MightyM16 said: He generates a lot of critical stars tho, between him and Sasaki my crit % went up to the roof CookingPriest said: Gil is crit master. He generates a lot of crit stars AND he attracts a lot of critstars to his cards. Problem is that current meta favors high damage servants over critical chance though. Having to use turns to charge criticals so that you have a CHANCE to do a critical when you can just simply zerg rush through waves by sheer power is not worth it, less so if you already have high level Saber/Berserkers, both doing a lot more damage while also having survivability (Battle Continuation, Eye of the Mind...). |
Genkii said: (heard it sucks against human/servant targets). No, lol, it has a bonus modifier against none star servants, and the only star servants are Mozart, Romulus and Jeanne. It just needs the interlude done and be chained/skilled properly. |
| In my defense, everyone is still getting a feel of him and I can't read Japanese so I'm going by initial impressions from myself and other sources (reddit and beast lair). Now that I've actually looked into the facts, most servants do indeed have an innate weakness to Enuma Elish. Also in agreement with SH4kun, the current meta really favors HAM damage over critical gathering and other forms of strategy (mostly because of people over leveling). You want to at best, be able to one shot everything, collect the loot and repeat. You can argue all you like that it's a boring way to play but some of us favor immediate results. [Edit]: Got Gil to lvl 80, did his interlude, upped the skills Charisma and NP+ up to lvl 3 and buffed his NP from 300% A++ to 400% EX. He is now significantly stronger. Whoever has me on their friend list, give him a spin and form your own opinion. Still need to get a better essence card for him though. |
GenkiiSep 1, 2015 2:30 AM
| Played with Gil and another support Attila, this is what I got: Level 70 Attila + Kailedscope (No buffs) ATT – 11471 --------------------------------------- Quick Card Damage = 2k-4.2k Burst Card Damage = 5k-6k Burst Card Damage (Critical) = 12k Burst Card Damage (Buster Chain) = 7k- 8k Arts Card Damage = 2.5k-4.5k Arts Card Damage (Weak) = 10k NP Damage = 16k-17k/all-units (Around 50k-52k in total) Level 80 Gilgamesh + Sakura 4* (No buffs) ATT – 10934 --------------------------------------- Quick Card Damage = 2k – 3.5k Burst Card Damage = 5k-5.5k Burst Card Damage (Buster Chain) = 6.5k-6.8k Arts Card Damage = 2.5k- 5k Arts Card Damage (Critical) = 7.5k NP Damage (Non-Servants) = 10k-11k/all-units (Around 30k-32k in total) NP Damage (Servants) = 17k-18k/all-units (Around 52k-55k in total) Stars generated with Quick –Arts – Arts + Extra = 9 I took into account the best results for every attack (first number is the highest damage of the first card, second is the highest of the second/third card). So yeah, he is stronger now. but unless you are a paying costumer or someone with lots of time and luck to level him up, it seems he isn't worth the trouble until mid-late game (I suspect Gil will shine for real after Okeanos or so, when enemies have a higher lvl and HP pool) and he needs a critical based team so that he can keep up doing lots of damage. As of now, however, Berserkers supports/servant based teams seem like the way to go. I will even go so far as to say that my level 30 Spartacus with a level 5 NP and Kailedscope is much more useful for farming EXP than the lvl 80 Gil right now simple because he can easily clear a wave in every battle because of his Battle Continuation (which gives him a 14% NP bar) and a stronger NP (11k-13k per enemy for a total of 34k-37k), even though he will probably be useless/not very useful around Okeanos and in boss fights. Edit: Not saying you have to change Gil for Vlad or anything, Genkii, I also like using the King of Jobbers and he will probably net you shitloads of FP and happy E-Luck users, just like how my Arturia is now stronger than my Nero even at lvl 39 but nobody uses her because of the big amount of them right now. |
GoldenSaltPillarSep 1, 2015 5:02 AM
| Appreciate the testing and no hard feelings, I have been considering putting Vlad back in (for team zerker raep) just because he is a lot better and useful for farming but Gil nets me an ass ton of FP and potential high leveled friend requests. I'll keep in Gil and at lvl 80 for now and work on Vlad's ascension materials. And yeah you are right about there being WAY TOO MANY Arturias and Rulers around. |
Genkii said: And yeah you are right about there being WAY TOO MANY Arturias and Rulers around. I'm sorry....it's just that Jean was my only servant above 3 stars until today. :) |
Genkii said: Appreciate the testing and no hard feelings, I have been considering putting Vlad back in (for team zerker raep) just because he is a lot better and useful for farming but Gil nets me an ass ton of FP and potential high leveled friend requests. I'll keep in Gil and at lvl 80 for now and work on Vlad's ascension materials. And yeah you are right about there being WAY TOO MANY Arturias and Rulers around. > mfw when I still can't roll a Arturia or a Jeanne |
| Does the 20 ap quest in today's Caster-Zerker-Rider-Assassin ascension item dailies drop the alter ash shit? Need like 6 more so I can get the heart of foreign god on friday and then ascend Medea again. |
| So...much...Archer/Lancer EXP ups...why? all I have are Ushishiwakamaru and Medea. Edit:...and Mozart. Forgot him. Sorry, Moz. |
AllenNoahSep 1, 2015 3:18 PM
Jasm said: MightyM16 said: you're not missing out on much dw> mfw when I still can't roll a Arturia or a Jeanne Arturia is quite a potent Saber that would fix my lack of servants in this class pretty well ( I have Gilles, but he is shit so that doesn't count ) though I'd be happy with Attila too Jeanne, however, is truly a beast IMO, by far a great tank and support character, she'd go well with a Berserker, in fact it would be a downright killer team |
| Arturia is amazing, if not the best balanced Saber. As much as I love her (I don't have her, but even if I did I'd still keep Altera in my team) I only keep around a few friends that have her with Kaleidoscope (80% or 100% ready) just to plow through dailies faster. Other then that, I go for the Level 50+ Zerkers for the Buster synergy. Jeanne, while a tanking goddess that have saved my ass so many times in story mode becomes dead weight for dailies. I absolutely adore her final form. I like to remind people again that I meant no harm and was just making a statement purely from a daily grinders perspective. I don't have either of these characters yet I'm a huge fan of them. WormBro said: Does the 20 ap quest in today's Caster-Zerker-Rider-Assassin ascension item dailies drop the alter ash shit? Need like 6 more so I can get the heart of foreign god on friday and then ascend Medea again. Void's Refuse (虚影の塵) right? I have never seen them drop from the 20ap quests. They consistently drop in the 40ap one though. I have like 74 just from grinding there for the last 2 weeks. |
Genkii said: Void's Refuse (虚影の塵) right? I have never seen them drop from the 20ap quests. They consistently drop in the 40ap one though. I have like 74 just from grinding there for the last 2 weeks. Eh, I've done the 40ap one like 3 times today. Got only 1 Void's Refuse so it kinda doesn't seem to have a very high drop rate, albeit still a decent one. I have like 70ap so I'd have to wait quite a bit before I could re-do the quest. Though, I do need the golden Caster pieces for the final Medea ascension so I'll probably still keep redoing the 40ap one. Would be helpful if you knew a place where they drop often and doesnt waste much ap though. |
| The 40AP quest has a nice drop rate for the monuments, along with a chance for golden ones. Void's Refuse is a nice bonus to it. In the long run all those accumulate and become useful later if you're going to be a long term player. I have way more successful drops from the 40AP compared to the 20AP and 10AP, as well as the main maps. You're killing up to 5 Alters, that's 5 chances for it to drop compared to regular maps where only 1 Alter appears. Drop rates are complete asinine in this game. The amount of times I wanted to hurt myself because something wouldn't drop... |
| What's the best CE for Gilgamesh? Bazett or Tokiomi for crit generation? |
| Bazett is crit "absorption" not generation, I believe. |
| @WormBro, I'm happy to report that after doing 3 of the 10AP Ascension quest, 1 Void's Refuse has dropped. No monuments dropped though. Grind that quest. |
Insertanamehere said: Bazett is crit "absorption" not generation, I believe. So I should use Tokiomi for Gil then? ALSO TFW THIS HAPPENS: |
Genkii said: @WormBro, I'm happy to report that after doing 3 of the 10AP Ascension quest, 1 Void's Refuse has dropped. No monuments dropped though. Grind that quest. Ohhh. Thanks. I'll do that. |
Jasm said: ShinsoPriest said: he's not good enough to justify putting a CE on himWhat's the best CE for Gilgamesh? Bazett or Tokiomi for crit generation? waste of party cost stop linking me 59 min old posts retard |
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Jasm said: ShinsoPriest said: he's not good enough to justify putting a CE on himWhat's the best CE for Gilgamesh? Bazett or Tokiomi for crit generation? waste of party cost nocorras said: stop linking me 59 min old posts retard . |
| if you want me to give you attention maybe link it when you post it instead of wasting an hour then complaining no one gave you any fucken fgt |
| u r -------------------------------------- "exactly what kind of swallows were you trying to cut, Phantasmal Swallows or something?" based |
InsertanamehereSep 3, 2015 9:41 AM
| Looking forward to seeing that doujin translated (even though i don't like that pair all that much). -------------------------- Quick poll: Would you guys be interested in a dedicated fanart thread? There has been some very nice art made for pretty much everything in this game. Samples: |
| enuma00 guy makes the best fanart |
| Clearly made by someone who has no idea what adult Waver is like. |
| i need one ONLY ONE more alter ash do i ask for too much Insertanamehere said: Clearly made by someone who has no idea what adult Waver is like. ur mum |
Insertanamehere said: Clearly made by someone who has no idea what adult Waver is like. |
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Guess who? :D Continued to play yesterday, rolled first time for 10, got Jeanne on the first try. Oh, and my ID is 265350863. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
| Look at all those Motherfucking lucky fuckers everywhere... |
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| What is it, Fai? Still rolling for Jeanne? :P Speaking of which, she's broken... resistant to every class save Berserker, massive HP cost, and insanely good NP... |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
| Gave up after like 50 accounts gave nothing but boudicas and black keys in x10 rolls. Oh and my "main"account? the summoning tickets, all three of them,w ere boudica. I'll have to live with Seiba i rolled on another account. |
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| >ap cost on dailies goes back to the regular cost And just when I need to do the 40ap thing for the heart of foreign god item. Wow, real funny, guise. |
| Its not regular. Since AP regens twice as fast it still is 1/2th of the cost. You simply had 1/4th of the cost for few days. |
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Get on my level |
| Oh look someone wasted $$$ |
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| Yeah, looks like i won't need to make a fanart thread after when they can just be posted here. Aurioch said: Guess who? :D Continued to play yesterday, rolled first time for 10, got Jeanne on the first try. Oh, and my ID is 265350863. Hey Auri :D Will add you in a few. |
Never gets old. |
| Can support slot be moved or disabled? I'd rather use my own Servants on that slot than have to avoid picking OP friends to carry me through missions XD Why can't EMIYA and Sword of Promised Victory play more than 5 seconds >.< In F/UC those two remain playing if you manage to chant all 6 verses of UBW / Holy Grail Burst as Saber. Stock battle music becomes tiresome after a while. EDIT: Oooh boy, Jeanne just tanked Charles' Guillotine twice.At level 22. |
AuriochSep 3, 2015 8:00 PM
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Aurioch said: Can support slot be moved or disabled? I'd rather use my own Servants on that slot than have to avoid picking OP friends to carry me through missions XD There you go: Aurioch said: Stock battle music becomes tiresome after a while. Yeah, i muted the music just a couple of minutes in. I wish the game was voiced though. Then again they really overuse Maya Sakamoto (Da Vinci - Kid Alex - Jean and maybe even more), not that I'm complaining. The more Maya Sakamoto in my games the better. |
astroprogs said: Never gets old. To think 1 star hero is my strongest card feel strange, not that I don't have higher level card. |
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| Is Brosaki Kojirou really that good? He can only go to level 20 without ascensions... while Chevalier can go to 40, and Jeanne to 50. |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
| Compare to them, of course he's nothing but since I am only starting, he's the shit. |
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| It's just that he's really useful in France, where you have to fight against tons of (Rider) Wyverns & some (Rider) Dragons. |
Aurioch said: Is Brosaki Kojirou really that good? He can only go to level 20 without ascensions... while Chevalier can go to 40, and Jeanne to 50. Kojiro has the highest damage output against dragons (France's most frequent enemy) out of all the servants, including the ones who out level him by ~10 levels. Of course, as Kaiser said, he's weak mid and late game even compared to other low-tier servants when it comes to Rome and 40AP dailies. |
Aurioch said: Is Brosaki Kojirou really that good? He can only go to level 20 without ascensions... while Chevalier can go to 40, and Jeanne to 50. He is better than them against dragons. Unless you get Sieg with high level anti-dragon buff, its either Kojiro or Hassan taking france by storm. |
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