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| also there is no "side characters" in this arc its literally fiore vs zerefs army and fairy tail doesnt have a god slayer :/ |
Morcombe said: I got Volume 52 of the manga recently and these are quotes from Mashima's afterword at the end of the book. "Maybe this will even lead to the final battle with Zeref" "The enemy boss charcaters are also the 12 strongest characters in the history of this series" there's also a bit of talk about how 12 spriggan was too many but "there's a bit of a secret reason for it, so we finally decided on leaving it at 12" So under these quotes I assume that this is our final arc afterall menaing that these are our final "boss" characters and if so then i want to know why is Mashima rushing them so much, if these are our final battles they should be more than just 1 or 2 chapters per fight. hopefully whatever the secret reason is for having 12 will be good. Volume 52 ends with chapter 446 and the preview for volume 53 says "Ragnarok the final battle begins" which would be teh current battle that we're all reading right now. So yeah now with Acnologia even showing up, this is probably fairy tail's final arc. well i wouldn't say its the last tho... "ANKSEHRAM" remember the god who curse zeref.. (IMO) and who knows if this will also be final between acnologia.. and also zeref is like madara in naruto whom almost everyone thinks hes the final boss to face but it turns out that hes just a fluke.. |
| Acnologia aside, there's been foreshadowing that Wendy would save Erza at some point this arc too, so it was pretty much a done deal that she wouldn't be giving up her magic -- it's possible she'll help in the Neinhart battle too depending on how strong he is. The whole thing was pretty sad though. Now that Chelia is gone Wendy is the sole healing / support mage in the series. I only wonder how she'll grow with the guilt of Chelia sacrificing her magic to save her on her mind. |
| Why and how would Anksehram be the final villain? What would make him get involved in a way other than cursing the person like Zeref or just outright killing them like Mavis? |
| I feel like this is becoming predictable now. Who didn't see Cheria taking 3rd origin instead of Wendy so Wendy can still use her healing abilities and then Cheria basically 1 shotted Dimaria after being attacked by a god only 1 time. Dimaria, an op character and another spriggan overhyped and used as fodder again. I am still enjoying the story, but these fights are pitiful. |
AllenNoah said: Why and how would Anksehram be the final villain? What would make him get involved in a way other than cursing the person like Zeref or just outright killing them like Mavis? Well there is END (maybe if Zeref is killed the book vanishes along with him), Zeref's unresolved issue of wanting to die, maybe its Natsu's way to say thank you for life to Zeref by killing Ankersahm, saving Mavis from the curse of contradictions. It could be anyone of those options, if you think about it Ankersahm is pretty much an indirect main antagonist. Not sure if he is chaotic evil or chaotic neutral (just playing out the role of a god and smiting people who defy laws of life/death). I honestly believe Ankersahm will be the last boss, and this whole following Zeref is just a stepping stone to somehow save Natsu from an indirect tragedy without them knowing it yet (until of course they are all clued in about END). If you remember, love may be the one magic to and as we saw that did not pan out well for Mavis and Zeref, so this might have to be an issue with a higher up being. Another hypothesis could be that Ankersahm wants to somehow destroy Natsu for being in this world when he shouldn't be, but is just still toying with Zeref, Mavis, and Natsu until he gets bored. There is many options to go with Ankersahm being the last boss, again Zeref is just a tragic character, I just don't really see him being the ultimate bad guy here and the last enemy they must face, thats just me though. |
Chaos_Harbinger said: aneheim said: well i wouldn't say its the last tho... "ANKSEHRAM" remember the god who curse zeref.. (IMO) and who knows if this will also be final between acnologia.. and also zeref is like madara in naruto whom almost everyone thinks hes the final boss to face but it turns out that hes just a fluke.. Tbh, Acnologia resembles Madara more. -Both have same hairstyle -Both are terrifyingly powerful -Both want a good fight -Both are/were (respectively) considered by many to be the final villain Except Acnologia doesn't want to fight at all. He simply wants to destroy Zeref and Natsu and fly away. He's a recluse and doesn't like to be bothered with. He stays as far away from humanity as he can |
AllenNoah said: Why and how would Anksehram be the final villain? What would make him get involved in a way other than cursing the person like Zeref or just outright killing them like Mavis? Forgetting the countless innocents that lost their lives because he cursed Zeref aren't we? Mildean was razed off the map and you still think he's not a final Villain? |
| Knew that it was going to be Chelia...tough for moment thought that it actually was going to be Wendy. Goodbye Young Ultear...and Chelia's Magic... and That was confirmation to all that Ultear did Not die when she caste the spell and her old woman appearance was just a spirit...Some reason some People actually tough that. |
| Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill "Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods "Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece)) |
Darklight0303 said: AllenNoah said: Why and how would Anksehram be the final villain? What would make him get involved in a way other than cursing the person like Zeref or just outright killing them like Mavis? Forgetting the countless innocents that lost their lives because he cursed Zeref aren't we? Mildean was razed off the map and you still think he's not a final Villain? Oh...this became like this huh...good Point tough about him (her?) being Final Boss. |
| Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill "Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods "Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece)) |
| On topic this chapter was pretty average and I am expecting Chelia to get her magic back And as someone pointed out before the Spriggans are being bested insanely fast. It's fairy clear to say Mashima is really rushing to get to the good stuff which should've just had 5 Spriggans or none at all Also why should Ankhseram be the last villain? He was only briefly mentioned. I don't want another Kaguya. Leave Ankhseram as a god to not be fucked. It's Zeref's fault for messing with life and death anyway. He disrupted the natural order according to Ankhseram so he pays the price |
TheGrandSage23Mar 7, 2016 11:19 AM
TheGrandSage23 said: On topic this chapter was pretty average and I am expecting Chelia to get her magic back And as someone pointed out before the Spriggans are being bested insanely fast. It's fairy clear to say Mashima is really rushing to get to the good stuff which should've just had 5 Spriggans or none at all Also why should Ankhseram be the last villain? He was only briefly mentioned. I don't want another Kaguya. Leave Ankhseram as a god to not be fucked. It's Zeref's fault for messing with life and death anyway. He disrupted the natural order according to Ankhseram so he pays the price Say that to the people who feared him and yet STILL end up dying just cause ONE guy broke a taboo. He could have punished Zeref in countless ways to avoid razing a town of HIS believers just to prove a point. That's the same as the army nuking a city for a PURSE snatcher Ankhseram is a dick who fits the final villain role just fine. |
Darklight0303Mar 7, 2016 11:40 AM
| ANNNND another character gets ruined for sake of asspull saving FT character. For a moment I thought it is not working and that Lucy appeared out of nowhere and this would be 5/5 chapter, but nope, that was just chance for Mashima to draw adult Chelia, before she is wasted as plot device for Wendy. Can't have anything bad happen to based ft characters. And then another spriggan goes out in ABSOLUTELY anti-climatic fashion AGAIN. Another "god" got punched out lol, despite the fact that dragonslayers could do jackshit against dragons. Can this "arc" just end already? This is already as bad as GMG or Avatar arc. 2/5 |
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| Ultear activating Third Origin on Sherria. A God Slayer finally managed to defeat a God. Dimaria seems to be defeated at the expense of Sherria losing her magic. Wendy healing Carla. A little glimpse on Granny Ultear at the end. Off to the next battle. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| I agree that the fight could've been better but I really appreciate the fact that a non fairy tail member defeated a spriggan and they had to sacrifice something huge for it. Props to you chelia. |
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| 12 Spriggan + Mavis = 13 zodiac keys? Are Spriggans that lost dead? Maybe Zeref has something in store for them when they die? Spriggans seem so weak. I know they don't fight in fair 1 vs 1 fights but they still look weak. Sherria is going to be full time model in few years and maybe work with Mira in FT part time. I really want Mira to discover some of Chronos leftover power in Sherria and use it to develop new soul takeover. Poor Wendy. Not only did she get hole in her leg, she is also responsible for turning Sherria into normal human. |
SleepnDreamn said: 12 Spriggan + Mavis = 13 zodiac keys? Are Spriggans that lost dead? Maybe Zeref has something in store for them when they die? Spriggans seem so weak. I know they don't fight in fair 1 vs 1 fights but they still look weak. Sherria is going to be full time model in few years and maybe work with Mira in FT part time. I really want Mira to discover some of Chronos leftover power in Sherria and use it to develop new soul takeover. Poor Wendy. Not only did she get hole in her leg, she is also responsible for turning Sherria into normal human. Mira only works with DEMON SOULS. SHe can't do squat with god soul |
| As if Hiro didn't dedicate a page to give us a full-body shot of the transformation. Hopefully Hiro keeps Sherria's sacrifice intact like he has with Ultear's. 3/5 |
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| I never wanted this... |
| RaveDidItBetter/10 |
Chaos_Harbinger said: aneheim said: well i wouldn't say its the last tho... "ANKSEHRAM" remember the god who curse zeref.. (IMO) and who knows if this will also be final between acnologia.. and also zeref is like madara in naruto whom almost everyone thinks hes the final boss to face but it turns out that hes just a fluke.. Tbh, Acnologia resembles Madara more. -Both have same hairstyle -Both are terrifyingly powerful -Both want a good fight -Both are/were (respectively) considered by many to be the final villain I really am not into hairstyle.. I also said that it was just my opinion, If i remember correctly and correct me if im wrong but i think the first "grand boss" to mention in the series was zeref.. AllenNoah said: Why and how would Anksehram be the final villain? What would make him get involved in a way other than cursing the person like Zeref or just outright killing them like Mavis? Well its Hiro Mashima after all so anksehram to be the final villain is a possibility.. (im gonna say this once more, this is just my opinion so dont go jumping out on me).. |
Dask said: But it wasn't though...Yet another one hit KO. Boring.. Can we get a real fight please? |
G_Spark233 said: deus ex mashima thas a good one pretty predictable fight. Onto the next powerful Spriggan that'll probably take 2 chapters to take out |
Tokoya said: adapatations are not supposed to be carbon copies of source materials and until the anime community in general can accept that and judge an anime based on what it presents and how they handle every episode, these threads will continue to be filled with hate posts by purists |
| Not particularly surprised that Sherria ended up being the only target of Third Origin. No way was Wendy gonna lose all her magic now. Nevertheless, still enjoyed the chapter. Once we get to a lower Spriggan count, I'm hoping the fights end up being a bit more immersive. With 12, it was already gonna be difficult to hold a high level of intensity for a lengthy duration for all the fights. All Spriggans (and their fights) aren't equal, hopefully. |
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| Ultear is still a granny after all....*sigh*, I was hoping that god spriggan would fight Mira, but oh well.... |
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| I'm not that really bothered about Sherria losing her powers, I'm more bummed about the fact that we won't be seeing the sexy Ultear again... |
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| I enjoyed Sherria's.... Body development. (✿ᇴ‿ᇴ) And I enjoyed the fight, and Fairy Tails motto lives on, love. |
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trump54 said: Why did dimarra think Celia was bluffing Also was the pOWERe up really necessary? Wendy is much stronger then Celia. Together they could have taken dimarra down. Dimarra seemed to have only 1 attack. She is suppose to be 1 of the strongest mages in history of the novel, but once again that is due to game breaking power rather then true skill exp,. With a title like war princess I would think she be a master swordsman and fours on that, time magic should be her trump. In reality she is not stronger then Kagura, or Ezra. I bet Ezra has a sword that can cut through time or something lol Well, in the Key of Starry Sky Arc (referenced in the manga so I consider it canon), Erza gained a weapon that made her and anyone hit by it immune to time manipulation, so...yeah. Granted it was more about time perception than time stoppage, but I wouldn't put it past Hiro to just outright make her immune. |
phantmleader said: TheGrandSage23 said: Except Acnologia doesn't want to fight at all. He simply wants to destroy Zeref and Natsu and fly away. He's a recluse and doesn't like to be bothered with. He stays as far away from humanity as he can Except in Future Rogues timeline (which closely (but not exactly) follows the current timeline) Acnologia rules the world... So, he doesn't exactly want to be left alone anymore, pretty much about to rule the world (or would, since we all know it won't happen in this timeline) implying logic makes sense in FT. "Gray was destined to do this horrible thing in the future and we did nothing to prevent it but he wont do it I guess he because euhh, FRIENDSHIP YEAH" |
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| I'm glad Wendy can still use magic and Sherria is ok with not being a wizard anymore. Now I'm ready for Natsu to wake up! |
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| "People die when they are killed" - Emiya Shirou |
| Hiro actually said on a page of the Volume 52 that there's a reason behind there being 12 Spriggans instead of 5 or 6 and he even said the editor argued with him about that number being way too much. I dont know how to react to that, one way is me thinking "whelp, then I guess only 4 or 5 Spriggans are actually going to be something, the rest are fodders". Other way is that all of the Spriggans are still alive and are going to be relevant to something later on. Overall I don't know about how to feel with those fights, not sure if Hiro really changed his style of fights or he's doing it on purpose only to make the Spriggans return later on. I mean, even if you say that all of the Spriggans fight so far have been logic, they still felt way too underwhelming comparing to fights of previous arcs and judging by the Spriggans reputation alone they should be having fights much more epic. To be honest any hype I've had for the Spriggans fight died on this one, I don't really look foward to Neinhart fight even though we have Jellal,Erza and Kagura against him, I only look foward to his personality. |
| Poor Chelia, felt bad for her this chapter, that look she gave towards the end made me kinda sad/bittersweet. |
-ZET- said: Hiro actually said on a page of the Volume 52 that there's a reason behind there being 12 Spriggans instead of 5 or 6 and he even said the editor argued with him about that number being way too much. I dont know how to react to that, one way is me thinking "whelp, then I guess only 4 or 5 Spriggans are actually going to be something, the rest are fodders". Other way is that all of the Spriggans are still alive and are going to be relevant to something later on. Overall I don't know about how to feel with those fights, not sure if Hiro really changed his style of fights or he's doing it on purpose only to make the Spriggans return later on. I mean, even if you say that all of the Spriggans fight so far have been logic, they still felt way too underwhelming comparing to fights of previous arcs and judging by the Spriggans reputation alone they should be having fights much more epic. To be honest any hype I've had for the Spriggans fight died on this one, I don't really look foward to Neinhart fight even though we have Jellal,Erza and Kagura against him, I only look foward to his personality. Honestly, with the exception of Invel and August (both of whom I am cautiously optimistic about now), I think all the Spriggans I had interest in have been taken out or just ended up being rather disappointing. Maybe it'll turn around later, but I feel like there just not portrayed as menacing or even as interesting as some of the other villains. I guess it comes down to a lack of tension. The inevitability that the Spriggans are going to be insignificant and only used to hold until Zeref and Acnologia get involved (as demonstrated with Serena). |
| They can easily give her magic back, by just pointing out that since it was all of her future magic, in a timeline where she would of lost and died because of the battle, that it was only the time from then, till when she bled out and died that she absorbed the magic from, and everything returns to normal after that time is passed. It should reasonable be something like 5 minutes, but I could see them passing it off as a week of her bleeding out to keep her powerless longer. |
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trump54 said: Do you think the 12 spriggan will fill in as sacrifices to open a new gate of some sort Instead of using lucy, Mabry Yukino instead will take that place, and have to sacrifice herself. After zeref flashback we know lucy is destined to have all 12 keys eventually I really really hope the Spriggans are going to be relevant to something later on and make a huge/epic move worthy of their reputation otherwise I'm just done with this series, there's no way I'll be able to take anything serious after this huge disappointment I'm having with the 12 right now. Just imagine, this arc ending and another villain group appearing with even less hype the 12 had...yep not worth at all. I really think it's possible to Hiro put the 12 Zodiac spirits here, he already put almost everything he had on this arc you know, but right now, we need more information about what Zeref is doing, he hasn't done anything other than just marching with a portion of his army and Invel. AllenNoah said: Honestly, with the exception of Invel and August (both of whom I am cautiously optimistic about now), I think all the Spriggans I had interest in have been taken out or just ended up being rather disappointing. Maybe it'll turn around later, but I feel like there just not portrayed as menacing or even as interesting as some of the other villains. I guess it comes down to a lack of tension. The inevitability that the Spriggans are going to be insignificant and only used to hold until Zeref and Acnologia get involved (as demonstrated with Serena). This was a problem I've remember thinking about it back when I saw Acnologia destroying Serena. Will the Spriggans really do any heavy damage to Ishigar with Acnologia still being around? The only answer I get in my head is "NO, the Spriggans won't do anything major against them because Ishigar still have to deal with Acnologia in the end, no way Hiro will make Zeref or Mavis deal with Acnologia alone and I doubt the 7 DS can deal with him right now. I really think it was wrong to put him in the same arc as the 12 and Zeref, but I also am positive that Hiro knew about that and thus he has this "Secret" behind the 12. Overall, I'm very disappointed, the Spriggans right now look nothing special at all, sure they have some OP magic but how is that anything different than Bluenote back in Tenrou Island, the guy had an incredible spell at the time but he didn't do anything major at all, sure the guy who took him down was none other than Gildarts himself but still, Hiro just dumped him like that, the Spriggans might not be so different compared to him at all. What I hoped in the beginning was the 12 being some kind of next level Oracion Seis, where they aren't just crazy people wanting to destroy everything, they're just being misguided and in the end aren't that bad at all, but that dream is fading away very quickly with the recent chapters. Spriggans that I "look foward to" are Neinhart, August,Braddman/Bloodman and of course the other 2 who are still unknown. |
-ZET-Mar 9, 2016 6:37 PM
| Personally I was hoping to see more important sub-generals and powerful guilds. I mean this is supposed to be a continent consisting of over 700 guilds, and you mean to tell me that there are only twelve important/powerful mages? And one's from Ishgar anyway, so in fact you only have 11. |
| Sometimes I think Hiro is high/drunk, he barely focus on other Ishigar guilds and now he just announce were having a war with overall 700guilds, not to mention he never even finished introducing the other wizard saints. |
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