JD2411 said: Donger_Senpai said: ad hominem as usual, eh donger?You almost had me until I realized who was posting. Seriously you probably need a new account to b8 people with. You might be able to just change your username, profile pic / avatar, and about me to be able to b8 people if you don't want to lose your post count. |
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Donger_Senpai said: and a non sequitor too? you sure are generous todayJD2411 said: ad hominem as usual, eh donger? You might be able to just change your username, profile pic / avatar, and about me to be able to b8 people if you don't want to lose your post count. |
Donger_Senpai said: Except when you come off the computer you still have to go to school the next day.Dawkins said: I wasn't really, I just wanted to post a funny comment with an important lesson - that being bullied online is still a serious issue that can ruin someones life. >cyberbullying let the meme die already. It doesn't fucking exist. [img]http://funnyand.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Cyber-Bullying.jpg[/ig] |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
Dawkins said: Except when you come off the computer you still have to go to school the next day. if it's people from school who are bullying you online then it counts as bullying in real life. Saying it's cyberbullying would be like saying if somebody from your life calls you to bully you it's different then bullying IRL. JD2411 said: ]and a non sequitor too? you sure are generous today You know, sometimes I toy with the notion that you might be serious when you post. But then I convince myself that nobody could possibly be this ignorant and arrogant. |
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| ugh I really hate bullying. I respect people who can do things and get somewhere in life without having to be mean or put people down. |
Donger_Senpai said: So are you saying cyberbullying is only ever from someone who doesn't know you? if it's people from school who are bullying you online then it counts as bullying in real life. Saying it's cyberbullying would be like saying if somebody from your life calls you to bully you it's different then bullying IRL. I'd say it could be someone who's held a grudge against you and decides to try and ruin you online as well. Sure you don't ever have to meet them but what if my close friends or family see something I don't want them too? That could lead to bullying. What if I'm put on the deep web by someone I don't know, what if my personal details are hacked, what if I'm swatted by the police while live streaming? |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
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Dawkins said: I'd say it could be someone who's held a grudge against you and decides to try and ruin you online as well. They could have easily ruined you in many other areas. Furthermore you can post anonymously so people don't associate you with what that person did to "ruin" you as well. Sure you don't ever have to meet them but what if my close friends or family see something I don't want them too? Tell them somebody was pulling a joke to make fun of you. They will understand. If they don't they are becoming the bully in real life and again we have an instance of real life bullying. What if I'm put on the deep web by someone I don't know, What do you mean you're put on the deep web? You mean pictures of you are put on the deep web or just your personal info? I don't get what you're trying to ask here. what if my personal details are hacked, 1.your fault for not using a proxy / vpn 2. They likely won't use them for anything other than to scare you with, and if they do anything to you in real life, again it becomes an instance of real life bullying. what if I'm swatted by the police while live streaming? this is an oddly specific scenario and I'm not sure what the point of asking this is. |
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| I was harassed a bit on my first highschool year, but I wouldn't call it bullying because they never touched me or insulted me often. I did some wrong things too, so I wasn't a saint either. I just hope for bullied people here that they can get out of it :(. Cheers~ |
| Sadly, I have. Not now but when I was younger mostly due to being short and quiet, so I was an easy target to pick on. As a result, I'm very empathetic towards victims of it as I have felt their pain before. Seeing someone else getting bullied is one of the only things that'll make me visibly angry. I would definitely say it has shaped me to become a lot more protective and respectful of others because I would never even think of harassing someone else. |
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Dawkins said: Cyber bullying doesnt depend on who does it, it depends on where it's done. it's pretty likely someone can use a mix of cyber and in rl bullying. If they just keep it online it's just cyber bullying, but if they take it to school too then it's in rl bullying as well.Donger_Senpai said: So are you saying cyberbullying is only ever from someone who doesn't know you? if it's people from school who are bullying you online then it counts as bullying in real life. Saying it's cyberbullying would be like saying if somebody from your life calls you to bully you it's different then bullying IRL. I'd say it could be someone who's held a grudge against you and decides to try and ruin you online as well. Sure you don't ever have to meet them but what if my close friends or family see something I don't want them too? That could lead to bullying. What if I'm put on the deep web by someone I don't know, what if my personal details are hacked, what if I'm swatted by the police while live streaming? |
Dawn said: Dawkins said: Cyber bullying doesnt depend on who does it, it depends on where it's done. it's pretty likely someone can use a mix of cyber and in rl bullying. If they just keep it online it's just cyber bullying, but if they take it to school too then it's in rl bullying as well.So are you saying cyberbullying is only ever from someone who doesn't know you? I'd say it could be someone who's held a grudge against you and decides to try and ruin you online as well. Sure you don't ever have to meet them but what if my close friends or family see something I don't want them too? That could lead to bullying. What if I'm put on the deep web by someone I don't know, what if my personal details are hacked, what if I'm swatted by the police while live streaming? again, if somebody from your life is bullying you online it is no different than getting bullied in real life. They are the same thing. 50 years ago they didn't have a separate term for when somebody from your life called you on the phone and bullied you. I might just be being pedantic here though. |
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| Never been bullied, as I was too stubborn and physical to let them get away with it. Punching them In the gutter usually spelled out my position on their shit. My careless attitude and manner of disrespecting all my upperclass men because they demanded respect usually ended In neat chase sequences. I have rarely run as fast as then. Did help out one rather chubby guy who was being bullied once. |
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Donger_Senpai said: And that would be physical bullying. Online they don't have to reveal themselves so you could never know who is messing with you. The difference is you're suggesting you can be bullied without knowing who's bullying you. They could have easily ruined you in many other areas. Furthermore you can post anonymously so people don't associate you with what that person did to "ruin" you as well. Donger_Senpai said: I was suggesting they would post a picture or video of something you've done or had done to you, not just spreading a rumour.Tell them somebody was pulling a joke to make fun of you. They will understand. If they don't they are becoming the bully in real life and again we have an instance of real life bullying. Donger_Senpai said: This ties in with the anonymous aspect of the internet. There are dangerous sites on the deep web designed specifically to show everyone whatever pictures and details belong to someone, such as address, phone number etc.What do you mean you're put on the deep web? You mean pictures of you are put on the deep web or just your personal info? I don't get what you're trying to ask here. With all of my examples you can turn off the computer if you want but that doesn't stop the bullying. Donger_Senpai said: Not everyones technically minded for that. 1.your fault for not using a proxy / vpn 2. They likely won't use them for anything other than to scare you with, and if they do anything to you in real life, again it becomes an instance of real life bullying. As for point two that's just your opinion on what cyberbullying entails. I follow this meaning: "Cyberbullying is an action of harming or harassing via information technology networks in a repeated and deliberate manner." Donger_Senpai said: I've seen various youtubers get harrassed plenty of times, and for many youtube is their income. They should have the right to choose how they make their money so saying quit youtube isn't an option here. this is an oddly specific scenario and I'm not sure what the point of asking this is. The insults are usually ignored or comments turned off but some fans go too far and call armed police to their house. |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
Donger_Senpai said: Dawn said: Cyber bullying doesnt depend on who does it, it depends on where it's done. it's pretty likely someone can use a mix of cyber and in rl bullying. If they just keep it online it's just cyber bullying, but if they take it to school too then it's in rl bullying as well. again, if somebody from your life is bullying you online it is no different than getting bullied in real life. They are the same thing. 50 years ago they didn't have a separate term for when somebody from your life called you on the phone and bullied you. I might just be being pedantic here though. most of the times I've seen the term cyber bullying be used it was referring to a situation where someone you knew in rl bullied you online. The definition of cyber bullying is even "the use of electronic communication to bully a person, typically by sending messages of an intimidating or threatening nature." These days it can be a bit hard to divide a relationship between strictly in rl or strictly online mainly because of things like social media. if you've interacted with someone you met online once or a few time in rl does that make it an in rl friendship or is it still online? it's confusing to categorize things in that way, but categorizing it using the medium for communication is a lot simpler because there isnt really a gray area between communicating with someone using the internet or communicating with them physically in rl. |
Dawkins said: Donger_Senpai said: And that would be physical bullying. Online they don't have to reveal themselves so you could never know who is messing with you. The difference is you're suggesting you can be bullied without knowing who's bullying you.They could have easily ruined you in many other areas. Furthermore you can post anonymously so people don't associate you with what that person did to "ruin" you as well. 2 guys come up to you with masks on. You can't see their face or tell who they are but they both beat the shit out of you. This event continues once a week for a year. Is it bullying? Donger_Senpai said: I was suggesting they would post a picture or video of something you've done or had done to you, not just spreading a rumour.Tell them somebody was pulling a joke to make fun of you. They will understand. If they don't they are becoming the bully in real life and again we have an instance of real life bullying. I know what you were suggesting and I feel I responded appropriately. Donger_Senpai said: This ties in with the anonymous aspect of the internet. There are dangerous sites on the deep web designed specifically to show everyone whatever pictures and details belong to someone, such as address, phone number etc.What do you mean you're put on the deep web? You mean pictures of you are put on the deep web or just your personal info? I don't get what you're trying to ask here. With all of my examples you can turn off the computer if you want but that doesn't stop the bullying. Except that for all intents and purposes it does. If it will never affect you in real life than it is irrelevant that it is happening online. I could be getting "bullied" by people on some website that I've never been to before right now. You could be too. Donger_Senpai said: Not everyones technically minded for that. 1.your fault for not using a proxy / vpn 2. They likely won't use them for anything other than to scare you with, and if they do anything to you in real life, again it becomes an instance of real life bullying. If you're not knowledgeable enough to use a proxy or vpn you shouldn't be using the internet in the first place. I don't use one normally because I don't really do anything sketchy but it's very easy to do. As for point two that's just your opinion on what cyberbullying entails. I follow this meaning: "Cyberbullying is an action of harming or harassing via information technology networks in a repeated and deliberate manner." Actually the meriam-webster definition is "cyberbullying noun cy·ber·bul·ly·ing ˈsī-bər-ˌbu̇-lē-iŋ, -ˈbə- Definition of CYBERBULLYING : the electronic posting of mean-spirited messages about a person (as a student) often done anonymously". The meaning you follow is irrelevant as far as the actual definition is concerned. Donger_Senpai said: I've seen various youtubers get harrassed plenty of times, and for many youtube is their income. They should have the right to choose how they make their money so saying quit youtube isn't an option here. this is an oddly specific scenario and I'm not sure what the point of asking this is. You've seen the swat team break into various youtuber's houses when streaming? That's pretty interesting do you mind saying which youtuber's it was? Because that is what your original quote was about. The insults are usually ignored or comments turned off but some fans go too far and call armed police to their house. that's IRL bullying. Not cyber bullying. |
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Donger_Senpai said: Yes. I was concerned with you taking issue with two different names for bullying. If you can't rectify the problem by turning off your computer and the results from other people is bullying it makes sense to call it cyberbullying. That category helps people find the source of the bullying while also punishing the bullies themselves. 2 guys come up to you with masks on. You can't see their face or tell who they are but they both beat the shit out of you. This event continues once a week for a year. Is it bullying? Donger_Senpai said: That depends what the video is. You can say someones pulling a joke on you but your friends will still see what's on the video and judge accordingly. I know what you were suggesting and I feel I responded appropriately. Donger_Senpai said: I see what you're saying honestly. But you think if a comment online does effect me either directly or indirectly then it suddenly becomes a bane to label it something other than regular bullying. That's what it's really about yeah? I just think the opposite, for school kids it helps authority figures much more if they know whether the comment was online or in person. Otherwise how would they differentiate something like a direct name calling to a rumour spread by someone unknown across the playground or school?If it will never affect you in real life than it is irrelevant that it is happening online. I could be getting "bullied" by people on some website that I've never been to before right now. You could be too. Donger_Senpai said: I heard you can do it when you get banned on mal, if it's the same thing I'm thinking of that lets you bypass. If you're not knowledgeable enough to use a proxy or vpn you shouldn't be using the internet in the first place. Donger_Senpai said: Dawn got a different dictionary definition that implies it bullies the person. the electronic posting of mean-spirited messages about a person (as a student) often done anonymously". And how do the police track down the swatters? They search for those involved in the cyber harrassment. Of course it's irl bullying as well, hence why I said it's no joke on my first post. |
Trance said: I'm a guy and I can imagine buttfucking another guy. I don't find the thought repulsive, and I can even imagine kissing another man. |
| there's bullying that effects you in real life, and then there isn't. End of story. Cyber bullying is a meaningless subcategory of bullying. If it affects your life it is bullying, and if it doesn't than it is not bullying. Since harassment that occurs exclusively on the internet does not affect your it is not bullying. If it does affect your life at the fault of another person (another words not just because somebody said something and you got sad) it is bullying. I also don't believe in verbal bullying either. It might just be semantics at this point so it would probably be best to discontinue this argument. |
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| Some classmate tried to bully me IRL but that ended with me breaking his hands and me getting suspended and reported to police. As far is cyberbullying, i've never experience that. |
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| Look, I know it's fun to flex muscles on the internet and all but when you're at grade school and are afraid of going because this guy brings his older friends to beat you up... It's not fun. |
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| There was this stout girl that bullied me in elementary. I was scared that she would sit on me and i would die from asphixiation |
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| Most of us have been bullied. It's just something you deal with and move on and not something you dwell in. Get over it. That picture is cringe-worthy. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Look, I know it's fun to flex muscles on the internet and all but when you're at grade school and are afraid of going because this guy brings his older friends to beat you up... It's not fun. To be fair, I think there's a good chance that a lot of the people on this site have been bullied at some point. It's just conjecture based on my intuition though. |
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| Yeah I was for a period when I was in 6th grade My old school shut down and I had to take my last year of elementary school in a different one, which just so happened to have a class half-filled with fuckheads |
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| @OP Take your cringe pics back to FB. RL Just a little bit in elementary school. I got over it. Cyber I go to /a/. |
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| Noup. I was never bullied in any way. Most kids in my class in elementary were afraid of bullying me (because parents taught me how to fight boys, lol), and later in middle and high school bullying wasn't so 'popular'. It was almost non existent, especially in HS. |
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| I realised how strong the effect could be if you experienced something nasty at a young age. When I was 7, I was bullied by this smart ass kid. She would threaten to poke me(I was scared I was 7) and ask me to do her "bidding". In one incident she poked me so deep that it bled out and I cried in front of the class. When I grew up, 18 now, I realised I'm always giving in or scared of punishment/consequences. Though being scared made me be obedient and all, the small incident somewhat had a great impact. |
| I'm not sure what the boundary between being picked on and being bullied is. |
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| I got bullied through middle school and my first half of high school. While I hated it, it definitely taught me lessons about life like learning how to dress and act so people look up to you rather then want to make fun of you. Would I go back to highscool? Fuck no, I hated it but I can't deny that without that shitty experience I wouldnt be the man I am today. |
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FlatEight said: Most of us have been bullied. It's just something you deal with and move on and not something you dwell in. Get over it. That picture is cringe-worthy. You can't always 'just move on' from it. When your whole reality is nothing but bullying, when you're living in fear of just going to school it becomes a part of you. A person who didn't go through this will react to things differently. I don't care for that picture though. |
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| I was bullied by a guy a year younger than me cos he was trying to show off to his friends for some stupid reason. He was following me home taunting me with his mates laughing. It happened repeatedly over a few weeks, eventually I snapped, turned around punched him in the face and knocked him out cold. His mates were just chicken and backed away from me, never heard a peep out of the f**ker after that. I don't normally condone violence but I'd had enough of his shit (I had asked him to stop multiple times that just made it worse). |
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| Nah, I'm not one for caring for what people say/think about me. In fact, one could say I'm a counter-bully, which effectively means in our school that you bully the popular, sporty kids. |
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Jalapolo said: I was bullied by a guy a year younger than me cos he was trying to show off to his friends for some stupid reason. He was following me home taunting me with his mates laughing. It happened repeatedly over a few weeks, eventually I snapped, turned around punched him in the face and knocked him out cold. His mates were just chicken and backed away from me, never heard a peep out of the f**ker after that. I don't normally condone violence but I'd had enough of his shit (I had asked him to stop multiple times that just made it worse). Violence is a useful tools with bullies. In junior high some people tried to bully me and I didn't hesitate to fight back. I didn't even have to hit them too hard. It was enough for them to see I'm not an easy target and they left me alone. |
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| I was bullied by this one boy for a very long time in middle school. I don't know if it was because he had a crush on me or simply because I was an easy target and never stood up for myself. But anyways, one day I snapped, told him off, and became the nasty bitch who I am today. Hallelujah. |
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listbot said: they spit on me beat me force me naked took my money entered my home and took many things eventually I killed myself to protest  OT: Yes, I have been bullied, both IRL and online. Luckily that's not happening anymore. But it wasn't easy to deal with. |
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| I have been going through it since kindergarten to now. I'm kind of used to it to the point I don't care. |
| Yeah, but looking back on it, it was my own fault for being an asocial geek. I grew up, and people left me alone. Problem solved. |
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