Which do you prefer?
Only subs - original audio is best.
45.9%
1,121
Mostly subbed, some dubbed.
29.7%
725
Only dubbed - I like it in my native language.
2.3%
57
Mostly dubbed, some subbed.
8.0%
195
Both subbed and dubbed equally.
11.5%
280
Raw.
2.6%
64
2,442 votes
| who the hell calls pokemon pocket monsters, even the japanese are too lazy to type pocket monsters so they just call it pokemon. shows how much you know your source material. |
tigermaskV said: if you resd the kana script any pokemon products iポケットモンスター thats Poketto Monsutā no you fail sigh what a noob. just cause super mario bros is printed on the box does it mean everyone calls it super mario bros? no, usally it is just called mario. so if we were debated about mario I would say who the hell calls it super mario bros. oh here is some proof http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php this is a famous japanses art website you can clearly see that the 7th most popular tag is ポケモン pwned. oh were is pocket monsters you ask? it has only 11k tags while pokemon has 207k tags so clearly they favor pokemon over pocket monster which I clearly stated. shows how much you know your source material. your's is right but mine is more right. |
tigermaskV said: but alot of Dubs to Chage names and Context of Dialogue and Even the wholw name pf the Anime Macross or Gachaman for example also Look at the Edits Pocket Monsters Had Name Changes pf attack and Character Names Music Charges also Scene edits and even full Epiosdes were not Dubbed Same With Digimon DBZ Dropped the Son from Goku Name the Show how little Funimation Knows about were he Core of Dragon ball is based Seiyuki[ Journey to the West ] Son Goku = Monkey King or Sun Wukong in Mandarin Chinese Leern your Source Material you Idiots also any thing to do with Seiyuki Should never have been Dubbed cause there is no context to Spot filler for People not Familiari with the Novel What the hell is this? Not only are a lot of these arguments false (names are rarely changed, "Son Goku" was in the DBZ dub), I can barely tell what some of it is saying. Please learn some more English before gracing us with your presence again. |
| I prefer dubs over subs mainly because I like to watch every detail of what's going on in the scenes and subs can sometimes subtract from that experience. It's just something you have to sacrifice, sometimes unknowingly, for subs. Although, I don't find that same luxury with live action with dubs, be it Japanese or another language because it never seems to feel right with what I'm hearing and seeing, like it's too manufactured. Also, I can't watch poorly dubbed anime unless it's for mocking purposes. But with time, companies like funimation have gotten better at it. |
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Lordcrab86 said: opinions can also be wrong as well, just as much as opinions can be subjective as well. i can basically say "i disagree with your opinion and here's why..."; no matter what you say in life, someone else is gonna make a claim regarding your one comment. also, when someone says something along the lines of: "ALL DUBZ SUKC!! SUBZ FTW!! LOLOL XD" of course there's gonna be a reply from someone telling him/her they're wrong and what not. sure some people tend to come off as harsh regarding this (myself including), but for me i tend to be calm about it because i don't wanna come off as a bully. yes i can ignore any of these posts and i do, let alone post anything in this thread because i know that i have more important stuff to do that scan this thread costantly for posts that bug me. Well, conratulations on missing the point of what I said, ah well I wasn't expecting everyone to see it, hoping for it sure, but not really expecting it. The point wasn't "don't post" nor was it "you can't disagree with opinions" This thread would hardly still be alive if that was the case. I merely said that if you post something back at them, please make it something more than a post saying "your opinion sucks" The basis of dicussion is expecting people to read your replies, if it's someone who is not likely to do so, why reply in the first place. I would never post something while simply assuming "who cares what I write, no one will read it anyways" If you reply to someone, you should at least try to ask why they hold their opinion, maybe give a small view of your opinion. If you just reply to "in my opinion sub/dub sucks" messages with a "well your opinion sucks", it's ultimately pointless. Oh, and I don't want to tell you to not do oneline posts either, I just wanted to note that it's pretty ridiculous to critic people for doing baseless one line opinion statements by doing just another one line statement. And in these cases while the original at least gives, albeit maybe a baseless one, an opinion on the subject of the thread, the reply is only giving a opinion or in some cases a comment about their opinion. I think replies should be formed with the intention of actually conversing things, not just to get to say something back at someone. |
SithaApr 15, 2011 6:20 AM
Mow123 said: tigermaskV said: if you resd the kana script any pokemon products iポケットモンスター thats Poketto Monsutā no you fail sigh what a noob. just cause super mario bros is printed on the box does it mean everyone calls it super mario bros? no, usally it is just called mario. so if we were debated about mario I would say who the hell calls it super mario bros. oh here is some proof http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php this is a famous japanses art website you can clearly see that the 7th most popular tag is ポケモン pwned. oh were is pocket monsters you ask? it has only 11k tags while pokemon has 207k tags so clearly they favor pokemon over pocket monster which I clearly stated. shows how much you know your source material. your's is right but mine is more right. I acutally do call it Super Mario Bros. I usually use the full name of the game I'm talking about. |
DonkeyKong said: Subs: + : . If you like to pirate (like 90% of people on MAL) your anime and follow the last airing episode, then sub is better in that case . Some of your favorite (pirated) shows never got a dub, so sub is better in that case . Subs are a lot easier to (pirate) find on the internet . They are good advertising (pirated) . Sometimes the voice acting is good Oh, no, those guys from the Department of Homeland Security have infiltrated MAL!!! On a more serious note, it's not that difficult to find dubbed anime on the net. To possible DHS sleepers on MAL, I'm not implying I have ever downloaded or streamed anime from such sites, after all it's illegal, I would never commit such grave offense. No, not me, me nice. |
metamorphiusApr 15, 2011 8:29 AM
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Onibokusu said: I guess hearing people call him Goku Son would have been awkward in english.Actually, that's incorrect. 'Son' is Goku's family name: Son Gohan (Sr.) Son Goku Son Gohan (Jr.) Son Goten 'Son' happens to reference something that is a descendant, or the 'continuing' of something. In fact, Goku's name has nothing to do with monkeys or kings, it just happens to be how the Japanese say 'Sun Wukong', the name of the main character from The Journey's to the West. Sun Wukong does not mean 'Monkey King'. Chi-chi, Pan and Videl can all be considered to be a part of the Son family too. 'Son' was most likely dropped from Goku's name by FUNimation and other localisation studios to make the character names easier to say and cooler sounding. |
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| They changed the names of Digimon because it's a KIDS SHOW! In order for their names to be easy to say/remember, they changed their name slightly. They did a good job with the dub names, they're either shortened or left the same. It's not that big of a deal, even if they completely change the names like in Pokemon. And since it's a kids show, the kids watching it don't give a shit if their original name is some pun. Do you think that American kids are going to understand that "Hikari" means light? No. Complain about name changing when they do it to the newest licensed series on DVD, not when they change the names for a children's show that aired 10 years ago. Some people are just ridiculous holding grudges for things like that. |
Onibokusu said: 'Son' was most likely dropped from Goku's name by FUNimation and other localisation studios to make the character names easier to say and cooler sounding. I am pretty sure I recall hearing "Son Goku" more than once in DBZ's dub. It's been a long time, but I always knew that was his name, and I don't know how else I would have found out. |
im not Holding Grudges Its Disrespect to the Original Manga Ka  Yes you ARE holding a grudge because you don't want to understand why they made the changes in the dub |
tigermaskV said: Ousto said: They changed the names of Digimon because it's a KIDS SHOW! In order for their names to be easy to say/remember, they changed their name slightly. They did a good job with the dub names, they're either shortened or left the same. It's not that big of a deal, even if they completely change the names like in Pokemon. And since it's a kids show, the kids watching it don't give a shit if their original name is some pun. Do you think that American kids are going to understand that "Hikari" means light? No. Complain about name changing when they do it to the newest licensed series on DVD, not when they change the names for a children's show that aired 10 years ago. Some people are just ridiculous holding grudges for things like that. So your saying you Yank Kids are Dumb all Japanese Dubs of Us Cartoons keep the Names and always Have So Just to Point that Out im not Holding Grudges Its Disrespect to the Original Manga Ka When I first played Pokemon Red when I was eight, I would not have known what to make of "fushigidane". I know today that fushigidane means "isn't it strange?" and is a nice start to the long series of very strange creatures to come, but that simply would not have worked in English. You wouldn't name something "Isntitstrange", would you? What I'm saying is, I believe NOT changing them would have been disrespectful because in changing languages, the names lose their punny natures and thus ruins a charming part of the games and anime. Also: What I wouldn't give for a Pokemon Special anime~ |
KuyuApr 15, 2011 11:41 AM
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| Subs, I've been studying japanese for a while now and so I barely need to glance at them. The original voice actors are usually far superior to the crappy dubs we get handed to us. Having said that there have been instances where the dub has surpassed the sub, examples follow : Hellsing OVA Black Lagoon Gundam Wing - so as a rule subbed anime is better - but there are very rare cases where the dubs excel |
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Razzledazzy said: so cause you said that it makes me wrong right? it changes what everyone else calls it riiightt? I don't think calling mario super mario bros is near as bad as calling pokemon pocket monsters see first off pocket monsters is japanese only if your not speaking japanese why would you use it and even if you were using japanese alot of people still call it pokemon. Mow123 said: tigermaskV said: if you resd the kana script any pokemon products iポケットモンスター thats Poketto Monsutā no you fail sigh what a noob. just cause super mario bros is printed on the box does it mean everyone calls it super mario bros? no, usally it is just called mario. so if we were debated about mario I would say who the hell calls it super mario bros. oh here is some proof http://www.pixiv.net/tags.php this is a famous japanses art website you can clearly see that the 7th most popular tag is ポケモン pwned. oh were is pocket monsters you ask? it has only 11k tags while pokemon has 207k tags so clearly they favor pokemon over pocket monster which I clearly stated. shows how much you know your source material. your's is right but mine is more right. I acutally do call it Super Mario Bros. I usually use the full name of the game I'm talking about. whatever there are too many dumb questions here/opinions yours is at least reasonable, unlike the fags that say all of something is one way. |
| subbed mostly... for exceptions see "Golden Boy" |
tigermaskV said: But they Dub Punny anime Like Azumanga or Lucky star all the Jokes are lost the humor in both lucky star and azumanga daioh are filled with japanese puns, puns that not many people outside of japan are gonna get, so of course some of them would get lost in translation because if it was still kept in the english dub, not a lot of people would get them. |
"everyone knows that the last toes are always the coldest to go." Telavators-the mars volta |
tigermaskV said: but thay were kept in i guess it's to stay close to the original script, but a majority of the time the puns are changed so that they'd be more easier to understand. |
"everyone knows that the last toes are always the coldest to go." Telavators-the mars volta |
| Mostly Subbed I think the japanese voices match really well English just sounds weird but reading is a pain sometimes wish I can understand it :D |
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tigermaskV said: at Lest Dubbers have Not Changed a Full name of of the Anime any more like thay did with Golion or mecha Go GO GO or what Saban did to Super Sentai Metal Heros and Kamen Rider And would you mind telling us where Golion was more popular? |
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tigermaskV said: ARXLaevatein said: tigermaskV said: at Lest Dubbers have Not Changed a Full name of of the Anime any more like thay did with Golion or mecha Go GO GO or what Saban did to Super Sentai Metal Heros and Kamen Rider And would you mind telling us where Golion was more popular? In Hong Kong and Philippines like all most early 80's Super Robots that were Licensed But Google search results show that Voltron has way many more hits than Golion does. |
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| Subbed. Japanes voices sounds much greater than the english voices. So yeahhh... Sub > Dub for me. |
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tigermaskV said: i happen to be born in Japan but i live in uk now cause of work i work for Bandai so because you work for Bandai in uk which doesn't exist (unless your talking about the toy company or Beez Entertainment) all those japanese people on pixiv are wrong. Iam tired of arguing agaist sombody who uses things equivalent to the chewbacca defense. do your self a favor and reread all the stuff and think about it cause it won't make any sense. btw what the hell are you talking about, the puns were changed in azumang daioh Iam reading the dub notes right now and it says stuff like, (this joke was changed because it was a pun) Iam mean lets face it you can barely type on the keyboard claim that you dislike dub company but then say you work for one, clearly you're making stuff up or you're considered by many to be really dumb. |
Onibokusu said: Redfoxoffire said: 'Son Goku' has only been used in Dragon Ball Z Kai's dub, and it was only once. It was used in the more accurate speech Goku made after turning Super Saiyan, as opposed to the substituted (yet cooler sounding) 'I Am' speech (inspired by Superman).Onibokusu said: 'Son' was most likely dropped from Goku's name by FUNimation and other localisation studios to make the character names easier to say and cooler sounding. I am pretty sure I recall hearing "Son Goku" more than once in DBZ's dub. It's been a long time, but I always knew that was his name, and I don't know how else I would have found out. Odd...Is there any way to find out for sure if it was or wasn't ever used without actually watching all the episodes? I know I heard it from somewhere, and I haven't watched a minute of DBZ Kai. |
| yeah suuure whatever. anyways back to them pokemonz. explain to me why somebody who "knows all about this" did not know that the popular way to spell pokemon is spelled ポケモン. not only that but also nobody calls it pocket monsters in english so why would you use the more obscure way that is only valid in japanese in english? Ill tell you why you have a bias for Japan, so a large amount of you're opinions will be scewed. if we were talking japanese I wouldn't care at all if you called it pocket monsters but we aren't speaking japanese. who gives a crap if satoshi's name was changed, all of the animation storywriting script voice acting ect. was all down the crapper because of his name was changed? why stop there we don't need stupid names that hold meaning to us english people like jigglypuff (a puff ball that is jiggly) we much rather have the meaningless to us english speakers name purin. now let me ask you a impossible random mario question under your logic. Who is Koopa? |
| These are trivial things you're talking about tigermaskV. If you think dubs are done terribly not because they change story narrative, character dynamics, and the like, but because they change or remove small trivia that add little more than a funny pun, then you have ridiculously high standards. |
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tigermaskV said: Ousto said: They changed the names of Digimon because it's a KIDS SHOW! In order for their names to be easy to say/remember, they changed their name slightly. They did a good job with the dub names, they're either shortened or left the same. It's not that big of a deal, even if they completely change the names like in Pokemon. And since it's a kids show, the kids watching it don't give a shit if their original name is some pun. Do you think that American kids are going to understand that "Hikari" means light? No. Complain about name changing when they do it to the newest licensed series on DVD, not when they change the names for a children's show that aired 10 years ago. Some people are just ridiculous holding grudges for things like that. So your saying you Yank Kids are Dumb all Japanese Dubs of Us Cartoons keep the Names and always Have So Just to Point that Out im not Holding Grudges Its Disrespect to the Original Manga Ka Okay, I'm sorry but you're really starting to piss me off, its one thing to have your own opinion but its another thing to fanatically defend points that are misstated, wrong or just completely made up. You make some of the craziest claims I've seen in a while and are bashing anything non-japan. You claim you're in your early 20's yet have seen a year and a half worth of anime, anime thats crazy obscure and most people haven't watched, you claim to work for Bandai in the UK which would imply some sort of literacy in the English language which from looking at all your posts, is obviously lacking. I really get the feeling your trolling, and I can't be the only one who thinks this. |
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Jrittmayer said: tigermaskV said: Ousto said: They changed the names of Digimon because it's a KIDS SHOW! In order for their names to be easy to say/remember, they changed their name slightly. They did a good job with the dub names, they're either shortened or left the same. It's not that big of a deal, even if they completely change the names like in Pokemon. And since it's a kids show, the kids watching it don't give a shit if their original name is some pun. Do you think that American kids are going to understand that "Hikari" means light? No. Complain about name changing when they do it to the newest licensed series on DVD, not when they change the names for a children's show that aired 10 years ago. Some people are just ridiculous holding grudges for things like that. So your saying you Yank Kids are Dumb all Japanese Dubs of Us Cartoons keep the Names and always Have So Just to Point that Out im not Holding Grudges Its Disrespect to the Original Manga Ka Okay, I'm sorry but you're really starting to piss me off, its one thing to have your own opinion but its another thing to fanatically defend points that are misstated, wrong or just completely made up. You make some of the craziest claims I've seen in a while and are bashing anything non-japan. You claim you're in your early 20's yet have seen a year and a half worth of anime, anime thats crazy obscure and most people haven't watched, you claim to work for Bandai in the UK which would imply some sort of literacy in the English language which from looking at all your posts, is obviously lacking. I really get the feeling your trolling, and I can't be the only one who thinks this. You're not. I may be a pro sub guy, but this is ridiculous. |
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tigermaskV said: King Koopa is Daimao Daimao is his title not his name. btw I wasn't talking about king koopa I was talking about koopa troopa. ok so Iam done, to summarize your logic, if somebody asked you to pass them the pan you would pass them bread lol. If sombody said they watch anime you would assume that means american stuff too, LOL. anime=!アニメ koopa=!クッパ pan=! パン btw could you please answer the question I have asked about everytime. explain to me why somebody who "knows all about this" did not know that the popular way to spell pokemon is spelled ポケモン. not only that but also nobody calls it pocket monsters in english so why would you use the more obscure way that is only valid in japanese in english? |
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