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Dec 9, 2015 7:06 PM
#101
| I could careless, I'm just interested in the story. |
Dec 9, 2015 7:22 PM
#102
| Maybe because like 80% if all anime characters are gigantic monster tits, and are generic and annoying. |
Dec 9, 2015 7:36 PM
#103
Aug 4, 2020 7:05 AM
#104
| For me Because it's cute But there is another reason for you another people that I can't argue with that. It's Justice |
Aug 4, 2020 9:04 AM
#106
| Flat girls are just so cute! Also, they look so innocent. Girls with cowtits look like sluts, and girls with flat chests look so modest and girly. Oh and don't get me started on Pettankos, literally the cutest thing ever. |
Aug 4, 2020 9:16 AM
#107
| I usually like girls with normal size breasts or big breasts. I don't like girls with ridiculously big breasts though. But at the end of the day, personality matters the most. |
Aug 4, 2020 10:00 AM
#108
| This is the worst thread I've seen on MAL lmfao |
| This anime shit is addictive |
Aug 4, 2020 11:25 AM
#110
ExTemplar said: Most flats associated with loli. They are pedos. Please tell me this is a joke, because if not, this kinda shit seriously needs to stop....Liking fictional lolis doesn't automatically make someone a pedo anymore than being a furry means you want to sex actual animals...For fucks sake people... |
Aug 4, 2020 11:42 AM
#111
olajuwon20 said: This is pretty much my thoughts on the subject. So yeah, bigger is better but personality matters. If I think a character is physically attractive but has a crap personality it makes them less attractive.I usually like girls with normal size breasts or big breasts. I don't like girls with ridiculously big breasts though. But at the end of the day, personality matters the most. |
Adimus_primeAug 4, 2020 11:47 AM
Aug 4, 2020 12:18 PM
#112
| Idk, I just find cowtits disgusting. My mom has big tits and I'm just glad I don't find that attractive - I always assume people who are into cowtits are little mommy's boys who enjoy mom-son incest porn because by the time I started getting into porn I had already see so many older women with huge tits (not naked of course, just my mom and her friends, teachers, mothers of friends etc..) that I couldn't help but associate big tits with that kind of mental image of an older, motherly woman. And I could never think of that as something sexy, something attractive - it makes me throw up in my mouth just writing about it in that context. And porn hasn't really done much to weaken that association - with terms like MILF emphasizing the 'mother' part and the age part and most big tiddie porn being about older women or extremely fake tits that just look like plastic and probably taste like it as well. Not to mention anime and hentai, which does even more disgusting things with big tiddies - like nipple penetration or growing them to sizes that are not just unappealing, but downright monstrous and disgusting. It all tells me that people who like big tits are probably wired completely differently than me because I don't even find any of the fetish-periphery around big tits remotely attractive. I'm more likely to enjoy a scat hentai (because I like anal and doujins about anal unfortunately often include scat) than something with cowtits because nothing even remotely related to big tits is attractive to me - and I find Scat about as disgusting as your average guy. But aside from the psychological reason why I can never find big tits attractive, there is also the aesthetics and texture. I just prefer firmness over a watery, wobbly texture and like it when the nipples look at me instead of hanging to the ground. It's just a better look as far as I'm concerned. There is literally not a single aspect of big tits that I find appealing or arousing. Grabbing smaller, firm tits is just much more enjoyable and aesthetically pleasing to look at, plus it's built to last longer without falling apart. And the nipples also tend to be sexier in smaller tits, I can't stand huge areolas which are very common in cowtits. Absolutely no tits, like a child or a man is also not particularly attractive to me, but it also doesn't appall me nearly as much as giant cowtits do. Flat is neutral, simply the absence of anything attractive - and in a secondary way attractive because it singals youth (not pedop youth, just youth in general, before tits start to sag) while cowtits signal old age and breastfeeding, neither of which I find attractive. Most people find youth more attractive than old age, that's just in our genes and I'm just playing my part in the statistics. Small, perky tits are the best, mid-sized ones can also be delicious if they stay firm, but the bigger they get the more disgusting they look to me - they become softer, less firm, gravity is not doing them good, they are associated with MILFS/mothers/breastfeeding which makes me throw up a little in my throat. What is there to like, unless you have a specific fetish for older women and mother figures? For me, nothing. FanofAction said: ExTemplar said: Most flats associated with loli. They are pedos. Please tell me this is a joke, because if not, this kinda shit seriously needs to stop....Liking fictional lolis doesn't automatically make someone a pedo anymore than being a furry means you want to sex actual animals...For fucks sake people... My favorite part about these brainless moralfags is that they just jump ahead a few steps, ignoring logic or common sense, because they're so eager to do their worthless virtue signaling (this is one of the only contexts where I actually think the term is an accurate description). Nevermind the mental gymnastics it takes to conclude that enjoying something in a virtual, fictionalized context automatically means you want to do the exact same thing irl (which is easily disproven to anyone with half a brain by pointing to gamers or a lot of other fetishes (eg. rape fetish)). The real mental gymnastics is people immediately assuming that preferring flatter bodytypes has to be exclusive to lolis. I think people like that are probably so deep down the anime rabbit hole, so far removed from reality and actual women that they forget that many, if not the majority of adult women do not have cowtits either, especially not before they start breastfeeding. In their world every adult woman has huge tits and anything that doesn't fall into that category has be an elementary schooler. That's what anime has taught them, and that's what they choose to believe. Or idk how else they would come to the conclusion that not liking cowtits and preferring smaller ones must mean that you have no interest in adults. That definitely takes a certain... worldview. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Aug 4, 2020 1:08 PM
#113
crudetruth said: Pullman said: Idk, I just find cowtits disgusting. My mom has big tits and I'm just glad I don't find that attractive - I always assume people who are into cowtits are little mommy's boys who enjoy mom-son incest porn because by the time I started getting into porn I had already see so many older women with huge tits (not naked of course, just my mom and her friends, teachers, mothers of friends etc..) that I couldn't help but associate big tits with that kind of mental image of an older, motherly woman. And I could never think of that as something sexy, something attractive - it makes me throw up in my mouth just writing about it in that context. And porn hasn't really done much to weaken that association - with terms like MILF emphasizing the 'mother' part and the age part and most big tiddie porn being about older women or extremely fake tits that just look like plastic and probably taste like it as well. Not to mention anime and hentai, which does even more disgusting things with big tiddies - like nipple penetration or growing them to sizes that are not just unappealing, but downright monstrous and disgusting. It all tells me that people who like big tits are probably wired completely differently than me because I don't even find any of the fetish-periphery around big tits remotely attractive. I'm more likely to enjoy a scat hentai (because I like anal and doujins about anal unfortunately often include scat) than something with cowtits because nothing even remotely related to big tits is attractive to me - and I find Scat about as disgusting as your average guy. But aside from the psychological reason why I can never find big tits attractive, there is also the aesthetics and texture. I just prefer firmness over a watery, wobbly texture and like it when the nipples look at me instead of hanging to the ground. It's just a better look as far as I'm concerned. There is literally not a single aspect of big tits that I find appealing or arousing. Grabbing smaller, firm tits is just much more enjoyable and aesthetically pleasing to look at, plus it's built to last longer without falling apart. And the nipples also tend to be sexier in smaller tits, I can't stand huge areolas which are very common in cowtits. Absolutely no tits, like a child or a man is also not particularly attractive to me, but it also doesn't appall me nearly as much as giant cowtits do. Flat is neutral, simply the absence of anything attractive - and in a secondary way attractive because it singals youth (not pedop youth, just youth in general, before tits start to sag) while cowtits signal old age and breastfeeding, neither of which I find attractive. Most people find youth more attractive than old age, that's just in our genes and I'm just playing my part in the statistics. Small, perky tits are the best, mid-sized ones can also be delicious if they stay firm, but the bigger they get the more disgusting they look to me - they become softer, less firm, gravity is not doing them good, they are associated with MILFS/mothers/breastfeeding which makes me throw up a little in my throat. What is there to like, unless you have a specific fetish for older women and mother figures? For me, nothing. FanofAction said: ExTemplar said: Most flats associated with loli. They are pedos. Please tell me this is a joke, because if not, this kinda shit seriously needs to stop....Liking fictional lolis doesn't automatically make someone a pedo anymore than being a furry means you want to sex actual animals...For fucks sake people... My favorite part about these brainless moralfags is that they just jump ahead a few steps, ignoring logic or common sense, because they're so eager to do their worthless virtue signaling (this is one of the only contexts where I actually think the term is an accurate description). Nevermind the mental gymnastics it takes to conclude that enjoying something in a virtual, fictionalized context automatically means you want to do the exact same thing irl (which is easily disproven to anyone with half a brain by pointing to gamers or a lot of other fetishes (eg. rape fetish)). The real mental gymnastics is people immediately assuming that preferring flatter bodytypes has to be exclusive to lolis. I think people like that are probably so deep down the anime rabbit hole, so far removed from reality and actual women that they forget that many, if not the majority of adult women do not have cowtits either, especially not before they start breastfeeding. In their world every adult woman has huge tits and anything that doesn't fall into that category has be an elementary schooler. That's what anime has taught them, and that's what they choose to believe. Or idk how else they would come to the conclusion that not liking cowtits and preferring smaller ones must mean that you have no interest in adults. That definitely takes a certain... worldview. Cowtits and flat are two ends of the extreme, I prefer somewhere in the middle. Disliking flat doesn't mean i'm into cowtits. I don't know who you are but thanks for telling me, I guess? But I wasn't really talking to anyone specific... |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Aug 4, 2020 1:14 PM
#114
| @Pullman You mentioned gamers and I think that does bring up an interesting point in all this. Many, MANY people have defended violent video games or violent media in general whenever some brainless sheep spouts some bullshit about the direct link from violent behavior to said media. But these same exact people do a fucking mental 180 when it comes to topics like this. Essentially becoming the same kind of fucking idiot they were just arguing against. It's the same fucking argument people...And it's really sad when a fucking idiot like me has to point this shit out.. |
FanofActionAug 4, 2020 1:21 PM
Aug 4, 2020 1:16 PM
#115
| idk whats wrong with flat chested girls tbh, I like them flat and big. Bonus Fact: The artists make flat chested girls so beautiful and cute and their personality shines, most of the time... |
Aug 4, 2020 1:34 PM
#116
FanofAction said: @Pullman You mentioned gamers and I think that does bring up an interesting point in all this. Many, MANY people have defended violent video games or violent media in general whenever some brainless sheep spouts some bullshit about the direct link from violent behavior to said media. But these same exact people do a fucking mental 180 when it comes to topics like this. Essentially becoming the same kind of fucking idiot they were just arguing against. It's the same fucking argument people...And it's really sad when a fucking idiot like me has to point this shit out.. People seem to judge sexual things in a different way to non-sexual things. Take something like GTA for example, a game in which you play as a criminal and kill plenty of people. You can kill innocent people outside of missions purely for amusement and you can do so in a variety of nasty ways. The game has faced minor opposition but there have never been any serious moves to ban it and it's one of the best selling game series of all time. Now imagine if in the next GTA game there was a single mission where you raped someone. There would be a huge outcry, the game would most likely get banned, and the companies involved would all face boycotts. It's a strange situation as generally, based on the legal repercussions for such crimes, society does seem to deem murder a worse crime than rape (as in standard sentences for murder are longer than those for rape). |
| The criteria I use when rating shows is on my profile. |
Aug 4, 2020 1:57 PM
#117
Hughsie said: FanofAction said: @Pullman You mentioned gamers and I think that does bring up an interesting point in all this. Many, MANY people have defended violent video games or violent media in general whenever some brainless sheep spouts some bullshit about the direct link from violent behavior to said media. But these same exact people do a fucking mental 180 when it comes to topics like this. Essentially becoming the same kind of fucking idiot they were just arguing against. It's the same fucking argument people...And it's really sad when a fucking idiot like me has to point this shit out.. People seem to judge sexual things in a different way to non-sexual things. Take something like GTA for example, a game in which you play as a criminal and kill plenty of people. You can kill innocent people outside of missions purely for amusement and you can do so in a variety of nasty ways. The game has faced minor opposition but there have never been any serious moves to ban it and it's one of the best selling game series of all time. Now imagine if in the next GTA game there was a single mission where you raped someone. There would be a huge outcry, the game would most likely get banned, and the companies involved would all face boycotts. It's a strange situation as generally, based on the legal repercussions for such crimes, society does seem to deem murder a worse crime than rape (as in standard sentences for murder are longer than those for rape). This I understand. I just don't get the thought process behind it. Even if you take violence and crime out of the equation though, there's still a fair amount of double standards when it comes to sexualization. You can show man ass all day everyday and still get a pg13 rating. But just hint of female nipple, bam, instant rating increase. This translates over to cartoons as well, even kids cartoons, with the only stipulation being it be used purely for comedic effect. Thus technically not "sexualizing" the situation. So this shits just all over the place... |
Aug 4, 2020 2:06 PM
#118
| Because I like loli, it's not hard to understand |
| Dropping your favorite show |
Aug 4, 2020 2:06 PM
#119
FanofAction said: This I understand. I just don't get the thought process behind it. Even if you take violence and crime out of the equation though, there's still a fair amount of double standards when it comes to sexualization. You can show man ass all day everyday and still get a pg13 rating. But just hint of female nipple, bam, instant rating increase. This translates over to cartoons as well, even kids cartoons, with the only stipulation it be used purely for comedic effect. Thus technically not "sexualizing" the situation. So this shits just all over the place... The reality is that most people's positions on these things don't stand up to logic at all. People are influenced by those around them and "taught" what to think. Rape and (possibly) sexual content are controversial topics and the narrative has become that any kind of portrayal of them glorifies them and is bad, because that's the dominant narrative people take it in and it becomes their own opinion. There has never really been much controversy around murder and violence so the narrative never changed in the same way. It's the same with disparities in male and female nudity/sexualisation. Women's rights and how they were portrayed in the media became a controversial topic, therefore there was heightened scrutiny of female nudity/sexualisation and the narrative shifted to seeing it as bad. People then simply took this on and "learned" to view it as bad. Men's rights and portrayals have never been as controversial, or faced such scrutiny, therefore the narrative has never been changed in the same way. If people actually had the desire/ability to objectively assess their own biases and try to correct them then these inconsistencies may be leveled out, I wouldn't expect that to happen any time soon though. |
| The criteria I use when rating shows is on my profile. |
Aug 4, 2020 2:08 PM
#120
Aug 4, 2020 2:28 PM
#121
FanofAction said: @Pullman You mentioned gamers and I think that does bring up an interesting point in all this. Many, MANY people have defended violent video games or violent media in general whenever some brainless sheep spouts some bullshit about the direct link from violent behavior to said media. But these same exact people do a fucking mental 180 when it comes to topics like this. Essentially becoming the same kind of fucking idiot they were just arguing against. It's the same fucking argument people...And it's really sad when a fucking idiot like me has to point this shit out.. I've thought about this a lot and I'm pretty sure the reason for that is because sexuality plays such an important role for human identity, especially these days. Unlike other aspects of personality, other things we desire or enjoy, what you like sexually (your sexual orientation in the widest sense) is seen as a defining part of your personality that penetrates every other area of your life. This could be a long sidestep to get to my point because it requires explaining (or rather un-explaining) a bunch of concepts, but bear with me. It starts with the concepts of hetero- and homosexuality being so dominant in our culture. In many older cultures they didn't exist in this form and instead there was a more fluid ideo of 'homoeroticism'. It's probably best to just quote and link the wikipedia article because it's pretty on-point. Homoeroticism is sexual attraction between members of the same sex, either male–male or female–female. The concept differs from the concept of homosexuality: it refers specifically to the desire itself, which can be temporary, whereas "homosexuality" implies a more permanent state of identity or sexual orientation. It is a much older concept than the 19th-century idea of homosexuality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoeroticism The idea that a person can be either gay or hetero was pretty foreign, desires could just come and go but not define you in a permanent way like we do today with all our labels for sexual orientations. What I'm trying to say is that in a society like that it wouldn't cross people's mind to assume that what they masturbate to is a defining part of their personality, or signals any kind of exclusive and permanent interest in it. However the whole way we think about sexuality is heavily biased towards that kind of mindset. The same logic now applies to other aspects of our sexuality, not just homo/heterosexuality. Those are just two labels we know for sexuality, but we all know there are many more based on other criteria than what sex we are attracted to. And I think that's why people treat lolicons so differently than violence or killing in video games. For shooting and killing people we don't have these strong labels. We accept that most people, occasionally, get angry, feel like they want to kill someone, need stress relief and it's fine to do that in a context where no harm is done - like a video game. We see these things, these desires, this enjoyment as something temporary and almost noone would assume that wanting to hurt people is a deeply rooted part of your personality just because you occasionally snap or throw a tantrum. Of course there are exceptions (anger issues etc...) but for the most part we don't see temporary violence or anger as indicative of a deeper rooted personality issue - especially when it's let out in a context like gaming instead of irl. People simply treat killing/hurting people as a (bad) action, and even if you enjoy it in a game it's obvious to most people that you just temporarily channel that side of you during the game because you know no harm is done in that context. Like any reasonable person would. We all have it in us, which is why gaming (or sports) are so successful. It's basically common sense at this point. But when it comes to lsexuality our 'common sense' looks very differently. People don't really look at 'fapping to lolis' (for example) as just an action or a temporary desire that you channel in a context where it does zero harm to have some fun with it - like people do with killing in video games. Instead they see it as a symptom of something deeper - your sexuality, which is part of your personality, part of your identity, part of who you are as a human. That's why they immediately jump to conclusions. It's not even really their fault, it's the way we are conditioned to think about anything that relates to sexuality in our society, not to see actions as isolated moments in time, desires as a temporary thing we can channel and indulge in in the right context, but only ever as symptoms of something deeper that defines us as a person. Personally I know that's not how fapping or sexuality works, at least definitely not for me. Lolis aren't even the worst of it, there's a ton of stuff that I've fapped to that would not give me a boner at all irl. I have a very strong separation between the act of fapping and fantasizing about something and my actual, real life sexual comfort zone, so I learned all of this through my own experiences, realizing that a lot of the 'common sense' about sexuality is bogus. But I imagine that a person who never ever faps to anything they don't also want to do irl, whose entire life is just defined by one, steady, unchanging sexual impulse, might have a hard time wrapping their head around the concept, because society as a whole and our language align perfectly with their own experiences so there's no reason to every question the dominant logic. tl;dr: We live in a society. But seriously, I feel this is a bigger reason for why people are so jugmental regarding lolis and why they don't accept the distinction between fantasy/game and reality like they do with video games. It does take some mental effort to overcome the ways in which our sexual language biases us towards making assumptions about the permanent, identity-giving powers of temporary sexual desires. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Aug 4, 2020 2:57 PM
#122
Pullman said: FanofAction said: @Pullman You mentioned gamers and I think that does bring up an interesting point in all this. Many, MANY people have defended violent video games or violent media in general whenever some brainless sheep spouts some bullshit about the direct link from violent behavior to said media. But these same exact people do a fucking mental 180 when it comes to topics like this. Essentially becoming the same kind of fucking idiot they were just arguing against. It's the same fucking argument people...And it's really sad when a fucking idiot like me has to point this shit out.. I've thought about this a lot and I'm pretty sure the reason for that is because sexuality plays such an important role for human identity, especially these days. Unlike other aspects of personality, other things we desire or enjoy, what you like sexually (your sexual orientation in the widest sense) is seen as a defining part of your personality that penetrates every other area of your life. This could be a long sidestep to get to my point because it requires explaining (or rather un-explaining) a bunch of concepts, but bear with me. It starts with the concepts of hetero- and homosexuality being so dominant in our culture. In many older cultures they didn't exist in this form and instead there was a more fluid ideo of 'homoeroticism'. It's probably best to just quote and link the wikipedia article because it's pretty on-point. Homoeroticism is sexual attraction between members of the same sex, either male–male or female–female. The concept differs from the concept of homosexuality: it refers specifically to the desire itself, which can be temporary, whereas "homosexuality" implies a more permanent state of identity or sexual orientation. It is a much older concept than the 19th-century idea of homosexuality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoeroticism The idea that a person can be either gay or hetero was pretty foreign, desires could just come and go but not define you in a permanent way like we do today with all our labels for sexual orientations. What I'm trying to say is that in a society like that it wouldn't cross people's mind to assume that what they masturbate to is a defining part of their personality, or signals any kind of exclusive and permanent interest in it. However the whole way we think about sexuality is heavily biased towards that kind of mindset. The same logic now applies to other aspects of our sexuality, not just homo/heterosexuality. Those are just two labels we know for sexuality, but we all know there are many more based on other criteria than what sex we are attracted to. And I think that's why people treat lolicons so differently than violence or killing in video games. For shooting and killing people we don't have these strong labels. We accept that most people, occasionally, get angry, feel like they want to kill someone, need stress relief and it's fine to do that in a context where no harm is done - like a video game. We see these things, these desires, this enjoyment as something temporary and almost noone would assume that wanting to hurt people is a deeply rooted part of your personality just because you occasionally snap or throw a tantrum. Of course there are exceptions (anger issues etc...) but for the most part we don't see temporary violence or anger as indicative of a deeper rooted personality issue - especially when it's let out in a context like gaming instead of irl. People simply treat killing/hurting people as a (bad) action, and even if you enjoy it in a game it's obvious to most people that you just temporarily channel that side of you during the game because you know no harm is done in that context. Like any reasonable person would. We all have it in us, which is why gaming (or sports) are so successful. It's basically common sense at this point. But when it comes to lsexuality our 'common sense' looks very differently. People don't really look at 'fapping to lolis' (for example) as just an action or a temporary desire that you channel in a context where it does zero harm to have some fun with it - like people do with killing in video games. Instead they see it as a symptom of something deeper - your sexuality, which is part of your personality, part of your identity, part of who you are as a human. That's why they immediately jump to conclusions. It's not even really their fault, it's the way we are conditioned to think about anything that relates to sexuality in our society, not to see actions as isolated moments in time, desires as a temporary thing we can channel and indulge in in the right context, but only ever as symptoms of something deeper that defines us as a person. Personally I know that's not how fapping or sexuality works, at least definitely not for me. Lolis aren't even the worst of it, there's a ton of stuff that I've fapped to that would not give me a boner at all irl. I have a very strong separation between the act of fapping and fantasizing about something and my actual, real life sexual comfort zone, so I learned all of this through my own experiences, realizing that a lot of the 'common sense' about sexuality is bogus. But I imagine that a person who never ever faps to anything they don't also want to do irl, whose entire life is just defined by one, steady, unchanging sexual impulse, might have a hard time wrapping their head around the concept, because society as a whole and our language align perfectly with their own experiences so there's no reason to every question the dominant logic. tl;dr: We live in a society. But seriously, I feel this is a bigger reason for why people are so jugmental regarding lolis and why they don't accept the distinction between fantasy/game and reality like they do with video games. It does take some mental effort to overcome the ways in which our sexual language biases us towards making assumptions about the permanent, identity-giving powers of temporary sexual desires. This actually clears a lot of things up for me. My problem is...I have thoughts...And those thoughts make me question things that don't make sense to me. And in doing so I generally don't think about most of the stuff you just mentioned. All the things throughout the years that's conditioned people to act and think the way they do. |
Aug 4, 2020 4:00 PM
#123
| i like asian girls flat faces. they look like plates. f*cking hot! |
| :v |
Oct 31, 2020 9:46 PM
#125
| These people are PROBABLY loli lovers. like what ya like, I like smaller tiddies tbh, but it's really pedos who fetishize flat. |
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