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Aug 12, 2017 3:23 PM
#951
lastwhisper31 said: Since i just made a case against logic, I am looking for insight from others rather then hearing Logic's thoughts.Suzune-chan said: I def will, sorrylastwhisper31 said: @Logic I don't want to pocket you as town, but if possible can u sum up what happened. And maybe give me the numbers of all the important posts. All I know is that it's twilight with yurkin and Ruu? I'm on my break at work |
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Aug 12, 2017 3:30 PM
#952
Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. |
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Aug 12, 2017 3:31 PM
#953
why don't you read what I post? are you mafia trying to get rid of town or what? |
Aug 12, 2017 3:32 PM
#954
lastwhisper31 said: Nah I am going to have to leave that to someone else.....Make town blocks it's my fault town always loses.@Logic I don't want to pocket you as town, but if possible can u sum up what happened. And maybe give me the numbers of all the important posts. All I know is that it's twilight with yurkin and Ruu? I'm on my break at work Don't make town blocks I am too swingy. Help someone I am buddying and trying to pocket them. I need a moment.... |
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Aug 12, 2017 3:33 PM
#955
I read it later....I even responded with how I feel about it. I am throwing up right now. |
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Aug 12, 2017 3:36 PM
#956
logic340 said: I read it later....I even responded with how I feel about it. I am throwing up right now. okay good. I just saw your post. I was so mad at you logic! I didn't want to claim but you know I'm scummy by nature so it would have being hard to defend myself during a twilight round. Especially when @Suzune-chan was scum reading me. I don't know how to defend myself from her xDD |
Aug 12, 2017 3:36 PM
#957
logic340 said: In this case very little was on tone as you had started to bother me earlier and I thought it was strange. It was only when I was catching up today that I started to think you were off and that you were not playing for the town. The tone was just the start of it and what I started doing, but it kind of all dissolved away into what I actually saw. Which is quite a bit difference. While I do use tone quite a bit and it is the lead weapon in my inventory it is not, what I use all the time. It is actually a strain to use it every time you want it because if it was there I mentioned it at the time, if not I actually need to read back to find it because it was non-memorable. It was only that I said it earlier that I had a place to go from, but while reading a good majority of your posts that I really understood where within them that you were bothering me and it was not tone, but swingyness. Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 12, 2017 3:38 PM
#958
Ruu said: In the moment. If I am hot on it then I am still developing a read for it. The longer it take you to figure out what to say the more solidified I become that I am right because you cannot fight back. So the fact you came back later all laid out, made me think you had sat down and planned it. logic340 said: I read it later....I even responded with how I feel about it. I am throwing up right now. okay good. I just saw your post. I was so mad at you logic! I didn't want to claim but you know I'm scummy by nature so it would have being hard to defend myself during a twilight round. Especially when @Suzune-chan was scum reading me. I don't know how to defend myself from her xDD I feel all over the place this game, where am I? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 12, 2017 3:42 PM
#959
Suzune-chan said: You will have to give examples of the bolded. I have done way more for town than a handful of the inactive players combine, and this isn't me trying to be rude or toot my own horn, it's just fact of what has transpired here. When I am scum I am most helpful to town so the fact that youscum read for me not helping town is quite interesting. Maybe I have my own interests at heart a little bit this game? logic340 said: In this case very little was on tone as you had started to bother me earlier and I thought it was strange. It was only when I was catching up today that I started to think you were off and that you were not playing for the town. The tone was just the start of it and what I started doing, but it kind of all dissolved away into what I actually saw. Which is quite a bit difference. While I do use tone quite a bit and it is the lead weapon in my inventory it is not, what I use all the time. It is actually a strain to use it every time you want it because if it was there I mentioned it at the time, if not I actually need to read back to find it because it was non-memorable. It was only that I said it earlier that I had a place to go from, but while reading a good majority of your posts that I really understood where within them that you were bothering me and it was not tone, but swingyness. Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. Well now that I knw it's like that I will let you do them on your own because just like asking for a read list I get the feeling this may be a bit forced since I asked for it. Anyway thanks for the scum read I hope it helps me avoid a night kill tonight and we can further discuss tomorrow. If your not scum then I hope they think it's something they want try an use to buddy you or down me. |
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Aug 12, 2017 3:51 PM
#960
logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: You will have to give examples of the bolded. I have done way more for town than a handful of the inactive players combine, and this isn't me trying to be rude or toot my own horn, it's just fact of what has transpired here. When I am scum I am most helpful to town so the fact that youscum read for me not helping town is quite interesting. Maybe I have my own interests at heart a little bit this game? logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. Well now that I knw it's like that I will let you do them on your own because just like asking for a read list I get the feeling this may be a bit forced since I asked for it. Anyway thanks for the scum read I hope it helps me avoid a night kill tonight and we can further discuss tomorrow. If your not scum then I hope they think it's something they want try an use to buddy you or down me. I will give you the same critique I once gave Whisper. You try to hard to agree with what is going on at the moment in this game. That is what I noticed to say the least. You agree with whoever is around. Not from a I hear your perspective but from a I will mirror your perspective. That is something I noticed in this game. While I will not argue that you provided more posts and pushed the game into action on more then one instance. I am merely suggesting that you are are both helping people find things while at the same time not really doing as much as you could. I have died the first night of the last two games, so I don't do things to help or hinder myself. This serves as a collection of my thoughts and where I am. It was more like you asked for a read on someone from a certain way. I did not have one but went to make one because I felt like I should try to give you one. While I was doing that realized that my initial read was wrong. |
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Aug 12, 2017 3:58 PM
#961
Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: In this case very little was on tone as you had started to bother me earlier and I thought it was strange. It was only when I was catching up today that I started to think you were off and that you were not playing for the town. The tone was just the start of it and what I started doing, but it kind of all dissolved away into what I actually saw. Which is quite a bit difference. While I do use tone quite a bit and it is the lead weapon in my inventory it is not, what I use all the time. It is actually a strain to use it every time you want it because if it was there I mentioned it at the time, if not I actually need to read back to find it because it was non-memorable. It was only that I said it earlier that I had a place to go from, but while reading a good majority of your posts that I really understood where within them that you were bothering me and it was not tone, but swingyness. Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. Well now that I knw it's like that I will let you do them on your own because just like asking for a read list I get the feeling this may be a bit forced since I asked for it. Anyway thanks for the scum read I hope it helps me avoid a night kill tonight and we can further discuss tomorrow. If your not scum then I hope they think it's something they want try an use to buddy you or down me. I will give you the same critique I once gave Whisper. You try to hard to agree with what is going on at the moment in this game. That is what I noticed to say the least. You agree with whoever is around. Not from a I hear your perspective but from a I will mirror your perspective. That is something I noticed in this game. While I will not argue that you provided more posts and pushed the game into action on more then one instance. I am merely suggesting that you are are both helping people find things while at the same time not really doing as much as you could. I have died the first night of the last two games, so I don't do things to help or hinder myself. This serves as a collection of my thoughts and where I am. It was more like you asked for a read on someone from a certain way. I did not have one but went to make one because I felt like I should try to give you one. While I was doing that realized that my initial read was wrong. 1. I know it's a dirty word but "absolutely false". Who have I agreed with when they were on line just for the sake of it? Coro? Ruu? Nikamara? yurkin? Let's be real here suzu why so fallacious all of a sudden? 2. I am slightly insulted all my reads were my own. I did 3 ISO's this phase along with the other wealth of content I provided. What more do you want from me. Burden of Prophecy much? 3. I don't worry about myself i worry about the town. Though i do it in a self serving way since i am so damn active. 4. Yes sorting that logic guy early is always a good thing. I think i have said that at least twice here this game alone. I say these things for a reason.... |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:10 PM
#962
logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: You will have to give examples of the bolded. I have done way more for town than a handful of the inactive players combine, and this isn't me trying to be rude or toot my own horn, it's just fact of what has transpired here. When I am scum I am most helpful to town so the fact that youscum read for me not helping town is quite interesting. Maybe I have my own interests at heart a little bit this game? logic340 said: In this case very little was on tone as you had started to bother me earlier and I thought it was strange. It was only when I was catching up today that I started to think you were off and that you were not playing for the town. The tone was just the start of it and what I started doing, but it kind of all dissolved away into what I actually saw. Which is quite a bit difference. While I do use tone quite a bit and it is the lead weapon in my inventory it is not, what I use all the time. It is actually a strain to use it every time you want it because if it was there I mentioned it at the time, if not I actually need to read back to find it because it was non-memorable. It was only that I said it earlier that I had a place to go from, but while reading a good majority of your posts that I really understood where within them that you were bothering me and it was not tone, but swingyness. Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. Well now that I knw it's like that I will let you do them on your own because just like asking for a read list I get the feeling this may be a bit forced since I asked for it. Anyway thanks for the scum read I hope it helps me avoid a night kill tonight and we can further discuss tomorrow. If your not scum then I hope they think it's something they want try an use to buddy you or down me. I will give you the same critique I once gave Whisper. You try to hard to agree with what is going on at the moment in this game. That is what I noticed to say the least. You agree with whoever is around. Not from a I hear your perspective but from a I will mirror your perspective. That is something I noticed in this game. While I will not argue that you provided more posts and pushed the game into action on more then one instance. I am merely suggesting that you are are both helping people find things while at the same time not really doing as much as you could. I have died the first night of the last two games, so I don't do things to help or hinder myself. This serves as a collection of my thoughts and where I am. It was more like you asked for a read on someone from a certain way. I did not have one but went to make one because I felt like I should try to give you one. While I was doing that realized that my initial read was wrong. 1. I know it's a dirty word but "absolutely false". Who have I agreed with when they were on line just for the sake of it? Coro? Ruu? Nikamara? yurkin? Let's be real here suzu why so fallacious all of a sudden? 2. I am slightly insulted all my reads were my own. I did 3 ISO's this phase along with the other wealth of content I provided. What more do you want from me. Burden of Prophecy much? 3. I don't worry about myself i worry about the town. Though i do it in a self serving way since i am so damn active. 4. Yes sorting that logic guy early is always a good thing. I think i have said that at least twice here this game alone. I say these things for a reason.... 1. You are allowed to disagree with me. That is completely fine. Today, you sort of springboarded the sudden shift on to Coro, while admitting that you were doing a iso for them. I asked if you were judging them solely on their opening and initial vote instead of anything beyond that. You later when on to cite RE's initial argument regardless of whether it was intentional or not. This sudden change came from a new focus, you did get fired up about it and demanded that their defensiveness was scummy. This was a read that you did not have nine hours previous and just appeared right before the phase change making it quite suspect and I thought the argument took a lot for granted as it was the one that was beginning to be suspected in the topic at that time. 2. When you think something, as you do right now, you push it hard and you believe in it. You ask other people's opinions on it and you give them points of contention. From me as a player, you seemed less critical and were more easy going about people's opinions not really agreeing or disagreeing and I noticed someone of their arguements in yours later one. Also I felt like during moments that other people were focused elsewhere you never went back and responded on them and perhaps because I was online a lot of and asked you I felt like I was getting a lack of understanding from the direction you were going with your actions and the cycling of information. 3. I like when people do their own research because it slwos their alignment and what they choose or choose not to talk about. Guiding only when they are choosing not to follow something or have not commented on something. I understand it is kind of your thing, but I guess I sense something is not right. 4. Honestly, I find it easier to sort you the more I see you, but you kind of pushed a read early that was kind of bubbling but not much was brewing. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:20 PM
#963
yurkin said: /confirm yurkin said: roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? yurkin said: logic340 said: So this is not a mafia play in my opinion but I could be TPR motivated. @roz1roz I change what I said I like you for uninformed party. Oh, such follow up, after at first you too easily said hes post regarding the bait's purpose is comming from town. edit: typo yurkin said: @suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? yurkin said: ruu #291 "this post means that you read roz's post as bait but you don't explore that possibillity further. can i ask why?" -I was encountering persistent annoying problem with typing, i still do tbh. So i couldn't have posted much more than i did... yurkin said: lastwhisper31 said: lol i added the underlining. It has to do with him not being a newbie which i was aware of, and the word usage, the plural form and etc. yurkin said: roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? Too obv. not a slip for me take the bite. yurkin said: Btw that activity though... yurkin said: ruu's #332 "2) i want to put some pressure on them." Except plain votes alone do not pressure me at all lmao yurkin said: logics #422 "calling logic out for what exactly? This is a busy post and nothing else and she doesn't follow up." -i simply noted how you changed it from "i like this for town" to uninformed, the sk it uninformed as well, so i noted how u partly retracked your town lean town points or whatever it was that u gave roz. "so while yurkin was not confussed, i would say that the whole thing could be termed fence sitty considered that her only contribution to it was saying that it wasn't likely a gambit due to reading thread..." Nah, never mentioned a gambit. I said is not a mistake iow slip. What contribution u want there :3 like faking ignorance for the sake of looking more townish lolz edit: typo yurkin said: Oh and wow had to try quoting one of logic's everthing about everyone to find out there were spoilers inside the spoiler >.> yurkin said: logic #564 "how would faking ignorance get you town creds btw? Explain why you even wrote this line?" I dont mean ignorance in general, but in the concret case with roz and the reaction test he did. So ofc, if we for the sake of the argument assume roz is town, then the reaction if there is mafia among them is faked to look natural. And i see re's reaction as faked lol. But oh im you one and only scum lean lmao. Quite the active game d1, and a hyperactive logic... with scum lean on only yurk ... :/ hmm weird. Ok lynch me if you wish o/ yurkin said: logic340 said: yurkin said: ruu's #332 "2) i want to put some pressure on them." Except plain votes alone do not pressure me at all lmao Yup do encourage them logic. Thanks~ yurkin said: logic340 said: yurkin said: Oh and wow had to try quoting one of logic's everthing about everyone to find out there were spoilers inside the spoiler >.> Before hand?? I have read the game, read you opinions in the everything -username- but not the quotes u are addressing to since they are all apparently put in a spoiler inside a spoiler, and such do not work on mobile. yurkin said: RE1031 said: @Labs Any strong reads? I'm on mobile so I may have missed it, but all I've seen is you plopping a vote on yurkin for pressure. yurkin said: logic #564 "how would faking ignorance get you town creds btw? Explain why you even wrote this line?" I dont mean ignorance in general, but in the concret case with roz and the reaction test he did. So ofc, if we for the sake of the argument assume roz is town, then the reaction if there is mafia among them is faked to look natural. And i see re's reaction as faked lol. But oh im you one and only scum lean lmao. Quite the active game d1, and a hyperactive logic... with scum lean on only yurk ... :/ hmm weird. Ok lynch me if you wish o/ Then vote me. My God, "faked" is so painfully subjective... Oh so you never fake anything as scum :< thats interesting to note. But all that is hypothesis based on the "if roz is town" and im not sure about it being truth. yurkin said: ruu #580 "keyboard" wish i had lol I don't like giving excuses, i told you since you asked, but i should have stayed silent otherwise. I see i see, thats some scumhunting abilities for you. Not that i mind since i dont care if i get lynched today, 24 hours long phases are pain in the neck to handle. If I'm reading purely off of tone, yurkin is town. But otherwise, painfully neutral. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:22 PM
#964
@Suzune-chan I like this. I hope it can continue in to late hours of the evening. <3 |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:25 PM
#965
I'm here. You know where to find me~ |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:25 PM
#966
vote: no lynch Reading through yurkin's posts, I don't see her as scum. Back to being annoyed. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:30 PM
#967
I just realized, Rinto-kun replacing Abu. We're going to be in trouble. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:30 PM
#968
How many browser pages is this at? I want to know what I'm getting into before I get home? |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:32 PM
#969
Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: You will have to give examples of the bolded. I have done way more for town than a handful of the inactive players combine, and this isn't me trying to be rude or toot my own horn, it's just fact of what has transpired here. When I am scum I am most helpful to town so the fact that youscum read for me not helping town is quite interesting. Maybe I have my own interests at heart a little bit this game? logic340 said: In this case very little was on tone as you had started to bother me earlier and I thought it was strange. It was only when I was catching up today that I started to think you were off and that you were not playing for the town. The tone was just the start of it and what I started doing, but it kind of all dissolved away into what I actually saw. Which is quite a bit difference. While I do use tone quite a bit and it is the lead weapon in my inventory it is not, what I use all the time. It is actually a strain to use it every time you want it because if it was there I mentioned it at the time, if not I actually need to read back to find it because it was non-memorable. It was only that I said it earlier that I had a place to go from, but while reading a good majority of your posts that I really understood where within them that you were bothering me and it was not tone, but swingyness. Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. Well now that I knw it's like that I will let you do them on your own because just like asking for a read list I get the feeling this may be a bit forced since I asked for it. Anyway thanks for the scum read I hope it helps me avoid a night kill tonight and we can further discuss tomorrow. If your not scum then I hope they think it's something they want try an use to buddy you or down me. I will give you the same critique I once gave Whisper. You try to hard to agree with what is going on at the moment in this game. That is what I noticed to say the least. You agree with whoever is around. Not from a I hear your perspective but from a I will mirror your perspective. That is something I noticed in this game. While I will not argue that you provided more posts and pushed the game into action on more then one instance. I am merely suggesting that you are are both helping people find things while at the same time not really doing as much as you could. I have died the first night of the last two games, so I don't do things to help or hinder myself. This serves as a collection of my thoughts and where I am. It was more like you asked for a read on someone from a certain way. I did not have one but went to make one because I felt like I should try to give you one. While I was doing that realized that my initial read was wrong. 1. I know it's a dirty word but "absolutely false". Who have I agreed with when they were on line just for the sake of it? Coro? Ruu? Nikamara? yurkin? Let's be real here suzu why so fallacious all of a sudden? 2. I am slightly insulted all my reads were my own. I did 3 ISO's this phase along with the other wealth of content I provided. What more do you want from me. Burden of Prophecy much? 3. I don't worry about myself i worry about the town. Though i do it in a self serving way since i am so damn active. 4. Yes sorting that logic guy early is always a good thing. I think i have said that at least twice here this game alone. I say these things for a reason.... 1. You are allowed to disagree with me. That is completely fine. Today, you sort of springboarded the sudden shift on to Coro, while admitting that you were doing a iso for them. I asked if you were judging them solely on their opening and initial vote instead of anything beyond that. You later when on to cite RE's initial argument regardless of whether it was intentional or not. This sudden change came from a new focus, you did get fired up about it and demanded that their defensiveness was scummy. This was a read that you did not have nine hours previous and just appeared right before the phase change making it quite suspect and I thought the argument took a lot for granted as it was the one that was beginning to be suspected in the topic at that time. 2. When you think something, as you do right now, you push it hard and you believe in it. You ask other people's opinions on it and you give them points of contention. From me as a player, you seemed less critical and were more easy going about people's opinions not really agreeing or disagreeing and I noticed someone of their arguements in yours later one. Also I felt like during moments that other people were focused elsewhere you never went back and responded on them and perhaps because I was online a lot of and asked you I felt like I was getting a lack of understanding from the direction you were going with your actions and the cycling of information. 3. I like when people do their own research because it slwos their alignment and what they choose or choose not to talk about. Guiding only when they are choosing not to follow something or have not commented on something. I understand it is kind of your thing, but I guess I sense something is not right. 4. Honestly, I find it easier to sort you the more I see you, but you kind of pushed a read early that was kind of bubbling but not much was brewing. 1. I wouldn't call it a real sudden shift as she was way down in the neutral pile and my Everything Coro post I think should show my thought process there before she ever returned. I know you don't agree due to having only a few posts early and that's fine we can disagree about that. How could I have had that read nine hours before she came and had scummy defense? I didn't say her defense at the beginning of the day was scummy? 2. IDK I have a countless number of arguments pretty hard. Abu, how informative my own lynch would be, RE, coro so not sure if I just touched too many subjects or what? I'll have to see if I missed some posts I guess? 3. Honestly I try to be helpful because if town is completely ignorant like we were today at phase change bad things tend to happen. Go back read to me is ugly as we should be helping one another as much as possible. I know I do it from time to time but that is because I have a million posts and tend to end up repeating myself 4 and 5 times leading to what you are calling confusion in your big post (I will touch on this later as I though my "am I scum with too much info" and "would you invite me to tea" questions though coded were pretty straight forward). 4. Labs said the same thing here's hoping I make it that long. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:33 PM
#970
@Suzune-chan earlier did you say you have never played with Labs? What about Alcatraz Mafia where you were both town? |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:34 PM
#971
;-; I need to be subbed out T^T I'm so sorry everyone. I had a lot of fun. Hope to play another game here soon. @Coelestin I'm sorry again *hugs* thanks for hosting. |
Aug 12, 2017 4:34 PM
#972
lastwhisper31 said: 20 going on 21How many browser pages is this at? I want to know what I'm getting into before I get home? |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:34 PM
#973
lastwhisper31 said: How many browser pages is this at? I want to know what I'm getting into before I get home? A nice round 20. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:35 PM
#974
Nikamara said: @Coelestin I will put out my feelers and see what I can wrangle up. First suggestion is ironace;-; I need to be subbed out T^T I'm so sorry everyone. I had a lot of fun. Hope to play another game here soon. @Coelestin I'm sorry again *hugs* thanks for hosting. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:36 PM
#975
logic340 said: Honestly, I don't remember him. I would not be able to choose his meta from anything. I apologize but I don't have anything to say there. I did not recognize them, therefore, I assumed I have not played with them. I doubt they know me either.@Suzune-chan earlier did you say you have never played with Labs? What about Alcatraz Mafia where you were both town? |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:39 PM
#976
Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Honestly, I don't remember him. I would not be able to choose his meta from anything. I apologize but I don't have anything to say there. I did not recognize them, therefore, I assumed I have not played with them. I doubt they know me either.@Suzune-chan earlier did you say you have never played with Labs? What about Alcatraz Mafia where you were both town? He changes his forum set and name a lot, is probably why. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:39 PM
#977
Suzune-chan said: Labs is Lam-B aka Laby-gaga? Are you sure?logic340 said: Honestly, I don't remember him. I would not be able to choose his meta from anything. I apologize but I don't have anything to say there. I did not recognize them, therefore, I assumed I have not played with them. I doubt they know me either.@Suzune-chan earlier did you say you have never played with Labs? What about Alcatraz Mafia where you were both town? |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:47 PM
#978
logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: You will have to give examples of the bolded. I have done way more for town than a handful of the inactive players combine, and this isn't me trying to be rude or toot my own horn, it's just fact of what has transpired here. When I am scum I am most helpful to town so the fact that youscum read for me not helping town is quite interesting. Maybe I have my own interests at heart a little bit this game? logic340 said: In this case very little was on tone as you had started to bother me earlier and I thought it was strange. It was only when I was catching up today that I started to think you were off and that you were not playing for the town. The tone was just the start of it and what I started doing, but it kind of all dissolved away into what I actually saw. Which is quite a bit difference. While I do use tone quite a bit and it is the lead weapon in my inventory it is not, what I use all the time. It is actually a strain to use it every time you want it because if it was there I mentioned it at the time, if not I actually need to read back to find it because it was non-memorable. It was only that I said it earlier that I had a place to go from, but while reading a good majority of your posts that I really understood where within them that you were bothering me and it was not tone, but swingyness. Suzune-chan said: No worries. I am not scum here so we have plenty of time to work this out. logic340 said: I was kind of just letting you go before, letting you do you. But, as I was reading your posts and looking at your reactions. I realized you were probably scum, so yes, it is safe to say I am now scum reading you. I always wait to late into phases or realize when it is to late to longer act on them, my apologies. Suzune-chan said: Thank you I will let other chew on this before I respond to it. Also it deserves a proper response. Okay, since this one is more demanded, let's start here. For the love of goodness if I do not quote all the posts you want directly then ask where you can find them usually I know that. @Logic340 You are obsessed with these, honestly, and I don't go out of my way to tonally read you every time. If you were not being different, I would not even notice that something was off. Now obviously you know i noticed because I said something about your new friendship with Roz. This old you that I had picked up on your change of tone. And quite honestly, that was really all I looked into it. It was not until we started to get into today that I even noticed it. I actually asked RE what she thought of you, she said that you were fine except for your defense of Abu, but I had actually started to think that perhaps you were not fine. Early game, yes, you were different. Not remarkably. You looked over RVS votes and asked what we were getting from them, and that was not remarkable because RE1031 wanted to lynch Coro for early game reads and Coro wanted to lynch me for early game votes so I let it slide and decided it was not a discredit to you. It was later though when you were the only one talking to Roz that I started to kind of notice you. This is actually the firs time i had a, what in the world are you doing Logic moment? The question you asked to me about whether you were scum with too much info made me pause, then you asked it to someone else, then I had you clarify it and I just felt like you were all over the place again because you could not seem to be consistent about what you were hoping to achieve and every time you translated it it was kind of different. This oddness though is weird for even raving mathematician Logic who wants everyone to understand him it was just strange. Admittedly I let it drop though, because the conversation was strained enough and we were going around in circles together. I actually go the impression that Labs was someone kind of interesting to play with because of your excitement here. But when they were lackluster to me and you were all fine with it, you accused me of never suspecting them before, to which I reminded you that I had never played with them before. This was also a deviation from usual logic as you tend to like people to explain things and go through the process of working it out, when instead you, we just going to let it go and deal with it later. This created that image of handwaving Logic that I have had this game. This is where I first started to figure out that you were somewhat different. You were also too accommodating. Making iso's and stuff is normal for you. Doing it so that other people can understand it, also normal. Making giant recap posts, new but not beyond the stretch. Then it all started to fall apart to me as I was working on this. You were off all game. you were letting all kinds of weird things slide through, you liked that RE was known for alignment chats and then later when and made a few posts against her, and then sided with her Coro read later, and then agreed that you would twilight her. You leaned heavily on a Coro read that you did not have before, when I questioned it about it, Coro just happened to come on and take the brunt of it, but is was all still riddled around Suzune voting Ruu even though the reasoning was wrong, as though not being caught up up the rest of the game was AI and focusing on that read was the worst ever. Actually the more I write this, the more I think I might have been right but unable to articulate that Logic is scum. He has sacrificed the analytical side for, a more quick swinging play that goes well with whatever is happening rather then actually stating new opinions for himself. One question are you saying you seem me as scum here? edit: added spoiler tag just to cut down on length I am always surprise how you come to these conclusions when I have a tonal change rather than thinking about why they are happening I feel like you just attribute them to me being scum. I don't think I have ever received a town read from you for a tonal change? Think about how many times we have done this, how many times you have read me scum for it, and how many times I turned out to be scum. I think you will find that Alcatraz was the only time and the change was much different than what you are noting her. I think you give me too much credit and Abu not enough. I will give you a proper response to the rest later though. Well now that I knw it's like that I will let you do them on your own because just like asking for a read list I get the feeling this may be a bit forced since I asked for it. Anyway thanks for the scum read I hope it helps me avoid a night kill tonight and we can further discuss tomorrow. If your not scum then I hope they think it's something they want try an use to buddy you or down me. I will give you the same critique I once gave Whisper. You try to hard to agree with what is going on at the moment in this game. That is what I noticed to say the least. You agree with whoever is around. Not from a I hear your perspective but from a I will mirror your perspective. That is something I noticed in this game. While I will not argue that you provided more posts and pushed the game into action on more then one instance. I am merely suggesting that you are are both helping people find things while at the same time not really doing as much as you could. I have died the first night of the last two games, so I don't do things to help or hinder myself. This serves as a collection of my thoughts and where I am. It was more like you asked for a read on someone from a certain way. I did not have one but went to make one because I felt like I should try to give you one. While I was doing that realized that my initial read was wrong. 1. I know it's a dirty word but "absolutely false". Who have I agreed with when they were on line just for the sake of it? Coro? Ruu? Nikamara? yurkin? Let's be real here suzu why so fallacious all of a sudden? 2. I am slightly insulted all my reads were my own. I did 3 ISO's this phase along with the other wealth of content I provided. What more do you want from me. Burden of Prophecy much? 3. I don't worry about myself i worry about the town. Though i do it in a self serving way since i am so damn active. 4. Yes sorting that logic guy early is always a good thing. I think i have said that at least twice here this game alone. I say these things for a reason.... 1. You are allowed to disagree with me. That is completely fine. Today, you sort of springboarded the sudden shift on to Coro, while admitting that you were doing a iso for them. I asked if you were judging them solely on their opening and initial vote instead of anything beyond that. You later when on to cite RE's initial argument regardless of whether it was intentional or not. This sudden change came from a new focus, you did get fired up about it and demanded that their defensiveness was scummy. This was a read that you did not have nine hours previous and just appeared right before the phase change making it quite suspect and I thought the argument took a lot for granted as it was the one that was beginning to be suspected in the topic at that time. 2. When you think something, as you do right now, you push it hard and you believe in it. You ask other people's opinions on it and you give them points of contention. From me as a player, you seemed less critical and were more easy going about people's opinions not really agreeing or disagreeing and I noticed someone of their arguements in yours later one. Also I felt like during moments that other people were focused elsewhere you never went back and responded on them and perhaps because I was online a lot of and asked you I felt like I was getting a lack of understanding from the direction you were going with your actions and the cycling of information. 3. I like when people do their own research because it slwos their alignment and what they choose or choose not to talk about. Guiding only when they are choosing not to follow something or have not commented on something. I understand it is kind of your thing, but I guess I sense something is not right. 4. Honestly, I find it easier to sort you the more I see you, but you kind of pushed a read early that was kind of bubbling but not much was brewing. 1. I wouldn't call it a real sudden shift as she was way down in the neutral pile and my Everything Coro post I think should show my thought process there before she ever returned. I know you don't agree due to having only a few posts early and that's fine we can disagree about that. How could I have had that read nine hours before she came and had scummy defense? I didn't say her defense at the beginning of the day was scummy? 2. IDK I have a countless number of arguments pretty hard. Abu, how informative my own lynch would be, RE, coro so not sure if I just touched too many subjects or what? I'll have to see if I missed some posts I guess? 3. Honestly I try to be helpful because if town is completely ignorant like we were today at phase change bad things tend to happen. Go back read to me is ugly as we should be helping one another as much as possible. I know I do it from time to time but that is because I have a million posts and tend to end up repeating myself 4 and 5 times leading to what you are calling confusion in your big post (I will touch on this later as I though my "am I scum with too much info" and "would you invite me to tea" questions though coded were pretty straight forward). 4. Labs said the same thing here's hoping I make it that long. Little quote text boxes on mal are too tiny... 1. Since there were no new posts from Coro until you had that moment. It was a read you could have had earlier since your Coro catch up post covered just the first four pages and you were well into your Coro should be lynched long before Coro arrived. I recall that I was catching up during the point when Coro was returning. 2.Generally your direction was sporadic. 3. You know I think this so it is not wildly new, but you help players you bias them. I am a strong believer in this and have seen many lynches that were strong get away because the people they helped couldn't lynch them because they helped. I myself try to tone done my desire to teach and play mid game by almost helping so many times. When I am the mafia mom I feel like it is easier to teach because no one has to see I am doing it, but I would not want how someone feels about another to be affected mid game. I want them to come to decisions on their own. It follows that idea that Lucian told me long ago "You can't make people play the way you want them to." I understood the tea one and gave you a straightforward answer about where I stood on you at that moment. The other one, "Are you scum with too much info" was kind of a difficult one for me to answer because typically I should not be able to tell something like that. 4. The sum of your actions makes more sense when you do not look at it right away. It is how I determined in past games that you were scummy because I could see a bigger picture. 5. You also did one of those little scum is talking to Suzune things. Jack always backs me when he is scum, never does anything suspect but fights my battles. You did that a few times today, let me take the criticism for something I did and defended it for me. This rings all kinds of concerning bells for me. As it is a coin flip for me whether I will welcome it and allow you to pocket me for a while or I will panic and call you scum. But I heard the bell ringing and paused once at least, and commented on it once. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:48 PM
#979
logic340 said: Haha, I had no idea. Then yes, I still expect better from Lamy~Suzune-chan said: Labs is Lam-B aka Laby-gaga? Are you sure?logic340 said: @Suzune-chan earlier did you say you have never played with Labs? What about Alcatraz Mafia where you were both town? |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:55 PM
#980
I'm totally third wheeling here. |
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Aug 12, 2017 4:59 PM
#981
RE1031 said: You may totally interject if you like. I would not judge you for it. Or comment on it.I'm totally third wheeling here. |
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Aug 12, 2017 5:08 PM
#982
logic/Suzune: Probably not aligned. Don't think logic is scum anymore. Suzune, a little iffy. But probably not mafia. I am willing to do an ISO (or more like, just quote everything) on lastwhisper. He has maybe the same amount of posts as yurkin but left me with a very different impression from what I remember. |
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Aug 12, 2017 5:24 PM
#983
I'm on mobile expect typos, grammatical errors, and completely understand illegible sentences. @Suzune I will try to get to your larger posts tonight but likely tomorrow morning from my work computer. |
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Aug 12, 2017 5:55 PM
#984
lastwhisper31 said: This would be one of those things to respond to prior to reading the rest of the thread, but since I've read the thread, during my down time at work, I cant go into this pretending to be blind. 11/10 ice breaker if I do say so my self, but you wont be getting any pockets from me (they have holes in them). lastwhisper31 said: Guess theres no time for an rvs vote :( lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. Seems kinda counter productive to the town mindset, to think a guy/girl with 50/100 games off site would make a mistake as fatal as this, and I cant really tell what you were thinking when you wrote this post, I mean I was new to mafia games in general when I joined this club, and even I didnt make a mistake like this (I did throw a game by accident, welp), so why was ur first assumption that it was a mistake and he must be scum, when other possibilities existed, which by how quickly you posted, doesnt really seem like you looked into them. lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: I read while working, I know the gist of some posts. Im re reading at the moment.lastwhisper31 said: Guess theres no time for an rvs vote :( Any strong reads? Since you read through thread already. lastwhisper31 said: AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. God these are hard to respond to when you are biased already to the actual clarification. But at least Abu is taking initiative lastwhisper31 said: RVS vote, then acknowledges the post, and breaks the ice with a joke. So did you believe he was mafia at this point, or were doubting it? lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: But but you jumped on the train first, and if you thought that way, its not weird for someone else to also think as you. and this is more meta*, but its not weird for abu to sheep his opinions off the opinion of another, and he does clarify that it could be an ignorant townie, and he chooses to go with the other option.AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? Edit: Spelling lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Very headstrong on the only possibility being that he must be mafiaAbuHumaid said: Ruu said: what? I was stating a possibilityAbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? how can that be a possibility? One of the main rules of mafia is that the mafia has their own private club. How could town get access to it? makes no sense... lastwhisper31 said: Suzune-chan said: +1, and if mafia didnt already think about this, then they now know. Ruu said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. we could do that but better to start with a mafia lynch than a mislynch right? also what if the roleblocker ends up rb the vig? I don't want that possibility to happen. lastwhisper31 said: +1 for being the first person to question it. lastwhisper31 said: Suzune-chan said: Didnt someone also state that MAL, in terms of mafia skills as a whole are lacking? Not saying it was you, then I guess we are really below the threshold.RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? lastwhisper31 said: yurkin said: BBCode is pretty universal among forums, maybe he was hoping someone would notice this little hint.roz1roz said: Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? lastwhisper31 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you. lastwhisper31 said: Why you keep quoting rvs votes? and how could you possibly ignore the most important post at the time, with not one word? or did i miss it? lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: Ruu said: RE1031 said: yurkin said: abu's #50 According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though. "50 to 100 games" You're right. Okay this is weird. How does someone make this kind of mistake? there is no jester in the game so it can't be on purpose. Unless... it's a gambit. Hello again ladies and gentelman. Thanks for creating material for analysis. I actually feel bad for playing newbie card to create (obvious) bait. Honestly speaking I should break the discussion around the post quoted above, cause later on it could go dangerous for me and scum wouldn't take a bait anymore afterwards anyway. I didn't. Why? Well, I actualy was surprised that Suzune-chan took the bait. I was even more surprised they actualy pushed it even after noticing there is something wrong here. I literaly wanted to see 2-3 more posts from them. Now as to analysis - mafia tendency would be either hardly push a misslynch with any arguments they can find OR defend to get town cred (since they obviously knew that this is false one). Sk can't really be detected here, as they didn't know if I'm mafia or not, so they would look simlar to a town. Wich player would be more likely to play one of this ways? Wich is more agresive in style and wich is more likely to build town cred to build "quite wolf". I will hide behind a newbie card here and say that you know each other better then I do. On the other side, you gave me material for analysis. Thanks for taking a bait. brootal lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: I mean its not like hes expecting you to pocket him? logic340 said: RE1031 said: Let's say it is a slip lets not waste the day on it. We can still search for their buddies. Not everyone is going to take the side of the slip. Ruu said: Now I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. Probably, I always forget to check club invites and there's no notification for it. This is such a weird slip up though... We could lynch them today, or we could save him for the vig shot. I think either way works. I am on the opposite side, I think it's a bait. bait? that's weird. I mean if it is, is a very anti-town aproach cause now they are waisting our time and you can't get a lot from it because town and mafia would vote them for the same reasons so they can't be blame for it. lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- Gunna place my vote on Ruu for now, vote: Ruu Very forceful with her reasoning for voting the new guy, also its good to note that I think she was the first one to bring him the idea that this couldnt possibly be a bait. Very telling. Gunna continue rereading. lastwhisper31 said: Suzune-chan said: +1, so eager, and so jumpyRuu said: Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: I understand your eager for me to read the post on yurkin, just to clarify. Did you list them all, or some? Cause if your being nitpicky, then that feels more scummy, as your telling people what to look at, I will def look at his posts on my own, and will give you my conclusion when im finished. Everytime I read a page I jump to the last page, which is why Im answering posts from two different spots.yurkin said: roz1roz said: the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...Hi guys. Can someone help me and tell how to access maf chat? 1. NAI RVS vote, there will be something telling about this but it isn't reveling itself now. 2. NAI really doesn't help us catch scum. 3. I liked this too but that in itself isn't enough to say it comes from town. yurkin said: logic340 said: So this is not a mafia play in my opinion but I could be TPR motivated. @roz1roz I change what I said I like you for uninformed party. Oh, such follow up, after at first you too easily said hes post regarding the bait's purpose is comming from town. edit: typo 1. Calling logic out for what exactly? This is a busy post and nothing else as she doesn't follow up. 2. NAI yurkin said: @suzune-chan #146 "they were really on the fence during the exchange and came off as more confussed and did not respond directly really based on positioning" -were exactly was i confussed? and on the fence suzune? 1. So while yurking was not confused, I would say that her position during the whole thing could be termed fence sitty considering that her only contribution to it was saying that it wasn't likely a gambit due to reading the sign-up thread and calling logic out for who knows what? lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Dude im back reading, what I find interesting is up to me, all I did was point out that ur immediate posts were both questions on RVS posts. RE1031 said: lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE @lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them. And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize. lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Speak for urself, in regards to what it means about his alignment, I dont have a definite answer on that, but as someone who noticed his post of 50/100 games under his belt, my first thought would not have been, oops he slipped.logic340 said: I like you for town this was clearly obvious and I am curious why RE/Ruu/suzune/abu didn't bring up that possibility. I think most surprising for me is RE and Suzune, this is definitely something that would get Ruu's interest and this is kind of expected from Abu. Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree). lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Questionable, it def pulled people from up under their rocks. I mean it gave me some impressions of you and abu, and Suzune(kinda), and RE, and it started many tops and accusations. Unless your assuming we must see you as town, and that is your reasoning for stating it as anti town.ugh I get overly excited when I think I found scum and then this kind of mistakes get me lynch smh well I still got time to prove you guys wrong but for now unvote I need to rethink this... but let's all agree that this is a whole new level of anti-town play -_- Do I think it was anti town? no Do I think it was fruitless? no lastwhisper31 said: Nikamara said: So roz is scum, and everyone else that voted him? and maybe its just me, but I feel as it is counter intuitive to state "your plans" as then mafia will just avoid them, or play the "wifom" game.I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: logic340 said: Nikamara said: Huh? We have 48 hours to discuss which we haven't even started on yet. Why would this be the list of people to check if you die tonight?I don't know anyone here, so of course I'm not familiar with your play styles but so far My suspect list looks like this (ordered from most suspicious to least): 1. rozlroz 2. Abu 3. RE1031 4. Suzune-chan for now I'll vote vote: rozlroz If I die tonight, you know where to look ^ Why is Roz #1 and I am nowhere on the list? Also why is everyone that responded to Roz's bait on the list (except Ruu)? That seems to be a little bit off cause if Roz is scum then it means one of them is their teammate? That is actually something worth noting. Why not Ruu? hmm didnt even notice to you guys pointed it out, I see no need to ask again because this is a more direct question and ill probably find the answer as I read. lastwhisper31 said: Togs said: I agree. If I were to guess how each alignment would be most likely to approach that situation in a vacuum, I would say town would more likely to snap-believe it, whereas scum would see through the fake newbiness right away. They would be more wary of pushing that player because they would realize something's up. That is why Abu looks more innocent to me, because his reaction seemed genuine, whereas Ruu looks more suspicious because she used the situation to try and push a case on someone else. Normally yes, but I think back to this: Kiznaiver End Game Post by Ruu Edit: Fixed quote tag lastwhisper31 said: coromandel said: if anything its good to note, Ruu did this once before, and she was scumroz1roz said: Ruu said: I have to go for a bit. Aaaaand that post is scummy. We are not your mother. We don't need to know where and when you go. Especialy that you didn't post for 15 minutes, so I would just assume you went away. Scum likes to say they are off, when they are, so noone will try to interact with them in that time and be hence safe from possible wagons on them. Tho, yea... That shouldn't be AI and if it is, then a VERY bad argument at least, tho I like pointing that one out. It shouldn't be AI, but you still find it scummy enough to point it out. How do you feel about RVS, or voting in general? lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: I think the slight smiley face at the end clearly shows that Coro didnt believe it was a slip, but thats just meShit. coro's response is scummy as hell. Why does she vote suzune while simultaneously questioning which mafia role roz is? vote: coromandel @coromandel What was your initial reaction towards roz's "slip"? Right now, I can't tell if you believed it to be a slip or suspected it as bait. lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: I find it weird that you find lurking to be ok, but think because someone posted that she would be back in a bit is scummy. and I believe someone else in this game also stated they'd be back in a bit, and you didnt bite them back for it. You seem to like making sarcastic jokes at the end of some of your posts, probably nai, but we will see.RE1031 said: Here's another list: RE - default Ruu - mafia don't flail. Ruu is flailing (sorry Ruu). Suzune - genuinely sounded like she believed it to be a newbie slip Abu - neutral, response is actually a little scummy, but I know his playstyle is pretty different from most (time will tell, essentially) yurkin - also neutral. skeptical of roz's bait, but her response is analytical and is pretty much NAI logic - I find his exchange with roz amusing - namely the failed pocket attempt, if there was one. Also post #93 is interesting - if he's so convinced roz is baiting, why make this post? coro - surprisingly has not taken any strong stance on anyone yet. Response to roz says a lot - I am not sensing she took his 'slip' seriously despite her saying otherwise. towniest reaction -> scummiest reaction I feel ofended by not being there after the bait I did early on. Oh yea, I'm still lurking around and reading your posts. Big brother is always watching you. And by big brother I didn't mean titan ._. Yea... obviously. lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Spicy, I likeRuu said: RE1031 said: Ruu said: @logic340 well I read RE again. Before the "bait" his post are NAI. After the famous post I'm not a fan of him. He agrees with me but doesn't follow up his belief with a vote. If he is scum, not jumping on that train is a good move, specially if he knows roz is town (as of right now I'm incline to read roz as a VT - I'm having grrr - flashbacks). He kept planting doubts but not choosing to follow up their suspicions. I get why you would vote for him (if I get you reasons correctly) but your move doesn't tell me much about your alignment or your relation with RE. At least for now. So let me get this straight. Abu is scum for jumping on the train too quickly. I'm scummy for not. ??? I pressure Abu for his words not because of his vote. About roz possibly being a confused townie. #44 suggests otherwise. edit: Nvm :( lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Idk, that post 44, clearly states otherwiseRE1031 said: Ruu said: AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? @Ruu This is you not scum reading Abu for his vote? How many times do I need to explain this? My reason for thinking Abu was his comments about the possibility of being a confused townie. He sheeping my vote is a bonus but it wasn't the main reason of my scum read. It made sense to me atm that Abu would jump on the train if they were buddies. That last part was meta but like I said before NOT THE MAIN REASON why I said "I found the other scum" lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Maybe I want to have them personally addressed again? Nothing wrong with that@Suzune-chan Please come at these people who are responding before reading the entire thread - now that is a time waster when they are treating things as if they haven't already been addressed. lastwhisper31 said: Logic is like a puppy with a knew owner lol. lastwhisper31 said: Labs said: Also lets not forget this post: The Morning After Post #227Ruu said: logic340 said: So this is not a mafia play in my opinion but I could be TPR motivated. @roz1roz I change what I said I like you for uninformed party. why would tpr put themselves in the spotlight? I would think they would try to go unnoticed? Going un-noticed gets you noticed. Also last game I was in TPR seemed to love the spotlight.... it just didn't work as they wanted it to. P.S he was not the guardian angel. lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: fair points, but as someone who has seen Abu's meta, I find this unlikelySure, I will. That is actualy rather meh entrance to the thread. Being helpful to get some town-cred and some more posts going, to not seem lurking? Hmm... scummy, scummy. AbuHumaid said: So who's scum? AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. Theory: You know that it was a townie "mistake" and set up yourself to be able to do "I told you he was townie". Typical for scum whiteknighting a town member to get a "defender" credit later on. Then you just continue to push me, cause you do want this misslynch to happen. I see this post as generic scum play tbh. And you will have to do something to convince me your not. It's unnatural and you do it specialy to show that you thought it might be townie. Just to accuse other pushers of this wagon afterwards. AbuHumaid said: Vote change: roz1roz Opionion above ^ AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: what? I was stating a possibilityAbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? This "what?" is actualy a quite often mafia play who tries to backtrack from own words when it gets dangerous. I know few people who does it quite often as scum. Probably even more than few. Actualy the whole post is a very bad looking backtrack when someone acussed you. AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: Isn't he/she a newbie? it's possible that they didn't know that, but as i said i don't think so.AbuHumaid said: Ruu said: what? I was stating a possibilityAbuHumaid said: Ruu said: it could be an ignorant townie mistake but i don't think soNow I feel bad... did we just caught mafia because of a newbie's mistake. I don't want to scare him away.. but well. vote change: roz1roz sorry man. But that's how the game works. You need to dm the host if you have questions. I found the second mafia guys. Jumping on the train to not look suspicious. Where is everyone btw? how can that be a possibility? One of the main rules of mafia is that the mafia has their own private club. How could town get access to it? makes no sense... I receive this post as it contains ask for support from other mafia. Your also back to position of stating posibility that townie thought they can access maf chat. Wich is bad, cause I don't see a point in defending this position if you are voting against it. To sum up: I believe this is a wolf and I'm placing a vote here. Backtracks, trying to place themself, using generic wolf schemes. I can explain it more exactly for someone if you don't understand any of parts here. Vote: AbuHumaid lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: I was online cause I was reading posts while being the garbage man for the day at my job...logic340 said: RE1031 said: OoG i am not going to speculate on activity and why or why not someone has posted to this point. It's actually pretty annoying so many people haven't posted yet. I doubt they are scum - scum tend to be more active - but I need more content. Whisper - work Labs - Timezone and it's the weekend don't expect a post from him. Togs - 1 post then gone aa-done - the same + timezones It's all NAI Yeah, and whisper is online now... I think I'm going to call Togs one post man... lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: SiIs logic always pocketing, overactive guy who asks too many questions? lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: again this is abu we are talking about, and its 11 pages in one day, Im still on page 8. After almost 4 hours of reading...logic340 said: Ruu said: What is your scum read on Abu I am neutral slight town, I wont let a bs lynch go through on him because he is LHF so explain your read well for me. Okay I will place my vote now: vote: yurkin 1) I don't like their neutral involvement in the Roz's situation (the bait and everything that came from it) 2)I want to put some pressure on them. I'm scum reading Yurkin and Abu atm. I will go for yurkin right now because I want to see their reaction and because Abu already has a train on them iirc and I prefer to participate in a counter-train to get some info. I agree with Roz's read on Abu and I still find them neutral leaning scum more than town.My view might change depending on their defense. LHF means easy lynch? If so let me explain why I'm still not convince he could be leaning town... 1) He talks about the possibility of Roz being a "confused townie" but doesn't try to explore that route (in my case I was completely sold on the idea of Roz being mafia , that's why I didn't persuit either and why I pressure him because of it). 2) When I called him out for it he just kept saying he saw it as a possibility but again doesn't do much to work on that theory. 3) He first posted about the "confused townie" and then write another post voting for them. I saw this as scum jumping on the train to not look suspicious but it's also a good way to push a mislynch and have a safe net (their previous post) when Roz flips town. Scum always states both possibilities so they don't get persecuted after the outcome. Like "well I thought, and even talk about, Roz being possible a townie". 4) When Suzu talked about him with me he just made a fluff comment but didn't try to angage in a conversation that could help us get a read on him. Why is that? It was the perfect moment to explain his reasoning better and even get us to lean town with him. 5) He says the game is going to fast; stays in the shadows without trying to create conversation. It was fast for me too but I try to read at my own pace and make questions, reads... he is just posting fluff or nothing at all...like his #271 And the fact that he is an easy lynch is the reason I'm going for yurkin first btw. lastwhisper31 said: Yep, and honestly Im not gunna focus on him either for now, I think time is spent better else where lastwhisper31 said: good luck with that lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ya and I know you hate RVS, but that doesnt give you the right to push on other peoples RVS votes as if they are even relatively serious, thats how I see it.lastwhisper31 said: Why you keep quoting rvs votes? and how could you possibly ignore the most important post at the time, with not one word? or did i miss it lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Dude im back reading, what I find interesting is up to me, all I did was point out that ur immediate posts were both questions on RVS posts. RE1031 said: @RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE @lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them? And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize. Did he answer my first question? I guess I could call it that. Did he answer my second question? No. Did he answer my third question? No. So now can you answer the questions I asked instead of getting all emotional? Thank you. Guess ill go back to this. 1. Did I say do nothing? IMO all these interactions did was cause the accused to state they were just RVS, so ya pretty much nothing. 2. Your right, catching up in my readings would be better, but your two posts caught me eye so I made a comment on them, especially cause you know u did come in later, and there were more "important" posts as you say it, at the time of you first entering this game. But I guess the same could be said for me, because honestly am I getting anything out of this? Not really lol 3. You see RE as scum, because one of his first posts was rvs? noted lastwhisper31 said: lmao, sorry this was cute. lastwhisper31 said: Can we really breakdown Ruu's early thoughts onto Roz as just excitement? But then again, would mafia go for such an ez target? Meh lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok scum read maybe wasnt the right word, maybe that "noted" just triggers me :/lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Dude im back reading, what I find interesting is up to me, all I did was point out that ur immediate posts were both questions on RVS posts. RE1031 said: @RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.hm....no reasons for RVS....noted. ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE @lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them? And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize. Did he answer my first question? I guess I could call it that. Did he answer my second question? No. Did he answer my third question? No. So now can you answer the questions I asked instead of getting all emotional? Thank you. Guess ill go back to this. 1. Did I say do nothing? IMO all these interactions did was cause the accused to state they were just RVS, so ya pretty much nothing. 2. Your right, catching up in my readings would be better, but your two posts caught me eye so I made a comment on them, especially cause you know u did come in later, and there were more "important" posts as you say it, at the time of you first entering this game. But I guess the same could be said for me, because honestly am I getting anything out of this? Not really lol 3. You see RE as scum, because one of his first posts was rvs? noted 1. No but you didn't say what i should be doing if not picking at things and noting interesting meta reads. 2. I posted as i caught up you are on page 8 and i don't remember you touching on my defense of roz while many others suspected him and voted him (I think 6 in total). 3. You still haven't asked me what I noted in that post. You assume i scum read her for that but my vote came on page 3 with reasons that had nothing to do with what i noted. RE knows what it is. Go back and follow my interactions with RE. logic340 said: Also why would a newbie ask the people they are supposed to be hiding from where the scum chat is? vote: RE1031 This bait might have been way better than he imagined. @ruu answer the top please edit added ruu P.S The noted was a joke on you because you put it after reading his RVS. Clearly I needed to state it because u didnt get that. lastwhisper31 said: RE1031 said: Sorry thats pretty funny, I choked on my coffee, now are you following along with Rez's tells, or are you coming up with your own? I understand you dont want to give abu the benefit of the doubt, and im not really pocketing him, I just dont really use the same scum tells with Abu as a I would everyone else.@logic340 Your defense of Abu felt weak and almost too solid despite Abu having posted rather little. While I do find Abu scummy, your defense seems to be coming from scum defending town. lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic is ok with not voting someone because someone else he doesnt like is voting him, but stated in another game, that its scummy because someone doesnt want to be town blocked with someone they see as scummy.lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic thinks ur scum because u dont like being town blocked with someone you think is suspicious, but is ok going against a vote because someone he wants to vote is being voted but someone he doesnt like, not saying thats the only reason, but its still somthing to note.logic340 said: After reading RE's latest posts i am not comfortable voting along side her. If she is voting coro today i will not be. More votes on yurkin please!! Okay I'm confused. You are willing to vote RE/coro but you don't like voting along side RE so that means you won't vote coro? So if one flips town then the other is mafia or will you consider a t/t ? Edit: refering to info from another game, so people dont think im talking out of my ass. Can you rephrased this? I seriously don't understand your point. I was trying to understand logic's reasoning and asking for some pre-flip association to get a better understanding. lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Im saying, they sound the same, I guess its all a matter of my opinion, but ya I guess lets drop this, I dont think I can explain it well enough.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Cant really quote an on going game, so I dont want to go into to much detail, its just something I noticed between this game, and the discord mafia game.lastwhisper31 said: What town block would you be referring to here?Ruu said: Logic thinks ur scum because u dont like being town blocked with someone you think is suspicious, but is ok going against a vote because someone he wants to vote is being voted but someone he doesnt like, not saying thats the only reason, but its still somthing to note.logic340 said: After reading RE's latest posts i am not comfortable voting along side her. If she is voting coro today i will not be. More votes on yurkin please!! Okay I'm confused. You are willing to vote RE/coro but you don't like voting along side RE so that means you won't vote coro? So if one flips town then the other is mafia or will you consider a t/t ? Edit: refering to info from another game, so people dont think im talking out of my ass. This post confuses me. Edit:words I will leave it be since it's about an ongoing game. I have no town block here tho? Edit: you can you at the above post if that helps. lastwhisper31 said: lastwhisper31 said: Two peas of the same pod imo.Ruu said: lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic thinks ur scum because u dont like being town blocked with someone you think is suspicious, but is ok going against a vote because someone he wants to vote is being voted but someone he doesnt like, not saying thats the only reason, but its still somthing to note.logic340 said: After reading RE's latest posts i am not comfortable voting along side her. If she is voting coro today i will not be. More votes on yurkin please!! Okay I'm confused. You are willing to vote RE/coro but you don't like voting along side RE so that means you won't vote coro? So if one flips town then the other is mafia or will you consider a t/t ? Edit: refering to info from another game, so people dont think im talking out of my ass. Can you rephrased this? I seriously don't understand your point. I was trying to understand logic's reasoning and asking for some pre-flip association to get a better understanding. lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok, maybe i mis understood ur post, ill drop this.lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic is ok with not voting someone because someone else he doesnt like is voting him, but stated in another game, that its scummy because someone doesnt want to be town blocked with someone they see as scummy.lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Logic thinks ur scum because u dont like being town blocked with someone you think is suspicious, but is ok going against a vote because someone he wants to vote is being voted but someone he doesnt like, not saying thats the only reason, but its still somthing to note.logic340 said: After reading RE's latest posts i am not comfortable voting along side her. If she is voting coro today i will not be. More votes on yurkin please!! Okay I'm confused. You are willing to vote RE/coro but you don't like voting along side RE so that means you won't vote coro? So if one flips town then the other is mafia or will you consider a t/t ? Edit: refering to info from another game, so people dont think im talking out of my ass. Can you rephrased this? I seriously don't understand your point. I was trying to understand logic's reasoning and asking for some pre-flip association to get a better understanding. You should probably stop right now before you go too far. lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: So do you think she is scum, if you wont vote with her, then why not vote for her? and I clearly understood the reasoning for RE's RVS vote, your comment just seemed so forced. Were you trying to make a case on her rvs vote? am I scum? is she scum trying to make me scum? I dont understand the point of questioning that rvs vote. and one of your answers to that is self meta? you say you always do this, but honestly I cant recall of this is true or not, but that doesnt change the fact that i still feel like your comment towards his rvs was pointless. I mean im not defending RE, I still think hes a valid lynch, mostly cause of that "Feels so faked, just lynch me" post@lastwhisper31 I still don't know what you are thinking or what you meant to get out of that? Were you saying i am scum here for doing? Does it make me more likely town? Why bring it up if neither? Seems to have a negative connotation to it. Similar to how you viewed me poking around in RVS though you know i am known for it. Also i will reveal what is up with RE. She always gives reasons for her RVS vote Last game i played with her she gave reasons i quoted the post said reasons check This time there was no reason so i quoted it and said noted so she would know that i picked up on that slight meta change. lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: Understandable, but werent your previously against a "no Lynch" because theres no cop??? Abu actualy destroyed my plan of voting myself to get 3 vs 3 draw to get additional 24h of disscussion. Soooo... my vote still stays on you, cause you destroyed your opportunity to move it out from you, lmao. How is additional 24h to get 1 vs 1 showdown going is considered a no lynch? I dont understand, enlighten me? lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: is this a typo? because I dont believe there is a cop, rez stated it already, twice actually lol.roz1roz said: logic340 said: roz1roz said: I mean you can always vote no lynch with me if that is what we need to happen. Abu actualy destroyed my plan of voting myself to get 3 vs 3 draw to get additional 24h of disscussion. Soooo... my vote still stays on you, cause you destroyed your opportunity to move it out from you, lmao. I will actually petition @Togs to vote that way since he isn't caught up. @Abu as well. Uhm, and what would no-lynch give? Bonus night kill for mafia and nk? No thanks. We don't have a cop anyway in this setup I am down to lynch for scum not info lastwhisper31 said: lastwhisper31 said: ok so you answered my question in #669roz1roz said: lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: Understandable, but werent your previously against a "no Lynch" because theres no cop??? Abu actualy destroyed my plan of voting myself to get 3 vs 3 draw to get additional 24h of disscussion. Soooo... my vote still stays on you, cause you destroyed your opportunity to move it out from you, lmao. How is additional 24h to get 1 vs 1 showdown going is considered a no lynch? I dont understand, enlighten me? lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ohh, ok so now I understand Rez, completely forgot that was a thing. Im def ok with that also.roz1roz said: logic340 said: roz1roz said: 1 vs. 1 why not just vote yurkin now since that is the lynch you would be setting up?lastwhisper31 said: roz1roz said: Understandable, but werent your previously against a "no Lynch" because theres no cop??? Abu actualy destroyed my plan of voting myself to get 3 vs 3 draw to get additional 24h of disscussion. Soooo... my vote still stays on you, cause you destroyed your opportunity to move it out from you, lmao. How is additional 24h to get 1 vs 1 showdown going is considered a no lynch? > 24h more of discussion > "You can either chose to lynch either of them, none or both" Also literaly giving them (and me) a fair trial where you can judge and decide. Why wouldn't I do that? lastwhisper31 said: Can anyone post a vote count so I have an idea of where we are at, currently at work. lastwhisper31 said: unvote keeping my vote null for now. My phone is about to die, and I don't want to ruin w/e u guys have planned. lastwhisper31 said: @Logic I don't want to pocket you as town, but if possible can u sum up what happened. And maybe give me the numbers of all the important posts. All I know is that it's twilight with yurkin and Ruu? I'm on my break at work lastwhisper31 said: Suzune-chan said: I def will, sorrylastwhisper31 said: @Logic I don't want to pocket you as town, but if possible can u sum up what happened. And maybe give me the numbers of all the important posts. All I know is that it's twilight with yurkin and Ruu? I'm on my break at work lastwhisper31 said: How many browser pages is this at? I want to know what I'm getting into before I get home? A lot more than I expected (and not as scummy as I would have expected, either). I don't have much to say but... @lastwhisper31 When you get the chance, I need you to talk about these people: Ruu, coro, me, and logic. Ruu is pretty much confirmed town, and we are never lynching her. You made a small comment on coro's question - said that you thought she didn't take the slip seriously. But she says she did. Now why haven't you pursued that? I want you to expand your case on me. I don't know if it's because your busy that you haven't, or if you simply don't have one. You pointed out some of logic's behavior but didn't really comment on his alignment. Do you think he is town? |
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Aug 12, 2017 6:22 PM
#985
Also, I am most likely going to miss the phase change tomorrow. I may not even be able to post within 4 hours of it - I'll be working and probably shouldn't be checking my phone. I doubt I'll move my vote. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Aug 12, 2017 6:31 PM
#986
Ping me if you need me, I have tons of back reading to do. @re1031, ill get to ur questions when I get a chance. One conclusion that I came to at work, was that I wasnt really gunna vote Ruu, last time she played that heavy emotions game she was town, and I pulled my vote because I dont like my vote controlling 50/50 lynches like I feel this one on day 1. Edti: Expecially when I wasnt able to read anything prior to the phase change or even be there for it. |
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Aug 12, 2017 6:53 PM
#987
Me said: RVS vote, then acknowledges the post, and breaks the ice with a joke. So did you believe he was mafia at this point, or were doubting it? I thought it really was a slip. I don't know why some people were saying this was obviously bait, how did you know that roz has played up to 100 mafia games? The Main question wasnt, "Is this really a slip", but the notion that still stands to be conceived is, Is he town searching for mafia, or is he tpr/mafia because he did state in the pre game he had multitudes of experience, just not on this particular site.? lastwhisper31 said: coromandel said: if anything its good to note, Ruu did this once before, and she was scumroz1roz said: Ruu said: I have to go for a bit. Aaaaand that post is scummy. We are not your mother. We don't need to know where and when you go. Especialy that you didn't post for 15 minutes, so I would just assume you went away. Scum likes to say they are off, when they are, so noone will try to interact with them in that time and be hence safe from possible wagons on them. Tho, yea... That shouldn't be AI and if it is, then a VERY bad argument at least, tho I like pointing that one out. It shouldn't be AI, but you still find it scummy enough to point it out. How do you feel about RVS, or voting in general? In which game? Kiznaiverlogic340 said: @coromandel - Why is it you have left no impression on me so far? If someone wanted to lynch you I would say go ahead. Because I only made a couple of posts yesterday. Since when is inactivity alignment-indicative? @coromandel Edit: added words |
_WispAug 12, 2017 6:59 PM
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 12, 2017 7:00 PM
#988
coromandel said: lastwhisper31 said: [/spoiler]RVS vote, then acknowledges the post, and breaks the ice with a joke. So did you believe he was mafia at this point, or were doubting it? I thought it really was a slip. I don't know why some people were saying this was obviously bait, how did you know that roz has played up to 100 mafia games? lastwhisper31 said: coromandel said: roz1roz said: Ruu said: I have to go for a bit. Aaaaand that post is scummy. We are not your mother. We don't need to know where and when you go. Especialy that you didn't post for 15 minutes, so I would just assume you went away. Scum likes to say they are off, when they are, so noone will try to interact with them in that time and be hence safe from possible wagons on them. Tho, yea... That shouldn't be AI and if it is, then a VERY bad argument at least, tho I like pointing that one out. It shouldn't be AI, but you still find it scummy enough to point it out. How do you feel about RVS, or voting in general? In which game? logic340 said: @coromandel - Why is it you have left no impression on me so far? If someone wanted to lynch you I would say go ahead. Because I only made a couple of posts yesterday. Since when is inactivity alignment-indicative? logic340 said: coromandel said: Well when i collected all your posts and looked at them they did leave an impression and not a good one. It has nothing to do with activity.logic340 said: @coromandel - Why is it you have left no impression on me so far? If someone wanted to lynch you I would say go ahead. Because I only made a couple of posts yesterday. Since when is inactivity alignment-indicative? Did you clarify on this, I guess ill get to if you did. |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:02 PM
#989
RE1031 said: Nikamara said: logic340 said: roz1roz said: logic340 said: Remind me to come back to post #484 later. @logic340 - go back to post #484 Edit: changed "lost" to "post" Nikamara said: How did you make this determination? Why is keeping your vote in one place revealing of any kind of information or are you expecting others to do the work here? RE1031 said: Nikamara said: felt like you did a lot of deflecting like asking others why they felt suspicious of you vs. explaining why you aren't suspicious. this kind of defensive behaviour makes me suspicious of you. as for roz, he claimed his first post was bait for analysis, but never did any analysis until people called him out. suzune seems open to debate, trying to weigh the two sides of every issue. it gave me a better impression of her. EDIT: changed "his out" to "him out" I'm not sure what you mean by the bold... Are you saying I did one but not the other? Because I've definitely done both. And what do you mean by deflecting? I'd say I am defensive - but as town. Reads on myself are some of the most telling since my own alignment is the one I'm most sure of. Scum have targeted me in the past, so I'm not going to sit back and let them get away with a read they can't back up. I agree about roz, but he made a rather good post about Abu. his post on abu is good, but it changes nothing for me. I'll keep my vote on him no matter what this phase because I think we'll gather the most information from his lynch depending on how he flips. furthermore, it could have just been him making an easy case to seem like a productive townie and then scram. Or, throw his scum bro under the bus to win town cred. Is there any side other than scum that you can attribute this to? Humor me lets say he flips town then what you think we will have gained from this? Nikamara said: different GM on the site I've been playing on have different rules on voting some say only one change is allowed others no change and some change as much as you like. I just asked to be sure. Now who is trying to pocket who? It would be you that pulled me up on this. I like that you are staying on top and not shying away. The bolded were my thoughts when I saw this post but I kept them to myself because I didn't want to disturb the natural flow of things or pepper a newer player with a ton of questions as they caught up. Also I noted that something I said there is something I generally look for scum to do with newer players (but push harder). So I wanted to wait and see if anyone would jump. Not sure if that is telling or not for other players but time will tell. I think 486 quoted above explains some of it but I would like answers to this regardless. @Nikamara can you answer the questions in the bolded. if roz flips town you can deduce who swept in for an easy lynch, but were wishy washy about it because they know he'd flip scum. if he flips scum, you can look at who defended him. I just feel that so far much of the discussion has been centered around him one way or another. to get to the bottom of things, lynching him this phase makes the most sense to me. This reasoning is way too "either or" for me. And I don't know how you can still think that his bait was a slip. Isn't what you're doing also going after an easy lynch? It doesnt necessarily have to be a slip, but like I stated above, you cant really rule out that he may possibly be scum or tpr, leaning more towards possible tpr though. |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:09 PM
#990
logic340 said: But I dont think Coro was refering to Suzunes attack on Ruu, but her vote on Rez.@coromandel What I was getting at here: Suzune said what Ruu did was "throwing away the rest of the day", but Suzune herself did the exact same with her vote for roz! now i think it is you who is misunderstanding. suzune was not scum reading ruu for that alone go back and check for yourself.Voting for a confirmed scum player at the beginning of the day is nonsense, because that vote would be better off pressuring someone else who could be scum. Catching 2 scum players during the day is better than 1. Why is Suzune scum-reading Ruu for something like this, then doing something very similar? Also there are ways to find scum without pressure voting you do know that right? Also he was not confirmed scum that was a silly thought if people slow down and think I don't think you all jump to that conclusion. Also people knew from reading the signup this guy has played a lot of mafia. I myself did not but he said "Hi Guys" To the entire chat, why would anyone who knows they at hiding from town then ask town how to get into the scum chat? This literally makes no sense to me? |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:24 PM
#991
#38 Nikamara said: RE1031 said: This reasoning is way too "either or" for me. And I don't know how you can still think that his bait was a slip. Isn't what you're doing also going after an easy lynch? It's not just an easy lynch. I think his lynch will result in the most effective information for the town. I really wish I was here at the beginning of these interactions, but I agree with Nika, This would not have been an easy lynch, and as much as I hate to lynch for information, I do believe this lynch would worth the tell. Trying to get everyone to stick with this lynch through out the day would have been hard. Suzune-chan said: Nikamara said: So you are only for lynching for information rather then lynching for scumminess. What are you hoping to learn from the people you want to lynch?RE1031 said: This reasoning is way too "either or" for me. And I don't know how you can still think that his bait was a slip. Isn't what you're doing also going after an easy lynch? It's not just an easy lynch. I think his lynch will result in the most effective information for the town. Its not like Nika's total reasoning for this lynch was all information, the possibility of him flipping an evil role, still exists, and you cant honestly tell me you dont see this as a possibility. I mean obviously at the time the day was young, and we make better use of our time elsewhere, but eventually we'd have to go back and wonder if he really did type this from the mindset of a town. |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:34 PM
#992
coromandel said: ??? of course mafia were skeptical about his claim, they would either know hes not mafia, making him town or tpr, or they were not skeptical and this was all some kind of plot for early town cred. im waiting for the, "this is just another wifom post". Yes I think this question has many answers that are unprovable, but since this is mafia, a lot of questions stem down to WIFOM and the point is to figure out which one has the highest possibility of being truelastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: Suzune-chan said: Great, at least, let's move forward with what I found most interesting from this exchange. Roz says that it is bait, whether or not it is will make itself know. However, I am going to follow up with a vote I kind of feel for right now. Vote:Ruu this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____- Gunna place my vote on Ruu for now, vote: Ruu Very forceful with her reasoning for voting the new guy, also its good to note that I think she was the first one to bring him the idea that this couldnt possibly be a bait. Very telling. Gunna continue rereading. What does it tell you about Ruu? Isn't it more likely that scum were skeptical about his claim? (assuming that roz himself isn't mafia) Edt: added words/Spelling |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:37 PM
#993
Ruu said: Eager beaver I see.Togs said: Okay I am back. I just noticed though skimming that this game has a twilight option which is GREAT NEWS ! I will redirect you to read Angel Beats mafia for a great example of how town can aggressively use double lynching as a strategy to win handily (not sure if there is anyone else here who was in that game). I will lend my land to trying to tie the votes toDay if needed, just ping me. smh double lynch is not possible Can somebody vote for coro and yurkin so they have 3 votes and we can enter twilight? |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:40 PM
#994
lastwhisper31 said: #38 Nikamara said: RE1031 said: This reasoning is way too "either or" for me. And I don't know how you can still think that his bait was a slip. Isn't what you're doing also going after an easy lynch? It's not just an easy lynch. I think his lynch will result in the most effective information for the town. I really wish I was here at the beginning of these interactions, but I agree with Nika, This would not have been an easy lynch, and as much as I hate to lynch for information, I do believe this lynch would worth the tell. Trying to get everyone to stick with this lynch through out the day would have been hard. I don't think that's what she meant though. "just" is important here - she's saying in addition to it being an easy lynch, it'll provide "effective information." I pointed it out that the logic she was planning to use depending on roz's flip could be used on her. If roz flipped town, she wanted to look at people who were going after him as an easy lynch. Which included herself. |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:43 PM
#995
logic340 said: I didnt realize at the time of doing that, that ruu was one of your choices. But honestly its a good thing she went, cause I have a better read on her. Also I stated above why I don't like my votes controlling trains, when I dont have adequate info, and am unavailable for the phase change.lastwhisper31 said: This is not helpfulunvote keeping my vote null for now. My phone is about to die, and I don't want to ruin w/e u guys have planned. Suzune wanted Ruu in the twilight phase and you unvoting makes that possibility harder now. |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:50 PM
#996
logic340 said: Coro would have been lynched? wouldnt ruu have gotten lynched? forcing Rez to move at the last minute back to yurkin.It was phase change why did you try to get coro lynched like that? WTH togs? Been gone all phase and do some scummy as shit like that? |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:55 PM
#997
Ruu said: I mean thats pretty subjective, I didnt think this outcome was a waste of time.wtf this is such a waste of time.... I'm so mad because of this outcome that I will play a game with you cause I will be bored for 24 h now: 1) My character hates titans 2) I'm a boring VT 3) I'm a titan. |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:55 PM
#998
Aug 12, 2017 7:57 PM
#999
lastwhisper31 said: the vote moved right back to Ruu so not sure what coro has a problem when she sit in an RVS for nearly 24 hours. Plus, as coro stated herself she thought he was scum he had never voted for him one time? Yeah she's probably the last one that needs to be talking about anybody vote right now her and yurkin both?logic340 said: But I dont think Coro was refering to Suzunes attack on Ruu, but her vote on Rez.@coromandel What I was getting at here: Suzune said what Ruu did was "throwing away the rest of the day", but Suzune herself did the exact same with her vote for roz! Voting for a confirmed scum player at the beginning of the day is nonsense, because that vote would be better off pressuring someone else who could be scum. Catching 2 scum players during the day is better than 1. Why is Suzune scum-reading Ruu for something like this, then doing something very similar? Also there are ways to find scum without pressure voting you do know that right? Also he was not confirmed scum that was a silly thought if people slow down and think I don't think you all jump to that conclusion. Also people knew from reading the signup this guy has played a lot of mafia. I myself did not but he said "Hi Guys" To the entire chat, why would anyone who knows they at hiding from town then ask town how to get into the scum chat? This literally makes no sense to me? |
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Aug 12, 2017 7:59 PM
#1000
Togs said: lmao im baffled at this response from you, u literally almost got someone lynched when everyone agreed on the twilight. Because of you and Abu, Rez had to move his vote, which aint no snipe, just to save the phase.roz1roz said: I communicated who I intended to vote for clearly beforehand. You are actually the one who sniped Yurkin since we were under the impression it would Coro and Ruu Abu should have been eliminated long time ago, as I said. He was more scummy then everyone else combined. I actualy don't want to believe that none else wanted to go on his wagon. Also, they sniped Ruu. Sniping is something mafia does. And that was also reasoning over my quick change to Yurkin whose wagon somehow dissapeared in last seconds. Abu/Yurkin/? - scumteam (?) That might be a theory. Or might be not. Convince me now why I shouldn't vote against you. |
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