Mini Game v1: Attack on Titan Mafia S2 | Game Thread | Serial Killer (Suzune-chan) has won!

Ruu said:


how can that be a possibility? One of the main rules of mafia is that the mafia has their own private club. How could town get access to it? makes no sense...

Ruu said:


do you still feel the same way? Also the fact that I'm on on that list means you are townreading me? I can't be neutral since I was part of the exchange with all your suspects.

Nikamara said:


still reading but up to this point I generally feel the same way but now find RE1031 more suspicious than Abu and Suzune chan seems less suspicious so depending on how the game unfolds they might drop off the suspect list.

lastwhisper31 said:

Seems kinda counter productive to the town mindset, to think a guy/girl with 50/100 games off site would make a mistake as fatal as this, and I cant really tell what you were thinking when you wrote this post, I mean I was new to mafia games in general when I joined this club, and even I didnt make a mistake like this (I did throw a game by accident, welp), so why was ur first assumption that it was a mistake and he must be scum, when other possibilities existed, which by how quickly you posted, doesnt really seem like you looked into them.

AbuHumaid said:
catching up now, but can you guys refrain from calling me "low hanging fruit" or "easy lynch"? I hate being underestimated, God if i was scum i would have won already with all this underestimation.

Suzune-chan said:
This post though is all over the place and comes off more as fear mongering as Ruu suggests horrible potentials rather then trying to regroup the town.

yurkin said:
abu's #50

According to the sign-up thread rozs not a newbie though.

Nikamara said:


still reading but up to this point I generally feel the same way but now find RE1031 more suspicious than Abu and Suzune chan seems less suspicious so depending on how the game unfolds they might drop off the suspect list.

lastwhisper31 said:
+1 for being the first person to question it.

Suzune-chan said:
I don't think they play many games on mal? Perhaps that is the reason.

yurkin said:
the underlined tells this is not post by a mistake imo. So what is roz trying to achieve...

lastwhisper31 said:
Didnt someone also state that MAL, in terms of mafia skills as a whole are lacking? Not saying it was you, then I guess we are really below the threshold.

logic340 said:
+ points for town Abu

logic340 said:
hm....no reasons for RVS....noted.

Ruu said:


lol this is NAI logic, come on! I would be frustrated too no matter my alignment

logic340 said:
How would she know?
I want to see what you get out of this.

roz1roz said:


Unless... it's a gambit.
Hello again ladies and gentelman.
Thanks for creating material for analysis.

I actually feel bad for playing newbie card to create (obvious) bait.

Honestly speaking I should break the discussion around the post quoted above, cause later on it could go dangerous for me and scum wouldn't take a bait anymore afterwards anyway.

I didn't. Why?

Well, I actualy was surprised that Suzune-chan took the bait. I was even more surprised they actualy pushed it even after noticing there is something wrong here. I literaly wanted to see 2-3 more posts from them.

Now as to analysis - mafia tendency would be either hardly push a misslynch with any arguments they can find OR defend to get town cred (since they obviously knew that this is false one).
Sk can't really be detected here, as they didn't know if I'm mafia or not, so they would look simlar to a town.

Wich player would be more likely to play one of this ways? Wich is more agresive in style and wich is more likely to build town cred to build "quite wolf". I will hide behind a newbie card here and say that you know each other better then I do.

On the other side, you gave me material for analysis. Thanks for taking a bait.

Ruu said:


bait? that's weird. I mean if it is, is a very anti-town aproach cause now they are waisting our time and you can't get a lot from it because town and mafia would vote them for the same reasons so they can't be blame for it.

Ruu said:


this is the @logic340 incident all over again -____-

Suzune-chan said:
You created this one by accepting so fast, rolling the blame onto Abu, then worrying about the worst case scenario, and then asked me about my opinion regarding it. The build up here was most interesting.

lastwhisper31 said:
Why you keep quoting rvs votes? and how could you possibly ignore the most important post at the time, with not one word? or did i miss it

Suzune-chan said:

I might have given RE too much credit in my initial reading of the topic because I was really focused on Ruu and not the other people because this comment is really interesting. It could be read two ways, the first is that it is not worth lynching them let the vig do it the second is let’s just do it. This is a split way of looking at it if you think he is scum you would get rid of scum right away rather than sit on it because the vig could then be better used later. It also tells everyone what kind of night action the vig is going to take and that is just bad for business.

actually there was an interesting back and forth going on here. On page one it looks like you were sure that they were scum and wanted them to be lynched or vigged. On this page though, you have worked yourself back around to it must be bait. Which if you read the earlier posts, you were still on the must be scum thought process about how the day will be boring now. What changed you mind? Or are you using [url=Until yurkin pointed it out, I think all of us thought he was a newbie. Slips happen. It happened in The Morning After with MrSkittles (although to a much lesser degree).]this post[/url] as the complete change? Otherwise, it kind of looks like you are covering for Ruu/Abu/and myself.

It is at this point, where you kind of drop off a bit. You become a little bit lighter you push against logic but not really for any sort of reason. You keep up pretty steadfast that it was not scummy for us to vote roz. We hit kind of a stride where you read people and put them into lists that we then fight over. But very little is said about you personally or where you stand. You never say what you think the initial reactions mean or how you used them so it just becomes something that RE did to look busy and fill time.

This is where we get into the part where Suzune started to suspect RE a little


This vote seemed to come out of left field. I was actually going to comment on it right away but was posting about something else and it got lost. I tried to hit at it later in a weak sad attempt when logic commented on the back and forth between RE and Coro, but Logic thought all was good and I was wavering. Which forces her to choose information from only the opening posts about why Coro is scummy Which left me thinking that this was quite strange. As we know that RE took the ‘slip’ seriously I don’t think that Coro not taking it seriously is really an reason to doubt it.

Which is coupled by the weirdness of this following post where RE agrees to what Coro said but leaves the vote there even though her reason for voting just melted and she agreed to it.
This conversation seems to prompt the making of a new list to explain the old one. This one at least has a little context on where they are coming from based on her opinions about how initial reactions happened and what to make of them.

RE1031 said:
1. Trying to trick him into revealing (aka taking advantage of newbieness).
2. Teasing. Or more accurately, gleeful that someone else has a target on their back for today's lynch.

Honestly RE is just extraordinarily flat.

Later she becomes for defensive for those who voted Roz

Makes a complicated list that we waste time debating

Gets fired up about Coro but then backs all the way down

Re is not particularly suspicious, she is just not really doing very much.

I would say she has found a place where she can kind of drift. Which is probably the most concerning part of all.

lastwhisper31 said:
I understand your eager for me to read the post on yurkin, just to clarify. Did you list them all, or some? Cause if your being nitpicky, then that feels more scummy, as your telling people what to look at, I will def look at his posts on my own, and will give you my conclusion when im finished. Everytime I read a page I jump to the last page, which is why Im answering posts from two different spots.

lastwhisper31 said:
Second post since you joined in, and this is what you quote? His rvs on me because he town reads me everytime im scum? You really dont like rvs do you.

lastwhisper31 said:
+1, so eager, and so jumpy

RE1031 said:

Why are you ignoring the bottom half of that quote?

It's important to note who is taking the "slip" seriously because if they are not, then it implies to me that they know it's going to turn up as nothing since they are mafia and the person making the slip is not.

RE1031 said:

ONCE IT HAPPENED ONCE

lastwhisper31 said:

brootal

logic340 said:
@RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.

Why is it bad for business? We only have roleblockers and a doctor in this game - as long as the vig's identity is hidden, and the doctor doesn't protect scum, then there is hardly anything to stop a shot. And I've already elaborated on the benefit of the vig taking him out instead of a lynch - it's the equivalent of a no lynch if we get rid of someone who is caught scum based on a slip and not behavior.

My reads on Abu and Ruu are no longer based on that one incident but the things that followed.

I need you to link posts where I do these things, because I'm not sure how you reached these conclusions.

Ignoring bottom half the the quote?It's important to note who is taking the "slip" seriously because if they are not, then it implies to me that they know it's going to turn up as nothing since they are mafia and the person making the slip is not.

Gee, thanks.

I don't recall being defensive. If you could link where...

Why does time worry you when half the players haven't contributed much?

4 people have expressed a scum read on me. Nikamara, logic, Ruu, and you. I don't think that's drifting.

logic340 said:
Do you know what the logic incident is? I find it interesting that two people who commented on this have yet to inquire about what it actually means?

Suzune-chan said:
I never want to ISO someone again, I forget how long it actually takes and I did not glean as much interest as I had hoped I would get from this...I kind of thought this one would just hit me, but there was not much there and yes I talked about myself in third person.



Edit: added the rest of RE's numbers

Suzune-chan said:
Seems irrelevant, I don't read past games~.

logic340 said:
@RE1031 why are you shouting? It happened once and I noted it that is all.
@lastwhisper what are you getting at? Should I sit back and do nothing in RVS? I think the is the second time you have mentioned me picking at RVS votes when I have much better stuff than that you could be poking at right now. Why haven't you inquired as wo what my inquires are about instead of just mudslinging them. And if that is not what you are doing then I do apologize.

RE1031 said:

Why is it bad for business? We only have roleblockers and a doctor in this game - as long as the vig's identity is hidden, and the doctor doesn't protect scum, then there is hardly anything to stop a shot. And I've already elaborated on the benefit of the vig taking him out instead of a lynch - it's the equivalent of a no lynch if we get rid of someone who is caught scum based on a slip and not behavior.

Suzune-chan said:
Nothing really sticks though, it is just a lot of interesting posts. I would vote Ruu over you.

lastwhisper31 said:
Dude im back reading, what I find interesting is up to me, all I did was point out that ur immediate posts were both questions on RVS posts.

logic340 said:
I am a tough cookie and thanks you for that.
Ruu and i have history from my very first game, to each of our first games in the club, to MS match during Valentines, and then this. So we are well acquainted and pretty good at reading one another. I put a lot of stock in her read on me, though i let her pocket me a few games back so I am not as I once was, I still feel like I can get info that will be useful to others by playing around with her.

Suzune-chan said:
Seems irrelevant, I don't read past games~.

RE1031 said:

The person I'm voting for has vanished, in the meanwhile I have solidified a town read on Ruu (which I think you disagree with?) I'll add that roz is probably not mafia (a little preflip association), but could still be TPR. I was going to comment on logic (but got distracted) - I like your small read on him and would like it even more if you pursued it. His defense of Abu is rather weak, something that I see coming more from scum than town.
Do you disagree with my read on coro? You commented on how I came at her, but not how you felt about her yourself. I cannot continue to go after someone who is not here.
If you can't bother to link the posts that gave the impressions you have about me, then I'm not going to bother defending myself from your accusations. Sorry, I'm lazy.

logic340 said:
"Seems irrelevant" doesn't mean it isn't relevant. I actually have a reason for asking this question and noted that you didn't inquire either. Seems to me it would be good to understand where someone is coming from before passing judgement but continue as it helps me read you both.

lastwhisper31 said:
Speak for urself, in regards to what it means about his alignment, I dont have a definite answer on that, but as someone who noticed his post of 50/100 games under his belt, my first thought would not have been, oops he slipped.

Nikamara said:


I see, what a long history XD.
btw what does pocket mean?

Suzune-chan said:
I did not actually consider it as part of Ruu's argument towards me as it did little to diminish the point and did nothing to make me think my current argument was ungrounded.