Crossbell said: it seems that your personal belief is that you don't want to kill anyone besides cada so i don't understand why you don't vote himKit said: well, i don't wanna tell you what to do with your vote but, if you only suspect cada then you should vote him Kit said: ?????yeah i would say don't vote cada unless he starts posting again, likely modkill for the rest of us it makes sense to let modkill handle it and also lynch another suspect |
| Fair. -shad- said: 2. If you do not make at least 3 posts that contribute to the game during a day phase, you will receive a warning during the night. If you do not meet this requirement again you will be replaced or modkilled by the end of the day phase. @-shad-: Will CADEAMOS be replaced or modkilled at the end of the Day phase? If he gets replaced then it's a better bet to lynch him, IMO. If he gets modkilled then we can all lynch me and go for the "double lynch". |
| Also I find it funny that Crossbell wanted a massclaim when he entered but then accuses Togs of Role Fishing a little while later. Crossbell at 11-3 or 10-4 things seem unbalanced to most I don't know set up so could we be looking for a TRP since our win/con says "you win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town aligned player is alvie" |
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| 11:3 seems the most balanced to me. 4 mafia means that we were playing on hard mode. |
Crossbell said: Hard made with two lynches down wouldn't bother me and two no nk's. 10-3-1???11:3 seems the most balanced to me. 4 mafia means that we were playing on hard mode. |
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logic340 said: I find it unlikely that there are any neutrals in this game given that it's a basic game (shad's last basic was 16 players with a 12:4 ratio).Crossbell said: Hard made with two lynches down wouldn't bother me and two no nk's. 10-3-1???11:3 seems the most balanced to me. 4 mafia means that we were playing on hard mode. If there are then we investigate after we lynch all the mafia, but I really don't think that's the case. The fact that only town and mafia are in the win conditions in the OP should support my case. |
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Crossbell said: You played many games before. How would you say that's balanced? It is not even an equal ratio.11:3 seems the most balanced to me. 4 mafia means that we were playing on hard mode. |
| @Crossbell who is your character and do you remember who/if Togs claimed a character name? |
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logic340 said: @Crossbell who is your character and do you remember who/if Togs claimed a character name? v Crossbell said: I'm Ignis Scientia. I can't remember where Togs claimed but he claimed someone Highwind I believe. |
DenjaX said: 21% scum as opposed to 28%, plus the town loses in two mislynches if the vig misfires twice.Crossbell said: You played many games before. How would you say that's balanced? It is not even an equal ratio.11:3 seems the most balanced to me. 4 mafia means that we were playing on hard mode. |
Crossbell said: who said the vig has two shots?DenjaX said: 21% scum as opposed to 28%, plus the town loses in two mislynches if the vig misfires twice.You played many games before. How would you say that's balanced? It is not even an equal ratio. |
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| I have two theories: CADAEMOS hasn't been online since the 9th the didn't send a pm during the night phaae since they weren't online. FINAL SCUM? Crossbell tried to kill someone but couldn't because he was jailed. FINAL SCUM? @Crossbell you said your think you are being framed. If CADAEMOS is town and wasn't around to frame you then who was it? If CADAEMOS flips town where do you look next? |
logic340Feb 11, 2017 10:28 AM
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| I told you where I'm going to look next if the wenslot flips town. Look at Ruu interactions -> look at the Bunny wagon. logic340 said: I assumed that Kit had multiple shots.who said the vig has two shots? |
| 1. Jackrito - Iris Amicitia 2. Logic340 - Gladiolus Amicitia 3. Kit - Ardyn Izunia 4. Oyasumi_Rosie - Stella Nox Flueret 5. DarthInvader Ruu - Nyx Luci Caelum 6. Rinto-kun - Lunafreya Nox Flueret 7. Grapefruit21 - (Dark) Noctis Lucis Caelum 8. Crossbell Gruffin - Ignis Scientia 9. DenjaX - Pryna 10. Soren - Noctis Lucis Caelum 11. Togs - Aranea Highwind 12. Sollux16 - Prompto Argentum 13. CADAEMOS Wen294 - 14. Bunny - Umbra -CADAEMOS is the only one who hasn't claimed a character name from what I can see. Had Soren and Grapefruit both claimed their names around the same time I wonder how that would have went. -Rosie's character doesn't seem to be a character from the game and neither is Ruu's form what everyone has been saying. -The protagonist is mafia and a main antagonist is town? -Rinto is Stella's sister? -Jack is my little sister, I don't want to have to lynch my little sis? -Bunny and Denja are the pets? I love the effort the post have put into the setup just what I have seen from finding these character names. |
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Crossbell said: Where did you even get those numbers? The vig having 2 shots is most likely wine.21% scum as opposed to 28%, plus the town loses in two mislynches if the vig misfires twice. I could humour you and accept that vig has 2-shots: D1 = mislynch town N1 = vig shot town, mafia shot town D2 = mislynch town N2 = vig shot town, mafia shot town Total casualties: 6 town. 11 - 6 = 5 town vs. 3 scum Town loses after 2 mislynches, you say? What is the formula of your calculation here?  |
Crossbell said: So lets talk about Ruu's interactions. I spent a good deal of time writing something about them last night, why are we waiting? If wen flips town (on Bunny train) that leave Jackrito, Rinto-kun, and DenjaX in that order who do you want to talk about first?I told you where I'm going to look next if the wenslot flips town. Look at Ruu interactions -> look at the Bunny wagon. logic340 said: I assumed that Kit had multiple shots.who said the vig has two shots? So assuming that Kit only has one shot does the game seem more balanced? |
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D1 = mislynch town N1 = vig shot town, mafia shot town D2 = mislynch town N2 = vig shot town, mafia shot town Total casualties: 6 town. 10 - 6 = 4 town vs. 4 scum I think Cross was saying if it was 4 mafia. |
logic340Feb 11, 2017 10:57 AM
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DenjaX said: How I took what he said was that 21% (11-3) as better than 28% (10-4), at 10-4 two mislynches and two town vig shots ends the game.logic340 said: Nah. He said 11 town vs 3 mafia is balanced. xDDI think Cross was saying if it was 4 mafia. |
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logic340 said: Either situation offers no balance at all. Both 11 town vs 3 scum and 10 town vs 4 scum. The numbers just don't add up.How I took what he said was that 21% (11-3) as better than 28% (10-4), at 10-4 two mislynches and two town vig shots ends the game. But yeah, it is no use dwelling over this. We might as well think there are 4 mafias. Better safe than sorry. xDD |
DenjaX said: if we assume 4 mafia, don't we also have to assume they purposely did not submit a night kill?logic340 said: Either situation offers no balance at all. Both 11 town vs 3 scum and 10 town vs 4 scum. The numbers just don't add up.How I took what he said was that 21% (11-3) as better than 28% (10-4), at 10-4 two mislynches and two town vig shots ends the game. But yeah, it is no use dwelling over this. We might as well think there are 4 mafias. Better safe than sorry. xDD |
Kit said: yes this is exactly the scenario that I presented to Crossbell with CADAEMOS not being online. DenjaX said: if we assume 4 mafia, don't we also have to assume they purposely did not submit a night kill?Either situation offers no balance at all. Both 11 town vs 3 scum and 10 town vs 4 scum. The numbers just don't add up. But yeah, it is no use dwelling over this. We might as well think there are 4 mafias. Better safe than sorry. xDD CADAEMOS/Crossbell scum team? Independent and scum? Could they're be some kind of survivor role? If Crossbell is not scum who is? I worry about a hitnan I think it was Rinto who asked for a list of all the claimed names. Jack has been asking for names as well. |
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Kit said: DenjaX said: if we assume 4 mafia, don't we also have to assume they purposely did not submit a night kill?Either situation offers no balance at all. Both 11 town vs 3 scum and 10 town vs 4 scum. The numbers just don't add up. But yeah, it is no use dwelling over this. We might as well think there are 4 mafias. Better safe than sorry. xDD If they are 4 scum which I doubt they would not fail kills on purpose. |
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| I was right about the roleblocker at least! I might be right about wen too, but we'll see. |
Kit said: We already cleared numerous players and even a confirmed jailor so it is not optimal strategy to abstain from killing for the night.if we assume 4 mafia, don't we also have to assume they purposely did not submit a night kill? 4 scum scenario: 7 town vs 2 scum currently so they have to play deep wolf here at this point. |
| Hmm vote: Cross This is the correct play I'm pretty sure, since wenslot seems self resolving. I do actually think he's town, I know it's weird to vote my own strong townread but if the mafia want to no kill to frame him that's functionally equivalent to NKing him. Which I'm sure Cross would even be mad about. Also what I think probably happened is wenslot is the last scum and didn't kill out of inactivity. But since Cross gets to be resolved for free there's no reason not to I guess. |
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| Yeah, lynching me is the optimal play here just as long as wen's slot gets modkilled. Tinfoil world where wen slot is town? I'll investigate that later today. |
Jackrito said: Kit said: if we assume 4 mafia, don't we also have to assume they purposely did not submit a night kill? If they are 4 scum which I doubt they would not fail kills on purpose. DenjaX said: So then we have to conclude there's only 3, right? If there's 4 and cross is one, cross would have submitted the kill using the other's name even if the other was inactive (i've seen in scum chat where they can do this). If cross is town, even if the scum team is 2 lurkers i think one would be online to submit the kill.Kit said: We already cleared numerous players and even a confirmed jailor so it is not optimal strategy to abstain from killing for the night.if we assume 4 mafia, don't we also have to assume they purposely did not submit a night kill? 4 scum scenario: 7 town vs 2 scum currently so they have to play deep wolf here at this point. |
Kit said: Yeah 3 scum would most likely be the set-up here. There is a possibility that mafia went downhill after Soren lynch. It was despair inducing for the mafia for sure. They probably just become apathetic.So then we have to conclude there's only 3, right? If there's 4 and cross is one, cross would have submitted the kill using the other's name even if the other was inactive (i've seen in scum chat where they can do this). If cross is town, even if the scum team is 2 lurkers i think one would be online to submit the kill. But yeah, my TPR theory still lives on. |
Kit said: DenjaX said: So then we have to conclude there's only 3, right? If there's 4 and cross is one, cross would have submitted the kill using the other's name even if the other was inactive (i've seen in scum chat where they can do this). If cross is town, even if the scum team is 2 lurkers i think one would be online to submit the kill.We already cleared numerous players and even a confirmed jailor so it is not optimal strategy to abstain from killing for the night. 4 scum scenario: 7 town vs 2 scum currently so they have to play deep wolf here at this point. Yes pretty much if they are two they kill if one is jailed to clear the either. The only things I can see are cross is scum or wen is. Since anyone else would kill still |
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DenjaX said: inb4 CADA pulls a Togs and post last minute to prevent modkill to mess with us. They would need 3 |
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DenjaX said: Oh god what have I gotten named after myself o__oinb4 CADA pulls a Togs and post last minute to prevent modkill to mess with us. |
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DenjaX said: I can spam 15 posts in 30 seconds. Yes, I tried it in my scum club. xDD It would need to be revelant |
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DenjaX said: I can spam 15 posts in 30 seconds. Yes, I tried it in my scum club. xDD But there is like a 15-sec restriction per post o_0 |
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Jackrito said: It is called copy-paste. I can prepare posts in scum club and copy paste each of them for this thread.It would need to be revelant lol, I think I gave scum some ideas lel. |
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| Yeah today ended up quite a bit less spicy than previous days. Hopefully we just win here but I'll hold on tight and see. If I was more dedicated I would try to analyze for corner cases like Cross said he would but I'm really not feeling it : / |
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💀 Vote Count 4.1 💀 💀 Crossbell 💀 (3) // 🐩 Kit, DenjaX, Togs 🐩 CADAEMOS (1) // 🐩 Crossbell 🐩 🐩 Not Voting 🐩 Sollux16, Jackrito, Rinto-kun ,CADAEMOS, Logic340 🐩Mod Notes 🐩 This phase will last 24 hours. 🐩 Time until Night 4🐩 |
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