Jackrito said: Lam-B said: Guna jump in koz I can, it should be bad if that's your only fall-back. His stance on a few things should be apparent by this point and if those aren't enough to factor in with more weight I'd be concerned. Also I doubt he'd be ballsy enough to try that kind of shit on you of all people. Fair points and I agree he would not be ballsy enough to try that with me, what are the stances that you are referring to though. His stance regarding his proper posts in regards or reaction to most important factors that have occurred throughout this phase so far. Most should have been obvious enough to spot when he's picking away at each as they happened, he's actually done more than I expect of him already. As worrying as too early a read on yourself from particular players is..... it shouldn't hold that much weight unless they've done next to nothing else. |
Lam-B said: Jackrito said: Fair points and I agree he would not be ballsy enough to try that with me, what are the stances that you are referring to though. His stance regarding his proper posts in regards or reaction to most important factors that have occurred throughout this phase so far. Most should have been obvious enough to spot when he's picking away at each as they happened, he's actually done more than I expect of him already. As worrying as too early a read on yourself from particular players is..... it shouldn't hold that much weight unless they've done next to nothing else. Ok I see what you mean now, based off his other posts from memory I would say it is more of a town read since he is normally more passive as scum. I do worry with how he is voting for pressure then letting off so easily like he did with Karote since it achieves little. It makes them look busy but this is perhaps their way to scum hunt I think their increase in activity as you put it is down to frustration to recent town records. Which gives me a overall townread The only reason I brought that up because if anyone else did it I would not read into it, but he has said before he would never townread me easily so this view is different from the norm. |
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Qoco said: PentaFlare said: Vote: Qoco Did your comments about lie detectors help you determine anything about other player's alignments? If not, can you tell me something you are thinking about someone else's alignment? I'm seeing someone who is just happy to let mechanics take care of every thing from you and that is usually the people who mechanically have a night kill. Well, I'm not a lie detector so I can't tell you if it served any good, less in the same phase that people lied in. If there is a lie detector then I guess we'll find out together later ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Can you give me a read on someone based on something else then? |
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Grapefruit21 said: @PentaFlare you seem really confident that you can read Coelstien in a late game situation, how much experience do you have with them? I've successfully read her once or twice while I was town, maybe? Most of my experience playing with her has been ToS, Skype Mafia, and the Resistance. I'm sure instilling coincidence in my ability, aren't I? :P |
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Jackrito said: And you think you have not provide enough proof for that vote on Ruu?aa-dono said: Why would it be strange if I trust you? Isn't it stranger that I call you out on a vote that I agree with? Based on my history I don't expect anyone to trust me without proof, you also know I have a habit of bussing my team so agreeing with my vote but not the fact I did it makes sense to me. I would rather people call me out like as well. |
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PentaFlare said: Grapefruit21 said: @PentaFlare you seem really confident that you can read Coelstien in a late game situation, how much experience do you have with them? I've successfully read her once or twice while I was town, maybe? Most of my experience playing with her has been ToS, Skype Mafia, and the Resistance. I'm sure instilling coincidence in my ability, aren't I? :P Inspiring tons of confidence. What in particular makes you think you can? Is there a particular tell or do you just think you have a good grasp on her play? @Shinichi-Kun I think grrr is scum more than I think you are scum. If I had two votes you'd have one of them though <3 @Lam-b I forget why you tagged me, I'll go back for it in a bit because mobile sucks. @Coelestin I'm still seeing Lucian as a town lean. Confidence doesn't always mean town but I haven't seen many scum come in making that sort of a splash and I think it makes him more likely town than scum. As for my read on logic as town has this ability to tunnel and focus in on things that aren't alignment indicative at all and get completely side tracked by them. Often sparked by misreading something. In his scum game he did the same thing, but never really based on misreading. The fact that he carelessly misread something and pushed on it makes me think he's town. |
PentaFlare said: Grapefruit21 said: @PentaFlare you seem really confident that you can read Coelstien in a late game situation, how much experience do you have with them? I've successfully read her once or twice while I was town, maybe? Most of my experience playing with her has been ToS, Skype Mafia, and the Resistance. I'm sure instilling coincidence in my ability, aren't I? :P Well you are better working them out then me based off that. She is one of the players I have most trouble working out. |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: And you think you have not provide enough proof for that vote on Ruu?Based on my history I don't expect anyone to trust me without proof, you also know I have a habit of bussing my team so agreeing with my vote but not the fact I did it makes sense to me. I would rather people call me out like as well. I meant more proof of my own alignment. on Ruu I think they are scum but worried I'm falling into the trap of tunnel vision. I don't have a lot of town exp with them and I let them live in last game when I scumread them and got burned for it. So my concern is I'm been biased atm. |
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CorruptedPurity said: Is that really my scum meta? I think I tunneled pretty good every day. Grapefruit21 said: Logic was super emotional as scum in alcatraz? I pretty strongly disagree with that meta read. Good vibes, but I know Jack is fully capable of fooling me. If you were a day cop who would you check right now? Was he? I know you were emotional but he was pretty collected and pretended to not tunnel, to be objective etc... Suzune D2 got the most town read townie into a claim situation before the whole Claire claiming situation happened grrr D3 with the whole miller claim Grapefruit D4 which I still don't know how I won Your meta on me seems of glad grapefruit picked up on it. I was also very emotional that game but because I knew they we on me for the wrong reasons. Like the Rosie Double voter thing and grapefruit saying I had learned her role. So now I have to ask why paint me in this light when you know that isn't what happened? |
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Jackrito said: , This is a weak tell but when scum in the past Lucian has normally not directly reacted to me, but he has done this game.It is not enough to change my read all the way since it is possible he is just a confident scum now or this is something that is not even real ,and was just a coincidence when he was scum rather then a tell. Still added with their late scum game flawsit is enough for me to leave them for now. Yeah, very weak tell, but I've heard you mention that before. Ehh. aa-dono said: Jackrito said: While I don't disagree with this vote, it doesn't sit well with me when it's you who made it haha.Based off Ruu's last post moving my vote there. Still not sure on Lucian but I feel like I can work them out later and they did something which I was not expecting which has gave me doubt. Still not a fan of this Grr train since I feel Grr is less troll as scum and more serious all this role stuff I can't see him doing when scum because it brings too much attention with little info. Vote Ruu Would it have sit well with you if I had done it? Cause I would've if Jack wouldn't have done it. Grapefruit21 said: To the thread in general there seems to be a current running through of ohhh that's not scum that's just bad town. While it might be true in some cases here it's a dangerous attitude to have and makes it harder to win. It also enables poor play in general. True dat. Doesn't mean we should only focus on them though like in the beginning. Grapefruit21 said: PentaFlare said: I've successfully read her once or twice while I was town, maybe? Most of my experience playing with her has been ToS, Skype Mafia, and the Resistance. I'm sure instilling coincidence in my ability, aren't I? :P Inspiring tons of confidence. What in particular makes you think you can? Is there a particular tell or do you just think you have a good grasp on her play? @Shinichi-Kun I think grrr is scum more than I think you are scum. If I had two votes you'd have one of them though <3 @Lam-b I forget why you tagged me, I'll go back for it in a bit because mobile sucks. @Coelestin I'm still seeing Lucian as a town lean. Confidence doesn't always mean town but I haven't seen many scum come in making that sort of a splash and I think it makes him more likely town than scum. As for my read on logic as town has this ability to tunnel and focus in on things that aren't alignment indicative at all and get completely side tracked by them. Often sparked by misreading something. In his scum game he did the same thing, but never really based on misreading. The fact that he carelessly misread something and pushed on it makes me think he's town. lol. Penta knows how to identify good Chichi but he has no clue how to find bad Chichi cause both Chichi's are crude perfectionists :P What do you say to the reasoning of Jack and CorruptedPurity on townEDIT: scum reading Luce then? They didn't perceive his first posts as confidence but more panic. |
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Qoco said: Was he town or scum that that game though. If you aren't going to give us that then why is this information relevant to this game?Grapefruit21 said: Wut? Are you saying this to confirm he's emotional as town? Like what the actual hell is the point of that? Bagging someone like that isn't exactly relevant to the game. I don't know if he's emotional as town. I've only played one game with him. I just felt that he was going to cry. |
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LucianRoy said: logic340 said: So you have 2 RVS votes (that amount to basically nothing) and a vote from aa-dono which is a question more than anything else in your opinion and you feel that that train is worth going through more than grrr's? That doesn't make any sense to me. Also I said here could be scum on the grrr train and I am voting my scum read. I have 4 reasons and a question in that read with my vote. Why not give me your take on Lam and my vote on him? Lets not get hung up on grrr for the whole day just did that in a game D1 and I caused a no lynch due to it. I'm saying my train is super janky, and janky trains are likely to have scum on them. The train i'm leading is much much much less janky, and is less likely to have scum on it fmpov. Like, people are still voting me from RVS. it aint chill. Lamb did his early game bait and switch schtick, or at least, I'm expecting some kinda switch once he gets on later. Standard stuff really, nothing struck me as overtly scummy. I feel like your vote was too reactive to what Lamb laid down. kinda jumpy in a way that took any kind of bait. I concur with chione about it sounding more bias-y than meta-y. Like, so far it seems like standard lamb stuff. @aa-dono Alright, so I went looking for a post of substance myself and realized just how much of what Lucian has been posting is Information Instead of Analysis. This post is a good example. He says the train on him is janky. He has explained this with mention of the RVS votes and how your vote is more of a question, but with the one vote that has substance, Jack's, he is dismissive. He stated that it seemed paranoid and that everything Jack saw as scummy could also be townie, but he didn't analyze his actions to show the townie. He's just stating things that are either factual, or that are subjective and not explaining them. Also, when saying the train he is leading isn't janky, hw doesn't really explain why either. Be has said that grapefruit's vote isn't biased and stuff like that, but hasn't explained any of it. Is there anything you have found that I missed? |
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Grapefruit21 said: PentaFlare said: I've successfully read her once or twice while I was town, maybe? Most of my experience playing with her has been ToS, Skype Mafia, and the Resistance. I'm sure instilling coincidence in my ability, aren't I? :P Inspiring tons of confidence. What in particular makes you think you can? Is there a particular tell or do you just think you have a good grasp on her play? I think votes are usually her biggest tell, but that is kind of a blanket statement that can be applied to almost anyone. In the past I've townread her too much for saying things I agree with. She is good at analyzing posts as scum too. I don't think it will be a problem this game since I'm aware of it, but we'll see how I do. |
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Ruu said: What makes you so certain of this?Penta, Karote, Grape, Logic and Chione <--- There is scum hiding in this group for sure. |
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Coelestin said: [quote=Jackrito lol. Penta knows how to identify good Chichi but he has no clue how to find bad Chichi cause both Chichi's are crude perfectionists :P I know how to identify bad Chi! You do that thing with your shoulders when someone is falsely accusing you but you are rigid if they are right! |
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Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. |
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aa-dono said: From my PoV his presence is minimal compared to others as I had kind of forgot he was here. For me he's always someone who stands out and as my former mason brother someone I have an admitted bias towards (though less now than before). I generally get a read on him early, as stated he isn't always shot out of a cannon but he's pretty memorable. I haven't seen that this game though I admit it may just be due to all the other large personalities in this game. Outside of his case on grrr I really couldn't remember much of what he had done to that point but he was garnering suspicion (which is what reminded me he was in the game)?@logic340 #443 - I don't see how Grape has minimal presence. Him having a clear read should make his presence more known if anything :/ If both Grape and CP lack presence for you, why did you choose to sort Grape first? I know you pride yourself on being hard to read but I hope to continue my streak of calling your alignment right. |
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PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? |
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Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. |
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Ruu said: LucianRoy said: Too scummy to be scum isn't a thing. That's called out-guessing yourself. That's called playing yourself. I'm thinking of scum!grrr playstyle, that's why I don't think he would behave like this if he was indeed scum. I've play with him when he rolled scum and he doesn't like to be on the spotlight. When he does this that means that he got jester or VT (wants to get lynch or starts fake claiming cause he is bored). <- And @grrr that's what I am, let's see if you understand. I dont : D |
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Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? What makes the grrr train bad? Is your town read of grrr so strong that you think he should be obv town to me? I'm willing to vote elsewhere to ensure a lynch (I would vote for Ruu, Shinichi, and could maybe be talked into Karote and a few others), but I see a strong train on grrr and would rather see where some of the nowhereland voters go before abandoning it. And to your earlier point that we shouldn't exclusively focus on people not really playing but I needed to get that off my chest. It just annoys me. As for Jack and CPurity's takes I think CPurity's is actively wrong and I can't figure out if it's just RVS not being CPurity's favorite part of the game or if it's scum trying to push. So much of it claims to be from the POV of Lucian being super serious about his push on Ruu to start the game, and I don't know what to make of that given he hopped off of it early. As for Jack I can't actually find the post where he discussed Lucian's entry to see what his exact thoughts were, but I still have town feelings towards him. They have definitely sagged a bit with aa-dono's previous post that pointed out how much of Lucian's post isn't content but I can't shake my town read. I'm trying to sort through my bias and see how much of it is based on him voting grrr with me. Anyway long story short before I go to bed willing to lynch: grrr, ruu, Shini, >>>>, Karote, CPurity, and >>> Rosie and Qoco (for lurking/lack of content). Never lynching: logic, Penta, or Coelestin based on behavior today. |
Karote said: Coelestin said: Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. |
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logic340 said: Ruu said: What makes you so certain of this?Penta, Karote, Grape, Logic and Chione <--- There is scum hiding in this group for sure. I mean they said in the post that it was about position on wagons and they were going to look in to behavior. I get that isn't the strongest reason (I think it's incredibly worthless without a flip) but they did give a reason. BTW this is the sort of misreading thing I was talking about earlier. Not trying to offend you logic, just trying to show others what I mean. Do you have a top three town and scum at this point? Who would you day cop right now? I think I can add Jack to my never lynch today pool, but I need to remember not to throw myself too eagerly into people's pockets... Been burnt too many times now... But still never lynching today, just have to actually reset tomorrow. |
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Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? Ya bruh, straight on, I'm also onto CP. Real talk though, my "OK-to-lynch" list for today only consist of Ruu and logic. While I am wary of Lucy, I would prefer to keep him alive first as he could be town and he's good at scumhunting if he's truly town. I once again repeat that an investigative role should check him out. Logic is based off my apparently wrong meta read, but I do think I can sense frustrated town logic, and it didn't show this game when he had a train lead. Ruu is ok up there because the posts she made seemed off and scummish, that ISO on Lucy derailed alot, it went from scumreading him to almost townreading him and then it included 5 ppl who are not Lucy, like ISO is meant to be an isolation, why are others involved? And the nature of which she presented them: "<- One of this must be scum" just seemed off and more like scum than town to me. I don't like a grrr lynch, grrr is ya know, grrr, so let the grrr be a grrr until the point where it he starts causing trouble then maybe I'll look more into him, because doing so now is a waste of my time That said... Vote: Ruu |
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Lam-B said: More proof, More proof! Lamb reads me like a blind man reads a normal book. If he think I am scum, then I must be town! :3cOyasumi_Rosie said: Good luck good luck. I have lost every game voting for him first and I plan to keep this streak going Yo, I haven't seen a single game in which you came close to being a town-read, though I don't think I've seen you as scum. If you could chose not throwing instead, that'd be cool too. |
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Lam-B said: GRRR!! level tag/mention. You can consider it as such, but you shouldn't.... as it isn't their focus or intended result, statements surrounding the matter are more than enough at this stage. If only we knew the intended result too bad that spoil the fun |
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Lam-B said: Shinichi-Kun said: Serously since their is tpr im not gonna play ur jester esque game grrr i refuse, Context/elaborate? and why is jesto even mentioned? They don't exist. Idk if there is one of not but its possible with the way hes playing |
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Lam-B said: Shinichi-Kun said: unvote well i got all i can get from u, you answered all my questions anyways atleast keep an eye on grrr cause i dont want another kitty mafia RIP there's the Chad. LOL nothing else i could really get from karote he evened everything i asked of him |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Nothing jack has done so far has made me see him as anything other than town As for karote it pretty much gave me the responses i wanted and actually tok the effort to answer every question so i have a slight town read on him. Is it bad I scum read you for this, you never have read me as town before this early, I have had confirmed role claims and still been doubted. Not sure how answering questions is a town read it would be pretty bad and obv not to, a scum would want to look helpful. So not really getting that read. U dont have to its only a slight town read for now Also what lol so because im actually town reading ucant trust me? |
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Lam-B said: GRRR!! level tag/mention. You can consider it as such, but you shouldn't.... as it isn't their focus or intended result, statements surrounding the matter are more than enough at this stage. I understand what ya mean here its just weird how much effort hes putting into the roles than he normally does in the first place |
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Ruu said: Roy is going back to my neutral list but I'm leaning town now. What I think is: scum is either the first or the second person that follow his lead (Penta/Karote/ Grape). If a townie gets lynched people will go after the first or last person to vote for them, nobody cares about the second voter or the 3rd one in a 5 vote train. Is the perfect place to hid! Wrong scum are most likely to either start the train or hide in the middle. Scum would never bother to be the last vote of a train. |
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Jackrito said: Do you want them to vote you here, or are you thinking they have not voted. Which you have not done atm. Just a challenge, since i don't see anything wrong with what i did with grrr. Trying to understand how he can think thats actually scummy. Do we live in a world where people arent allowed to change their minds? |
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Lam-B said: Jackrito said: Fair points and I agree he would not be ballsy enough to try that with me, what are the stances that you are referring to though. His stance regarding his proper posts in regards or reaction to most important factors that have occurred throughout this phase so far. Most should have been obvious enough to spot when he's picking away at each as they happened, he's actually done more than I expect of him already. As worrying as too early a read on yourself from particular players is..... it shouldn't hold that much weight unless they've done next to nothing else. Getting a compliment from lamb o.O are u scum lol? On a serious note jack normally posts something i dislike which happened 90% during the first day phase, this time around i have seen no such post which is why im giving him a small town read compared to other games where i almost always fight with him/scum read him within like the first 24 hours of a game. |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: And you think you have not provide enough proof for that vote on Ruu?Based on my history I don't expect anyone to trust me without proof, you also know I have a habit of bussing my team so agreeing with my vote but not the fact I did it makes sense to me. I would rather people call me out like as well. he just likes being scum read i guess haha logic340 said: I could see Chione and potentially Jack but why Karote? He's doing what he does every game which make him Neutral since the behavior is NAI. more of my own presonal read because karote actually for once responded to me properly without trolling me |
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Grapefruit21 said: @Shinichi-Kun I think grrr is scum more than I think you are scum. If I had two votes you'd have one of them though <3 Oh how thoughtful lol So u think grrr is worth lynching day 1? |
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Grapefruit21 said: To the thread in general there seems to be a current running through of ohhh that's not scum that's just bad town. While it might be true in some cases here it's a dangerous attitude to have and makes it harder to win. It also enables poor play in general. Look I might be wrong on Grrr (I don't think I am) and I get that people have fun in different ways and not everyone wants to be all analytical all the time, but the pendulum can swing to far towards accepting unhelpful play and it makes the game feel like a crap shoot. /rant I am well aware of that prob more so than others, but even if grrr is acting weird which i agree he is doing more so than his other games, i rather wait till day phase 2 to see what else he has to provide or atleast until he gives us a better reason on why he wants information that wouldnt help town in the slightest |
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logic340 said: Qoco said: Was he town or scum that that game though. If you aren't going to give us that then why is this information relevant to this game?I don't know if he's emotional as town. I've only played one game with him. I just felt that he was going to cry. theinformation is irrelevant in general if anything its just a small meta read but nothing strong enough to ping a person as scum. |
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Ruu said: THIS IS ISO @LucianRoy Lucy First thing is our rvs votes. Complete fluff imo but he turned them into an actual discussion. At the time I saw this as a way to get me scum read by others and getting a mislynch early on; now I can see it actually help town getting out of rvs. Some odd stuff related to this actions: he overreacts imo after only getting two rvs votes. It makes NO SENSE. He then talks about me being scum because of my vote and my fluff post pre-game. You think too highly of myself if you think I can go for a tactic like that. Also CP probably didn't know that you already have a vote. I never check the vc before posting an rvs (seriously who does?). My votes gives you bad vibes, I'm probably scum because I'm voting for you, people should follow you and vote for me.... all this little things seemed like a red flag atm. Your overreaction was surprising to at the least, and it was my main reason to keep my vote later on. (Before you come after me let me tell you all that I kept my vote at first because it didn't do any harm, later, after rereading the thread I didn't change it because of this) Q: why were you townreadig penta and Karote (#73)? The only reason you have was because they followed you... that's the weakest excuse ever. People really take Rvs seriously around here. Whatever happened to all the bullshitting we used to do? I thought it was canon. Me saying my train felt town was to counter any dissent, and work out of rvs. I personally thought I was being kinda sillly. LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: For rvs maybe but an early train regardless is normally really sketchy My train feels town. I mean, I had to have a halfway decent reason, otherwise 2 other people wouldnt have voted with me. Dunno why CP is sheeping ruu. In #142 you say you are not scum reading me anymore, can you explain what made you change your mind? It would probably help to understand I never really fully scumread you in the first place. Yeah, I got bad vibes n all from your early game, so I rolled with it and pushed hard, but I made it seem larger than life to get out of rvs. Roy is going back to my neutral list but I'm leaning town now. What I think is: scum is either the first or the second person that follow his lead (Penta/Karote/ Grape). If a townie gets lynched people will go after the first or last person to vote for them, nobody cares about the second voter or the 3rd one in a 5 vote train. Is the perfect place to hid! That sounds like a bit o fallacy. Penta, Karote, Grape, Logic and Chione <--- There is scum hiding in this group for sure. howja gamesolve that? you sure work fast. |
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PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: [quote=Jackrito lol. Penta knows how to identify good Chichi but he has no clue how to find bad Chichi cause both Chichi's are crude perfectionists :P I know how to identify bad Chi! You do that thing with your shoulders when someone is falsely accusing you but you are rigid if they are right! lol Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? is it even wise to try pressuring new people 7 hours before phase change? I ust dont wanna come back to a messy phase change since i will be missing it. |
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