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Jul 28, 2017 6:50 AM

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LucianRoy said:
@Suzune-chan
@Gwendolly
@Laswhisper31
@Zymf
@Wen294

Vote por favor.

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The_Pyromaani said:
Also wai u think Salmon is scum=


I don't think he is town because when I called him out for post 354, he tried to defuse the conflict by reading me town instead of addressing why I voted him, he also backtracked on his words because he clearly says he was considering voting me in one post (354), and then says I'm town in the next (361).
I feel like town would be more conclusive in their reads, especially on someone like myself.
He also has no scumreads and did not revote. This doesn't show motivation to solve the game, and could be cautious scum.


Yeah i read them again and it sounds bit weird. 1st accusing u for scummy actions and then turning tables and going otherway.
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Jul 28, 2017 6:50 AM

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LucianRoy said:
In the event of a No-lynch:

We just have a second D1 tomorrow.

It's not the end of the world, but it will make the course of the game very hard to swing back in town's favor.
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
Jul 28, 2017 6:52 AM

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LucianRoy said:
In the event of a No-lynch:

We just have a second D1 tomorrow.


Which would be entertaining me a lot if i were hosting now lol. But since im player i dont wanna see it. It's basically we continue search needle from field.
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Jul 28, 2017 6:53 AM

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well, IRL i start with the night cycle so.. this is just normal for me, not the end of the game ofc, i know we can still do this xD
Jul 28, 2017 6:58 AM

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looks no lynch it is.
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Jul 28, 2017 6:59 AM

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LucianRoy said:
@Suzune-chan
@Gwendolly
@Laswhisper31
@Zymf
@Wen294

Vote por favor.

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The_Pyromaani said:
Also wai u think Salmon is scum=


I don't think he is town because when I called him out for post 354, he tried to defuse the conflict by reading me town instead of addressing why I voted him, he also backtracked on his words because he clearly says he was considering voting me in one post (354), and then says I'm town in the next (361).
I feel like town would be more conclusive in their reads, especially on someone like myself.
He also has no scumreads and did not revote. This doesn't show motivation to solve the game, and could be cautious scum.


I'm still gonna say this. I didn't change the topic or my opinion. Reread my messages in the night phase guys. I clearly stated how I came to conclude Lucian as town.

PS thanks for the explanation on the early town read of LW
Jul 28, 2017 7:00 AM

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And Time!

You may continue posting while I calculate the vote count.
Jul 28, 2017 7:02 AM

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Red_Salmon said:
PS thanks for the explanation on the early town read of LW

What? Do you mean, early TR from LW?

Why wait until the very last minute to say this?
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Jul 28, 2017 7:03 AM
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I think we should agree to lynch someone at least 9 hours before phase change, last minutes lynches don't work on this setup
Jul 28, 2017 7:04 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Red_Salmon said:
PS thanks for the explanation on the early town read of LW

What? Do you mean, early TR from LW?

Why wait until the very last minute to say this?

Yea I meant from LW
Was busy with something else, just got back to see how the vote count ended up.
Jul 28, 2017 7:06 AM

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Red_Salmon said:
LucianRoy said:

What? Do you mean, early TR from LW?

Why wait until the very last minute to say this?

Yea I meant from LW
Was busy with something else, just got back to see how the vote count ended up.
Red_Salmon said:
LucianRoy said:

What? Do you mean, early TR from LW?

Why wait until the very last minute to say this?

Yea I meant from LW
Was busy with something else, just got back to see how the vote count ended up.

i needed an early intervention from you :/
Jul 28, 2017 7:06 AM

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Day 1 Final Vote Count

LucianRoy (1): Sleipnirr
AlbertinoDias (1): Zymf
Wen294 (1): Togs
Suzune-Chan (1): aa-dono
Red_Salmon (5): Lucian Roy, Shinichi-Kun, ironace, AlbertinoDias, The_Pyromaani
LastWhisper31 (1): Suzune-Chan
Togs (1): Wen294
Not Voting (4): AbuHumaid, Gwendolly, LastWhisper31, Red_Salmon

Please alert me via PM if there are any mistakes.

There is no lynch.

It is now night one. Please refrain from posting till D2 begins. Night actions must be submitted to me before then to be counted.

Time until Day 2

I have sent prods to players that are not meeting the posting standard posted in the rules.
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@Suzune-Chan was killed they were


It is now Day 2. With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch. You have 48 hours.

Good luck.

@aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @Togs @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf

You may begin.
Jul 29, 2017 7:05 AM
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Damn

vote: Red_Salmon
Jul 29, 2017 7:07 AM

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I am currently seeking replacements. Please be patient while I try to find them.
Jul 29, 2017 7:08 AM

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Vote: AbuHumaid

Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off?
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Jul 29, 2017 7:10 AM

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We were not even close to a lynch yesterday, but we need to lynch someone today! I have a few suggestions I think we should follow:
  • Place your vote as soon as possible! We have no use of votes that aren't placed anywhere. You can change your vote later as much as you like.
  • After the first 24 hours we will consolidate votes. We will only focus and vote on the three players who at that time hold the most votes, and save our effort on those with less.
  • These three players are our lynch candidates and will be looked deeply into and likely have to claim their roles.
  • One hour before phase change is last call! At this time, our priority should no longer be to discuss, but only lock a lynch.

Throughout this process be will keep using L-2, L-1 and Intent to Hammer as previously discussed.

ps. I know I wasn't the most helpful myself D1 either, due to my inactivity. I will also be away for most of today because I'm attending a name party for my niece. I will be back afterwards to give more thoughts to yesterday and today.

LucianRoy said:
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Also, I understand that people find the early read weird, but isn't that quite common in ms lmao, people throw out read list on day 1 or even single reads. The only problem I have is I was wrong about my brother in the last game, so I will not let him get away with shit like this so easily.

Change Vote:Last

None of this post explains why Last is scum.

Shinichi-Kun said:
Until a lynch happens none of my reads will be certain.

This feels like a very non-committal approach to D1.
Reads are dynamic, and liable to change. Just because you're uncertain of them, doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong. If you were certain of your reads, I'd think you were scum.
Hmm.. I also find these two statements a little interesting. It looks like Shinichi is taking the easy and safe way out of Day 1 lynching. Shinichi is essentially saying: "I don't know who is scum, so I will just lynch my brother which is totally valid because all reads day 1 are uncertain."
This should be compared with Shinichi's scum and town meta I guess.

Vote: Shinichi-kun
Jul 29, 2017 7:15 AM
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LucianRoy said:
Vote: AbuHumaid

Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off?
there's no better lynch now imo, we need a lynch asap. Also how am i sheeping you but the people who jumped on Red's train not sheeping you?
Jul 29, 2017 7:19 AM
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@Zymf can you explain the L1 and L2 stuff to me? I didn't get it
Jul 29, 2017 7:23 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
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Vote: AbuHumaid

Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off?
there's no better lynch now imo, we need a lynch asap. Also how am i sheeping you but the people who jumped on Red's train not sheeping you?

Everyone except maybe shin sheeped me. That also includes you now.
I recommend a quick look-back on the thread.

Why do you want to quicklynch?
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Jul 29, 2017 7:35 AM

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I'm baaack. It's gonna take me some time to catch up

Jul 29, 2017 7:35 AM

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Zymf said:
This should be compared with Shinichi's scum and town meta I guess.

How do you plan for this to happen?

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Oh man, I'm starting to already suffer from burnout.

After this game, I'm dipping for the next two to three months.
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Jul 29, 2017 7:36 AM
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LucianRoy said:
AbuHumaid said:
there's no better lynch now imo, we need a lynch asap. Also how am i sheeping you but the people who jumped on Red's train not sheeping you?

Everyone except maybe shin sheeped me. That also includes you now.
I recommend a quick look-back on the thread.

Why do you want to quicklynch?
Lynches are informative whether it's a mislynch or a scum lynch and i want to make it quick to avoid another Day 1 situation where we have almost nothing to build on for arguments
Jul 29, 2017 7:41 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
LucianRoy said:

Everyone except maybe shin sheeped me. That also includes you now.
I recommend a quick look-back on the thread.

Why do you want to quicklynch?
Lynches are informative whether it's a mislynch or a scum lynch and i want to make it quick to avoid another Day 1 situation where we have almost nothing to build on for arguments

Think of this as more time for day 1.

Think of that as a Quicklynch on D1.

The later simply doesn't help town.
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Jul 29, 2017 7:46 AM

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@zymf your idea is quite persuasive.
As is your vote on shin.
As of now, both you and lucian have credible info that red and shin are scum.
I suggest we poke them more this time.
Jul 29, 2017 7:53 AM

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figured as much that there wasn't going to be a lynch, the problem is if people wait till the last minute then the chances of actually have 8 people on at the same time is very slim. Also not used to seeing suzune get night kiilled on night 1, guessing that means the other mason has pretty much become vanilla.


Jul 29, 2017 7:58 AM

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Zymf said:
We were not even close to a lynch yesterday, but we need to lynch someone today! I have a few suggestions I think we should follow:
  • Place your vote as soon as possible! We have no use of votes that aren't placed anywhere. You can change your vote later as much as you like.
  • After the first 24 hours we will consolidate votes. We will only focus and vote on the three players who at that time hold the most votes, and save our effort on those with less.
  • These three players are our lynch candidates and will be looked deeply into and likely have to claim their roles.
  • One hour before phase change is last call! At this time, our priority should no longer be to discuss, but only lock a lynch.

Throughout this process be will keep using L-2, L-1 and Intent to Hammer as previously discussed.

ps. I know I wasn't the most helpful myself D1 either, due to my inactivity. I will also be away for most of today because I'm attending a name party for my niece. I will be back afterwards to give more thoughts to yesterday and today.

LucianRoy said:

None of this post explains why Last is scum.


This feels like a very non-committal approach to D1.
Reads are dynamic, and liable to change. Just because you're uncertain of them, doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong. If you were certain of your reads, I'd think you were scum.
Hmm.. I also find these two statements a little interesting. It looks like Shinichi is taking the easy and safe way out of Day 1 lynching. Shinichi is essentially saying: "I don't know who is scum, so I will just lynch my brother which is totally valid because all reads day 1 are uncertain."
This should be compared with Shinichi's scum and town meta I guess.

Vote: Shinichi-kun


Whats wrong with my uncertainty? I was willing to vote and even lynch someone on day 1 which is really rare coming from me. Not sure the person who wasn't even active enough to help town push for a lynch should be talking.

However I do like your above post about the 3 people, that is a nice course of action.

What scum meta lol?


Jul 29, 2017 7:59 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Vote: AbuHumaid

Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off?


Not really a sheep lol he did start off the phase by voting first, and salmon was also the hot topic of the last phase so it should not be considered strange.


Jul 29, 2017 8:02 AM

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AbuHumaid said:
LucianRoy said:

Everyone except maybe shin sheeped me. That also includes you now.
I recommend a quick look-back on the thread.

Why do you want to quicklynch?
Lynches are informative whether it's a mislynch or a scum lynch and i want to make it quick to avoid another Day 1 situation where we have almost nothing to build on for arguments


I want a lynch but we have 48 hours, I wanna see a lynch in atleast 36 hours thats the optimal time. Any longer risks another no lynch.


Jul 29, 2017 8:03 AM

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vote:salmon

I still like the idea of lynching him since, he hasn't been too townlike though I guess I aint one to talk.


Jul 29, 2017 8:21 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
LucianRoy said:
Vote: AbuHumaid

Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off?


Not really a sheep lol he did start off the phase by voting first, and salmon was also the hot topic of the last phase so it should not be considered strange.

Yes, it is a sheep. I single-handedly made that train a reality through my interactions with Salmon. It would have never garnered the votes at the EoD1 had I not pressured him.

Why are you defending Abu on this?

Shinichi-Kun said:
vote:salmon

I still like the idea of lynching him since, he hasn't been too townlike though I guess I aint one to talk.

Please go over why you want to lynch him.

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Just because I say 'this is extra time for D1' doesn't mean it's actually extra time for D1. Because as you can see, we are now on D2.
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Jul 29, 2017 8:32 AM

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Here again! Oh wow. Suzie got elminated :/ Oh well.

Im gonna go backread day 1 again.
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Jul 29, 2017 8:32 AM

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First of all that's effed up that there was no lynch, even with me it wouldn't have added up. Allthough I didn't like it that lucian did control the lynch after all like Sleip mentioned. I thought more people would have been online. So I second Zymfs idea.

I'm at work at the moment with my slow as phone, so I'm gonna butt in later today
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Jul 29, 2017 8:39 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


Not really a sheep lol he did start off the phase by voting first, and salmon was also the hot topic of the last phase so it should not be considered strange.

Yes, it is a sheep. I single-handedly made that train a reality through my interactions with Salmon. It would have never garnered the votes at the EoD1 had I not pressured him.

Why are you defending Abu on this?

Shinichi-Kun said:
vote:salmon

I still like the idea of lynching him since, he hasn't been too townlike though I guess I aint one to talk.

Please go over why you want to lynch him.

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Just because I say 'this is extra time for D1' doesn't mean it's actually extra time for D1. Because as you can see, we are now on D2.


It's not a defense of abu tho, I just thought the vote made sense. I mean last phase it seemed people just wanted a lynch so why now are you questioning that vote.

Ill go pull some posts out of the thread.


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Gwendolly said:
First of all that's effed up that there was no lynch, even with me it wouldn't have added up. Allthough I didn't like it that lucian did control the lynch after all like Sleip mentioned. I thought more people would have been online. So I second Zymfs idea.

I'm at work at the moment with my slow as phone, so I'm gonna butt in later today


Timezones are a bitch lol, i have to wake up quite early to be around for phase change.


Jul 29, 2017 8:42 AM

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The_Pyromaani said:
looks no lynch it is.
looks like it didn't bother you at all
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Shinichi-Kun said:
Gwendolly said:
First of all that's effed up that there was no lynch, even with me it wouldn't have added up. Allthough I didn't like it that lucian did control the lynch after all like Sleip mentioned. I thought more people would have been online. So I second Zymfs idea.

I'm at work at the moment with my slow as phone, so I'm gonna butt in later today


Timezones are a bitch lol, i have to wake up quite early to be around for phase change.

That DP change tho! Got quite used to your old one. WHO ARE YOU? I DON'T KNOW YOU ANYMORE
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Jul 29, 2017 8:57 AM

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354 I mean it's kind of sketchy when u finally leave RVs 2 hours before phase change. Even as a new player you should always track where your vote is and keep updating the reasons as of why its there.

371 Who do u think mafia are if they're playing the lurking game? Also you said you wanted to vote lucian but hes not lurking even the slighest.


Problem with Salmon is he is flip floppy, on a second note I am like that every game so its hard for me to vote him just on that.

Honestly before the last few hours of the game red was pretty absent, and he even dissapeared right before the EOD. How confident waas he?


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Gwendolly said:
Shinichi-Kun said:


Timezones are a bitch lol, i have to wake up quite early to be around for phase change.

That DP change tho! Got quite used to your old one. WHO ARE YOU? I DON'T KNOW YOU ANYMORE


It wasnt even working well since the signature was getting fucked up, and touko is one of my favorite Dangaronpa characters.


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The_Pyromaani said:
looks no lynch it is.
looks like it didn't bother you at all


Well most people expected that outcome, salmon even vanished during that last hour he prob knew it wouldn't go through either.


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@aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @Togs @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf

Where everyone go I have so much time to talk

Btw Lucian are u going to play live mafia cause if so hop on discord


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Shinichi-Kun said:
@aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @Togs @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf

Where everyone go I have so much time to talk

Btw Lucian are u going to play live mafia cause if so hop on discord
Still here~ I'm tired so I'm just reading the thread and post stuff when I have energy to digest and type about 9 pages :P

Jul 29, 2017 9:16 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
@aa-dono @ironace @AlbertinoDias @Togs @Gwendolly @lastwhisper31 @AbuHumaid @Sleipnirr @Wen294 @The_Pyromaani @Red_Salmon @Shinichi-Kun @LucianRoy @Zymf

Where everyone go I have so much time to talk

Btw Lucian are u going to play live mafia cause if so hop on discord

I have time...but I'm just tired atm
Jul 29, 2017 9:22 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
It's not a defense of abu tho, I just thought the vote made sense. I mean last phase it seemed people just wanted a lynch so why now are you questioning that vote.

It's not EoD1, and he provided zero original reason for voting that slot.
And thus far he's shown a lack of effort to form reads on anyone in game, and with that, no town motivation.
And you definitely just defended him on sheeping, because that's exactly what he did and you denied it.

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Gwendolly said:
Allthough I didn't like it that lucian did control the lynch after all like Sleip mentioned.

I controlled the lynch, yes. I also tried to help town by giving them an actual out to a D1 lynch.

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Live mafia is today? I'll check it out.
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LucianRoy said:
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It's not a defense of abu tho, I just thought the vote made sense. I mean last phase it seemed people just wanted a lynch so why now are you questioning that vote.

It's not EoD1, and he provided zero original reason for voting that slot.
And thus far he's shown a lack of effort to form reads on anyone in game, and with that, no town motivation.
And you definitely just defended him on sheeping, because that's exactly what he did and you denied it.

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Gwendolly said:
Allthough I didn't like it that lucian did control the lynch after all like Sleip mentioned.

I controlled the lynch, yes. I also tried to help town by giving them an actual out to a D1 lynch.

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Live mafia is today? I'll check it out.


But the sheeping was and or is bound to happen do you not understand that, you realll think 8 people are all going to agree on a lynch. Some will be the follows while others the leaders.

Question then do you think this means abu is scum? Also I defend alot of people so what does that say about my alignment?


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Btw I am not implying we should just ignore the followers, I'm just sayings its bound to happen from both town and scum.


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Shinichi-Kun said:
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looks like it didn't bother you at all


Well most people expected that outcome, salmon even vanished during that last hour he prob knew it wouldn't go through either.
He can very well react on his own
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Vote: AbuHumaid

Why are you sheeping me? Expecting I was going to pick up where I left off?
there's no better lynch now imo, we need a lynch asap. Also how am i sheeping you but the people who jumped on Red's train not sheeping you?

Ya, idk know whats up with the sheep term being thrown around so much this game. Also "No better Lynch" do you not believe my train had legitmate reasoning?
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AbuHumaid said:
@Zymf can you explain the L1 and L2 stuff to me? I didn't get it

You place those after your vote if the train is almost near its target! Which is currently 8, so if your the 6th person to vote the train you place L-2 after your vote so people know the train only needs 2 more votes to lock on, and if lets for say your the 7 person voting on that train you would place L-1, so everyone knows that the train only needs one more vote to be locked in. It gives clarity so that people dont accidentally seal someones fate that they didnt mean to.
blinddate
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aa-dono said:
I'm baaack. It's gonna take me some time to catch up
Glad to hear that!
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and if you’d meet her
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