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Jul 15, 2012 8:40 AM

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argilium said:
what i'm interested at is your last question.. what's the cloak for, LN readers?
To cover her face? It really doesn't serve any special purpose than that.
Remember that the male to female ratio is big so if she's seen she may attract attention which Asuna doesn't want.

AshtonClaude said:

I think the biggest plot hole is that "1 month to clear 1st boss" doesnt make sense at all
It's a VR game. Everything looks realistic. The monsters are very intimidating. Most people got scared of them and get killed easily.
Also, this is the first VRMMO so no one except the beta testers know how strong are the monsters in the first level and know how to use skills/move their avatars well. People get killed again.
That's why it took a month for people to clear the first floor. After this, the floor clearing pace gets quicker and deaths lessened as the raid party showed that this game can be cleared.
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belatkuro said:
argilium said:
what i'm interested at is your last question.. what's the cloak for, LN readers?
To cover her face? It really doesn't serve any special purpose than that.
Remember that the male to female ratio is big so if she's seen she may attract attention which Asuna doesn't want.

AshtonClaude said:

I think the biggest plot hole is that "1 month to clear 1st boss" doesnt make sense at all
It's a VR game. Everything looks realistic. The monsters are very intimidating. Most people got scared of them and get killed easily.
Also, this is the first VRMMO so no one except the beta testers know how strong are the monsters in the first level and know how to use skills/move their avatars well. People get killed again.
That's why it took a month for people to clear the first floor. After this, the floor clearing pace gets quicker and deaths lessened as the raid party showed that this game can be cleared.


they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?
Jul 15, 2012 8:50 AM
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It's official Kirito is an asshole.
Jul 15, 2012 8:55 AM

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To those who feel that this was rush I am heavy LN reader of the SAO series and I felt that it included all the needed parts of the LN to lead up to the main story. Aria of the starless night was always a SS, and not many major events took place, but the key was the boss fight. The boss fight was awesome.
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AshtonClaude said:

they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?


pfft yea! if you were a freaking war vet! actually even vets admit they are scared of getting shot or ambushed in wars.
if you were in a game where majority are kids and teens while death is always looming from behind and is heavily affected mentally would you go out like " oh we have swords, potions and a book, let us kill the boss. it will be a piece of cake... lol death? im not scared." ? hmm?

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It's official Kirito is an asshole.

um... he just did that to take the blame against the b testers.
i don't get it really... a lot of people are commenting like they only saw it as RAWS...
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AshtonClaude said:
they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?
Not all adapted quickly to the situation of the death game. One slip and you'll die. Most people will just prefer to be safe inside the city.
Not all knew already how to use skills and fight the realistic monsters as well.
Potions at lower levels are only HoT or heals over time and cannot heal instantly.
The guide book are useful but putting it into practice is another thing. Sure it's filled with info but using it and fighting the monsters that are realistic with VR is an issue. The latest edition that Diabel showed was only just filled with info for the boss.
And online games are filled with anonimity. Only some know each other well like Klein's group. It's hard to trust people to go with you on hunts and not leave you when mobs show up.
That's why it still took so long.
Jul 15, 2012 9:05 AM

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man, its so much better watching kirito and sauna pwning that boss instead of just reading it :)

i suppose they are skipping some of the parts that were written in the novel but its not like it serves much of a purpose and its better this way

kirito also becomes the first beater and walks the path of a lonely solo player, the black swordsman, that time he got the beta testers and new players to stop arguing and to not be paranoid by getting them to blame him was pretty dam nice of him, he was getting praises and would of been called a hero if he didn't do that, but he walked out being known as a "beater"

can't wait for the next episode, and the 10th novel has come out, dam I'm seriously excited this summer XD

AshtonClaude said:

they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?


its because most of them event even left the starting city and are afraid to leave and level up, also the only safe way is to know how to play like the beta testers or to be in a party and learn and have them cover for you, being a solo player wit hout experience on how to play is dangerous, you saw how kleine got owned by that bull until kirito taught him, imagine the others who went out to try and clear the level and died inside the dungeons unprepared, most of the people are scared and there are few who have properly levelled up and got new equipment so its hard to form a raid party to take out the boss and even finding the boss room takes time, even for an experienced player like kirito
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belatkuro said:
AshtonClaude said:
they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?
Not all adapted quickly to the situation of the death game. One slip and you'll die..


The 'One slip you die,' makes a prime example for this episode where the leader of the group wanted the item, hence he was a beta tester and knew what would happen if he got the final kill. Look where that got him, when the boss had a different weapon than that of the beta. /His life.
Jul 15, 2012 9:09 AM

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That was a pointless-as-fuck sacrifice. He could've been healed but just said "no" for no reason. LOL.

The best part of the show is definitely the music. Actually, probably the ONLY good part.
Jul 15, 2012 9:16 AM

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Tyrel said:
belatkuro said:
AshtonClaude said:
they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?
Not all adapted quickly to the situation of the death game. One slip and you'll die..


The 'One slip you die,' makes a prime example for this episode where the leader of the group wanted the item, hence he was a beta tester and knew what would happen if he got the final kill. Look where that got him, when the boss had a different weapon than that of the beta. /His life.


Its all well and good saying there are thousands of players and potions and guides but as others said just know from the guide book is not enough, its hard to put those things into practice. Also the potions are healing over time and are not instant and are low level weak ones, the instant heals are crystals and are very expensive i dont think they exist on the low levels also those crystals are banned on later boss room levels.

The whole oh there are thousands of peopole you can just rush together firstly that might work on the first level but no one would level up what about later levels? and there will obviously be people who die even if they rush all at once. Do you want to be the one that dies?

People can die in this and most of them are scared actualy most of them are hiding in the starter city. The frontliners are the minority and they were doing fine against the boss till he killed one of them. Then fear overtook them and they faltered and paniced. Fighting bosses or even monsters are scary you cant blame them. People die from simple mistakes and fear one of the reasons why 2000 of them are dead already.
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Jul 15, 2012 9:17 AM
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too afraid to hunt ? lol as the maker of that online world, how could he feel entertained if they only see players just sitting, eat and sleep for a month ?

the GM should make a rule to hunt or to be at the next level at certain time or if dont they will die automatically

coz it's so freaking boring if players just be at inn, park do nothing and expect the others to clear the monster lol
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belatkuro said:
AshtonClaude said:
they have sword, potion, guide book and still scare ? there are thousands players there, and they can hunt together, why should scare ?
Not all adapted quickly to the situation of the death game. One slip and you'll die. Most people will just prefer to be safe inside the city.
Not all knew already how to use skills and fight the realistic monsters as well.
Potions at lower levels are only HoT or heals over time and cannot heal instantly.
The guide book are useful but putting it into practice is another thing. Sure it's filled with info but using it and fighting the monsters that are realistic with VR is an issue. The latest edition that Diabel showed was only just filled with info for the boss.
And online games are filled with anonimity. Only some know each other well like Klein's group. It's hard to trust people to go with you on hunts and not leave you when mobs show up.
That's why it still took so long.


Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.
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It seems that there are many people who got confused with the detail because they didn't watch this episode thoroughly :(
Jul 15, 2012 9:19 AM

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AshtonClaude said:
too afraid to hunt ? lol as the maker of that online world, how could he feel entertained if they only see players just sitting, eat and sleep for a month ?

the GM should make a rule to hunt or to be at the next level at certain time or if dont they will die automatically

coz it's so freaking boring if players just be at inn, park do nothing and expect the others to clear the monster lol


You can't live in a inn and, get food on the starter money forever eventually they will have to go into some trade or another to make money
Jul 15, 2012 9:22 AM

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DraconisMarch said:
That was a pointless-as-fuck sacrifice. He could've been healed but just said "no" for no reason. LOL.

The best part of the show is definitely the music. Actually, probably the ONLY good part.


in some mmorpgs potions don't heal immediately but over a period time, you would need to get to higher levels to get potions that heal immediately, its the same for SAO he knew he was going to die, there was no way he could take 3 direct attacks from that boss and not have his life reduced to 0, kirito would have just wasted that valuable potion on him when he was already dead and considering he wanted him to fight that boss he needed it more than a deadman like him
Jul 15, 2012 9:26 AM

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MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.
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AshtonClaude said:
too afraid to hunt ? lol as the maker of that online world, how could he feel entertained if they only see players just sitting, eat and sleep for a month ?

the GM should make a rule to hunt or to be at the next level at certain time or if dont they will die automatically

coz it's so freaking boring if players just be at inn, park do nothing and expect the others to clear the monster lol


if there was a risk of losing your life of course people would stay in the inns and stay dafe, also the people who got bored were probably part of that 2000 who died

im not gonna answer that first question/reply to your first point because thats major spoilers, I'm not even gonna put in a spoiler tag for you or anything because its way too big
Jul 15, 2012 9:33 AM

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TK8 said:
MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.


I don't remember him saying that exactly he said something like...

v reasons for making it
Jul 15, 2012 9:42 AM

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MidnightPride said:
TK8 said:
MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.


I don't remember him saying that exactly he said something like...

v reasons for making it


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MidnightPride said:
TK8 said:
MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.


I don't remember him saying that exactly he said something like...

v reasons for making it


I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear, but that was just a speculation on my part.

In ep. 1 he said something like :'I wanted to create my own world to observe and admire'
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I must say at first this Anime sounded quite cheesy for me and ep1 wasn't really good but ep2 opened my mind for this Anime.. the development within some characters this episode was quite straight forward - good. Gonna keep an eye on it now.
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kamikaze_1996 said:
MidnightPride said:
TK8 said:
MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.


I don't remember him saying that exactly he said something like...

v reasons for making it




Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.
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MidnightPride said:

Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.


see, I believe in thousands of player there are many brave players like him, and I know he wont wait a month to just clear first floor

in SAO there are too many noobs and pussy player lol, and they call themselves a boy, no wonder many players used female avatar before, coz yeah they are pussy and weak like girl
Jul 15, 2012 11:15 AM

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What was with that ending? There's been literally nothing to suggest he's capable of putting on an act like that, regardless of his intensions it's just uncharacteristic. Also, being cold to the chick he was clearly drooling over? I don't know, it was just a weird end to a good episode.
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AshtonClaude said:
MidnightPride said:

Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.


see, I believe in thousands of player there are many brave players like him, and I know he wont wait a month to just clear first floor

in SAO there are too many noobs and pussy player lol, and they call themselves a boy, no wonder many players used female avatar before, coz yeah they are pussy and weak like girl


Guess you'd possibly be one of the 5000 on the frontlines dying, then.
Jul 15, 2012 11:28 AM

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Wow, taking on the first boss in the second episode already. They're really moving it along. Very nice battle though. Kirito got a nice coat out of it, which makes him look real badass. Asuna is a skilled warrior but a beginner at all MMO jargon it seems. I like her design and I hope we'll see more of them together soon.

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MidnightPride said:
kamikaze_1996 said:
MidnightPride said:
TK8 said:
MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.


I don't remember him saying that exactly he said something like...

v reasons for making it




Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.


He just wants to play god. He did say that he controlled the world in the game, which means he can technically do anything he wanted in there.

I can't believe there aren't any hackers in the game. In a game so popular, I would expect a few hackers to have bought the game and screwed with it.
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rl1dragon said:
MidnightPride said:
kamikaze_1996 said:
MidnightPride said:
TK8 said:
MidnightPride said:
Ya human psychology plays a huge role for players some adapt fast like kirito and, head out to questing and, grinding asap to boost his level and, get more items while others like asuna take a while to adapt and, even more some never adapt and, live in the safe zones hoping either someone will eventually clear the game or that they can live in the game forever.


Isn't this part of the makers intentions for making the game (I forgot his name), to see how people react in such a situation.


I don't remember him saying that exactly he said something like...

v reasons for making it




Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.


He just wants to play god. He did say that he controlled the world in the game, which means he can technically do anything he wanted in there.

I can't believe there aren't any hackers in the game. In a game so popular, I would expect a few hackers to have bought the game and screwed with it.


There is a hacking scene later on but, hacking requires you to edit or add files which is nearly impossible to do if your playing the game or in it.
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When I saw the battle I remembered games like FF. Even I haven't played that kind of games.
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Saineria said:
AshtonClaude said:
MidnightPride said:

Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.


see, I believe in thousands of player there are many brave players like him, and I know he wont wait a month to just clear first floor

in SAO there are too many noobs and pussy player lol, and they call themselves a boy, no wonder many players used female avatar before, coz yeah they are pussy and weak like girl


Guess you'd possibly be one of the 5000 on the frontlines dying, then.


I didnt play SAO and Im still alive so your argument is invalid
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Good episode overall. I didnt really understand why Kirito went into asshole mode at the end but that got clarified in this forum. I am still unsure why he disbanded from that girl, may that'll become clear later on.

One thing is that we know they all have their irl appearance from ep1 but there doesn't seem to be a large age gap between the players. At least, most of them seemed to be dudes :).
Jul 15, 2012 12:48 PM

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ernst said:
Why are they skipping things? Man, directors never learn. Maybe UFOtable should have gotten this, atleast animation will be decent


Ys ths sad thing tends to happen in Light Novel adaptions. I was hoping this would be different. But yeah Ufotable should get these LNs, they know how to make it work like they did with Fate/zero

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TheDodo said:
Good episode overall. I didnt really understand why Kirito went into asshole mode at the end but that got clarified in this forum. I am still unsure why he disbanded from that girl, may that'll become clear later on.

One thing is that we know they all have their irl appearance from ep1 but there doesn't seem to be a large age gap between the players. At least, most of them seemed to be dudes :).


There usually aren't that many females play on mmorpgs...
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What was with that ending? There's been literally nothing to suggest he's capable of putting on an act like that, regardless of his intensions it's just uncharacteristic. Also, being cold to the chick he was clearly drooling over? I don't know, it was just a weird end to a good episode.


Kirito has one of those personalities that tend to lean on the cowardly side however just the same when something pushes him and, is backing him even if it wants to run away he will step forward. Just the way it works and, as for him leaving the girl behind it was pretty obvious kirito doesn't like to be in parties like he said he doesn't want peoples deaths on his hands.
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MidnightPride said:
TheDodo said:
Good episode overall. I didnt really understand why Kirito went into asshole mode at the end but that got clarified in this forum. I am still unsure why he disbanded from that girl, may that'll become clear later on.

One thing is that we know they all have their irl appearance from ep1 but there doesn't seem to be a large age gap between the players. At least, most of them seemed to be dudes :).


There usually aren't that many females play on mmorpgs...


In the few mmorpgs I played I didn't even pay attention to gender.

Even though there is this gamer stereotype, there seem to be very few fat people playing SAO. I think I saw one in episode 1.
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AshtonClaude said:
Saineria said:
AshtonClaude said:
MidnightPride said:

Ya don't we all =/ I would love living in a mmo like sword art online but, that doesn't mean he can go trapping people who may not feel that way :S If sword art online was real i know i would play it even with the chance of death.


see, I believe in thousands of player there are many brave players like him, and I know he wont wait a month to just clear first floor

in SAO there are too many noobs and pussy player lol, and they call themselves a boy, no wonder many players used female avatar before, coz yeah they are pussy and weak like girl


Guess you'd possibly be one of the 5000 on the frontlines dying, then.


I didnt play SAO and Im still alive so your argument is invalid


You missed my point.
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Wow. They skipped and changed enormous parts of this story.

Argo the Rat is completely non-existent, which means the hilarious bathing scene with Asuna in Kirito's house can't be shown. Plus a number of hilarious scenes...

Kirito's first meeting with Asuna is completely different.

In the novels, Kirito meets Asuna in a dungeon full of monsters. Asuna is grinding by herself relentlessly, and her <Linear> sword skill captures his attention, it reminds him of a shooting star hence the title of the side story <Aria in the Starless Night>. Her reckless fighting style causes Kirito to talk to her. He later learns she was grinding for 3 days straight. While talking with her, she collapses from fatigue, so Kirito has to bring her out.

In the anime, Kirito first meets Asuna during the meeting, but in the novels, he already knew Asuna before the meeting. The bread scene was done right before the meeting, rather than after like in the anime. Kibaou seems to entirely forget about his hatred for Kirito, but in the novels it's expanded on...

As for people wondering why Kirito disbanded with Asuna at the end, think about it. Kirito is a solo player. He wouldn't join parties if he didn't have to.

Argo the Rat is a former beta tester who sells information, and knows Kirito. There was suppose to be this whole drama where she starts selling information for free(which is the guide book that's shown in the anime), which greatly surprises Kirito. Argo's client, who is later revealed to be Diabel, tries to buy Kirito's sword, in an effort to keep Kirito from getting the last attack bonus. Btw, Kirito knew Diabel in the beta version, albeit Diabel had a different name and stuff.

Also, at the last scene where Asuna learns Kirito's name... in the novels, Kirito was already on the 2nd floor, overlooking the vast view with Asuna, where they chatted for a bit. In the anime, it was still the 1st floor with a plain view...

And they didn't explain Kirito's actions during the beater scene, so people new to this might not get it. Kirito knew that the conflict between Beta testers and normal players would eventually grow into a war. To prevent this, Kirito had to do something to put all the hate onto himself. This way, the conflict between beta testers and players would disappear. Which is why Kirito had that attitude, and took the role of a beater. The anime should of added more internal monologues... Or wait, how about not cram the whole freakin' side story into a single episode, yeah? They could of made it into 3 episodes. 1, detailing Kirito's and Asuna's meeting and stuff. 2, the boss meeting and rising conflicts between beta testers and players. Heck you could add Argo the Rat into the mix. 3, the boss battle, and beater scene. Perfect.

Too many changes. I'm disappointed but at the same time, I can't complain. I love SAO, and seeing it animated is good enough. As long as it doesn't reach Tsukihime levels of disappointment, I can rest easy.

However... I'm worried about next episode's <Red-nosed Reindeer>. Really, if they rush through all that and skip some scenes like they did in this episode... I don't know. This 10/10 just might become a 9/10. Well, since they're rushing it like this, I suppose we can expect Fairy Dance after episode 13 with the new OP/ED.
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Haha, he's a beater.

It was a fine episode. I don't see how it's rushed other than the fact that people are comparing it to the source.
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As a former WoW player I find this show pretty hilarious at times xD I really like it though, can't wait for the next one :D

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TK8 said:
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TheDodo said:
Good episode overall. I didnt really understand why Kirito went into asshole mode at the end but that got clarified in this forum. I am still unsure why he disbanded from that girl, may that'll become clear later on.

One thing is that we know they all have their irl appearance from ep1 but there doesn't seem to be a large age gap between the players. At least, most of them seemed to be dudes :).


There usually aren't that many females play on mmorpgs...


In the few mmorpgs I played I didn't even pay attention to gender.

Even though there is this gamer stereotype, there seem to be very few fat people playing SAO. I think I saw one in episode 1.


Maybe I'm just stereotyping but, from videos and, etc. about otakus and, gamers in both korea and, japan there weren't many fat ones. It's probably due to the japanese diet which is extremely good compared to america started diets
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Good episode overall. I didnt really understand why Kirito went into asshole mode at the end but that got clarified in this forum. I am still unsure why he disbanded from that girl, may that'll become clear later on.

One thing is that we know they all have their irl appearance from ep1 but there doesn't seem to be a large age gap between the players. At least, most of them seemed to be dudes :).


There usually aren't that many females play on mmorpgs...


In the few mmorpgs I played I didn't even pay attention to gender.

Even though there is this gamer stereotype, there seem to be very few fat people playing SAO. I think I saw one in episode 1.


Maybe I'm just stereotyping but, from videos and, etc. about otakus and, gamers in both korea and, japan there weren't many fat ones. It's probably due to the japanese diet which is extremely good compared to america started diets


You're right.
For a moment I forgot that it was in Japan and used an American stereotype.
My bad.
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Wow. They skipped and changed enormous parts of this story.

Argo the Rat is completely non-existent, which means the hilarious bathing scene with Asuna in Kirito's house can't be shown. Plus a number of hilarious scenes...

Kirito's first meeting with Asuna is completely different.

In the novels, Kirito meets Asuna in a dungeon full of monsters. Asuna is grinding by herself relentlessly, and her <Linear> sword skill captures his attention, it reminds him of a shooting star hence the title of the side story <Aria in the Starless Night>. Her reckless fighting style causes Kirito to talk to her. He later learns she was grinding for 3 days straight. While talking with her, she collapses from fatigue, so Kirito has to bring her out.

In the anime, Kirito first meets Asuna during the meeting, but in the novels, he already knew Asuna before the meeting. The bread scene was done right before the meeting, rather than after like in the anime. Kibaou seems to entirely forget about his hatred for Kirito, but in the novels it's expanded on...

Argo the Rat is a former beta tester who sells information, and knows Kirito. There was suppose to be this whole drama where she starts selling information for free(which is the guide book that's shown in the anime), which greatly surprises Kirito. Argo's client, who is later revealed to be Diabel, tries to buy Kirito's sword, in an effort to keep Kirito from getting the last attack bonus. Btw, Kirito knew Diabel in the beta version, albeit Diabel had a different name and stuff.

Also, at the last scene where Asuna learns Kirito's name... in the novels, Kirito was already on the 2nd floor, overlooking the vast view with Asuna, where they chatted for a bit. In the anime, it was still the 1st floor with a plain view...

And they didn't explain Kirito's actions during the beater scene, so people new to this might not get it. Kirito knew that the conflict between Beta testers and normal players would eventually grow into a war. To prevent this, Kirito had to do something to put all the hate onto himself. This way, the conflict between beta testers and players would disappear. Which is why Kirito had that attitude, and took the role of a beater. The anime should of added more internal monologues... Or wait, how about not cram the whole freakin' side story into a single episode, yeah? They could of made it into 3 episodes. 1, detailing Kirito's and Asuna's meeting and stuff. 2, the boss meeting and rising conflicts between beta testers and players. Heck you could add Argo the Rat into the mix. 3, the boss battle, and beater scene. Perfect.

Too many changes. I'm disappointed but at the same time, I can't complain. I love SAO, and seeing it animated is good enough. As long as it doesn't reach Tsukihime levels of disappointment, I can rest easy.

However... I'm worried about next episode's <Red-nosed Reindeer>. Really, if they rush through all that and skip some scenes like they did in this episode... I don't know. This 10/10 just might become a 9/10. Well, since they're rushing it like this, I suppose we can expect Fairy Dance after episode 13 with the new OP/ED.


Most likely all of the side chapters in vol.2 will be "rushed" as 1 episode filler types just my guess though and, even with the difference I still think it's great. I wish they had kept the argo in it but, the order in which events doesn't really matter in this case since the point was made and, was clear.
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i noticed that the next episodes name is "red nose reindeer", the story is going pretty fast,
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i noticed that the next episodes name is "red nose reindeer", the story is going pretty fast, if its going "that part" this quick, im gonna need to prepare some tissues for whats about to come :(


Stop spoiling.
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I loved this episode more than the first one actually. I agree with you, Yuki Kajiura's soundtrack is powerful. I didn't understand though why on earth Kitiro left them in the end!
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When does the next episode come out?
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Arkane said:
Wow. They skipped and changed enormous parts of this story.

Argo the Rat is completely non-existent, which means the hilarious bathing scene with Asuna in Kirito's house can't be shown. Plus a number of hilarious scenes...

Kirito's first meeting with Asuna is completely different.

In the novels, Kirito meets Asuna in a dungeon full of monsters. Asuna is grinding by herself relentlessly, and her <Linear> sword skill captures his attention, it reminds him of a shooting star hence the title of the side story <Aria in the Starless Night>. Her reckless fighting style causes Kirito to talk to her. He later learns she was grinding for 3 days straight. While talking with her, she collapses from fatigue, so Kirito has to bring her out.

In the anime, Kirito first meets Asuna during the meeting, but in the novels, he already knew Asuna before the meeting. The bread scene was done right before the meeting, rather than after like in the anime. Kibaou seems to entirely forget about his hatred for Kirito, but in the novels it's expanded on...

As for people wondering why Kirito disbanded with Asuna at the end, think about it. Kirito is a solo player. He wouldn't join parties if he didn't have to.

Argo the Rat is a former beta tester who sells information, and knows Kirito. There was suppose to be this whole drama where she starts selling information for free(which is the guide book that's shown in the anime), which greatly surprises Kirito. Argo's client, who is later revealed to be Diabel, tries to buy Kirito's sword, in an effort to keep Kirito from getting the last attack bonus. Btw, Kirito knew Diabel in the beta version, albeit Diabel had a different name and stuff.

Also, at the last scene where Asuna learns Kirito's name... in the novels, Kirito was already on the 2nd floor, overlooking the vast view with Asuna, where they chatted for a bit. In the anime, it was still the 1st floor with a plain view...

And they didn't explain Kirito's actions during the beater scene, so people new to this might not get it. Kirito knew that the conflict between Beta testers and normal players would eventually grow into a war. To prevent this, Kirito had to do something to put all the hate onto himself. This way, the conflict between beta testers and players would disappear. Which is why Kirito had that attitude, and took the role of a beater. The anime should of added more internal monologues... Or wait, how about not cram the whole freakin' side story into a single episode, yeah? They could of made it into 3 episodes. 1, detailing Kirito's and Asuna's meeting and stuff. 2, the boss meeting and rising conflicts between beta testers and players. Heck you could add Argo the Rat into the mix. 3, the boss battle, and beater scene. Perfect.

Too many changes. I'm disappointed but at the same time, I can't complain. I love SAO, and seeing it animated is good enough. As long as it doesn't reach Tsukihime levels of disappointment, I can rest easy.

However... I'm worried about next episode's <Red-nosed Reindeer>. Really, if they rush through all that and skip some scenes like they did in this episode... I don't know. This 10/10 just might become a 9/10. Well, since they're rushing it like this, I suppose we can expect Fairy Dance after episode 13 with the new OP/ED.


How many episodes should <Red-nosed Reindeer> take in your opinion?
Because on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sword_Art_Online_episodes

it shows the first 5 titles for the episodes.

1. The World of Swords"
2. Beater
3.The Red-Nosed Reindeer
4. The Black Swordsman
5. A Murder Case in the Area

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When does the next episode come out?

Usually comes out every Saturday (US/CANADA Timezone), pretty much sunday for japan time.
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When does the next episode come out?


Sadly, in 6 days
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Kirito with Asuna, the golden partnership remind me of Ryner and Ferris from denyuden, love it
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Would have been nice to see Diabel a bit more. He sounded like he was a major player of some sorts and then got killed in the same episode.

Also, the notes people are making that instead of a guide book there was a beta tester information seller sounds good. May have to check out the LNs to read up on it!
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