidence, because they are hardly telling. So not only do I think Ruu's read on aa-dono is weak, I'm not liking the fact she's guilty of the same thing, as well as two other people. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 1:06 PM
#352
lastwhisper31 said: ur starting to make this an attack on playstyle. since I disagree I'll just leave it at that. but this kind of 'ur not good so u should just go' mentality is very antitown, and antigame. not much to sayPhraze said: ok u think that, but good think u posted an unrealistic day 1 end, the possibility of all 4 mafia being on day 1s train is so slim. just cuz someone acts scummy doesn't make them scum, nor is it their fault. lol please reread this, and how bout don't do scummy things that mafia can abuse, and town sees those scum tells also. Again I didn't say it was the sole fault of anyone, but if ur gunna go around doing things that come off scummy for no possible purpose then yes it's ur fault for clouding our view of you.lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: Mafia is indeed a game that centers around teamwork, but there is a personality that each person owns and some may be more self centered, while others may just follow a long, and others who actively try to control the flow of the game. And I taking a page from Logic's book when I say the blame for a mislynch does not fall soley on the town or vice versa. But it's also unfair to say ur not at fault for the reasons people scum lean you. Ruu's town game is not here if I look soley at meta, town Ruu is more hyper active, more spontaneous, and more out there, and excited when she thinks she has found mafia. lastwhisper31 said: as I always say, this is about teamwork. passing the blame or faulting another townie is the reason u lose like someone ikPhraze said: I mean if u get scum read in the end, its your and only your fault. But if your gunna talk about clearing someone with meta, then at least be correct. It ain't even about going against the grain, unless u played some game with Ruu that is the opposite of what I've seen everygame from here. I've played enough with her to say right now, this is farthest from her town style that I've seen in a while.lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? and yes I played with Ruu alot. I won't say anything if I had 0 exp with her to get some kind of impression. elaborate why Ruu's towngame isn't here pls Edit: accidently posted this early, so I had to fix it. and ok. I beg to differ. I've seen hyper Ruu as scum before |
Sep 10, 2017 1:07 PM
#353
RE1031 said: it also doesn't make ur case strong when ur guilty of doing the same thing. yurkin said: @re1031 #261 "*HUGE FUCKING GASP* yurkin floofs albertino dias abuhumaid Did i not do the same thing with amai and albertinodias in little witch academia? I was townreading dias, amai was townreading dias, everyone was, but i decide to claim that amai's read on dias was a pocketing attempt." Honestly the example given in the 2nd sentence was not significant enough for me to remember. Do not play these game with me Re is not working. For the reference to be fair and square you need to mention what is similar to what you do now - you compare someone else to the approach you had in some of yours past scum games, same you did with amai read on grrr. And what are you doing now - exaggerating "huge fucking gasp"+ comparing someones play with some your past scum game. I missed this. Okay, how about this. Forget that I did it in LWA as mafia. Do you think Ruu is justified in believing someone who is townreading the same person she is is pocketing that person? In general, I find that attempts to pocket are rarely the reason people get scumread for, not by coincidence, because they are hardly telling. So not only do I think Ruu's read on aa-dono is weak, I'm not liking the fact she's guilty of the same thing, as well as two other people. P.S: I'm referring to Ruu, not you Re |
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Sep 10, 2017 1:10 PM
#354
AbuHumaid said: RE1031 said: Why did it annoy you? Truth hurts? x)AbuHumaid said: @RE1031 can you come here and give your thoughts? I don't like how you posted once and dipped out, that's not your town self at all, not saying you're scum though. This post really annoyed me, but you're not wrong, so I can't blame you for saying this at all... But what are you trying to accomplish? If this isn't my town self, then why are you not saying I'm scum? What I'm trying to accomplish is to get you more active, I remember you in the last game where we were scum buddies said that going offline as scum is your strategy but anyway, now that you made some posts I'll observe them and see what I can get out of them Okay fair enough. That's what I was hoping. Your statement is perfectly valid, and yah, that hurts >w> |
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Sep 10, 2017 1:14 PM
#355
@RE1031 [#348] I haven't confronted you because my tell on Ruu was a lot stronger, and I could attribute the aggressiveness to an unfamiliar playstyle. And I am, or at least I'm trying to understand why they are townreading you, because regardless if you are town or not, I don't think you did anything worth being townread over. u say ur trying to understand but hmm I don't see that. u just say 'there must be scum here' and didn't question any of the others besides Ruu, esp about their perspectives or anything to do with understanding them.those posts u quoted are a questioning sequence and I'm sure they were resolved along the lines. if u say they're aggressive then yes, they are. as for whether aggression is bad, that's to opinion. I got what I wanted from those questions. is there anything suspicious of me simply for being 'aggressive'? [edit. it also feels like ur trying to use me as a shield for u to scumread others. how droll] |
PhrazeSep 10, 2017 1:21 PM
Sep 10, 2017 1:16 PM
#356
lastwhisper31 said: lol ok so ur the inexperienced one. lay offPhraze said: The only time I've seen Ruu push as scum is when I was her scum buddy, and she bussed me to the ends of the Earth.lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: Again I never said you were scummy, and I'm not saying Ruu is 100% confirmed scum either. But if we gunna lean her based on meta game then we have widely different opinions of town Ruu.lastwhisper31 said: hmmm and ur trying to make me out as scummy for NAI reasons. notedPhraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
Sep 10, 2017 1:21 PM
#357
Phraze said: fine let's drop this, but if Ruu flips scum, I'm coming for your booty. Yes this is pretty flip association. Fite melastwhisper31 said: lol ok so ur the inexperienced one. lay offPhraze said: lastwhisper31 said: hmmm not rly. I've seen scum!Ruu as a pushy player. town!Ruu was more careful with her words, since it could be easily used against her. maybe she acts differently around u <3Phraze said: Again I never said you were scummy, and I'm not saying Ruu is 100% confirmed scum either. But if we gunna lean her based on meta game then we have widely different opinions of town Ruu.lastwhisper31 said: hmmm and ur trying to make me out as scummy for NAI reasons. notedPhraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
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Sep 10, 2017 1:22 PM
#358
Phraze said: @RE1031 [#348] I haven't confronted you because my tell on Ruu was a lot stronger, and I could attribute the aggressiveness to an unfamiliar playstyle. And I am, or at least I'm trying to understand why they are townreading you, because regardless if you are town or not, I don't think you did anything worth being townread over. u say ur trying to understand but hmm I don't see that. u just say 'there must be scum here' and didn't question any of the others besides Ruu, esp about their perspectives or anything to do with understanding them.those posts u quoted are a questioning sequence and I'm sure they were resolved along the lines. if u say they're aggressive then yes, they are. as for whether aggression is bad, that's to opinion. I got what I wanted from those questions. is there anything suspicious of me simply for being 'aggressive'? Because I have reason to believe Ruu is scum besides her read on you, unlike the other three who were townreading you. It's one reason coupled with several others. It's why Ruu is getting my attention as opposed to the others. And I don't know, aggression that's not actually connected to a read on someone or a defense of oneself is pretty pointless imo. What did you gain from those questions? I may be willing to acknowledge it as your playstyle, but not as easily as this is the first game I've played with you since Twins, and I don't remember you (or anyone, really) from that game. I am asking you, as others are, to put your vote where it'll count. Calling that request scummy/not protown doesn't help. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 1:25 PM
#359
lastwhisper31 said: okie dokie. I aint looking for the flip tho. trying to steal a win from this argument eh? lolPhraze said: fine let's drop this, but if Ruu flips scum, I'm coming for your booty. Yes this is pretty flip association. Fite melastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: The only time I've seen Ruu push as scum is when I was her scum buddy, and she bussed me to the ends of the Earth.lastwhisper31 said: hmmm not rly. I've seen scum!Ruu as a pushy player. town!Ruu was more careful with her words, since it could be easily used against her. maybe she acts differently around u <3Phraze said: Again I never said you were scummy, and I'm not saying Ruu is 100% confirmed scum either. But if we gunna lean her based on meta game then we have widely different opinions of town Ruu.lastwhisper31 said: hmmm and ur trying to make me out as scummy for NAI reasons. notedPhraze said: it's pretty nai, there was a point where I thought like that, but I've seen it used by both sides.another thing, why should I vote someone I suspect just cuz I was talking to someone else? I have my own time to place my own vote. directing my vote isn't very protown yknow |
Sep 10, 2017 1:25 PM
#360
Phraze said: [edit. it also feels like ur trying to use me as a shield for u to scumread others. how droll] Are you reading my posts? You are aware I have other reasons to scumread Ruu, right? And that I'm not pursuing CP or Abu or aa-dono at the moment? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 1:37 PM
#361
aa-dono said: I like this post from aa-dono. There's a lack of agenda here regarding her CP read.;-; Why do people like mindmelds? I want to to catch scum CP, but it's getting harder now. Agree on Kit. yurkin said: Let me put it this way: It was an early gut read I made in an attempt to start getting opinions going in the thread. Even if it wasn't strong, I wanted to start contributing and Abu's post was a good place to start. Is this making more sense?-the stuff is it was too early in the game for the question to be effective, at the time line where is placed makes it a question that will be answered with "idk" or "its too early to tell" - because its exactly so. Can appreciate the intent but can't call it "true game specific question" due to its placements. What conversation was started thanks to it for you to like it? Could you have answered it for real at that time and place? If no then its not a good question. If you have any more questions regarding my posts, I'll be happy to answer. --- @Ruu Why are you not a fan of dono? I liked RE's push on Ruu at first because I can follow her though process easily and she makes a couple good arguments on the surface. However, I don't care much for LW's jump to Ruu on 268 and really didn't like RE's response to it. @RE1031 How is your read on Ruu so strong that you didn't think to investigate LW's reasons for jumping? RE1031 said: Do you think the Cross train is going to last up to EoD? I'm disagreeing with you here because no one seems to be actively pushing Cross to get lynched. Good, that's what I was hoping, because even though he's posted barely anything, I think Crossbell may be taking the blunt of the bussing this time around. (aka, I need to reread him, but I kind of think he is scum, based on his posts asking a bunch questions and not actually pushing much + I feel like Ruu may be bussing him lol). Crossbell said: Okay, with your and CP's meta reads + Others chiming in, I'm thinking that the activity argument is NAI. Yeah. He was very lurky in that game. We ended up bussing him Day 1 which turned out to be a poor move in retrospect. /Caught up to 344 |
Sep 10, 2017 1:40 PM
#363
RE1031 said: I seePhraze said: @RE1031 [#348] I haven't confronted you because my tell on Ruu was a lot stronger, and I could attribute the aggressiveness to an unfamiliar playstyle. And I am, or at least I'm trying to understand why they are townreading you, because regardless if you are town or not, I don't think you did anything worth being townread over. those posts u quoted are a questioning sequence and I'm sure they were resolved along the lines. if u say they're aggressive then yes, they are. as for whether aggression is bad, that's to opinion. I got what I wanted from those questions. is there anything suspicious of me simply for being 'aggressive'? Because I have reason to believe Ruu is scum besides her read on you, unlike the other three who were townreading you. It's one reason coupled with several others. It's why Ruu is getting my attention as opposed to the others. And I don't know, aggression that's not actually connected to a read on someone or a defense of oneself is pretty pointless imo. What did you gain from those questions? I may be willing to acknowledge it as your playstyle, but not as easily as this is the first game I've played with you since Twins, and I don't remember you (or anyone, really) from that game. I am asking you, as others are, to put your vote where it'll count. Calling that request scummy/not protown doesn't help. got from those questions how the others were thinking. nothing much but I'm docking points along the way. my playstyle tends to differ tho.. smtimes I'm aggressive and other times observant/distant pls dont expect me to be aggressive all the time haha changing my vote means getting out of rvs, meaning I should be questioning whoever I suspect/vote. idk if I have anyone worth that option yet. everyone's talking to me regardless of my vote afterall lel |
Sep 10, 2017 1:40 PM
#364
Whisper, can you focus more on game we are playing right now? I mean, you explain terms and stuff, meta read Ruu... so much that I got a feeling you are mostly doing stuff unrelated to current game. |
Sep 10, 2017 1:41 PM
#365
RE1031 said: yeahPhraze said: [edit. it also feels like ur trying to use me as a shield for u to scumread others. how droll] Are you reading my posts? You are aware I have other reasons to scumread Ruu, right? And that I'm not pursuing CP or Abu or aa-dono at the moment? |
Sep 10, 2017 1:42 PM
#366
Vote Count 1.6 Crossbell (2): Phraze, Ruu CorruptedPurity (2): AbuHumaid, Crossbell Gruffin (2): aa-dono, yurkin Ruu (2): RE1031, lastwhisper31 Lastwhisper31 (1): AlbertinoDias roz1roz (1): Kit AbuHumaid (1): CorruptedPurity AlbertinoDias (1): esgribunomirtlol RE1031 (1): Gruffin Not Voting (3): Floofs, Oyasumi_Rosie, roz1roz >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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Sep 10, 2017 1:44 PM
#367
Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 Can confirm. Phraze is a different type of player, so we have to be careful to make sure we're lynching her because she's scum instead of because she's acting different from the rest of us.how many times u played with Ruu? I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? |
Sep 10, 2017 1:46 PM
#368
Gruffin said: I liked RE's push on Ruu at first because I can follow her though process easily and she makes a couple good arguments on the surface. However, I don't care much for LW's jump to Ruu on 268 and really didn't like RE's response to it. @RE1031 How is your read on Ruu so strong that you didn't think to investigate LW's reasons for jumping? RE1031 said: Do you think the Cross train is going to last up to EoD? I'm disagreeing with you here because no one seems to be actively pushing Cross to get lynched.Good, that's what I was hoping, because even though he's posted barely anything, I think Crossbell may be taking the blunt of the bussing this time around. (aka, I need to reread him, but I kind of think he is scum, based on his posts asking a bunch questions and not actually pushing much + I feel like Ruu may be bussing him lol). I am, I just would rather go after Ruu? I really hate repeating myself, so do you want me to link you the posts where I am actively suspecting him? Also, I have no idea. If it's between Crossbell and someone not Ruu, I may be more inclined to switch my vote on Crossbell because he is one of my suspects. Because I've played with Ruu countless times as town and this isn't her town game, I am almost certain. Also, I did question LW's jump. A little bit. In #271. Which I think you read and didn't like for some reason - please elaborate. How do you feel about yurkin? Even though she didn't vote Ruu, she definitely questioned Ruu as well. And I just love how you completely ignore my reasoning for thinking Ruu is scum. Well, not entirely, you say you liked my reasoning. So what is this, have you decided to ignore my case and go for how the train formed rather than actually considering that Ruu might be scum? |
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Sep 10, 2017 1:50 PM
#369
Sep 10, 2017 1:52 PM
#370
yess! Internet is back! give me a min to read and answer stuff I couldn't before |
Sep 10, 2017 1:53 PM
#371
Phraze said: RE1031 said: I seePhraze said: @RE1031 [#348] I haven't confronted you because my tell on Ruu was a lot stronger, and I could attribute the aggressiveness to an unfamiliar playstyle. And I am, or at least I'm trying to understand why they are townreading you, because regardless if you are town or not, I don't think you did anything worth being townread over. u say ur trying to understand but hmm I don't see that. u just say 'there must be scum here' and didn't question any of the others besides Ruu, esp about their perspectives or anything to do with understanding them.those posts u quoted are a questioning sequence and I'm sure they were resolved along the lines. if u say they're aggressive then yes, they are. as for whether aggression is bad, that's to opinion. I got what I wanted from those questions. is there anything suspicious of me simply for being 'aggressive'? Because I have reason to believe Ruu is scum besides her read on you, unlike the other three who were townreading you. It's one reason coupled with several others. It's why Ruu is getting my attention as opposed to the others. And I don't know, aggression that's not actually connected to a read on someone or a defense of oneself is pretty pointless imo. What did you gain from those questions? I may be willing to acknowledge it as your playstyle, but not as easily as this is the first game I've played with you since Twins, and I don't remember you (or anyone, really) from that game. I am asking you, as others are, to put your vote where it'll count. Calling that request scummy/not protown doesn't help. got from those questions how the others were thinking. nothing much but I'm docking points along the way. my playstyle tends to differ tho.. smtimes I'm aggressive and other times observant/distant pls dont expect me to be aggressive all the time haha changing my vote means getting out of rvs, meaning I should be questioning whoever I suspect/vote. idk if I have anyone worth that option yet. everyone's talking to me regardless of my vote afterall lel Well, not necessarily. Your vote's on Crossbell, correct? Did you read my mini case/commentary on him? I don't mind your vote on him so much as you're not pushing him despite being wary of him. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 1:56 PM
#373
Gruffin said: Understandable, but yet again, I don't really see her has scum, so I'm not planning to place a vote on her any time soonPhraze said: @lastwhisper31 Can confirm. Phraze is a different type of player, so we have to be careful to make sure we're lynching her because she's scum instead of because she's acting different from the rest of us.how many times u played with Ruu? I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 1:56 PM
#374
Ruu said: self meta is scummy, don't play the "I'm always scummy, deal with it" card defend yourself with strong cases. Those what make people town read youI think It's completely fake. I rolled scum more times than town so I'm an easy mislynch. Scum coming after me on D1 wouldn't be a surprise. She is completely twisting my words to fit her narrative and unfortunately people are buying it. For now all I can do is prove my innocence so I will focus on that. Another thing I don't like is her association technique. Basing her read on dono completely on my behaviour is not the way to go. |
Sep 10, 2017 1:58 PM
#375
Vote: Ruu I don't know if I'm being pocketed or not right now, but I like RE so far and I trust her. Her case on Ruu is on point while Ruu's defense is poor |
Sep 10, 2017 1:59 PM
#376
AbuHumaid said: +1Ruu said: self meta is scummy, don't play the "I'm always scummy, deal with it" card defend yourself with strong cases. Those what make people town read youI think It's completely fake. I rolled scum more times than town so I'm an easy mislynch. Scum coming after me on D1 wouldn't be a surprise. She is completely twisting my words to fit her narrative and unfortunately people are buying it. For now all I can do is prove my innocence so I will focus on that. Another thing I don't like is her association technique. Basing her read on dono completely on my behaviour is not the way to go. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 2:04 PM
#377
Crossbell said: As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. wth is this Bell, who does that? trying to get NK is a silly move cause once you die the fun is over. This looks fake to me. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:08 PM
#378
Ruu said: Crossbell said: As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. wth is this Bell, who does that? trying to get NK is a silly move cause once you die the fun is over. This looks fake to me. So you think he would lie about his [town] meta? I mean, what gets to me about that post is the fact that he's finding the difference between Abu and him even remotely significant. That in addition to his biggest (and frankly, only) contribution to the game being investigating CP and Abu and not coming to any serious conclusion about them. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:09 PM
#379
RE1031 said: yes I did. I liked that reasoning tbh. seen town!Crossbell before and he was proactive in questioning and getting answers, this time he's cruising. I'm kinda worried he'd go under radar come EoD, so I like my vote on him. but I'm looking for more options.Phraze said: RE1031 said: Phraze said: @RE1031 [#348] I haven't confronted you because my tell on Ruu was a lot stronger, and I could attribute the aggressiveness to an unfamiliar playstyle. And I am, or at least I'm trying to understand why they are townreading you, because regardless if you are town or not, I don't think you did anything worth being townread over. u say ur trying to understand but hmm I don't see that. u just say 'there must be scum here' and didn't question any of the others besides Ruu, esp about their perspectives or anything to do with understanding them.those posts u quoted are a questioning sequence and I'm sure they were resolved along the lines. if u say they're aggressive then yes, they are. as for whether aggression is bad, that's to opinion. I got what I wanted from those questions. is there anything suspicious of me simply for being 'aggressive'? Because I have reason to believe Ruu is scum besides her read on you, unlike the other three who were townreading you. It's one reason coupled with several others. It's why Ruu is getting my attention as opposed to the others. And I don't know, aggression that's not actually connected to a read on someone or a defense of oneself is pretty pointless imo. What did you gain from those questions? I may be willing to acknowledge it as your playstyle, but not as easily as this is the first game I've played with you since Twins, and I don't remember you (or anyone, really) from that game. I am asking you, as others are, to put your vote where it'll count. Calling that request scummy/not protown doesn't help. got from those questions how the others were thinking. nothing much but I'm docking points along the way. my playstyle tends to differ tho.. smtimes I'm aggressive and other times observant/distant pls dont expect me to be aggressive all the time haha changing my vote means getting out of rvs, meaning I should be questioning whoever I suspect/vote. idk if I have anyone worth that option yet. everyone's talking to me regardless of my vote afterall lel Well, not necessarily. Your vote's on Crossbell, correct? Did you read my mini case/commentary on him? I don't mind your vote on him so much as you're not pushing him despite being wary of him. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:11 PM
#380
Ruu said: I think this is as from the heart as it gets. This play style scares people in to talking, and dying doesn't mean he lost.Crossbell said: As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. wth is this Bell, who does that? trying to get NK is a silly move cause once you die the fun is over. This looks fake to me. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 2:12 PM
#381
RE1031 said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: Thanks~RE1031 said: yurkin said: Ruu said: Phraze said: AbuHumaid said: caught? I aint voted anyone there yet~ [edit: oh I alrdy did]Phraze said: oh, already caught scum?AbuHumaid said: I would like to think yes. the last one xDDo you guys think there's scum on Laat's early train? This exchange caught my attention. I will keep this in mind for later ~ Im interested to know what specifically catch you attention there ruu. @Ruu did you ever follow up on this? ruu's #257 Ruu said: Posts I like from Phraze (my town reads are not set in stone people, but for now, Phraze is a candidate for my town block) #63 #77 #78 #82 #95 She explains her reasons for voting Cross on rvs, she is always clear about the fact that for now she is focusing on pressure/sorting out people and not scum reading cause it's too early to give out reads (which makes sense cause we were on page 1/2). Re-reading I realized why she said "I'm not voting for anyone" . She didn't consider her vote on Cross as a real one since it was rvs and not based on an actual read. I might be wrong but that made sense when reading the exchange. It's not a solid case and it can't be since she was online for a couple of hours (page 1/2) but for now I'm not getting scum vibes. This could change ofc, after all she is my Romeo and we always end up lynching each other lol Okay, I see. Her early posts sounded rather contradictory and aggressive for no apparent reason, which gave me bad vibes. And then four townreads on her sprung up and regardless of the player, that is not natural by any means. I suspect scum to be among that pile (CP, Abu, you, and aa-dono), and right now, that is you. now see.. I like this post from you. We don't see eye to eye on this read, I'm cool with that. I do agree that someone on that list must be scum. Which ones where agressive or contradictory? can you point them out? I want to understand your reasoning. If you think I'm scum that fine, as long as you don't end up tunneling on me... Thoughts on Cross and yurkin? I don't like Cross's posts. There are so many questions in them that seem shallow, kind of pointless, and with no direction in mind, not a lot of pushes (only one I recall was to get CP more active). Could blame inactivity for this read, and quite possibly will change, but a scumlean for now. I like yurkin's posts. Well, recent posts, because I don't really remember the posts prior to the last 2-3 pages. I like that she agreed with me; in her #258, she doesn't just blindly agree, she adds on her own thoughts, and then pursues the read with her #260. There's nothing about her posts that gave me bad vibes to make me question my townread on her based on those two posts I linked. I agree with this. I need to work on my ISO on Bell -_- |
Sep 10, 2017 2:13 PM
#382
Ruu said: hmm not sure if this is worth pointing outCrossbell said: As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. wth is this Bell, who does that? trying to get NK is a silly move cause once you die the fun is over. This looks fake to me. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:14 PM
#383
Phraze said: and if anything her post just seems forced and just as fake, as crossbells post is to her.Ruu said: hmm not sure if this is worth pointing outCrossbell said: As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. wth is this Bell, who does that? trying to get NK is a silly move cause once you die the fun is over. This looks fake to me. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 2:15 PM
#384
AbuHumaid said: what points on Ruu? wanna hear ur opinion on itVote: Ruu I don't know if I'm being pocketed or not right now, but I like RE so far and I trust her. Her case on Ruu is on point while Ruu's defense is poor |
Sep 10, 2017 2:17 PM
#385
RE1031 said: Yeah, I saw 271, but it looked more like acknowledgement that it was there instead of actively questioning LW's intentions.I am, I just would rather go after Ruu? I really hate repeating myself, so do you want me to link you the posts where I am actively suspecting him? Also, I have no idea. If it's between Crossbell and someone not Ruu, I may be more inclined to switch my vote on Crossbell because he is one of my suspects. Because I've played with Ruu countless times as town and this isn't her town game, I am almost certain. Also, I did question LW's jump. A little bit. In #271. Which I think you read and didn't like for some reason - please elaborate. How do you feel about yurkin? Even though she didn't vote Ruu, she definitely questioned Ruu as well. And I just love how you completely ignore my reasoning for thinking Ruu is scum. Well, not entirely, you say you liked my reasoning. So what is this, have you decided to ignore my case and go for how the train formed rather than actually considering that Ruu might be scum? I'll get back to you on Yurkin. I'd like to reread them later. Your reasoning sounds good at first, like these posts: RE1031 said: I'll steal this post. As scum, you are more possessive/dominant/controlling. I see this here in the bold. The first bolded part assumes dominance through diminishing someone's reads by claiming not to understand them. The second gives the impression the speaker wants to contribute, which is very misleading, not to mention just screams fake. Wow I'm a weirdo. RE1031 said: But then I thought about your case a little more and you're not taking context into account. As is this, because I don't see what's to like about Phraze's posts, they actually rubbed me the wrong to be honest. And I noticed aa-dono had the same exact read (#188), which is kind of bothering me, too. Phraze at this point needs a reread, since I don't remember much from her past page 3. She could be scum, or she could be town just requiring more attention from me. But those two (aa-dono and Ruu) gave a town read way too early imo, and for little to no reason. *edited link* **edited name** For example, 275 still hasn't been addressed iirc. Why? --- RE1031 said: I think that's a possibility, but I need to poke around a little more to be sure.@Gruffin Let me get this straight. Are you suspecting me and LW to be scum together? Because we agree on the same read, which you agreed on as well? You see where I'm going with this? The reasons for my suspicion is more about the lack of questioning going on between you and LW. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:18 PM
#386
lastwhisper31 said: interesting. I didn't notice much of their interactions.Phraze said: and if anything her post just seems forced and just as fake, as crossbells post is to her.Ruu said: Crossbell said: As town I play to get NK'd immediately so the fact that we have very different impressions on how to play town is striking to me. wth is this Bell, who does that? trying to get NK is a silly move cause once you die the fun is over. This looks fake to me. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:21 PM
#387
That's what you think! >:D lastwhisper31 said: Okay, can you give me any reads you may have at this time + explanations?Understandable, but yet again, I don't really see her has scum, so I'm not planning to place a vote on her any time soon |
Sep 10, 2017 2:22 PM
#388
Gruffin said: so what do you think? I can tell you that our little interactions are not w/w. But the possibility of her trying to pocket me did cross my mind, after the whole "I'm scared of you, but I'll leave you for later".RE1031 said: Yeah, I saw 271, but it looked more like acknowledgement that it was there instead of actively questioning LW's intentions.I am, I just would rather go after Ruu? I really hate repeating myself, so do you want me to link you the posts where I am actively suspecting him? Also, I have no idea. If it's between Crossbell and someone not Ruu, I may be more inclined to switch my vote on Crossbell because he is one of my suspects. Because I've played with Ruu countless times as town and this isn't her town game, I am almost certain. Also, I did question LW's jump. A little bit. In #271. Which I think you read and didn't like for some reason - please elaborate. How do you feel about yurkin? Even though she didn't vote Ruu, she definitely questioned Ruu as well. And I just love how you completely ignore my reasoning for thinking Ruu is scum. Well, not entirely, you say you liked my reasoning. So what is this, have you decided to ignore my case and go for how the train formed rather than actually considering that Ruu might be scum? I'll get back to you on Yurkin. I'd like to reread them later. Your reasoning sounds good at first, like these posts: RE1031 said: I'll steal this post. As scum, you are more possessive/dominant/controlling. I see this here in the bold. The first bolded part assumes dominance through diminishing someone's reads by claiming not to understand them. The second gives the impression the speaker wants to contribute, which is very misleading, not to mention just screams fake. Wow I'm a weirdo. RE1031 said: But then I thought about your case a little more and you're not taking context into account. As is this, because I don't see what's to like about Phraze's posts, they actually rubbed me the wrong to be honest. And I noticed aa-dono had the same exact read (#188), which is kind of bothering me, too. Phraze at this point needs a reread, since I don't remember much from her past page 3. She could be scum, or she could be town just requiring more attention from me. But those two (aa-dono and Ruu) gave a town read way too early imo, and for little to no reason. *edited link* **edited name** For example, 275 still hasn't been addressed iirc. Why? --- RE1031 said: I think that's a possibility, but I need to poke around a little more to be sure.@Gruffin Let me get this straight. Are you suspecting me and LW to be scum together? Because we agree on the same read, which you agreed on as well? You see where I'm going with this? The reasons for my suspicion is more about the lack of questioning going on between you and LW. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 2:25 PM
#390
Gruffin said: RE1031 said: Yeah, I saw 271, but it looked more like acknowledgement that it was there instead of actively questioning LW's intentions.I am, I just would rather go after Ruu? I really hate repeating myself, so do you want me to link you the posts where I am actively suspecting him? Also, I have no idea. If it's between Crossbell and someone not Ruu, I may be more inclined to switch my vote on Crossbell because he is one of my suspects. Because I've played with Ruu countless times as town and this isn't her town game, I am almost certain. Also, I did question LW's jump. A little bit. In #271. Which I think you read and didn't like for some reason - please elaborate. How do you feel about yurkin? Even though she didn't vote Ruu, she definitely questioned Ruu as well. And I just love how you completely ignore my reasoning for thinking Ruu is scum. Well, not entirely, you say you liked my reasoning. So what is this, have you decided to ignore my case and go for how the train formed rather than actually considering that Ruu might be scum? Call it bad or whatever, but I'm not going to question someone who is agreeing with me because I want them to push the person I'm suspecting the most. I can deal with the consequences later. It's not something weird enough for me to completely reconsider my suspect(s). Your reasoning sounds good at first, like these posts: RE1031 said: I'll steal this post. As scum, you are more possessive/dominant/controlling. I see this here in the bold. The first bolded part assumes dominance through diminishing someone's reads by claiming not to understand them. The second gives the impression the speaker wants to contribute, which is very misleading, not to mention just screams fake. Wow I'm a weirdo. RE1031 said: But then I thought about your case a little more and you're not taking context into account. As is this, because I don't see what's to like about Phraze's posts, they actually rubbed me the wrong to be honest. And I noticed aa-dono had the same exact read (#188), which is kind of bothering me, too. Phraze at this point needs a reread, since I don't remember much from her past page 3. She could be scum, or she could be town just requiring more attention from me. But those two (aa-dono and Ruu) gave a town read way too early imo, and for little to no reason. *edited link* **edited name** For example, 275 still hasn't been addressed iirc. Why? Because I'm lazy and don't want to reread aa-dono. I will, I promise. Do you agree with Ruu, by any chance, about her read on aa-dono? RE1031 said: I think that's a possibility, but I need to poke around a little more to be sure.@Gruffin Let me get this straight. Are you suspecting me and LW to be scum together? Because we agree on the same read, which you agreed on as well? You see where I'm going with this? The reasons for my suspicion is more about the lack of questioning going on between you and LW. See, this bothers me. You're not taking into account Ruu's behavior. You need to in order to determine whether my read or LW's read (or anyone else's read who is suspecting Ruu) is valid. And right now, I'm not getting that from you. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:26 PM
#391
lastwhisper31 said: Not sure yet; that's what I'm trying to figure out.so what do you think? I can tell you that our little interactions are not w/w. But the possibility of her trying to pocket me did cross my mind, after the whole "I'm scared of you, but I'll leave you for later". Do you think that scum!RE would be more likely to take a more proactive approach or lay low? And do you think that she would try to fake paranoia like that? |
Sep 10, 2017 2:27 PM
#392
Sep 10, 2017 2:31 PM
#393
lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: I mean if u get scum read in the end, its your and only your fault. But if your gunna talk about clearing someone with meta, then at least be correct. It ain't even about going against the grain, unless u played some game with Ruu that is the opposite of what I've seen everygame from here. I've played enough with her to say right now, this is farthest from her town style that I've seen in a while.lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? I know this is not directed at me but can I say that I'm trying to change my town meta because I keep getting lynch because of it? See my stats, I keep getting lynch or dying. That way of playing is not working for me. I'm trying to change but it seems my attempt will get my lynch anyways... smh. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:31 PM
#394
@Gruffin #276 - I'm curious, did you read this post of mine? I nearly forgot I made it. No, it isn't a heavy, serious suspicion, just an inkling of a bad feeling, but I don't exactly see why you're associating me with LW. Especially when I even I said I townread yurkin, not LW, for agreeing with me and adding her own thoughts. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:31 PM
#395
plot twist, we're in a bastard setup |
Sep 10, 2017 2:32 PM
#396
Gruffin said: To start this off I've never played with scum!Re so this is speculation based on how she plays town. 1) she has a very aggressive play style as town, I might have to read "Little Witch Acadamia" to see if it holds true for her scum game also. 2) I mean personally I've faked paranoia as both mafia and town, so I really don't know.lastwhisper31 said: Not sure yet; that's what I'm trying to figure out.so what do you think? I can tell you that our little interactions are not w/w. But the possibility of her trying to pocket me did cross my mind, after the whole "I'm scared of you, but I'll leave you for later". Do you think that scum!RE would be more likely to take a more proactive approach or lay low? And do you think that she would try to fake paranoia like that? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Sep 10, 2017 2:32 PM
#397
@Bursama can we get a vc so I can see how many people want me dead? ty ~ |
Sep 10, 2017 2:33 PM
#398
Sep 10, 2017 2:34 PM
#399
lastwhisper31 said: To start this off I've never played with scum!Re FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Sep 10, 2017 2:34 PM
#400
Ruu said: Ruu stop with the self meta, and you can't use stats that can be edited outside of the forum post to defend urself, that's dumb. Just work on building a case on someone. Please for our sake if you really are town.lastwhisper31 said: Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: how many times u played with Ruu?Phraze said: sorry call this omgus, but ur wrong with ur opinion on Ruu's playstyle. And if RE is scum why not place ur vote there, what are you holding ur vote for? This is giving me senki mafia flashbacks where u got lynched because of ur bad reasoning for sheeping. So which is it here, are you town afraid of garnering reasons to get voted, or mafia afraid to place a reason cause you lack a strong case?AlbertinoDias said: I'll have to admit I think this is town!Ruu. she is more careful with her choice of words as town, and less 'airy' in her response. RE could be scumheyhoo!!! i'm back :3 almost, but what is w/w w/v v/v?? :) well i think that Ruu's #290 is a forced post... she gives town points with things that are NAI (in my eyes ofc) her #282 seems legit though... i've only played with scum Ruu so far... any questions?? :) when i'm here i'll answer them :3 I didn't have bad reasons in Senki mafia. in fact, I was right. if u don't know guess u can now, I play differently from most. @Gruffin @Kit can vouch for that. just cuz I go against the flow doesn't make me wrong, or is that what ur hoping for? I know this is not directed at me but can I say that I'm trying to change my town meta because I keep getting lynch because of it? See my stats, I keep getting lynch or dying. That way of playing is not working for me. I'm trying to change but it seems my attempt will get my lynch anyways... smh. |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
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