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Sep 12, 2015 10:00 PM
#201
[size=200][color=blue]"Astros Accusation"[/size][/color] [b]... Very interesting Mr. Prosecutor, I see you're resolved to accuse me, even if it goes against your job you believe that I'm the culprit and you're following what you believe to be "Justice". Well, justice doesnt exist, and as sad or happy I am to say this, your theory is flawled and as you said yourself, everything is assumptions. What? A basket on a prop room? Is that so surprising? Also the fingerprints just means that me and the defendant touched it. It could have been at anytime and anywhere on the expo. It could even be that the basket have been placed on that prop room just before the murder happened, it could even be that we both went to the changing room before the murder and touched the basket on different times. For you, the only thing it could've been is "The basket belonged to the defendant". Noone can confirm that, not even the defendant. lupadim said: [/quote]Astros said: I don't remember anything about any costumeHow about you tell me whether or not you wore a costume to the Expo? And no denying the fact that I used the Titan costume, you want to test some sweat DNA to prove this too? Go ahead. I most definitelly came to the Expo and walked around on the Titan suit. Now to your "theory", you claim that I used the basket to handle ammunation. So I supposedly buy a gun but bring my own bullets? That doesn't make sense. I don't quite care about the part of the dealer, I said once and I say again that I did not had the intention to purchase a gun. You state that "My plan to not go to jail" is to "drug Lupadim" and make him do stuff for me? May I ask you then how did I obtained drugs for this plan? And how would I predict that I would need to use such drugs on this situation? The Maid testimony states that another man did it, but another man could have been anyone, even the one person that it would be common to have a drink with, a "friend". May I remind that noone debunked that the other person on the cafe was said friend. What? You think I just went to the man, said "sup?" and powdered his drink with a drug I just had to bring cause I'm a psychic? I don't think so. The footage shows a person with a gun, not buying one, just with a gun. I don't care where the dude wandered off when was sick, high or drunk. I think the picture is just some random thing a certain someone picked on the net, I don't think the coffee on the image is really relevant. "He was drugged, then asked to buy a gun, so he did it", I don't see that as reasonably possible. Here's the actual scenario: Dude was groovin on the powder and shot a person as a result of that, simple. I give you props for the banana peel though. And by all means, search the prop room for your "Fake gun", all you'll find is a basket and a broken unicycle that "I broke in a fit of rage". |
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Sep 12, 2015 10:05 PM
#202
Sorry if some parts come out as rude .-. |
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Sep 12, 2015 10:32 PM
#203
Mkim said: The security guard can confirm if they were carrying a basket or not. As they were the one most likely to have inspected it. Also did you already forget? You claimed the defendant wasn't carrying any items when you met him, so how could you have touched it in the costume room? Before you claim you met him before that let me point out the other testimony you gave.What? A basket on a prop room? Is that so surprising? Also the fingerprints just means that me and the defendant touched it. It could have been at anytime and anywhere on the expo. It could even be that the basket have been placed on that prop room just before the murder happened, it could even be that we both went to the changing room before the murder and touched the basket on different times. For you, the only thing it could've been is "The basket belonged to the defendant". Noone can confirm that, not even the defendant. Mkim said: This was directly after you stated you saw him in the changing room. You couldn't have saw him anywhere else because.Astros said: "Mr. Mkim, you claim you saw a person with a red mantle, was there anything else you noticed about them such as items they were carrying?" I do not believe I saw him carrying any object, but I did mention the person with the red mantle "Flop-ed". The gun was visible after he fell. Mkim said: Astros said: "Hmm, an understandable reaction. It's not everyday you witness a possible shooting after all. I have two more questions I'd like ask. Did you ever see the victim and the defendant together before the incident and did you know either prior to the event?"[/i] About the first question, I don't believe I saw the defendant before, nor the two of them together. Now to the second question, yes I knew the victim, we went to the same High School, I only heard that he was the victim some time after the incident though. Mkim said: What I did with the costume... I wore it? I just cosplayed, it is a costume. And no, I didn't met Lupadim at any point of the event before the murder incident You said you never saw the defenant before until the costume room. So how could you know he had a basket before hand? If you never saw him or it then there is no way you could have touched it in that costume room or outside it. Mkim said: Now to your "theory", you claim that I used the basket to handle ammunation. So I supposedly buy a gun but bring my own bullets? That doesn't make sense. I don't quite care about the part of the dealer, I said once and I say again that I did not had the intention to purchase a gun. Byon-kun said: Astros said: No I did not. the killer must have got it from somewhere elseByon-kun said: I earn my money by selling fake guns to people. And in this case, I had agreed with Mkim to sell him a real gun instead. I don't look into why my clients would want a real gun. Somehow the real gun ended up with Lupadim(Still not sure how I could have done sucha mistake). Before I knew of the mistake it was already too late. I wonder if the witness could have taken the gun from the dizzy Luka and shot the victim instead(With gloves). In questioning of his testimony he said he never brought bullets for it. This is reasonable to believe as without bullets a real gun is harmless. He had no knowledge that you would possibly bring your own to commit a murder. I also doubt he would make up a story such as this one. Mkim said: The fact the maid did not give a specific description supports they did not see your face as you were wearing the Titan costume. We can ask her if the man with the defendant was wearing such a costume.You state that "My plan to not go to jail" is to "drug Lupadim" and make him do stuff for me? May I ask you then how did I obtained drugs for this plan? And how would I predict that I would need to use such drugs on this situation? The Maid testimony states that another man did it, but another man could have been anyone, even the one person that it would be common to have a drink with, a "friend". May I remind that noone debunked that the other person on the cafe was said friend. What? You think I just went to the man, said "sup?" and powdered his drink with a drug I just had to bring cause I'm a psychic? I don't think so. It's fine. |
AstrosSep 12, 2015 10:54 PM
Sep 12, 2015 10:57 PM
#204
[center][b]You're stating that I engaged with the defendant, that's why our fingerprints are on said basket. The fingerprints just mean that we touched the same basket, it could have been on different times when either me or him were not close to each other. I don't really get your evidence on the baskets also, I didn't met Lupadim, but that doesnt mean I didn't met the basket. Yeah, the bullets part confuses me (Though the part that mostly confuses me is to why a guy openly admited that he brought a real gun to a gun restriction area and have admited to have sold it when it became a murder weapon) And excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? Astros said: He had no knowledge that you would possibly bring your own to commit a murder" I never brought bullets for any gun on this Expo nooooor I commited any murder. And once again, you can ask the Maid anything (Not quite sure if there's time for this though) as I did not "powdered" Lupadim's drink, but that also doesnt explains why and how I would have brought any drugs. |
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Sep 12, 2015 11:22 PM
#205
Mkim said: While true, there is a problem with this theory. There is no evidence supporting the existence of the basket outside the costume room. The chances of both of you touching it by chance is too much coincidence. To suggest the defendant entered the room, touched the basket, then left to kill their target is absurd. This is not to mention there was little reason for the defendant to enter the costume room when he already had the supposed weapon he used supposedly to kill the victim. You're stating that I engaged with the defendant, that's why our fingerprints are on said basket. The fingerprints just mean that we touched the same basket, it could have been on different times when either me or him were not close to each other. Mkim said: While true I find it hard to believe you would have seen or even remembered the basket unless it was important. You said yourself the unicycle was new to you.I don't really get your evidence on the baskets also, I didn't met Lupadim, but that doesnt mean I didn't met the basket. Mkim said: This unicycle is actually new to me, and it's not all the props, it's just a few. But seriously when I say that the unicycle is literally new to me. I'm not even joking However, to my knowledge nothing of the crime scene has been changed. Why then do you remember the basket so well? They were all props and yet one sticks out from the others. Now before you claim it's because I'm bringing it up as evidence against you let me ask you this. What purpose did you have in touching the basket? It was not yours and you had no need for it. You also had to move all the props in front of it out of the way to even reach it unless you were to step on and possibly break them. Mkim said: I'm still talking in relation to my accusation, no need to take offense or believe I'm stating facts here. Yeah, the bullets part confuses me (Though the part that mostly confuses me is to why a guy openly admited that he brought a real gun to a gun restriction area and have admited to have sold it when it became a murder weapon) And excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me? Astros said: He had no knowledge that you would possibly bring your own to commit a murder" I never brought bullets for any gun on this Expo nooooor I commited any murder. Mkim said: The why I explained in my accusation. You needed the drugs to manipulate someone to take the fall for you.And once again, you can ask the Maid anything (Not quite sure if there's time for this though) as I did not "powdered" Lupadim's drink, but that also doesnt explains why and how I would have brought any drugs. |
AstrosSep 12, 2015 11:35 PM
Sep 12, 2015 11:50 PM
#206
I'm going to stop writing on bold .-. Astros said: There is no evidence supporting the existence of the basket outside the costume room. The chances of both of you touching it by chance is too much coincidence. To suggest the defendant entered the room, touched the basket, then left to kill their target is absurd. This is not to mention there was little reason for the defendant to enter the costume room when he already had the supposed weapon he used supposedly to kill the victim. Well, yeah it is absurd on said scenario. But it doesnt meant he couldn't have touched the basket on any other time apart from close to the murder. There's also no evidence that the basket was never taken outside the room. Astros said: However, to my knowledge nothing of the crime scene has been changed. Why then do you remember the basket so well? They were all props and yet one sticks out from the others. Now before you claim it's because I'm bringing it up as evidence against you let me ask you this. What purpose did you have in touching the basket? It was not yours and you had no need for it. You also had to move all the props in front of it out of the way to even reach it unless you were to step on and possibly break them. I don't remember the basket well, I could have like, touched it a hour before the murder then someone took it to the changing room or something, I did several things on the Expo, maybe the basket was in one of the rooms and I just happened to touch it at that moment. Also, the room design is originally like that the difference is only the costume and the basket. I think there's some not so relevant evidences such as maybe the props and the guard's homemade cookies Astros said: I'm still talking in relation to my accusation, no need to take offense or believe I'm stating facts here. I don't understand much what you just said, but I think I see. Mkim said: The why I explained in my accusation. You needed the drugs to manipulate someone to take the fall for you. So I planned a murder and even drugs to make someone take the fall for me huh. I don't think that even if I did planned to murder Elwin, I would have planned that far. I have to sleep now, be back in a few hours ( ̄ー ̄) There are currently many unclear things to me, yes I seem suspicious but I still plead innocence. There's also many things that I don't understand about what's going one. I don't know about these props or this basket. I don't know about any bullets and specially I'm oblivious to any drugs. And last and not least, I have a bad feeling about this "friend". |
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Sep 13, 2015 12:05 AM
#207
Mkim said: Thank you, was getting annoying.I'm going to stop writing on bold .-. Mkim said: The chances are very slim, on the latter you're wrong. The only fingerprints found on the basket were yours and the defendant. If the defendant wasn't seen with the basket outside it could have only been taken out by you, however, you said you merely touched it. Are you implying that you removed the basket from the costume room?Well, yeah it is absurd on said scenario. But it doesnt meant he couldn't have touched the basket on any other time apart from close to the murder. There's also no evidence that the basket was never taken outside the room. Mkim said: As I stated before, with only yours and the defendants fingerprints you were the only two who could have taken or placed the basket in that room.I don't remember the basket well, I could have like, touched it a hour before the murder then someone took it to the changing room or something, I did several things on the Expo, maybe the basket was in one of the rooms and I just happened to touch it at that moment. Also, the room design is originally like that the difference is only the costume and the basket. I think there's some not so relevant evidences such as maybe the props and the guard's homemade cookies Mkim said: It's not as if the target was anyone special. Anyone could have done as long as they consumed the drugs.So I planned a murder and even drugs to make someone take the fall for me huh. I don't think that even if I did planned to murder Elwin, I would have planned that far. Mkim said: I agree there are many holes in my theory, holes that need evidence to be filled. I place that responsibility on the defense and that they may be able to shed some light on this case. That or if the side characters such as the Security Guard and Dealer could step forward and either deny or support my claims.I have to sleep now, be back in a few hours ( ̄ー ̄) There are currently many unclear things to me, yes I seem suspicious but I still plead innocence. There's also many things that I don't understand about what's going one. I don't know about these props or this basket. I don't know about any bullets and specially I'm oblivious to any drugs. And last and not least, I have a bad feeling about this "friend". |
AstrosSep 13, 2015 1:13 AM
Sep 13, 2015 12:05 AM
#208
I want to reveal something else that happened after I told Mr. Mkim that he had to retrieve it himself. After I had told him that he gave me some LSD and told me to meet the defendant at about 1.30pm to have a 'nice chat' and once he wasn't looking I were to pour a strong dose of the LSD into his coffee. I did this because I thought I could rely on him retrieving it. But I had no idea he had plans to actually use the gun once he got hold of it. Did he shoot the victim because he saw what Mkim did to the defendant and were he doing some else to the drugged victim? I don't know the exact motive of him doing this murder but I don't think anyone else could have done it since I don't think anyone else brought LSD or bullets with them. |
Sep 13, 2015 12:35 AM
#209
Byon-kun said: Okay, I'm down with you selling a gun without ammo, but drugging someone with LSD is a bit far. Firstly, how did you know what the defendant looked like? Secondly, how did you know the defendant would be at the cafe at exactly 1:30pm? Thirdly, LSD in it's pure refined form is colorless, so how could the maid report it was white? Fourthly, in liquid form LSD has slight color but takes 30 minutes for affects to appear after intravenous injection. Injection being quicker than digestion I find it hard to believe the defendant would have been manipulated by the eye witness within this time period.I want to reveal something else that happened after I told Mr. Mkim that he had to retrieve it himself. After I had told him that he gave me some LSD and told me to meet the defendant at about 1.30pm to have a 'nice chat' and once he wasn't looking I were to pour a strong dose of the LSD into his coffee. I did this because I thought I could rely on him retrieving it. But I had no idea he had plans to actually use the gun once he got hold of it. Did he shoot the victim because he saw what Mkim did to the defendant and were he doing some else to the drugged victim? I don't know the exact motive of him doing this murder but I don't think anyone else could have done it since I don't think anyone else brought LSD or bullets with them. |
Sep 13, 2015 12:46 AM
#210
Astros said: the Defendant did buy the gun from me so I would recognize him. Tbh I have no actual knowledge of drugs or LSD, I'm only informed by Mkim that I were to do that. I'm also not sure of how I got to meet with him, did Mkim tell Lupa to come meet me?Byon-kun said: Okay, I'm down with you selling a gun without ammo, but drugging someone with LSD is a bit far. Firstly, how did you know what the defendant looked like? Secondly, how did you know the defendant would be at the cafe at exactly 1:30pm? Thirdly, LSD in it's pure refined form is colorless, so how could the maid report it was white? Fourthly, in liquid form LSD has slight color but takes 30 minutes for affects to appear after intravenous injection. Injection being quicker than digestion I find it hard to believe the defendant would have been manipulated by the eye witness within this time period.I want to reveal something else that happened after I told Mr. Mkim that he had to retrieve it himself. After I had told him that he gave me some LSD and told me to meet the defendant at about 1.30pm to have a 'nice chat' and once he wasn't looking I were to pour a strong dose of the LSD into his coffee. I did this because I thought I could rely on him retrieving it. But I had no idea he had plans to actually use the gun once he got hold of it. Did he shoot the victim because he saw what Mkim did to the defendant and were he doing some else to the drugged victim? I don't know the exact motive of him doing this murder but I don't think anyone else could have done it since I don't think anyone else brought LSD or bullets with them. |
ByonKunSep 13, 2015 12:55 AM
Sep 13, 2015 1:01 AM
#211
Byon-kun said: Do you remember what time the defendant bought their gun? I see, I'm not sure on those specifics so it's unknown for now.the Defendant did buy the gun from me so I would recognize him. Tbh I have no actual knowledge of drugs or LSD, I'm only informed by Mkim that I were to do that. I'm also not sure of how I got to meet with him, did Mkim tell Lupa to come meet me? |
Sep 13, 2015 1:06 AM
#212
Astros said: Jack asked me this, and I told him that it was about 2-3 hours before the death actually happened. So between 11 am-12.Byon-kun said: Do you remember what time the defendant bought their gun? I see, I'm not sure on those specifics so it's unknown for now.the Defendant did buy the gun from me so I would recognize him. Tbh I have no actual knowledge of drugs or LSD, I'm only informed by Mkim that I were to do that. I'm also not sure of how I got to meet with him, did Mkim tell Lupa to come meet me? |
Sep 13, 2015 1:08 AM
#213
Byon-kun said: I see, my apologizes for forgetting. Did Jack ask you what they were wearing? It would help to know if it was the "Little Red Riding Hood" costume or not.Jack asked me this, and I told him that it was about 2-3 hours before the death actually happened. So between 11 am-12. With the time being so early the possibility that the receipt in the maid cafe is the defendants is much higher now. So the theory of the eye witness buying the gun first is voided due to my inability to read. I'll have to think more on it and revise it tomorrow. |
AstrosSep 13, 2015 1:23 AM
Sep 13, 2015 1:46 AM
#214
Sorry I was away for the weekend If anyone would like to question me go ahead |
Sep 13, 2015 3:03 AM
#215
seems I missed a lot the prosecution has realy took my thunder and gave a better and more detailed case than I could sadly we do not have any more evidence to add to this case to get the final verdict we lacked in numbers so could only check limited things so we got the same as the prosecution. The only chance we have of proveing this is by testimonys from the guard and the witness to help confirm the existance of this basket since it holds the mystery behind the case. The friend will also be able to tell us this and we can check if the dealer is telling the truth about sale time if the defendant brought the gun at 12 the friend should have seen it when they met. |
Sep 13, 2015 3:32 AM
#216
Sep 13, 2015 3:39 AM
#217
Oops I have some info I should probably share before this case is done "I remembered that the police have been searching for someone who has been selling weapons to the mafia for quite some time. Our Investigation has shown that he must be somewhere in this city." Perhaps this could be the missing link in your investigation, or perhaps it means nothing. You decide |
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Sep 13, 2015 3:43 AM
#218
Astros said: Apparently I unfortunately do not remember what they were wearing. Also I could be wrong about the time.Byon-kun said: I see, my apologizes for forgetting. Did Jack ask you what they were wearing? It would help to know if it was the "Little Red Riding Hood" costume or not.Jack asked me this, and I told him that it was about 2-3 hours before the death actually happened. So between 11 am-12. With the time being so early the possibility that the receipt in the maid cafe is the defendants is much higher now. So the theory of the eye witness buying the gun first is voided due to my inability to read. I'll have to think more on it and revise it tomorrow. |
Sep 13, 2015 6:48 AM
#219
I think that I was having a meeting with the Dealer right before falling asleep in the Maid Café. In my dream, there were many monsters all around me, but one specific monster was much bigger and scarier than all others. I tried to run away from the big monster just like all other monsters around, but I ended up stumbling and falling to the ground. After that, it's all black. |
Sep 13, 2015 8:25 AM
#220
Okay okay, the dealer musta have something against me .-. Though seems he willingly admited to have drugged Lupadim, add that to having "accidentally" sold the gun to Lupadim. The only connection I have to both of these (The gun selling and the drugging) is the dealer's testimony. |
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Sep 13, 2015 8:25 AM
#221
Sodalicious_ said: I have a few, if you're able to answer them before time ends >_>. In your testimony you said you searched someone wearing a "Little Red Riding Hood" costume. What time was this and were they carrying a basket with them? Also, did at any time you leave the dealer hall and go to the security room?Sorry I was away for the weekend If anyone would like to question me go ahead |
Sep 13, 2015 8:36 AM
#222
I would also like to ask the friend Ms. Coromandel a few questions. At the Expo do you ever remember seeing the defendant in possession of a basket? Also what was your relation to the victim? |
Sep 13, 2015 8:43 AM
#223
Astros said: Sodalicious_ said: I have a few, if you're able to answer them before time ends >_>. In your testimony you said you searched someone wearing a "Little Red Riding Hood" costume. What time was this and were they carrying a basket with them? Also, did at any time you leave the dealer hall and go to the security room?Sorry I was away for the weekend If anyone would like to question me go ahead I think that the bag of cookies in the security room may hold some importantce in this somewhere as well I would like to know where you got them. On a side note b ased off this trial so far I think it is fair to say the dealer is going to be in trouble after this. since they have said they were selling real guns and drugged someone that added with the info off the guard about mafia activity in this area does not look good for them . |
Sep 13, 2015 8:50 AM
#224
One more question as I seemingly just asking them to everyone. Did you know the victim prior to the event Lupadim? |
Sep 13, 2015 10:53 AM
#225
Jackrito said: The friend will also be able to tell us this and we can check if the dealer is telling the truth about sale time if the defendant brought the gun at 12 the friend should have seen it when they met. Astros said: I would also like to ask the friend Ms. Coromandel a few questions. At the Expo do you ever remember seeing the defendant in possession of a basket? I don't think Lupadim was carrying a gun or basket with him when we met. Like I said before, I didn't notice anything unusual about him at that time. Astros said: Also what was your relation to the victim? I didn't know the victim. |
Sep 13, 2015 11:45 AM
#226
coromandel said: I see. Thanks for answering.Jackrito said: The friend will also be able to tell us this and we can check if the dealer is telling the truth about sale time if the defendant brought the gun at 12 the friend should have seen it when they met. Astros said: I would also like to ask the friend Ms. Coromandel a few questions. At the Expo do you ever remember seeing the defendant in possession of a basket? I don't think Lupadim was carrying a gun or basket with him when we met. Like I said before, I didn't notice anything unusual about him at that time. Astros said: Also what was your relation to the victim? I didn't know the victim. Detective, you mentioned the Mafia earlier. Has there been any recent developments with them regarding the police, such as a drug bust or something similar? |
Sep 13, 2015 1:15 PM
#227
Unfortunately that is the bulk of my knowledge I've heard a rumour that the case should be ending soon so I hope everyones had their say. I await with curiousity the result ;D |
I've been here way too long... |
Sep 13, 2015 2:00 PM
#228
The verdict! June 4, 1:30 PM District Court Courtroom No. 2 Attorneys: ... And by examining the basket, we will surely find both lupadim and Mkim's fingerprints, isn't that right!? Mkim NnngghH!!.. GRaaAaaaaaaaaaaaaarh!!! That.. It doesn't prove anything!! You're wrong! HE DESERVED IT! .. I mean, every day Elwin would make fun of me. I was always the one being punched around! He had everything. Guys like him deserves to die! Judge: It seems the true culprit in this case is Mkim. After the Dealer had accidentaly sold the real gun to the defendant, he came up with a plan to drug him and frame him for the murder of Elwin Gerald. Any Objections?? *Silence* In that case, I hereby declare the defendant Not Guilty *Lot's of clapping and confetti* - That is all. The court is adjourned! Game Over - Thanks for Playing :D Most Valuable Players Mkim: The perfect villain for an Ace Attorney game. Even when cornered by both the defence and the prosecution he put up an admirable fight! If the rest of players had not all worked together to find the truth, I'm sure he would have gotten away with his crime :D! Astros: Kept the game active and did a great job leading the Prosecution untill he eventually turned to Mkim as the main suspect durring the final trial phase. He also came with a really impressive and comprehensive explanation for ALL the presented evidence and testimonies. (though it wasn't exactly accurate to what had actually happened :P) Jackrito: The prosecution's most fearsome opponent. He kept pointing out every little flaw in the prosecutions case against the defendant, which is exactly what a good defence attorney should do. He was also brave enough to present the Video Tape in order to link the Dealer to the case, despite it being very incriminating evidence against their client. ... If you want to know what actually happened, you can read the role descriptions :P Defendant You have been accused of the murder of Elwin Gerald. You don’t remember killing him though. All you remember is that you bought a fake gun from one of the Dealers inside the Dealer Hall and then you went to the Maid Café. At some point you fell asleep and when you woke up, you were being arrested for murder. You were cosplaying “Little red riding hood” that day. When the Maid Café is presented: You remember meeting the Dealer at the Maid Café before you fell asleep. You also remember the dream you were having while you slept - There were monsters all around you and one of them was much bigger and much scarier than the others. You tried to run away from it and so did all the other monsters. You stumbled and fell to the ground and everything turned black from there on. Dealer You are an illegal weapons dealer and earn money by selling all sorts of guns to the mafia. In order to hide this from the government, you also sell fake weapons at conventions under the pseudonym "Wiggo's Weapon". This year, you have a stand at Japan Expo inside the Dealer Hall. You had in secret arranged to sell a real gun to Mkim. During the convention, the defendant in this case came to your stand and wanted to buy a fake gun. However, after having sold him what was thought to be a fake gun and after the defendant had left your stand, you found that the gun he bought was actually the real gun! You then decided that it would best to get rid of lupadim and retrieve the gun before your secret was revealed. You meet with the defendant on the maid café to have a friendly chat with him and while he wasn’t looking you slipped a strong dose of LSD into his coffe. The dose wasn’t strong enough to kill lupadim but it did make him hallucinate as he left the Maid Cafe. Witness (The true culprit) You and the victim of this case, Elwin Gerald, were in the same class in High School. You are the least popular guy in the class and didn’t have any friends at all. But Elwin Gerald, on the other hand, was the most popular guy in the class, had lots of friends and all the girls were crazy about him! Every day he and his “gang” would make fun of you while you were in school and then beat you up after school. You therefore decided to get your revenge! You came into contact with Transcience, who sells guns illegally on the black market and arranged to buy a gun from his stand, “Wiggo’s Weapons” at Japan Expo, as you knew Elwin Gerald would also attend Japan Expo this year. However, Transcience, accidentally sold the real gun to the defendant in this case, lupadim. Upon noticing this, you quickly stole the gun and hid it inside your costume You attended Japan Expo while cosplaying a Titan from Attack on Titan, so that you wouldn’t be recognized easily. Transcience had only brought 1 real gun and he accidentally sold it to lupadim. Upon noticing this, you quickly stole the gun and hid it inside your costume. You then waited inside the Dealer Hall for Elwin Gerald to show up so that you could shoot him. While you were waiting, lupadim came back into the Dealer Hall really drunk and then you came up with a most diabolical plan! You assaulted lupadim and went into the Changing Room to switch your costume with the “Little Red Riding Hood” costume lupadim was wearing. You then walked back out in the Dealer Hall, shot Elwin Gerald in the chest and then went back into the Changing Room to change back your costumes. The last thing you did was drag lupadim from the Changing Room to the Dealer Hall, place the gun next to him and then flee the scene like all the other guests. Security Guard You are a Security Guard at Japan Expo. Right before the murder occurred, you were standing at the only entrance to the Dealer hall and your job was to make sure that none of the fake weapons the Cosplayers are carrying are actually real weapons. If you saw any realistic weapons, you were to inspect them closely. You don’t want to lose your job as a security guard, so therefore you want to conceal the fact that you might have accidentally let someone with a real weapon through. When the LSD traces have been found: You remember someone dressed as the Little Red Riding Hood acting funny, though he wasn’t carrying any weapons at the time. Friend You are a friend of the defendant. On the same day as the murder occurred, you had met with lupadim around 1:00 PM. At the time, he seemed like his normal. Shortly after having heard the gunshot, you found your friend on the ground with a gun next to him. You didn’t want your friend to be convicted of murder, so you brought it with you as you fled the scene. You still have the gun in your possession. Detective You are the detective in charge of the murder investigation. You have no relation to the case, but you will do everything you can so that justice will be served. After the incident you did a throughout investigation in the Dealer Hall. You found that there was only a single entrance from the Hallway to the Dealer Hall in which all guests had to pass through to get inside. When the Dealer has been exposed: You remember that the police have been searching someone who has been selling weapons to the mafia for quite some time. Investigation has shown that he must be somewhere in this city. Prosecutors At the Japan Expo convention in Paris, Elwin Gerald has been murdered. He was shot right in the middle of the Dealer Hall. There was chaos, as the gunshot could be heard throughout the entire hall and everyone tried to flee. The defendant was found unconscious close to the victim after everyone else had fled. He was wearing a “Little Red Riding Hood” costume at the time. Mkim is an eye witness, as he was standing nearby when the crime occurred and claims to have seen the culprit as he pulled the trigger. How the defendant managed to smuggle a real gun past the security is a mystery… Attorneys At the Japan Expo convention in Paris, Elwin Gerald has been murdered. The defendant in this case is lupadim and you and your team has agreed to defend him in court. You know very little about what happened during the crime, but you do know that Sodalicious_ was in charge of the security inside the Dealer Hall where the murder happened. |
Sep 13, 2015 2:02 PM
#229
I was typing up my last theories -_-. Regardless, was fun trying to figure things out even if I was wrong. I'm probably better at trying to be a detective than a prosecutor though >_>. |
Sep 13, 2015 2:07 PM
#230
Dont worry Astros detectives don't really "detect", in fact I didnt do much at all cep wait and see Anyway gg to everyone, it felt shorter than it was. |
I've been here way too long... |
Sep 13, 2015 2:13 PM
#231
TheConquerer said: True, but I meant more in the sense I wanted to figure out what happened more than find the defendant guilty. If I were to pursue a prosecution win only I would have ignored the possibility of the eye witness doing it.Dont worry Astros detectives don't really "detect", in fact I didnt do much at all cep wait and see Anyway gg to everyone, it felt shorter than it was. Yeah, I think that was due to lack of activity. This game really calls for active participants to be interesting. |
Sep 13, 2015 2:15 PM
#232
Sep 13, 2015 2:16 PM
#233
Btw, the coat, the broken probs and the homemade cookies were all just red herrings (though lupadim apparently decided to add the cookies to his testimony) Astros said: Aww - I would have loved to read your last theories :(I was typing up my last theories -_-. Regardless, was fun trying to figure things out even if I was wrong. I'm probably better at trying to be a detective than a prosecutor though >_>. This game has required a lot more planning and taken up a bit more time than most other games I've hosted, but it has definitely also been the most interresting to spectate :D |
Sep 13, 2015 2:22 PM
#234
Well I got the verdict I wanted wish I went with my gut feeling and said the killer used the defedant costume to trick the camaras and frame them I did not think he would be able to leave the scene and change back though in the time. That added with my cilent had the outfit on at the murder scene also made me doubt it. I think it was obv I was going for that with my questions on the last day but once the prosecution showed my cilent in the costume I dropped it.Good to know I had the right idea at least. I would like to thank the host Zymf for coming up with this and making it fun to play I enjoyed working the case out and the back and forth with the prosecution and the questioning of 3rd parties. I just wish it was more active it seemed more me vs Astros at times which added to the fun in a way. On them thanks for putting your all into this and working with me to get the guilty party even though it was aganist your win condition a bit. |
Sep 13, 2015 2:37 PM
#236
Zymf said: I figured the coat and cookies were, but the props got me big time. I just couldn't understand why they would keep all those broken props!Btw, the coat, the broken probs and the homemade cookies were all just red herrings (though lupadim apparently decided to add the cookies to his testimony) Zymf said: Aww - I would have loved to read your last theories :( TheConquerer said: I see. With the latest informative given from the testimonies I guess I'll lay down my new theories before lettings things play out on their own.Unfortunately that is the bulk of my knowledge I've heard a rumour that the case should be ending soon so I hope everyones had their say. I await with curiousity the result ;D Zymf said: To answer this question Your honor it's quite simple. If what the gun dealer says is true and they saw the defendant buy a gun 2-3 hours prior to the crime then the receipt in the cafe is most likely the defendants. So the defendant just walked by Security with a real gun? I find that a little hard to believe... coromandel said: I don't think Lupadim was carrying a gun or basket with him when we met. Like I said before, I didn't notice anything unusual about him at that time. If the testimony by the friend is truthful then the defendant most likely visited the dealer a short while before 1:30 pm as at 1:00 pm when the friend and defendant met up they were not in possession of it. Moving on from here as to how they were able to get past the guard, they simply could have showed the guard their receipt. It would be valid proof that the gun was indeed fake as only fake guns were being sold there. With this they would be able to go past the guard and into the maid cafe. Now the events to transpire after this have little evidence supporting them as does the assumption I just gave. The security guard's testimony is crucial right now in proving any of this valid, however as with the majority of the case they're MIA. Moving on, from the defendants testimony, and the dealers testimony, the dealer drugged the defendant with LSD. Byon-kun said: I want to reveal something else that happened after I told Mr. Mkim that he had to retrieve it himself. After I had told him that he gave me some LSD and told me to meet the defendant at about 1.30pm to have a 'nice chat' and once he wasn't looking I were to pour a strong dose of the LSD into his coffee. I did this because I thought I could rely on him retrieving it. But I had no idea he had plans to actually use the gun once he got hold of it. Did he shoot the victim because he saw what Mkim did to the defendant and were he doing some else to the drugged victim? I don't know the exact motive of him doing this murder but I don't think anyone else could have done it since I don't think anyone else brought LSD or bullets with them. How the eye witness got a hold of LSD can possibly be explained by the detectives mentioned statement. TheConquerer said: Oops I have some info I should probably share before this case is done "I remembered that the police have been searching for someone who has been selling weapons to the mafia for quite some time. Our Investigation has shown that he must be somewhere in this city." Perhaps this could be the missing link in your investigation, or perhaps it means nothing. You decide If the eye witness was apart of the mafia then the dealer would have incentive to sell the gun to them, also they would have access to such drugs such as lSD. After drugging the defendant the eye witness most likely came to retrieve the gun from him in his vulnerable state. Wearing the Titan costume I believe the defendant referred to him in their latest testimony. lupadim said: I think that I was having a meeting with the Dealer right before falling asleep in the Maid Café. In my dream, there were many monsters all around me, but one specific monster was much bigger and scarier than all others. I tried to run away from the big monster just like all other monsters around, but I ended up stumbling and falling to the ground. After that, it's all black. Running from the cafe they dropped their receipt and possibly ended up in the dealer hall before collapsing. Upon this happening the eye witness could have followed behind him. When asked if he was alright by those nearby he could have volunteered to take him to the costume room bed to rest. Acquiring the gun in the process. While the defendant was asleep the eye witness could have put the "Little Red Riding Hood" costume on him. Planning to kill the victim and plant the gun on him in the costume room it would look like he shot the victim in a drugged state and then fled to the costume room and passed out. However, waking up before that, the defendant could have taken the fake gun in the room thinking it was his and left to wander around the dealer hall. Being caught on camera at 2:00 pm he then wandered to where the victim was shot. Upon seeing him outside the eye witness could have planted the gun on him before fleeing the scene. Now as to the matter with the basket. If the guilt were to fall on the person wearing the "Little Red Riding Hood" costume the defendants prints would most likely need to be on it. So either the eye witness had him touch it in his sleep or gave it to him before leaving him alone. With the latter when he woke up he might have put it on the ball, leaving it as it wasn't his. The eye witness could claim they merely touched the prop at a different time if his prints were found on it. The motive I believe to be connected with the Mafia and possibly the drugs. The victim may have been called there to be given the LSD to sell, however was cheating the Mafia. Though the possibility of other motives it likely as there has been little to investigate the reasons. The biggest points that I would like considered are that with all the testimonies given thus far none have placed the defendant wearing the "Little Red Riding Hood" costume to the Expo. Also no one had business or knew the victim prior to the event besides the eye witness. While I acknowledge the method of killing is complicated it isn't totally unreasonable Zymf said: Look forward to the next one when you find time.This game has required a lot more planning and taken up a bit more time than most other games I've hosted, but it has definitely also been the most interresting to spectate :D Jackrito said: Yup, I had more fun trying to figure it out than winning. Sorry to my team though.On them thanks for putting your all into this and working with me to get the guilty party even though it was aganist your win condition a bit. |
AstrosSep 13, 2015 2:41 PM
Sep 13, 2015 2:54 PM
#237
"We declare the defendant not..." OBJECTION I confess |
Sep 13, 2015 2:57 PM
#238
lupadim said: "We declare the defendant not..." OBJECTION I confess Well, I had a endgame message written, but this is interesting I'll put on hold for now -3- |
gone bai bai |
Sep 13, 2015 3:02 PM
#239
lupadim said: "We declare the defendant not..." OBJECTION I confess |
Sep 13, 2015 3:20 PM
#241
lupadim said: I confess to being completely innocent Thanks ・_・ '-' :| ._. '_' .-. ゜-゜ ಠ_ಠ Kay den |
gone bai bai |
Sep 13, 2015 3:21 PM
#242
Wahahahahaha -3-, well that's it then. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ I tried. I think my definitive downfall was the basket. I became totally lost after that came up, I never even thought about a basket, though a "Little Red Riding Hood" cosplay would have one. This was fun, yah I was cornered but it was still pretty fun. Thanks Zymf for coming up with the game, gjob sonny ( ̄ー ̄)b. And y'all Active players. And I gotta also admit, trying to reveal the truth is more appealing than trying to conceal it, I guess that's the charm of a Ace Attorney case. Yay, I'm a MVP Also, good job Astros on enduring my dumb retorts, sorry you had to go throught that. Byon-kun said: Thanks for the game. I did lie a bit of what I actually did to fill some of my missing points in my pm. And to save Lupa(I like to root for people in a bad spot, nothing personal Mkim) since I don't think I had a win condition Well, at least now I have a reason for the lie, it's no problem :V, I'm going to have fun with you as my cellmate Mr. "Black Market Gun and Drug Dealer" |
gone bai bai |
Sep 13, 2015 3:46 PM
#243
Damn Sorry for not being active guys I had a full weekend and didn't get much time to be on MAL |
Sep 13, 2015 3:54 PM
#244
Mkim said: It's fine, you made some good points with them and had me still doubting at the end. You got that MVP spot for selling the character after all.Also, good job Astros on enduring my dumb retorts, sorry you had to go throught that. Sodalicious_ said: Understandable, at least you contributed in some way.Damn Sorry for not being active guys I had a full weekend and didn't get much time to be on MAL |
Sep 14, 2015 12:33 AM
#245
I only watched the game and still had plenty of fun. I wish I had played the game... |
You will be what you will to be. |
Sep 14, 2015 7:00 PM
#246
Nope, that evidence did not help me at all. Sorry I didn't say stuff >.> |
"I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
Sep 15, 2015 6:44 AM
#247
Sep 17, 2015 8:07 AM
#248
I think Capcom has been inspired by my game :P http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1428961 |
Sep 18, 2015 6:33 PM
#249
Zymf said: I should audition for the role of Prosecutor, English subs of course.I think Capcom has been inspired by my game :P http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1428961 |
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