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Jun 20, 2011 2:19 AM
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ayeyosteven said:
3D anime? When can everyone afford to play those at home.
3D is not gonna catch on. At home at least. The technology has been around for decades yet it always comes and goes like a fad.

Jun 20, 2011 8:27 AM

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Because just watching the fansubs doesn't support the shows you love or help more like it get made? Remember, this isn't charity, part of the motive for buying is that people who buy get to set the agenda for what kind of anime gets made. I'm serving my own interests too.

I think you're conflating two separate things - watching and buying. Sure, I can just watch fansubs and never buy a BD. That's easy, it's what most people do, and I really don't care if that's what people choose. Certainly I don't import *every* single show I watch (that'd cost like $30,000 a year, and while I buy a whole lot I can't afford quite *that* much on anime).

But if I want to own a show I really like, the fact that I can watch it for free isn't relevant, right? If the fact that you can get it for free dissuades you from actually buying, odds are you'd never pay R2 prices anyway. You can't ever convince yourself to spend $300+ per show with that mindset.
Exactly! it isn't a charity, it's a business. While you and others may not be the same, I wouldn't be buying DVD/BDs just to own, or just to support... I'd want to watch that newly bought DVD, not a fansubbed copy on the computer... It's not because I could watch it for free or anything like that, it's because you can't exactly watch something in a language you can't understand.

Maybe I am confusing buying with watching, but the reason someone would buy a DVD is to watch it.

Maikaze is a doujin group. Also, is there evidence that they used a fansub? Was the episode ever released before the official DVD with the subtitles? I don't remember so, so there would not have been any fansubs to use.
Yes, they are a doujin group but they still did it. Maybe a "demo" or something, but i don't think there was a release before the DVD. They used someone from a subgroup to help or something, so yeah... I did say similar =l
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Jun 20, 2011 1:38 PM

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there is hardly any official anime dvd in middle east...
Jun 21, 2011 12:06 AM

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And dont be a compelete otaku, 3D anime has a larg market out of japan, maybe they should start making some 3D animes
Jun 21, 2011 2:40 AM
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Dariush said:
And dont be a compelete otaku, 3D anime has a larg market out of japan, maybe they should start making some 3D animes
This has nothing to do with how "otaku" you are but rather with preference. I myself detest 3D movies and I know people who hate the transition animation has kept doing from hand-drawn to computer generated.

Jun 21, 2011 2:33 PM
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3D as in the crappy 3D TVs? How many people own a 3D TV with those lame ass $100 3D glasses? I don't think 3D is going to kill anime, especially if 3D TV has something of a low user base unless 3D TV evolves into what the 3DS manages to do without having to use 3D glasses.

As for fansubs, they've been around since the early 1990s. They have always and will continue to be around. Trying to rid the world of it is not going to happen. As long as there will be anime, there will be fansubs. If the industry is declaring war on fansubs, it'll be like America waiting to declare war on Japan for Pearl Harbor until 1961. Do I think it's killing the industry? If it's managed to survive this far, then hell no. Some manga-kas like the creator of Umizaru blame the industry and all that.

But hey, sometimes fansubs is what people can get. I mean, will Macross 7 or Legend of Galactic Heroes even be licensed? Hey, I think it's fair that we all get to watch anime we want to watch.

Regardless, outside of Japan, anime has always had something of a small, but yet a hardcore following. That's just the way it is. Even with fansubs, the fan base is still something that is small but yet hardcore. Do the Japanese honestly expect their anime to be a hit like The Dark Knight or something? If so, then their expectations are too high.

As for anime being expensive, did any of you ever have to go through paying $45 for a 2 episode dub VHS and a $65 sub VHS? Also, while still an elementary school student? I remember paying for the first season of Ranma 1/2 on VHS dubbed for $400 when I was 11 with allowance, Christmas, and birthday money I saved up, and when I was 21, I bought the entire series on DVD for half that price. And when Best Buy locations were doing their anime sales a couple of years ago, I bought $500 worth of DVDs for $250, and if they were VHS tapes, they'd probably be $2,000. Try living in those days (plus, you're an elementary student and CAN'T work) if you think anime today is expensive.
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