so I had to cut this short for obvious reasons time. These are not scum teams:
ironace/Amai
Coro/Luna - is definitely not a team with the Dichotomy we have going on between ironace and Amai.
ironace/Luna - I doubt this is a team due to voting early D1 and possible interactions. Does anyone think the FoS stuff between them was scum theatre?
ironace/coro - Same as above, plus the early game are you scum question, and then there's coro's vote on ironace right before she moved to Luna D3.
Also they voted together on ironace D1, RE picked up on it more than I did at this stage one of them has to be scum on that train since Amai/ironace isn't a team. This makes me feel better about ironace than Amai.
A very direct approach. What if he says "why yes I am." what will you do?
"Yes I am" = scum replying truthfully, or someone (of any alignment) who's being sarcastic.
ironace didn't really reply to my question directly, so that's a red flag. (=may not want to talk about his alignment)
His reply was more "people are already voting for me?", which sounded a little defensive.
Although I'm not taking this too seriously, it's too early to be certain of anything.
ironace said: @coromandel
I was kinda taken aback there because people usually tend to scum read me due to a single post. And this time I hadn't even posted so I was like. .. ok...
If you want a serious reply...your not getting it :p
ironace said: @coromandel
I was kinda taken aback there because people usually tend to scum read me due to a single post. And this time I hadn't even posted so I was like. .. ok...
If you want a serious reply...your not getting it :p
oh..? :>
I think you misunderstood, because I didn't scum-read you at the beginning.
My vote was random, and I simply asked whether you're scum or not.
ironace said: so ill reply to the people who asked me stuff, but first of all
did someone use an ability to see logic's alignment?
I dont know how to feel about this. On one way i feel its useful but also im sure its a oneoff ability so using it so early is.....
I don't think this is fake. If it was, this game would probably have been labeled as "bastard". It isn't, so I expect Logic to be town.
A reaction: It seemed like you were uncomfortable with the question, and you didn't want to reply to it seriously.
It was sort of a test, which at first I thought you'd failed. But when RE compared it to the situation between me and yurkin in another game, I realized that this lead is too vague, that townies often do things that seem scummy, like refusing to explain themselves. And I'm now thinking you're not scum after all, because scum would most likely try to do "damage control", by *not* refusing anything, but to try and sweet-talk themselves out of it. Your initial reaction seemed scummy to me, but then it developed into the other direction.
ironace said: Corrext me if im wrong but..Wasn't re really suspicious of luna?I don't want to ask about the reasons for nk since that was the cause of my mislynch in my last game but since logic brought it up...so will i.
You're putting this up for discussion, but what's your own opinion here?
Do you think Luna is scum based on the NK, or not?
ironace said: I don't get how re's ability is useful...
And just when I was thinking of poking re the next day.fml.
Now who to poke......
Thankfully red is back
coromandel said: @logic340
How sure are of Abu being town? If you've played wtih mafia-Abu before, can you describe the difference between his mafia and town behavior?
I have been teammates with Abu and caught scum Abu as well. He is chill as either alignment but he's more casual as town. He actually likes being mafia so he can get a bit bored as town. If you get him talking he generally makes alignment revealing posts, especially when facing pressure.
I am fairly confident but will take another look and continue to try and get him active.
ok, i have only played 2 games with abu before(1 town and one mafia)
and he was slightly aggressive as well as more participative as mafia compared to as town-where he was often MIA
He has posted more this time than in his previous game where he was town.
Basing it all due his style, Im quite sure he is scum
vote:abu humaid
If you people are not convinced then please convince me. As, never have i been more sure of somebody being scum.
Can you explain what changed your mind? In #431 you seemed to mostly suspect Salmon, Luna and me.
My Thoughts at the time I voted for coro:
coromandel voted floofs for a very short time on D2
At this stage there is a dichotomy between ironace and amai yet coro is voting Luna?
I understand Luna is connected to everyone but that was a lynch for yesterday.
I feel like coro was saving her for this mislynch.
Regardless of if I am wrong here my EoD vote should land on either ace or amai
so I feel this is a good way to collect some reactions here.
Amai's shift on Luna feels unnatural but I am looking more into that now.
Amai isn't showing me any town motive here. I really hope that if their information is real they come through and prove themselves.
It's not hard but their last two posts leave me frustrated.
ironace and Amai_yume should be the only two being voted at this time.
I understand that if coro is town her only choice for second scum is Luna
If ironace is town then it is Amai and either Luna/coro which he doesn't look connected to either.
If Luna is town the only other scum from her point of view can be coromandel
If amai_yume is town then they should be looking for irornace's partner since their information is solid.
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coromandel said: hmmm.... if amai is telling the truth, then ironace is scum, and it should be ironace/luna then. If amai is lying then amai/luna. So either way, Luna has to be scum imo, unless amai and ironace are trying to distance themselves from each other smh. >.>
vote change: luna
Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to.
pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic.
amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!!
How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read.
I already claimed i was role blocker, and i had asked people who to RB last night luna was quite a popular opinion, so i RB-ed her.
Im town, so i cannot kill others and thus, you gave yourself away by saying i visited logic.
My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out.
What did reading of past games turn up?
I don't think it would tell me anything about Luna and I have played in the two games that ironace has played in so you could always ask my opinion.
I found a game with Coro in it and he was a bit more involved than here. MAL is being so slow
coromandel said: hmmm.... if amai is telling the truth, then ironace is scum, and it should be ironace/luna then. If amai is lying then amai/luna. So either way, Luna has to be scum imo, unless amai and ironace are trying to distance themselves from each other smh. >.>
vote change: luna
Why suddenly change your vote huh?It seems like your scrambling for any little hope you can cling to.
pathetic. phatetic. Absolutly pathetic.
amai screwed up. Its obvious now!!!!!
How did I screw up? I stated my results and now i'm leaning toward Coro as your scum partner then Luna. I don't want to tilt on my town read.
I already claimed i was role blocker, and i had asked people who to RB last night luna was quite a popular opinion, so i RB-ed her.
Im town, so i cannot kill others and thus, you gave yourself away by saying i visited logic.
My evidence is here for everyone to see and who knows this can be an elaborate ruse by you/luna. Past games would help me figure this out.
What did reading of past games turn up?
I don't think it would tell me anything about Luna and I have played in the two games that ironace has played in so you could always ask my opinion.
I found a game with Coro in it and he was a bit more involved than here. MAL is being so slow
well with 35 minutes left we need to focus on this game.
- Floof's early posts gave me the impression that she tried to stay in the background.
- When asked who her suspects are, she answers Re and Salmon. But she never made any effort to try to talk to Salmon and figure him out.
- She never made any effort to talk to other people outside of RE and answering some questions.
- Her other suspect Salmon already had some votes but she completely avoided getting involved (not asking him questions, not voting him).
Amai:
- In Amai's first post she said "Reading up on the past few pages now". But wouldn't it be better to start from the beginning when you're subbing in, to see how the game developed over time?
- In her second post she asks Abu why he thinks Luna is scum. I guess that was something she picked up on the "past few pages". But there he was talking about Luna and coro being scum partners. She didn't ask him about coro though.
- With her third post she shows she hasn't read the beginning of the thread yet or else she would have known that logic is confirmed town.
- Then she said she said what she felt so far already. But that's not much. She was asked a few times about her thoughts on remaining players and who she finds suspicious but the only "reads" she gave were very vague reads on Logic and Luna.
- When logic asked her again, she finally replies to his early question, explaining why she thinks Luna is town, that she's unsure about Abu.
- Post #801:
→ Defends herself and says she gave her thoughts about people who she felt good about. But why didn't she name her suspects? She was asked a few times.
→ Claims she wants interactions with others in real time. But this is not always possible in these games due to time zones and responsibilities IRL. And the only person she asked something was Abu, she didn't try to initiate discussions with others.
- I already pointed out that her "evidence" is not obvious as she claims it is.
- I already pointed out how she suddenly switched from town reading me to saying I'm mafia but without giving any proper explanations.
- No reply to these things yet (even though she posted after it).
- I feel like she's trying to avoid a lot of questions and trying to avoid giving proper reads/reasons for them (when she started playing and also now). Overall her behavior hasn't given me a reason why I should town read her.
I came to similar conclusions as you did in my #982.
Amai_yume said: Between Coro and Luna, I still think both are equally scummy today and coro maybe more than Luna in earlier days. I can't decide!
Vote: Coro
now this is stupid, your basically SAYING coro is scum as you want people to think luna is scum.
And why unvote me when you were so sure i was the one who ''visited'' logic last night?
EDIT--and i am denying that?
Amai_yume said: Between Coro and Luna, I still think both are equally scummy today and coro maybe more than Luna in earlier days. I can't decide!
Vote: Coro
now this is stupid, your basically SAYING coro is scum as you want people to think luna is scum.
And why unvote me when you were so sure i was the one who ''visited'' logic last night?
Either way i'm going to vote between the people I think are scum.
Amai_yume said: Between Coro and Luna, I still think both are equally scummy today and coro maybe more than Luna in earlier days. I can't decide!
Vote: Coro
now this is stupid, your basically SAYING coro is scum as you want people to think luna is scum.
And why unvote me when you were so sure i was the one who ''visited'' logic last night?
EDIT--and i am denying that?
^ this
If Amai is saying the truth with her claim she would know ironace is lying. Switching her vote to someone who she isn't sure of... just doesn't make sense.
You did appear quite scummy initially though, but towards the end of d2 my thoughts began to change.Im giving you a town read.
Yeah but Amai always said she has a strong town read on me and didn't want to tilt on it. But at one point she suddenly changed her mind but never explained why. So if she's now saying she thought I was scummy in earlier days that would be a contradiction.
Amai_yume said: Between Coro and Luna, I still think both are equally scummy today and coro maybe more than Luna in earlier days. I can't decide!
Vote: Coro
I really wish you would have posted this last night so we had time to go over it.
at a glance it looks like distancing and I don't know why you concluded that coro was scummier than Luna. I have swung violently on both recently.
In all honesty you should have never moved your vote.
you should be sure of your results which means only luna or coro could be scum. but today the lynch is between you and ironace. I should have realized it from the time that you claimed and made this day between you and ironace. Everything else was just trying to find the final scum. I think your claim timing messed with coro because that vote moved from ironace to Luna quickly after the claim (which I can make sense of but still feels weird).
Amai_yume said: Between Coro and Luna, I still think both are equally scummy today and coro maybe more than Luna in earlier days. I can't decide!
Vote: Coro
I really wish you would have posted this last night so we had time to go over it.
at a glance it looks like distancing and I don't know why you concluded that coro was scummier than Luna. I have swung violently on both recently.
I ended up passing out from my long day and only had 3 hours of sleep earlier. In the end I will vote Iron's scum buddy or iron. As long as I get scum got.
In all honesty you should have never moved your vote.
you should be sure of your results which means only luna or coro could be scum. but today the lynch is between you and ironace. I should have realized it from the time that you claimed and made this day between you and ironace. Everything else was just trying to find the final scum. I think your claim timing messed with coro because that vote moved from ironace to Luna quickly after the claim (which I can make sense of but still feels weird).
It could be we just do things differently as I do play on a different site normally.
Amai_yume said: Between Coro and Luna, I still think both are equally scummy today and coro maybe more than Luna in earlier days. I can't decide!
Vote: Coro
I really wish you would have posted this last night so we had time to go over it.
at a glance it looks like distancing and I don't know why you concluded that coro was scummier than Luna. I have swung violently on both recently.
I ended up passing out from my long day and only had 3 hours of sleep earlier. In the end I will vote Iron's scum buddy or iron. As long as I get scum got.
Why chance the loss today though?
you can always use the information from the flip to search for the final partner tomorrow.
How are you sure coro is his partner here? I don't think coro or Luna can be his partner based on what I have seen D1. Did you read D1? I think you said yes?
In all honesty you should have never moved your vote.
you should be sure of your results which means only luna or coro could be scum. but today the lynch is between you and ironace. I should have realized it from the time that you claimed and made this day between you and ironace. Everything else was just trying to find the final scum. I think your claim timing messed with coro because that vote moved from ironace to Luna quickly after the claim (which I can make sense of but still feels weird).
It could be we just do things differently as I do play on a different site normally.
That is fair but in lylo where there is no read on you why wouldn't you make the best use of your posts?
In all honesty you should have never moved your vote.
you should be sure of your results which means only luna or coro could be scum. but today the lynch is between you and ironace. I should have realized it from the time that you claimed and made this day between you and ironace. Everything else was just trying to find the final scum. I think your claim timing messed with coro because that vote moved from ironace to Luna quickly after the claim (which I can make sense of but still feels weird).
It could be we just do things differently as I do play on a different site normally.
That is fair but in lylo where there is no read on you why wouldn't you make the best use of your posts?
I have been making use of my time here and i'm just not a wordy person in general.
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