Soren said: mad that gee got caughtlogic340 said: I can understand how you're not sold on ruu being scum but I don't understand how that leads to a vote on me.Vote: Soren I'm not sold on your town/scum Ruu.meta as, I'm not feeling Werewolf have, NnT, or Disgaea Ruu here. Could you give some examples that support your suspicious? I'm not sold in the town roleblocker claim either but it just doesn't feel like a scum play. welcome back with 5 votes I hope you'll help us catch scum |
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Jackrito said: Soren is that brutal...lolCrossbell said: Also if Jack and Ruu are scumbuddies and Jack just decided to gank her scumbuddy like this, then lol. I've seen it happen before! But it just seems so random as to why Jack would do that unless Togs had a better role or something. Cross I'm brutal as scum but not that much lol, I will only get rid if I feel they are doing bad and I need the rep. I guess you did catch scum after all. Too bad the was off. Starting to think the whole bet was to get them town credit. Really need others to look into "the bet". logic340 said: After seeing Ruu and Soren both flip scum and re-reading this maybe wen is scum?Soren/wen Interactions Soren/wen Defending One Another: My Thoughts: #135 - This could be seen as a slight defense imo (trying to stay objective) #139 - Hinting at Soren being town? #252 - This could be seen as a slight defense imo and he did the same thing with Kit's vote on Gruffin #253 & #261 - Feels like he is content with leaving Soren alive because he will have to prove he is town or die (I shared this sentiment) #355 & #386 - this is pretty much the extent of them feeling each other out on D1 #391 - This question from Soren to wen never got an answer. Soren never follows up on it. Start of Day 2 #533 - Could be wen setting up future mislynches? #865 - Sets up #878-883 #878 - #883 - Feels like an effort to divert attention from himself but the lack of interaction before this leaves me confused. On the surface it looks t/s (knowing the flip) but with the limited interactions and wen's passive feeling on Soren D1, if this isn't all an act? Overall I will honestly say I don't know enough about interactions analysis to say either way. I could see a scum team and I could see wen just being town. wen seems to soft defend Soren multiple times D1 and Soren goes after wen on D2. I would definitely like others input on this. |
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| Ruu So many things went through my head as wrote this up. Gruffin/Crossbell and Wen stand out the most to me. Gruffin she is pretty non-committal on then votes Gruffin while scum reading Grapefruit? This confuses me because I don't know if she is trying to set up a mislynch with Gruffin or distancing from her teammate? Wen stands out because there were no meaningful interactions (at least from ruu to wen) until wen started suspecting her over the role claim Denja and her had a lot of interactions but if they are a team this back fired so I don't see it plus it would mean we've all been fooled badly by Denja while he sacrificed his team? Not a Denja plan Kit heavy town read and I don't see anything that would say teammate. Kit was suspecting her early and some chat back and forth. Jackrito I don't see a team here. She moves from town lean to I don't want to town read him seems like she new he was town. Togs and her have 1 interaction that I can see. #589 where Ruu asked Togs to clarify something but it never got a response from Togs. Togs scum reads her and votes her but they do not engage one another in any conversation they do not questions one another (outside of ruu to togs in #589). Just mention each other as scum reads current read list TOWN: logic, Kit, Sollux, Denja PROBABLY TOWN: Jackrito TOWN LEAN: Rinto NEUTRAL: Togs SCUM LEAN: Crossbell, CADAEMOS edit: added denja |
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logic340 said: I can agree with this analysis and reads list, though you're missing denja which i would put in townRuu So many things went through my head as wrote this up. Gruffin/Crossbell and Wen stand out the most to me. Gruffin she is pretty non-committal on then votes Gruffin while scum reading Grapefruit? This confuses me because I don't know if she is trying to set up a mislynch with Gruffin or distancing from her teammate? Wen stands out because there were no meaningful interactions (at least from ruu to wen) until wen started suspecting her over the role claim Denja and her had a lot of interactions but if they are a team this back fired so I don't see it plus it would mean we've all been fooled badly by Denja while he sacrificed his team? Not a Denja plan Kit heavy town read and I don't see anything that would say teammate. Kit was suspecting her early and some chat back and forth. Jackrito I don't see a team here. She moves from town lean to I don't want to town read him seems like she new he was town. Togs and her have 1 interaction that I can see. #589 where Ruu asked Togs to clarify something but it never got a response from Togs. Togs scum reads her and votes her but they do not engage one another in any conversation they do not questions one another (outside of ruu to togs in #589). Just mention each other as scum reads current read list TOWN: logic, Kit, Sollux PROBABLY TOWN: Jackrito TOWN LEAN: Rinto NEUTRAL: Togs SCUM LEAN: Crossbell, CADAEMOS |
Sollux16 said: you can change it if need be. I think you should see what the others think. I was thinking that maybe we should vig wen and jail cross? I want others to weigh in on it or do what you like but keep it to yourself. I meant to quote a different post but all well, at least you guys know who I'm jailing. Do you think Rinto is mafia? |
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logic340 said: I agree with thisSollux16 said: you can change it if need be. I think you should see what the others think. I was thinking that maybe we should vig wen and jail cross? I want others to weigh in on it or do what you like but keep it to yourself. I meant to quote a different post but all well, at least you guys know who I'm jailing. Do you think Rinto is mafia? Sollux16 said: Yes you can change your action, people do it all the time. As long as you PM mods more than 5 minutes before phase change you're good. I will not be shooting cross btwlogic340 said: you can change it if need be. I think you should see what the others think. I was thinking that maybe we should vig wen and jail cross? I want others to weigh in on it or do what you like but keep it to yourself. Do you think Rinto is mafia? Well at first I was planning on jailing Cross but I thought that Kit was going to aim at them, so I changed to Rinto who I have mixed feelings about (I have mixed feelings about a lot of people though...) but after going back and catching up, I feel like I should jail cross. So changing who I jail is an option then? |
| btw, if there is no kill tonight, i suggest analyzing the suspects as usual instead of immediately just lynching the one sol aimed at, because of what jack said about how scum might withhold a kill to cause confusion. If Sol lives we have essentially gained a free extra day and we don't want to waste it. |
Kit said: scum not killing tonight at this point is just kneecapping themselved. They have to kill. Im pretty sure the mafia are now discouraged to fight another day.btw, if there is no kill tonight, i suggest analyzing the suspects as usual instead of immediately just lynching the one sol aimed at, because of what jack said about how scum might withhold a kill to cause confusion. If Sol lives we have essentially gained a free extra day and we don't want to waste it. |
| Maybe this game have an ugly truth: Wen and Ruu were technically modkilled and forced to rep because they have committed a nasty offense like what happened in Camp Crystal Lake game where Crossbell and Gruffin the muffin did something bad. They got replaced that is why Soren became apathetic and became inactive in this game. Gruffin the muffin got replaced and further loses Soren's interest to play. If Gruffin was also scum, Soren pretty much committed sudoku. Would not be surprised since this is a shad game xDD Game always have bad things going on when he hosts lel. Perhaps also the reason why I dont see Claire doing her hosting duties. |
| Also, my vote on CADA was my bait to see if anyone wants to save Darth. I just cannot play for 12 hours from before the phase change so I cannot see through my plan till now. I still havent caught up with every post as I only checked the phase change and some post that I took notice during my break. I will check on people's actions. I doubt scum will kill me tonight as there are more confirmed town than me. Scum will probably push on my lynch eventually. I am just bummed that nobody picked a fight against me. I guess this is the curse of being the best town ever. xDD |
| Morning I am here. Reading the thread again I will share my thoughts as I go. We're doing great. Not sure if there are one or two scum left but lets get em!! |
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logic340 said: this is actually my concern.Morning I am here. Reading the thread again I will share my thoughts as I go. We're doing great. Not sure if there are one or two scum left but lets get em!! Now that there is a scum roleblocker, I am concerned about the set-up. 11 town vs. 3 mafia with the even distribution of roles is imbalanced due to mafia being outnumbered greatly. We even have a cop and a vig who doesnt die when shooting town. Set-up is pretty one-sided if that was the case. I want to think of 4 scum remaining due to us doing well but I believe there is TPR. |
| In my opinion if someone saved Ruu the I believe it happened after Vote Count 1.8 If the scum team was Soren/Ruu/wen then Grapefruit's death N1 makes little sense to me. By the end of D1 Grapefruit town read both Soren and wen while wanting to keep Ruu alive D1 but still had her as a top suspect for D2. Though I guess I could see it since Ruu and Soren were both suspected by Grapefruit D1. Gruffin and Soren town reading one another while never truly trying to figure one another out really bothers me. Gruffin stood by that read and I am not used to seeing her do something like that. Many of us told her about intent to pocket and she ignored it? Ruu/DarthInvader being jailed is probably what saved us from a Night Kill D2. Great play by Sollux16 @Rinto-kun doesn't feel like our scum games but at times you seem to be along for the ride. I'm leaning town as I remember you being a little more defensive as scum in FT and your claim is believable. If things start going bad I will probably look your way. Jackrito not going to say he is hard or easy to read. This is my third game with him and I was wrong in my first two. He feels town to me but there are a few things that stand out. In my reread he says that I saved Ruu D1 but when I look back at D1 my vote was on Bunny well before any saving of Ruu happened. I found myself asking was this a seed left behind? I've not been able to shake the "you protected Ruu" stigma and I dare say that Crossbell did more protecting of Ruu than I did D2 yet I am being accused of it there too (by Denja). Then there is the I want you dead comment. I am not scum I really hope my first game would go this for me personally though. Worried about a pocket here but he's felt town imo. When Crossbell came into the game we were focused on Ruu. He starts in with Policy Lynch Togs which took our attention away from Ruu to an extent. We also argued about Ruu being town for what felt like the better part of a page or two. Crossbell town read Ruu and Soren without reading the thread then votes for both, not saying he is scum but something to watch today. I also remember a post saying that he felt town couldn't win this game, here we are 2 successful lynches later. Not trying to tunnel here but this slot looks bad to me between Gruffin protecting Soren without trying to discern his alignment, Cross's distracting when he came into the tread, and town reading scum without fully catching up, I feel he is looking worse than lurker Togs or even passive Rinto. Let's see what D4 brings us... |
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| In a world where Crossbell is town I feel like it's got to be wen or Togs. They are the only two who didn't have their vote placed with confirmed scum at any point. wen voted up town D1 until Ruu on D2. Togs voted Ruu, Soren, then wen. Togs possible MVP? Ruu did give Togs slight protection when wen voted for him with no reason. CADAEMOS/Togs/Crossbell are my top suspect go start the day. |
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| V Sollux16 said: Ok, thanks for the help you guys. I changed to jailing Cross |
DenjaX said: stay with us Denja...don't go into the light run away.I did not expect Kit to reply so fast. I am literally going to die. Oh, Jesus, I will finally meet you. |
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| Oh god!!!-we're all here what does this mean?? |
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logic340 said: The likelihood that Cross is the last scum has increased. a bit of wine though regarding if the mafia chose not to kill or were just inactive and didn't submit a kill (looking at cada)Oh god!!!-we're all here what does this mean?? did cada even post at all last day phase? |
| @Sollux16 did you jail Crossbell like you said you would? |
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| The mafia intentionally no-killed in order to frame me as a mislynch. Which, sure, they can do. It just means we get more lynches, after all! |
Kit said: yes he did post but not much thoughlogic340 said: The likelihood that Cross is the last scum has increased. a bit of wine though regarding if the mafia chose not to kill or were just inactive and didn't submit a kill (looking at cada)Oh god!!!-we're all here what does this mean?? did cada even post at all last day phase? |
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| Easiest game of my life. Game is more peaceful with no deaths. Why can't we do that since day 1? We can all just hang out without any killings... logic340 said: I am still here. But every moment I keep visiting on the other side. I almost memorized the paradise layout.stay with us Denja...don't go into the light run away. |
| Nope I was wrong it doesn't look like they posted D3. |
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logic340 said: if he doesn't post this day phase i hope he gets modkilled :/ would just bring more confusion to the slot to get another repNope I was wrong it doesn't look like they posted D3. |
Kit said: Does that mean we're not voting there right now? CADA hasn't added much since checking in. wen had town reads but flips have clouded that a bit. Togs and Crossbell still have questions marks but Togs vote hit scum D1 and D2 and possibly D3?logic340 said: if he doesn't post this day phase i hope he gets modkilled :/ would just bring more confusion to the slot to get another repNope I was wrong it doesn't look like they posted D3. |
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DenjaX said: but I want to win with all of you ;-;So I stalked CADA's profile and he wasn't onine since Feb. 9. So have him modkilled today. We lynch Kit. I don't want more modkills to happen. logic340 said: yeah i would say don't vote cada unless he starts posting again, likely modkillKit said: Does that mean we're not voting there right now? CADA hasn't added much since checking in. wen had town reads but flips have clouded that a bit. Togs and Crossbell still have questions marks but Togs vote hit scum D1 and D2 and possibly D3?if he doesn't post this day phase i hope he gets modkilled :/ would just bring more confusion to the slot to get another rep |
| I still believe that there is scum on this wagon: 💀 Bunny💀 (6) // 🐩 Kit, Logic340, Jackrito, Rinto-kun, wen294, DenjaX🐩 I'm waiting for wen's slot to be modkilled though as that slot is my highest suspect. If he ends up flipping town then I'll re-evaluate. |
| vote: crossbell I trust togs more than cross, cada will prob be modkilled, and i don't really scum read rinto he's just neutral. i skimmed the thread during n2 for gruffin and crossbell posts and i came out feeling like that is the likely scum slot, esp for the heavy push on wen all of a sudden, and the early gruffin interactions as well. so this is where my suspicion falls |
Kit said: It wont happen if you are trying to kill me since Day 1. I know all your plans. I have become stronger since after all this time. I have built antibodies. xDDbut I want to win with all of you ;-; For all seriousness though, I feel like there is SK in this game who hasn't murdered anyone yet. I can't really digest 11 town vs 3 scum or even 10 town vs 4 scum. The numbers don't match, knowing that the distribution of roles are complete. There is at least 1 extra slot for something else. |
Crossbell said: we gotta lynch someone, we can't just no-lynch and wait for modkill. who is your next suspect?I still believe that there is scum on this wagon: 💀 Bunny💀 (6) // 🐩 Kit, Logic340, Jackrito, Rinto-kun, wen294, DenjaX🐩 I'm waiting for wen's slot to be modkilled though as that slot is my highest suspect. If he ends up flipping town then I'll re-evaluate. |
Kit said: The wen slot is my suspect. Crossbell said: we gotta lynch someone, we can't just no-lynch and wait for modkill. who is your next suspect?I still believe that there is scum on this wagon: 💀 Bunny💀 (6) // 🐩 Kit, Logic340, Jackrito, Rinto-kun, wen294, DenjaX🐩 I'm waiting for wen's slot to be modkilled though as that slot is my highest suspect. If he ends up flipping town then I'll re-evaluate. I want that slot to be resolved first before I look anywhere else, because there is a reasonable chance that once the wen slot is killed the game just ends. |
Crossbell said: well, i don't wanna tell you what to do with your vote but, if you only suspect cada then you should vote himKit said: The wen slot is my suspect. we gotta lynch someone, we can't just no-lynch and wait for modkill. who is your next suspect? I want that slot to be resolved first before I look anywhere else, because there is a reasonable chance that once the wen slot is killed the game just ends. |
Kit said: Crossbell said: well, i don't wanna tell you what to do with your vote but, if you only suspect cada then you should vote himThe wen slot is my suspect. I want that slot to be resolved first before I look anywhere else, because there is a reasonable chance that once the wen slot is killed the game just ends. Kit said: ?????yeah i would say don't vote cada unless he starts posting again, likely modkill |
Crossbell said: In the immortal words of Crossbell. "The scum aren't just going to hunt themselves."Kit said: The wen slot is my suspect. we gotta lynch someone, we can't just no-lynch and wait for modkill. who is your next suspect? I want that slot to be resolved first before I look anywhere else, because there is a reasonable chance that once the wen slot is killed the game just ends. |
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