Caelidesu said: Without belief in God, there is no reason for you to hold any value in the lives of other men. Yeah buddy don't know where you got that twisted logic but I'm a atheist I can tell you I definitely value the life of other men. I hate that type of bullshit where religious zealots like you make it seem like if you don't believe in god you have no morals. You want to believe in your god, fine go ahead I have no problem with that but don't make it seem like everyone who doesn't is wrong or evil or some bull. I have a problem with crap like that. |
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Clebardman said: I don't believe in God and I value human life. OmniStar said: Caelidesu said: Without belief in God, there is no reason for you to hold any value in the lives of other men. Yeah buddy don't know where you got that twisted logic but I'm a atheist I can tell you I indefinitely value the life of other men. I hate that type of bullshit where religious zealots like you make it seem like if you don't believe in god you have no morals. Sorry. I didn't make my point very clearly. Let me select words more carefully. Without belief in God, there is no inherent reason for any governing authority to value the lives of their own citizens. |
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| Feminism's now worthless movement, they can't argue, they don't go deal with the real issues like abolishing the Sharia's law. They do something like this. Absolutely vomit-inducing movement defended by pretentious brats with too much to say but nothing worthwhile to add but insults and more insults. I don't care about MRA either. |
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dekomaru said: Nah they're a joke. That's why no one but themselves take them seriously. Feminism also focuses on male related issues too, y'know. And actually act out on them rather than using it for their argument against feminists. |
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| @Khunter....The thing about men wanting reproduction rights.... Under certain circumstances, it makes sense why a man might want to opt out of being a parent and shouldn't be punished financially when he refuses to be a father.... Probably the best example is when a man is tricked into it....this happens more times than not, the girlfriend/wife will say she's on the pill or some type of contraception, the man will not wear a condom, and what do you know, it's a MIRACLE....she's pregnant. She lied. Why should the man, who was lied to, and does NOT want to be a parent, be forced into it or face financial hardships? But regardless of that....a woman can terminate a pregnancy WITHOUT the consent of a man, and I'm ok with that. However, a man's finances are completely in jeopardy even if he doesn't want to be a parent and has expressed his desire NOT to be a parent to the woman well before the baby is out. Now, we can go back and forth about responsibility, but I ask you.....when American women get over 1 million abortions per year, what type of responsibility are they taking? khunter said: Feminists have REAL issue. More so in countries like India. Many like to make shit up now, but come on, many of the issue you mentioned are cultural or first world. Well, I'm giving you REAL male issues that men face in the FIRST world, and women have REAL issues in the first world too. But is that what feminism focuses on? They love to preach about the non-existent wage gap, the ridiculous notions of "patriarchy", and constantly being "oppressed". This is why no one takes them seriously, and this is why they are HATED. |
| Humanism/Human rights makes no sense because that means rights are taken away from ppl simply because they are human. Its much more complicated & complex than that. The reason why people don't have rights, denied rights, and discriminated against rights can very. Also, it may be humanly reasonable & should be enough to give folks the rights they dimply deserve, but the argument "Because they're human." can't always be challenged. |
| I'm on the same side as you. I think there are legitimate men's issues, but I see the MRA's just fighting against feminism. My workplace is awfully misandrist but it has nothing to do with feminism. If MRA's are truly for equality, then they're the different side of the feminist coin. They should focus on issues, not on the vast conspiracy of how feminism is going to castrate us all. |
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JustALEX said: @Khunter....The thing about men wanting reproduction rights.... Under certain circumstances, it makes sense why a man might want to opt out of being a parent and shouldn't be punished financially when he refuses to be a father.... Probably the best example is when a man is tricked into it....this happens more times than not, the girlfriend/wife will say she's on the pill or some type of contraception, the man will not wear a condom, and what do you know, it's a MIRACLE....she's pregnant. She lied. Why should the man, who was lied to, and does NOT want to be a parent, be forced into it or face financial hardships? But regardless of that....a woman can terminate a pregnancy WITHOUT the consent of a man, and I'm ok with that. However, a man's finances are completely in jeopardy even if he doesn't want to be a parent and has expressed his desire NOT to be a parent to the woman well before the baby is out. Now, we can go back and forth about responsibility, but I ask you.....when American women get over 1 million abortions per year, what type of responsibility are they taking? khunter said: Feminists have REAL issue. More so in countries like India. Many like to make shit up now, but come on, many of the issue you mentioned are cultural or first world. Well, I'm giving you REAL male issues that men face in the FIRST world, and women have REAL issues in the first world too. But is that what feminism focuses on? They love to preach about the non-existent wage gap, the ridiculous notions of "patriarchy", and constantly being "oppressed". This is why no one takes them seriously, and this is why they are HATED. You're okay with a women being able to get an abortion without the consent of a man but not okay with women being able to get money from the men who don't want to be fathers? You do realize that is hypocritical right? If you truly cared about gender rights, the man should get a say no? But if he wants the kid, too bad for him. Backwards logic on your part. If the guy didn't want to be a parent and was tricked into it, yes, you have an argument. But how the fuck can anyone prove that in court? It would just be he ssaid, she said. & Then, if it turned around to favor the man instead of the women, then it's just as backwards again, or what, it becomes so equal, it's 50/50, some guys get away with no payments, others are forced to pay? There doesn't even seem like a conclusion to that one, even if I agree with you. But is alimony really just made up? I mean, I'm sure it's expensive but the last time I checked, raising a kid is expensive as shit. Feminists like to go on about retarded shit, but MRA is highly ridiculous as well. Their arguments turn into garbage as well, just because the opposite side has spewed forth crap at levels of Vesuvius. People should just call them on their shit. Not just MRA, who happen to have a large population of retards. |
TheBrainintheJar said: My workplace is awfully misandrist but it has nothing to do with feminism. Isn't it a feminist issue? why don't feminists fight against female sexism? whose problem are female sexists? male sexists are apparently feminism's main issue so why are they nothing to do with feminists. You're recent responses about attraction and your work suggest that in your life you experience a lot of de-masculating situations and have become somewhat of a male feminist just to get them off your back or justify their sexism towards you. Like a long term abuse victim you have come to start saying "I deserve this" "This is mens fault" "im too unattractive for them" "its men worshiping these girls that makes them into bitches its not their fault its ours." Hmm its all coming together now *smokes freud cigar* |
SpooksSep 29, 2015 1:37 PM
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ThrashMatto said: battosai-01 said: You mean how they always talk about parental opt-outs, male circumcision, how theres no abuse shelters for men, how abuse & rape of men is laughed off, how the education system is now more geared towards educating girls and treating active boys as defective girls, alimony, post-divorce father's rights, how even though the science exists there is still push back against a male pill.If they want to be taken seriously they need to focus on the serious shit. edit: fuck it, this never ends well. What's a male pill? |
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dekomaru said: Nah they're a joke. That's why no one but themselves take them seriously. Feminism also focuses on male related issues too, y'know. And actually act out on them rather than using it for their argument against feminists. Reading this post is the equivalent of putting my face into an anus and breathing deeply. |
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caws said: ^ fucking lol'd I take back when I called you stupid Magical. You're a-okay. I should make a visual novel where raping SJWs and feminists humbles them into reasonable, knowledgeable, sensible people. |
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Magical-Soul said: dekomaru said: Nah they're a joke. That's why no one but themselves take them seriously. Feminism also focuses on male related issues too, y'know. And actually act out on them rather than using it for their argument against feminists. Reading this post is the equivalent of putting my face into an anus and breathing deeply. Lol |
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Spooks_McBones said: TheBrainintheJar said: My workplace is awfully misandrist but it has nothing to do with feminism. Isn't it a feminist issue? why don't feminists fight against female sexism? whose problem are female sexists? male sexists are apparently feminism's main issue so why are they nothing to do with feminists. You're recent responses about attraction and your work suggest that in your life you experience a lot of de-masculating situations and have become somewhat of a male feminist just to get them off your back or justify their sexism towards you. Like a long term abuse victim you have come to start saying "I deserve this" "This is mens fault" Hmm its all coming together now *smokes freud cigar* I actually sometimes say unflattering things about women. I think I have a few posts here where I come off as a misogynist. The misandry in my workplace does come from the men, though. Since they care most about female approval, they treat the females well and leave us to rot. I have a lot of criticism against contemporary feminist. It does encourage a victim culture, and is too busy making men feel bad for not being raped instead of doing something about rape. A feminist issue is an issue that's about the female experience. An MRA issue is one that's concerned with the female experience. Women not being able to vote was about the female experience. The high rate of male suicide and the flippant way we treat raped males are MRA issues. You do have a point about de-masculating, but this thread isn't the place for it. Magical-Soul said: caws said: ^ fucking lol'd I take back when I called you stupid Magical. You're a-okay. I should make a visual novel where raping SJWs and feminists humbles them into reasonable, knowledgeable, sensible people. I know a girl who loves to rant about feminists on Facebook. Her boyfriend posted a rape story and thought the girl deserved being raped (for going to a club). Don't be so quick to choose sides. There are a lot of crazy feminists out there. There are also a lot of men who will offended if you have sex but still expect you to have it. Be an iconoclast! Fuck all groups! |
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caws said: Magical-Soul said: I should make a visual novel where raping SJWs and feminists humbles them into reasonable, knowledgeable, sensible people. easy there. easy. went from like a 4 to a 10 real quick. I don't know what your numbers mean! And I'm not sure I can be bothered to learn them. xD |
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Magical-Soul said: dekomaru said: Nah they're a joke. That's why no one but themselves take them seriously. Feminism also focuses on male related issues too, y'know. And actually act out on them rather than using it for their argument against feminists. Reading this post is the equivalent of putting my face into an anus and breathing deeply. Did I ask? |
dekomaru said: Magical-Soul said: Reading this post is the equivalent of putting my face into an anus and breathing deeply. Did I ask? It's a public forum sweetheart. Are you really surprised someone called an obviously stupid post, stupid? |
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Magical-Soul said: dekomaru said: Did I ask? It's a public forum sweetheart. Are you really surprised someone called an obviously stupid post, stupid? Like...just...what's the point of responding to that with no counterargument? Some people at least said "Lol Feminazis don't do that because (Points to irrelevant internet feminists only anti-feminists know about probably by means of creating propaganda)." Or did you really just wanted me to know how much u don't like those statements & not having to say why? |
dekomaru said: Magical-Soul said: It's a public forum sweetheart. Are you really surprised someone called an obviously stupid post, stupid? Like...just...what's the point of responding to that with no counterargument? Some people at least said "Lol Feminazis don't do that because (Points to irrelevant internet feminists only anti-feminists know about probably)." Or did you really just wanted me to know how much u don't like those statements & not having to say why? Quoting isn't the same as directly talking to someone. Keep in mind I'm not insulting you, but I think your posts/statements are very extreme and biased for feminism. If you want a argument, I'll give you one, but you don't seem like the type to carry out a debate. |
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| Its almost as bad as third wave feminism. Only thing stopping it from being as bad is they are not taken as seriously by many people. Its not entirely without merit though same as feminism. There are some legitimate things but its really mostly just a reaction to feminism in today's world so it makes it nothing but the other side of the same coin. All it will do is make more feminists even more extreme to counteract MRA's then MRA's will get more extreme. Its just stupid how they both go about things. |
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