The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan
| They know Yuki is popular. But they forgot to realize that Yuki is part of Haruhi's world. It's like "Hey peperoni pizza is popular! Let's make Peperoni Hotdog for a change! |
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Legal_Latino said: They made a spinoff for the most popular character[iMG]http://i.imgur.com/hK8YmM1.png[img] I can only imagine the meeting went something like this |
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| I dunno why people think it's because this is the alternate universe that this is bad... The movie's highly rated for a reason - if the alternate universe's version of Yuki was bad, it just plain wouldn't be, not to that universal extent. Whatever charm and interesting characterisation Yuki's human self had in that movie got fucked in the ass by this series, in a lame attempt at comedy that just plain isn't funny. I dunno who told the mangaka that a character has to be unbearable to be cute but they obviously didn't watch any of the movie or original series properly, which had plenty of examples. In fact, it really takes some skill to be able to make a spin-off of such a popular comedy and turn it into something so horribly unfunny when all but 1 of the characters (since human!Yuki was for drama, not comedy) was already successfully funny before you touched them. |
LoneWizard said: Legal_Latino said: They made a spinoff for the most popular character[iMG]http://i.imgur.com/hK8YmM1.png[img] I can only imagine the meeting went something like this HAHA |
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| I don't understand why "Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu" get anime adaptation? In Japan this manga is really popular? It is popular because it have Haruhi (Kyon and other characters from original series)? It is popular because it still have something with "Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu" series? Fans will still buy it/read it, because is still part of Suzumiya Haruhi series. It is popular, because fans really enjoy just cliche SOL, Rom-Com series? It is popular, because fans really like Yuki? In one side I understand... I also have series which aren't really good, but as long it have something to with XYZ series then it is ok. But in other side... I don't understand Yuki's spin-off is opposite of this what makes Haruhi's series popular.... I think most people started like Yuki how she was in original series, am I wrong? Then why they don't created story just spin-off with Yuki as MC, but still with theme like in original story... Eh... I don't know why.... but "Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu" is just like low quality fanfiction. |
| ^After the movie came out people wanted to see more of Nagato,then some guy started making a spinoff manga with low quality art and low quality story just for the Suzumiya Haruhi/Nagato fans...But to be honest i had no idea that spinoff was popular enough to get an anime adaptation... |
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| ^Thanks :) Now I start to understand... |
iLatrell_ said: I guess none of yall dumb fucks have read the manga, |
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| I Don't hate that show. but i really pref the old drawing style. i am agree with who said that kyon looks like a kid. and the old yuki from the last film " The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumyia" was more cute than the new one. but i love the New Op so it's still the best. |
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| If there's one thing that's set in stone is that Haruhi fans will eat up anything,like literally ANYTHING remotely related to this franchise and there's no way you could say otherwise or do anything about it. They could even air the exact same episodes 8 times in a row and fans will watch and even buy that shit like its hotcakes.Oh wait it actually happened and they could easily get away with doing it again.... |
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iLatrell_ said: I guess none of yall dumb fucks have read the manga, That would totally make the anime awesome yeah!! "You obviously can't understand the series' complexity cuz u haven't read ta mango!" I wonder who's the actual dumb fuck :^) |
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TheNaturalPerm said: thats not the point m8,you completely misunderstood...iLatrell_ said: I guess none of yall dumb fucks have read the manga, That would totally make the anime awesome yeah!! "You obviously can't understand the series' complexity cuz u haven't read ta mango!" I wonder who's the actual dumb fuck :^) If any of you read at least 1 chapter of the manga you would know what kind of anime this was going to be,that would destroy the unnecessary expectations...Because "Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu" NEVER tried to be like something it is not...It is a generic,moe romcom and people should watch/read it knowiing that... |
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LoneWizard said: If any of you read at least 1 chapter of the manga you would know what kind of anime this was going to be,that would destroy the unnecessary expectations...Because "Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu" NEVER tried to be like something it is not...It is a generic,moe romcom and people should watch/read it knowiing that... some people just can't accept the facts. Just as some people can't accept that fact that people don't like certain qualities of an anime and just bash it on the first few episodes without really even giving it a try. Shame there are some people who can't enjoy Yuki with emotion. Sure, she was completely the quiet type in the Melancholy but is still an interesting character. I can see character development on what she is trying to do for herself but I think most are just blinded at being enraged about "what is this shit?!" or so on and so forth. I feel the need to stop before I actually start to type even more of a point (that was already proven) before I wait for a reply that will make me cringe at the response. |
LoneWizard said: TheNaturalPerm said: thats not the point m8,you completely misunderstood...That would totally make the anime awesome yeah!! "You obviously can't understand the series' complexity cuz u haven't read ta mango!" I wonder who's the actual dumb fuck :^) If any of you read at least 1 chapter of the manga you would know what kind of anime this was going to be,that would destroy the unnecessary expectations...Because "Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu" NEVER tried to be like something it is not...It is a generic,moe romcom and people should watch/read it knowiing that... ah well alright. That was my bad. I thought he meant to say something like "had you read the manga this'd be a masterpiece for you~" though my point still stands then. Reading the manga doesn't make this show any better. |
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TheNaturalPerm said: Thats why you should always investigate about an anime before you start watching...or you will waste your time before dropping it...though my point still stands then. Reading the manga doesn't make this show any better. -Starting an ecchi,then dropping because of the amount of fanservice -Starting a shounen battle anime,then dropping because of instant powerups -Starting a harem anime,dropping because of overused tropes I dont understand people doing these things,its the exact same thing with this anime...After watching anime for years people should be able to adjust their expectations and stay away from the stuff they obviously will not enjoy.... |
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| Some adaptions went ahead/different of the original (Ouran Host Club, FLCL or even K-on!), so the whole previous point isn't really that good. Reading the original doesn't change anything, I'd say you can't even know if the story will become interesting later reading only the first volumes. So going to the anime directly isn't a bad idea. Usagi drop manga story & ton totally change after the first half for example. Also, a lot of people just liked the previous adaptations and wanted to see their beloved characters again, it's just normal to be disappointed to see that kind of pale shadow, going from an eccentric somewhat sf story to a cliché rom-com. Not hate, disappointement. |
SmallDanger said: I Don't hate that show. but i really pref the old drawing style. i am agree with who said that kyon looks like a kid. and the old yuki from the last film " The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumyia" was more cute than the new one. but i love the New Op so it's still the best. Well you're gonna have to live with it as this is the new style a lot of anime are adapting. Just look at Oregairu s2 and you can see that change in UBW in lieu of F/Z. |
Natusake said: Im sum you hate this show because:In sum, the events of the show do not logically follow from an alternate decision by Kyon in Disappearance. The characters do not act in the way they have been shown to act in Haruhi, without any character development The The show ends up as an average-for-anime slice of life, which, considering face value, means it's a laughably terrible show. -You thought this was the alternate universe shown in the movie,other words continuation of Disappearing of Haruhi...(It is not,it is a spinoff created by a completely different guy so even character behaviours are different) -You thought this was not a generic romcomsol...(Thats the whole premise of this spinoff:A generic,normal life for Nagato,as generic as possible,She will run around with bread in her mouth&stuff) So yea,you obviously did not know this: It's not because I didn't know it was under a different setting (because I did know) |
LoneWizzyMay 3, 2015 10:41 PM
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| This is a alternative scenario written with same characters with no ties to the original storyline...This characters are not the same characters,this is a parallel world,they born and raised in a different world so their characteristics ARE different... This is not the Kyon you know,this is not continuing the perspective of Kyon from the original series...This is just a parallel universe where everyone is normal and different...I dont know who wrote it but that plot summary is BS if it gave you the impression that this is a continuation...Read the plot summary in the MAL,thats more accurate :/ This is a "what if everyone was normal humans" not a "what if Kyon stayed in that parallel world" Natusake said: Premise is a good one?Interesting?Can you tell me what was your expectations from a parallel world where "everyone is normal"?Seriously what were you expecting other than a moe Nagato blushing occasionally?This is not something serious like you guys thought,this is just an "official doujin" to for Nagato fansIts premise is a good one, an interesting one, but the events in the show, the characters decisions, are not actually part of the premise that it advertises. |
LoneWizzyMay 3, 2015 10:51 PM
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| The whole argument of "it doesn't have to link to the original story/wolrd" makes not really any sense, because you can refute anything with that. What the point of using characters & world from Haruhi's universe if in the end all that is left are the names : not the settings, personality, story or anything related. It's just a way to gather audience from the original show, which would not be an issue if this new thing was actually good and not some flat thing already seen 100 times. The haruhi/kyon parts were actually not bad, less cliché and felt less forced, but given the show I guess this will not continue further. LoneWizard said: this is just an "official doujin" to for Nagato fans Can't see how a "Nagato fan" could be pleased with that given how the real Nagato & this one have nothing in commun aside from the look (and even this...). |
ZiassanMay 4, 2015 3:26 AM
Ziassan said: Even Kirino has fans,call it gap moe or anticipation of Dereness...Some people apparently wanted to see that side of Nagato and thus this thing became reality,dont ask me im not a Nagato fan i only watched the series for Kyon and Time-Travel aspect...Can't see how a "Nagato fan" could be pleased with that given how the real Nagato & this one have nothing in commun aside from the look (and even this...). Ziassan said: And you answered it yourself:The whole argument of "it doesn't have to link to the original story/wolrd" makes not really any sense, because you can refute anything with that. What the point of using characters & world from Haruhi's universe if in the end all that is left are the names : not the settings, personality, story or anything related. Ziassan said: It's just a way to gather audience from the original show, which would not be an issue if this new thing was actually good and not some flat thing already seen 100 times. Go watch some Saekano,OreImo,Shirobako,Bakuman or something...Japan is not that complicated...Everything does not have to be masterpiece,sometimes people create stuff just because they can...But you dont have to watch/read what they created,you are free to ignore that product instead of thinking reasons to prove why something is bad... |
LoneWizzyMay 4, 2015 3:34 AM
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| I guess people is missing one point in this anime: it's not made by the same author of the original novels. You can't expect someone to take the universe from an author and write a story around it with exactly the same intentions than it's creator. If this were possible all fanfictions could be considered more or less cannon. I guess this anime/manga is reinterpretation of the Haruhi universe by this author, that's why he has taken some liberties with the characters. With that said: Natusake said: In any case, yes, the characters are not what they were in the original. The events of Disappearance simply do not match with those in this show. It makes the anime flawed because the discontinuity is jarring and illogical. Natusake said: The characters are make inconsistent actions with their Disappearance counterparts, and the events do not logically follow from those of Disappearance. As has been said before this is supposed to be a slice of life/romantic comedy with Yuki as the main character, this was the author's intention. Disapearence was somewhat of a drama with Kyon as the MC, almost nothing on that movie/novel was played for laughs, it was trully a serious situation. It's not easy to make such a genre shift and make it feel natural. For example, if you take the Disapearence!Yuki and put her on SoL/Romcom setting you wouldn't get anything because that Yuki was as anti social as main!Yuki. So what the author did? He reimagined the story with a similar premisse in a more favorable setting. I agree with you when you say the summary does not match the anime because I guess thats not what the author tried to do. He didn't write the story starting from Kyon's decision on Disapearence, this is NOT and alternate sequel for Kyon's original decision, if this was then there should be some references of it in the first chapters/episodes. The only one who could write that would be Tanigawa himself. He (Puyo) rewrote everything starting from the moment Yuki recreated the world. The way I see it is that this is a completelly different universe from the main one and from the Disapearence one the one Puyo created for himself. He took the original idead and went for something different. In the end MAL's resume is quite acurrate because it doesn't even mention any relation to the main series. It uses the same characters, places, and have some references to the main series but that's as far as it goes. It's noticeable by the first couple of episodes. People got disapointed by assumptions they made and by watching it without making just a small research on what it was about and their judgement got clouded because of it. I'm not saying the shows is great, but it's not as bad as people is making it seem. But why didn't Puyo wrote something more loyal to the original work? For the same reason people write fanfics: because he can. The difference is that he got ofical permission to do it the way he did. TL;DR: It's not a Disapearence alternative continuity. It's a different universe made by the author. People shoudn't take this serioulsly. |
| [quote=AMAZON]This spin-off of the bestselling Haruhi Suzumiya series takes place in the world of the "Disappearance" arc of the original novels, focusing on the high school life (and romance!) of a tentative and bashful Yuki Nagato quite unlike the one you've come to know and love through the usual exploits of the SOS Brigade...but no less charming![/quote]Thanks for that link Natusake,this one is much more accurate then the animenews....Just like it is told here:This anime takes place at the Disappearence universe,not after the Disappearence movie....Its the same world BUT with one big difference:Kyon's consciousness,none of the characters remember the old world....Kyon did not go to the alternative world in this story,this Kyon was always here,he born in this world,he is the Kyon of this world,a different Kyon.... HominiLupus said: Basically this:This is a fanfic made for lulz,its not acting like something it is not,its just some people thinking it is something different...All you can do is blame those guys at animenewsnetwork and drop the anime if you came here for a continuation of that story from the movieBut why didn't Puyo wrote something more loyal to the original work? For the same reason people write fanfics: because he can. The difference is that he got ofical permission to do it the way he did. TL;DR: It's not a Disapearence alternative continuity. It's a different universe made by the author. People shoudn't take this serioulsly. |
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| Is it weird that I prefer her robotic emotionless self in the original Huruchi series, as opposed to this one? |
| As it was said before, a lot of people didn't read the synopsis, so they were expecting Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi Season Three. It is a spin-off after all, so don't judge it like it's something serious. It was made basically for Yuki fans. About an art style: it's a fucking romance-comedy, so this light "dreamy" art style fits just perfectly. I'm really enjoying watching this, but I do not recommend it if you're not a Yuki or romance/comedy genre fan. |
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pf883 said: Its not science,all you have t do is read what people say,and you will know what they DO think...Weird huh?I'm all for telling people what they should think, but trying to tell people what they do think? Good grief. "You don't know what your opinion is, I do!" |
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| As a person who only watched one of the adaptation for Haruhi; I was not too hyped for this show and I honestly thought it was going to be boring. It more or less turned out the way I thought. Nagato Yuki wasn't the most interesting character to begin with but the way she turned out in this show was not what I expected because I had no prior knowledge of the movie. What makes this even more funny is that the moments Haruhi has on screen, she basically steals the show as she is fit for the main heroine role more than Nagato Yuki. TL:DR I'm not a big fan of the franchise but to give Nagato Yuki the role of the main heroine is a bit too much for me...but nevertheless i'll continue watching it to see how this stale plot continues. |
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| Haruhi is still the best |
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Vangis605 said: Haha, I'm pretty sure there's one of these threads in every anime series. Most haters are fairly offensive in how they communicate, so you'll notice them more since they're more or less looking for attention... for whatever reason. Some complaints are completely legit tho.. People are allowed to like or dislike something. The manga has gotten pretty popular in Japan... It's on most of the front shelves in most book stores I've been to lately. Can I take it as a good change? That Japan finally change their shit taste for tsundere to kuudere? Let me party if it is. |
LoneWizard said: TheNaturalPerm said: thats not the point m8,you completely misunderstood...That would totally make the anime awesome yeah!! "You obviously can't understand the series' complexity cuz u haven't read ta mango!" I wonder who's the actual dumb fuck :^) If any of you read at least 1 chapter of the manga you would know what kind of anime this was going to be,that would destroy the unnecessary expectations...Because "Nagato Yuki-chan no Shoushitsu" NEVER tried to be like something it is not...It is a generic,moe romcom and people should watch/read it knowiing that... It's pretty much this ^ I've given up in trying to explain it to people though *sigh* Just enjoy it if you like it and drop it if you don't, easy as that. |
 "In the past few months since we met, I've shared many memories with Nagato. Though I've also shared memories with Haruhi, Asahina-san and Koizumi, I found that I've experienced more events with Nagato in particular. In fact, every situation seems to involve her. I might as well mention this, she's probably the only person to cause the bell within me to shake the most vigorously..." ~ Kyon, TMOSH |
| All I see is guys complaining how so many people apparently "hate" blindly this show, while others are actually taking time to explain what is wrong in it. |
| This anime is a mistake. It's like remaking Titanic. Replacing Leonardo with Justin B. |
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| When I start watching this I didn't expect much & I was somehow expecting to drop it & the truth is I was ready to do that until Haruhi made her appearance & the whole show began to shine, to be enjoyable, if not for Haruhi & the amazing acting of Aya Hirano this whole series it would have not any reason to exist imo, because without Haruhi it's bland & boring to death. |
| I like it a lot more than the original one. Haruhi is too damn annoying most of the times in the original series, but I like her a whole lot more now. |
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TakezoKensei said: The manga was open-front about being a generic SOL, and never tried to pretend that it wasn't, and yet, people grew ridiculous expectations for the anime all the same. Enjoy it for what it is, or admit you had erroneous pre-conceptions and leave. So as long as a show announces itself as bland everyone have to shut up and accept everything ? It uses characters & universe from a good story, it's just normal for people to expect something at least a bit interesting. And their are good "generic" SOL around there, this anime fails in numerous ways even as a SOL. It feels like people forgive everything and no complaint is allowed just because it didn't try to be something great from the start. Btw the title of this thread is misleading, I saw no "hate", mostly disappointment & letdown. |
| Honestly, I'd say the show is better than the manga, and I love the manga. It's just like, "Want to see more of that world from the movie? Here you go!" And what bugs me the most is that there are actually a significant amount of people who can't seem to realize that. |
| for me, the reason why i dislike the disappearance of yuki-chan isn't because it's different from the original series, which is why it's a spin-off. alternate timeline nagato and the new character designs don't really bother me that much either. i dislike it because there's nothing redeeming about it in terms of the plot. it's sort of just the same romcom plot we've been getting in anime for a while now, and it doesn't add anything new to the table. |
| I dislike this anime because it's effectively a bait and switch. This anime which is supposedly about Nagato is so in name only; the designs and characterizations of these characters don't resemble at all those in the original anime. The show is merely a generic low rent moe anime with characters skinned to look like those from a popular franchise in order to ride on the previous series' success and notoriety. It's understandable that the utter lack of resemblance to the original work is disappointing, and those who pretend otherwise are being obtuse. As for the argument that the anime is a reflection of the manga, then so much the worse for the manga; it's shit too. |
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nstyn4te said: Basically you say:"I dont like x==x is shit"As for the argument that the anime is a reflection of the manga, then so much the worse for the manga; it's shit too. Tell me more about yourself m8,your logic is flawless...Just like your superior taste... |
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nstyn4te said: I dislike this anime because it's effectively a bait and switch. This anime which is supposedly about Nagato is so in name only; the designs and characterizations of these characters don't resemble at all those in the original anime. The show is merely a generic low rent moe anime with characters skinned to look like those from a popular franchise in order to ride on the previous series' success and notoriety. It's understandable that the utter lack of resemblance to the original work is disappointing, and those who pretend otherwise are being obtuse. As for the argument that the anime is a reflection of the manga, then so much the worse for the manga; it's shit too. "It's different, so it's bad" |
| As one of the bigger Haruhi fans ever this show is a pain and love at the same time. I can get used to the art style, though I really miss the original, It just looked better. But what makes this show such a pain is seeing my beloved characters completely fucked up. No plot at all, the characters are so different, even the original show's humor can't apply in this seriously, I can only cry instead of laugh. This series is just Suzumiya Haruhi no yuutsu, except everything making the show interestint, got cut and only clicheed moe comedy school anime of the worse kind is left. really sad... But I still wish it goes good, so they might think of making season 3 of the real series! |
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