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Jun 26, 2014 12:48 PM

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ssjokg said:
We have 2wei as well in a week or so.
Yeah I can't wait for that. Reminds me that season 1 is underrated, hopefully season 2 gets more attention/higher score.
Would prefer if they limit the loli yuri scenes though.
Jun 26, 2014 12:55 PM

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Botato said:
ssjokg said:
We have 2wei as well in a week or so.
Yeah I can't wait for that. Reminds me that season 1 is underrated, hopefully season 2 gets more attention/higher score.
Would prefer if they limit the loli yuri scenes though.
.....Unless if they cut them to save screen time for more important stuff, then we will have a lot....cause [spoiler] of Kuro.
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[quote=ssjokg[spoiler]]Emm no?
They only cool thing about Lancy is his armor and dark aura.

Hercules could wreck everyone except Gil in both wars, and even with his mad enchantment he did everything he could to protect Ilya, even when he was blind.
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If you cant see what I'm talking about ........
Anyway , I'll say it anyway . Shirou is the kind of a retard , oops pard me ....idiot ,that does everything to get killed . If he werent babysitted by Rin , he would have died from the first episode. Rin sacrificed everything so he could stay alive , get it?
He was babysitted all along and he was white knighting in a useless manner.....over and over again refusing to use Saber.
He is exactly like Touma from Toaru........now you get what I'm saying?

Also , regarding the anime as a whole , I was looking for more intense fights than F/Z but all I got a retard white knighting in a useless manner.
FluffyFleshJun 26, 2014 1:41 PM
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Jun 26, 2014 12:58 PM

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ssjokg said:
Botato said:
Lancelot looks cooler.
In strength Heracles (or Hercules, why are there 2 different spellings?) is a demi God so he wins by default.
F/SN Lancer > both of them though. He both looks cool and is a demi God.
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.


Still the most badass dog in fictional history ;)
http://i.imgur.com/OsJKoB2.png
Jun 26, 2014 12:59 PM

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Thank you for disregarding my whole post and for proving that deen's anime is shit.

And Touma is a totally different character.

I get that you are a troll or an idiot.
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ssjokg said:
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.


Still the most badass dog in fictional history ;)
http://i.imgur.com/OsJKoB2.png
Too much praise for beating and scaring piles of shit like Shinji but true.
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HeisenDurden said:
ssjokg said:
Heracles became a god....and he has the best loli and a dog....so Heracles >dog.


Still the most badass dog in fictional history ;)
http://i.imgur.com/OsJKoB2.png
That pretty much sums it all up :D

@FlufflyFlesh Yes Shirou is an idiot, thank you for disregarding his entire characterizati- wait, you watched DEEN's anime didn't you? Oh ok never mind then.
Jun 26, 2014 1:54 PM

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I honestly don't think it will. It will probably get in the top 50 rank.
Jun 26, 2014 2:05 PM

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keragamming said:
I honestly don't think it will. It will probably get in the top 50 rank.
Why is that though?
Jun 26, 2014 5:27 PM

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Botato said:
HeisenDurden said:


Still the most badass dog in fictional history ;)
http://i.imgur.com/OsJKoB2.png
That pretty much sums it all up :D


Dat E rank Luck though.
Jun 26, 2014 6:05 PM

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antonn said:
Botato said:
That pretty much sums it all up :D


Dat E rank Luck though.
Gil's luck rank didnt help him much...
Jun 26, 2014 7:17 PM

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ssjokg said:
antonn said:


Dat E rank Luck though.
Gil's luck rank didnt help him much...


I am pretty sure ego cancels it out.
Jun 27, 2014 1:23 AM

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Fai said:
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Gil's luck rank didnt help him much...


I am pretty sure ego cancels it out.
Yes I agree. Gil is too big headed to rely on something as pathetic as "luck."
He needs no luck, he can win any fight easily. Or so he thought :p
(Well he IS supposed to, but I guess his ego not only cancels out but makes his overall luck in the negative..)
Jun 27, 2014 1:29 AM

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I dunno i have some doubts,if it was anything like the original adaptation in terms of story then it wont be as dark as fate zero and more like a shonen anime -.-
Jun 27, 2014 2:15 AM

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Knightmaretiger said:
I dunno i have some doubts,if it was anything like the original adaptation in terms of story then it wont be as dark as fate zero and more like a shonen anime -.-
So?
Why would that matter?
Dark =/= good.
Jun 27, 2014 3:24 AM

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I am not sure how FSN does not qualify as "not as dark"



Its simply not trying to be overly edgy like F/0 did.
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Jun 27, 2014 3:52 AM

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Fai said:
I am not sure how FSN does not qualify as "not as dark"

Its simply not trying to be overly edgy like F/0 did.

Ehh those two lines sort of go against each other. But either way, I remembered that people might be expecting something grim dark like F/0 which I think is also the reason Kaleid is underrated. Hopefully we don't have complaints that the show is too happy go lucky or not edgy enough for people when it airs :|
Jun 27, 2014 4:21 AM

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Botato said:
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I am not sure how FSN does not qualify as "not as dark"

Its simply not trying to be overly edgy like F/0 did.

Ehh those two lines sort of go against each other. But either way, I remembered that people might be expecting something grim dark like F/0 which I think is also the reason Kaleid is underrated. Hopefully we don't have complaints that the show is too happy go lucky or not edgy enough for people when it airs :|


Edgy does not make it "dark". Dark themes can be more subdued and well-presented. "Edgy" stuff is directly in your face all the time. F/0 had both and way too much of trying to be edgy(the story and itswriters knew its ending so they did everrrything to drive home how "DAARK AND FATALISTIC" this is).

FSN is just as dark as Fate/Zero, but the presentation of it is different.



Kaleid has enough of dark stuff. If it sticks close to the source material, 2wei's ending counts as one of darker nasuverse endings. And then 3rei surpasses it.
Jun 27, 2014 5:06 AM

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7starkiller99 said:

The real question is if it will get rated high enough to reach top 30's!

I'd say the odds are stacked against the series simply because of status quo!
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Explain further?
Jun 27, 2014 6:51 AM

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ssjokg said:
7starkiller99 said:

The real question is if it will get rated high enough to reach top 30's!

I'd say the odds are stacked against the series simply because of status quo!
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Explain further?



Methinks

Status quo = "TYpe Moon is shitty fanfic level of bullshit zero out of one" versus "Type Moon is the bestest ever ten out of ten"
Jun 27, 2014 6:01 PM
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I am a huge fan of Fate/Zero, i consider it the best serious anime, therefore i have huge expectations on Fate/Stay and i think it will be top 3 for me personally.

However i do not think it has the potential to get top 5 MAL. This is due to the fact that the fate serious is very dialogue heavy and advanced and therefore does not appeal to everyone the way other top series does, for example FMA caters to basically anyone and therefore it is #1.
Jun 27, 2014 6:13 PM
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This thread is so impossible to read with all the spoilers flying around :( so glad I can delete my memories about some spoilers easily.
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Jun 28, 2014 11:21 AM

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Anyway , on a serious note. Is this just a remake like DBZ has this year or is it something new?
Because I see people that say they "hope it wont end up like WA2" when the F/SN "original" one it has the similar ending. Kissing - objective completed - good bye forever.
"Love is a drug to our brain , it stops the thinking function and when you realize it wether you acomplish it or not you'll enter in one of the 3 withdrawal states : happy , sad or anger. Once this drug gets hold of you you'd better be prepaired beforehand." - Me
Jun 28, 2014 11:25 AM

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kikohunter said:
I can delete my memories about some spoilers easily.

wait wut
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Jun 28, 2014 11:30 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:
Anyway , on a serious note. Is this just a remake like DBZ has this year or is it something new?
Because I see people that say they "hope it wont end up like WA2" when the F/SN "original" one it has the similar ending. Kissing - objective completed - good bye forever.

You can call it a new story with some similarities with the first adaptation. Depends on how ufotable will adapt it.
Jun 28, 2014 11:32 AM

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I actually think this show will be less popular than Fate/Zero specifically because it wont have Gen Urobuchi painting walls with dead kids to keep stupid people entertained.
Jun 28, 2014 11:36 AM

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SolviteSekai said:
I actually think this show will be less popular than Fate/Zero specifically because it wont have Gen Urobuchi painting walls with dead kids to keep stupid people entertained.

People are gonna buy it because it's ufotable and it will have lots of shades and gradations.
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Jun 28, 2014 11:37 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:
Anyway , on a serious note. Is this just a remake like DBZ has this year or is it something new?
Because I see people that say they "hope it wont end up like WA2" when the F/SN "original" one it has the similar ending. Kissing - objective completed - good bye forever.

What we know so far:

Fai said:
Everything in DEEN'S animu sucked.

THis is why Ufotable wins:



Jun 28, 2014 11:37 AM

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SolviteSekai said:
I actually think this show will be less popular than Fate/Zero specifically because it wont have Gen Urobuchi painting walls with dead kids to keep stupid people entertained.

Well in Heaven's feel they have insects eating human flesh if that counts as entertaining.
Jun 28, 2014 11:38 AM

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antonn said:
FluffyFlesh said:
Anyway , on a serious note. Is this just a remake like DBZ has this year or is it something new?
Because I see people that say they "hope it wont end up like WA2" when the F/SN "original" one it has the similar ending. Kissing - objective completed - good bye forever.

What we know so far:

Fai said:
Everything in DEEN'S animu sucked.

THis is why Ufotable wins:





So you are saying UFOtable wins because they use CGI in every single scene of their shows?

CGI is a blight on anime and Fate/Zero and this new show look like shit.
Jun 28, 2014 11:48 AM

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Yep , by the looks of it it will be far greater than the old F/SN.
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Jun 28, 2014 11:49 AM

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FluffyFlesh said:
Yep , by the looks of it it will be far greater than the old F/SN.


But is it top 5 material?

Given that KnK cant even get up there I doubt this will.

It will be a really fun action series that gets replaced by the next really fun action series.
Jun 28, 2014 11:53 AM

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Even KnK has 8.5+, which means gradation and shade work, so F/SN has a chance.
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I dont know what people would call a top 5 material but if you mean if it feels like something different , nope. Just an average battle-themed anime with hystorical figures.
If you ask me as entertainment......you answered the question urself : "It will be a really fun action....."
But overall , I'm biased and I cant really tell if its top 5 material. I guess it's popularity will decide.

I mean I wasnt hyped by SnK and I consider it highly overrated but I still gave it an 8. It bored me to death untill the Annie thing(calling it a thing to avoid spoiling).
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Jun 28, 2014 12:31 PM

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It's the director and the writers who are actually mostly responsible for the faithful adaptation. The animation studio plays a minor role in comparison.
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C-Core said:
It's the director and the writers who are actually mostly responsible for the faithful adaptation. The animation studio plays a minor role in comparison.


My bad, I meant to say that's why the adaptation itself will be better than DEEN's.'
Jun 28, 2014 12:50 PM
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DawnJ said:
kikohunter said:
I can delete my memories about some spoilers easily.

wait wut


You read that right. I can use memory altering magic.
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Jun 28, 2014 12:50 PM

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I'm still laughing at people calling a show that hasnt aired yet a faithful adaptation.
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SolviteSekai said:
I'm still laughing at people calling a show that hasnt aired yet a faithful adaptation.


At least more faithful. You can't go lower than DEEN's UBW adaptation.

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SolviteSekai said:
FluffyFlesh said:
Yep , by the looks of it it will be far greater than the old F/SN.


But is it top 5 material?

Given that KnK cant even get up there I doubt this will.

It will be a really fun action series that gets replaced by the next really fun action series.
Knk 5 WAS in the top 5....as #1.

Oh and all your biased bullshit about cg dont matter at all since you are the only one who cant deal with it.This is a reply for the other thread as well.

FluffyFlesh said:
I dont know what people would call a top 5 material but if you mean if it feels like something different , nope. Just an average battle-themed anime with hystorical figures.
If you ask me as entertainment......you answered the question urself : "It will be a really fun action....."
But overall , I'm biased and I cant really tell if its top 5 material. I guess it's popularity will decide.

I mean I wasnt hyped by SnK and I consider it highly overrated but I still gave it an 8. It bored me to death untill the Annie thing(calling it a thing to avoid spoiling).
For a battle themed series it sure has few and very short fights.Sorry but no this isnt Bleach, Naruto or OP.

And I have to ask,how can you judge something by seeing an abridged version?
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ssjokg said:
SolviteSekai said:


But is it top 5 material?

Given that KnK cant even get up there I doubt this will.

It will be a really fun action series that gets replaced by the next really fun action series.
Knk 5 WAS in the top 5....as #1.

Oh and all your biased bullshit about cg dont matter at all since you are the only one who cant deal with it.This is a reply for the other thread as well.

FluffyFlesh said:
I dont know what people would call a top 5 material but if you mean if it feels like something different , nope. Just an average battle-themed anime with hystorical figures.
If you ask me as entertainment......you answered the question urself : "It will be a really fun action....."
But overall , I'm biased and I cant really tell if its top 5 material. I guess it's popularity will decide.

I mean I wasnt hyped by SnK and I consider it highly overrated but I still gave it an 8. It bored me to death untill the Annie thing(calling it a thing to avoid spoiling).
For a battle themed series it sure has few and very short fights.Sorry but no this isnt Bleach, Naruto or OP.

And I have to ask,how can you judge something by seeing an abridged version?


When you come off as this much of a fanboy its hard to take anything you say objectively.

Also this show is a battle show. Thats part of why it is over rated.

It's a battle shounen show but instead of fighting, people just insult each other and then vow to fight later.
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Yeah it is hard to take me seriously when facts are used against you.
Jun 28, 2014 1:17 PM

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ssjokg said:
Yeah it is hard to take me seriously when facts are used against you.


You haven't presented any facts.

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SolviteSekai said:
ssjokg said:
Yeah it is hard to take me seriously when facts are used against you.


You haven't presented any facts.

oh yeah, I am sorry I forgot that you want to be spoonfeed.I mean you looked so sure as if YOURS was a fact.

Http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=65760
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Jun 28, 2014 1:46 PM

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ssjokg said:
SolviteSekai said:


But is it top 5 material?

Given that KnK cant even get up there I doubt this will.

It will be a really fun action series that gets replaced by the next really fun action series.
Knk 5 WAS in the top 5....as #1.

Oh and all your biased bullshit about cg dont matter at all since you are the only one who cant deal with it.This is a reply for the other thread as well.

FluffyFlesh said:
I dont know what people would call a top 5 material but if you mean if it feels like something different , nope. Just an average battle-themed anime with hystorical figures.
If you ask me as entertainment......you answered the question urself : "It will be a really fun action....."
But overall , I'm biased and I cant really tell if its top 5 material. I guess it's popularity will decide.

I mean I wasnt hyped by SnK and I consider it highly overrated but I still gave it an 8. It bored me to death untill the Annie thing(calling it a thing to avoid spoiling).
For a battle themed series it sure has few and very short fights.Sorry but no this isnt Bleach, Naruto or OP.

And I have to ask,how can you judge something by seeing an abridged version?

You miss my point , I love F/Z and F/SN but this is about top 5 and I said.....it comes with it's popularity. I become very cynical with my own favorites when it comes to many things. I dont dig Naruto and I watch OP once in a while when I feel like a change of scenery. I dont have the patience to rewatch Bleach from 1 to 366 but I stil watch it randomly now and then. I'm very Hachiman , so to speak in anime terms , when it comes to my favs , it's just I dont admit it to anyone who picks up on them.
FluffyFleshJun 28, 2014 1:49 PM
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If we go with popularity it CAN get in the top 5.

The problem is the random hate.Like "Why isnt Urobuchi writting this", "Urobuchi wrote this I hate it"(there will be retards like this), "no Fz Rider", old hate for Shirou ,and other stuff that have nothing to do with the story.
Jun 28, 2014 2:21 PM

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ssjokg said:
If we go with popularity it CAN get in the top 5.

The problem is the random hate.Like "Why isnt Urobuchi writting this", "Urobuchi wrote this I hate it"(there will be retards like this), "no Fz Rider", old hate for Shirou ,and other stuff that have nothing to do with the story.
Worst thing would be "wth Ufotable ruined this amazing anime, the old one is better."
Yes as unlikely as it sounds I still think there's a chance that it will happen.
Jun 28, 2014 2:37 PM

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Actually, Botato, I'm sure someone will say this. Trolling or otherwise.
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Jun 28, 2014 2:55 PM

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insan3Spectre said:
Actually, Botato, I'm sure someone will say this. Trolling or otherwise.
Trolling is guaranteed 100% considering how much hate Fai ermm we keep throwing at DEEN's anime.
I am talking about someone genuinely preferring the old one, it seems unlikely, but I think it WILL happen.
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Yeah, that's what I meant by "otherwise". I think it will happen as well. Especially if, say, Saber isn't the romantic partner or something.
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It would be similar to the FMA vs FMAB wars that break out sometimes. Which just reminded me, if Ufo decides to go with a ~60 episode adaptation and it gets only one entry on MAL it could reach the top 5.
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